Disaster Biden Urges More Than Doubling Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour - Ties it to covid relief

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Incoming President Joe Biden will seek to increase the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour as part of his $1.9 trillion pandemic relief bill, a move that could complicate its passage through the closely divided U.S. Senate.


The measure was included in an outline of the legislation released by the president-elect’s economic team on Thursday. Biden had previously said he would make increasing the minimum wage -- currently $7.25 an hour -- an early priority, but he hadn’t specified that it would form part of the stimulus bill.

“No one working 40 hours a week should live below the poverty line,” Biden said Thursday night in Wilmington, Delaware. “People tell me that’s going to be hard to pass. Florida just passed it -- as divided as that state is -- they just passed it. The rest of the country is ready to move as well.”

Higher minimum wages have long been subject to debate among economists, with many arguing they hinder job creation by making it costlier for employers to hire people. But that view has been questioned lately as several U.S. states and cities raised their hourly minimum wage to $15 without appearing to damage labor markets.

Public support for the idea may be strengthening. Florida voted for a $15-per-hour minimum wage in November, even as the state backed President Donald Trump for re-election.

Business groups have generally been opposed, and so have congressional Republicans. Mitch McConnell, the party’s leader in the Senate, blocked a minimum-wage increase that passed in the House in 2019 when the economy was doing well. Republicans say raising labor costs would hurt small companies already struggling with the pandemic. Virginia has delayed an increase scheduled this year on similar grounds.

The Biden administration, due to take office next week, would need at least 10 Republican votes in the Senate to get its relief bill through Congress -- unless it goes through the budget reconciliation process, where a bare majority is enough.

Some experts say that a minimum-wage increase could be eligible to pass via that route because it’s effectively a tax-raising measure. The 2019 version of the bill was scored by the non partisan Congressional Budget Office as having no budget effect, however. That version would likely be blocked by Senate rules which required items that use reconciliation be fiscal in nature.

Other parts of the bill, like funds for health and education, may have to be left out of a reconciliation measure, but Democrats will have the power to change the rules.

The federal minimum wage hasn’t been increased since 2009, and for several decades U.S. workers have seen their compensation rise at a much slower pace than their output per hour. Fast-food workers are planning a nationwide strike on Friday to demand a $15 minimum wage, and other industries like home-health care have seen similar actions in recent years.

Biden’s new plan also would scrap separate minimum-wage thresholds that apply to workers who receive tips, and to people with disabilities.

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Look, I am generally economically left, but even I know doing this after the struggle small businesses have been through this past year is retarded.
 
The Biden administration, due to take office next week, would need at least 10 Republican votes in the Senate to get its relief bill through Congress -- unless it goes through the budget reconciliation process, where a bare majority is enough.

Some experts say that a minimum-wage increase could be eligible to pass via that route because it’s effectively a tax-raising measure. The 2019 version of the bill was scored by the non partisan Congressional Budget Office as having no budget effect, however. That version would likely be blocked by Senate rules which required items that use reconciliation be

So...in other words it isn't happening?
 
Where I live, $30k a year is considered a pretty normal lower middle-class salary. and if they raise the minimum wage to $15, it’s not like companies will suddenly raise the salaries of people currently making like 16-18, at which point, why not just go become a McDonald’s employee?

Because it sucks.

So...in other words it isn't happening?

Prob not. And even if it passed, the joy would fade quickly as min wage workers renting suddenly notice rent jumped up by $500.
 
Biden’s new plan also would scrap separate minimum-wage thresholds that apply to workers who receive tips, and to people with disabilities.
Wait-- hold the phone.

Is this to say that Biden intends to remove the system that allows a restaurant employer to subsidize their wage costs with the tips that an individual employee receives, meaning that they'll be obligated to pay at least $15/hr regardless of tips earned?

I wager that Biden would come off better if he actually was senile. That's borderline evil, if he isn't stupid enough to think that waitresses actually risk being paid below standard minimum wage in net.
 
Look, I am generally economically left, but even I know doing this after the struggle small businesses have been through this past year is retarded.
You're right - it's not a great idea for propping up small businesses or increasing jobs. And doing it this way, as a one time thing, is going to be mostly useless given time.

The issue is wages have been artificially throttled. If minimum wage goes from ~$3.50/hr to $7.25/hr while the country's GDP/capita goes from $15K to $65K, someone's fingering the pie and not sharing with the plebs. A $15/hr minimum wage gets us mostly where you'd expect to be given this country's economy. The problem is they'll ignore it for decades again. If they could tie minimum wage with GDP/capita, it would ensure non of this bullshit happens again.

The problem I'm glossing over is this should really be handled by the states, but they are bigger thieves and slave traders than the federal govt - to the point some of them would set their state minimum wage in whip marks over dollars if federal law allowed it.
 
At this point I'm assuming they are trying to destroy the economy on purpose for some reason. Covid has already shuttered about a third of small businesses permanently and this would likely destroy the rest.
Corporate chains pay lobbyists and make substantial donations to political campaigns, while small businesses do not. Also small businesses encourage class mobility and uppity middle class businessmen, while an entrenched corporate model keeps the proles in line at the behest of the oligarchy/venture capitalists.
Enjoy the "new" 19th century economy. Beg for your government-mandated scraps or face destitution.
 
Wait-- hold the phone.

Is this to say that Biden intends to remove the system that allows a restaurant employer to subsidize their wage costs with the tips that an individual employee receives, meaning that they'll be obligated to pay at least $15/hr regardless of tips earned?

I wager that Biden would come off better if he actually was senile. That's borderline evil, if he isn't stupid enough to think that waitresses actually risk being paid below standard minimum wage in net.
While now is a terrible time to do it, I’d welcome the destruction of tipping culture.
 
Alternate title:

BIDEN TO SMALL BUSINESS: DROP DEAD - REPUBLICANS STILL STUCK AT "MUH PRODUCT PRICE INCREASES"
After all the COVID bullshit it is clear that they are specifically targeting small businesses. It seems in their vision that if it can be done by a huge quasi/pseudo-governmental corporation then that is what needs to happen. A tightly-controlled populace of slaves, to be milked unrelentingly forever.
 
Consequence the 1st: All wagey-slaves currently making less than $15/hour will become permanently unemployed.

Consequence the 2nd: Any business smaller than Walmart/Amazon will shut down or leave the country permanently.

Consequence the 3rd: Massive price increases by the mega corporations who now have absolute unbreakable monopolies.

Consequence the 4th: Detroit, except it's the entire country.

How to fix it: Wagey-slaves to go into business for themselves and become contractors instead of employees (assuming this isn't made illegal too lol California) and lose their health insurance and probably end up taking a pay cut and also losing any wagey-slave tax breaks...making...people much poorer...shiieeet

DO IT
 
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