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[Owlflaps]

My vote goes for "Hi Holden!" because he usually ignores the "How's your mom" question. On the other hand, he keeps leaving and coming back sooooo......

He's never gonna leave. His unwarranted self importance binds him here, forever doomed to argue with Kiwis to prove that's he's right, and that we're the ones who are insane.

It's an endless cycle that provides lulz. I swear, the amount of energy he's wasted spewing his hilarious bullshit could have powered a third world country and then make it go nuclear.

 

[CatParty]

Neither have I claimed so. I am saying her report, true or not, destroyed his life in this crazy 2015 America.

lol what a loser

 

[birdman]

I don't know if you guys know about these already, here is link to the thread on Croatian forum Marjan made when he was only 18 (2006), before becoming a brave CoAlpha LoveShy warrior. His nickname translates to Sad Boy XXL.

http://www.forum.hr/showthread.php?t=166687

If you are interested, I can translate some of it

 

[Scratch This Nut]

I don't know if you guys know about these already, here is link to the thread on Croatian forum Marjan made when he was only 18 (2006), before becoming a brave CoAlpha LoveShy warrior. His nickname translates to Sad Boy XXL.

http://www.forum.hr/showthread.php?t=166687

If you are interested, I can translate some of it

Go ahead. Google translate sucks but the gist of it is that he was crying about being a virgin with rage. Some things never change.

 

[HickoryDickory]

@birdman, are there any pics that he shared at the time? (I archived the thread you posted. Thanks!)

 

[drtoboggan]

@Holden, is date rape seduction or rape?

 

[birdman]

@birdman Are there any pics that he shared at the time? (I archived the thread you posted. Thanks!)

I remember people asked him to post pictures, and I think he did, but the link is broken. I'll try to find that post.

 

[supdup]

Go ahead. Google translate sucks but the gist of it is that he was crying about being a virgin with rage. Some things never change.

I found a couple of things of note.

"After her on msn admitted that I wanted to at least a hug, she said that it might be better if I did not because I do not know how to react"

He says he wanted to at least hug her, she says she doesn't want to because he's too clingy (my take on the translation). This was after the first time they physically met. But he totally misses that she was basically saying I don't like you that way and he goes further and I believe wears her down with messages.

"It hit me, but more as another failure but as the pain of njom.Napisao I have three huge messages about how to be careful what he says to people, because they can hurt you, as I hope will one find a guy who will take the initiative .... Basically, in a way, I forgive her ... Or so I thought."

The genesis of the rape fetishist. She wanted someone who will take the initiative, but he's way too shy. He will eventually translate "taking the initiative" = rape.

 

[birdman]

http://www.forum.hr/showpost.php?p=6255768&postcount=191

Here is a post where he posts his picture. The link doesn't lead me anywhere.
People told him he's not ugly, some even tell him that he looks like a younger Niko Kranjcar.

And here is part 1 of the translation of his first heartbreak, as told by young Marjan

I know on this forum I'm often called a troll who is constantly shitposting same things over and over again, but I really have the need to open this thread, I'm going crazy, I need to share it with someone.

Those who have read my posts know that I'm 18 years old and that I have never had a girlfriend. My entire childhood was one big negative emotion, not fitting in, depression… But that's not important. Important thing is what happened to me and which is why today I feel the same as when I was in depression three years ago.

It started in April this year. One girl that occasionally writes on this forum contacted me through private message and asked me my ICQ number. She was from my school, younger than me almost 3 years. I accepted to exchange messages with her and so it began. She was nice and bright, you know, an ordinary teenager who was interested in music and friends.

We exchanged messages almost every day, but I never thought that there could be anything more, not only because I've never had a girlfriend but because at the time I fantasized about some other unattainable girl. I even told her my problem with girls without any, even subconcious, desire that she might change anything. After some time she described herself and I didn't find her physically attractive, I even thought she was ugly.

A month or two have passed…it was so sweet, easy. If she was online we would chat, if she wasn't, we wouldn't i and there was no crisis if she wasn't online, just pure friendship which perfectly suited me because in the past I used to develop inappropriate emotional attachment through chatting and I would always be disappointed in the end. Nothing, I have not felt anything for her other than friendship.

 

[HickoryDickory]

@supdup, I noticed that too. At least in this text he has no reason to really lie about anything and shows he understands what she was saying. It reads like every teenage boy whose had a set-back in love.

-- Edit --

Spoiler: Photo of Niko for reference.

 

[birdman]

@supdup, I noticed that too. At least in this text he has no reason to really lie about anything and shows he understands what she was saying. It reads like every teenage boy whose had a set-back in love.

That's what everyone in that thread thought too. Other posters told him that it's gonna be alright, he's still young, people have bad relationships. You know, typical advice for a heartbroken (emo sounding) teenager. But he kind of ignores it and keeps self-pitying himself all the time, other posters become convinced he is a troll.

Part 2 of Young Marjan's Heartbreak

End of June was already here and we began to arranging a meeting, purely friendly, without any expectations.
And then, in midst of our arrangement, she said that she liked me for a long time. That I was really different and intelligent but she was afraid that I would tell her to fuck off and that she was shaking while writing this. I could not believe it, I was so thrilled and I thought: „Well the girl is not bad, this is my first chance to experience something with a girl, it doesn't have to last long, it's not like I'm in love with her but I'll experience something…“

I was so happy that summer evening…I want to cry when I think about it.
She and I were totally inexperienced, she was only 15 and I already stepped into adulthood.

But, that day was damned.
That summer evening a catastrophe began, but a lot of things needed to happen to get to the point at which I am today.

Our meeting happened soon, before it I was full of hopes and expectations…It was 9th July, on the day of world championship finals in soccer. That day we met and I tasted reality. Yes, the conversation was nice, she proved to be a great girl but none of us tried to kiss each other.
„Oh well“, I thought, this is just the first date, it will happen eventually, now we are more like friends, there will be more dates. But it was hard to arrange something with her. She always had her girl friends and guitar lessons as priority. Many times she has refused to meet because of her guitar rehearsals etc. Our next meeting was two weeks later. This time we bought beer and sat on bench in park…again nothing. I was in fear, I couldn't break the ice…I wanted to hug her at least but I couldn't. I even put my hand on her shoulders but immediately removed it. In the end, we said goodbye and we hugged…After this meeting, I felt bad for the first time, I didn't do anything again.

Part 3

Later, on ICQ, I admitted that I wanted to hug her at least. She said that it's perhaps better that I didn't because she wouldn't know how to react.

After this she had to go with her family to the sea (vacation on the coast). I tried to arrange another meeting before that, but I failed.
After she left to the sea, she simply stopped going online for more than three weeks. Then she sent a message that she's sorry, that's she's fucked up, that she likes someone else and that she understands that she is an idiot and hopes I'm okay..

It hit me, but I didn't feel pain because I felt something for her, I felt pain because this was another failure. I wrote her three huge messages about how she needs to be careful what she says to people, because she can hurt them, how I hope she will find a boyfriend one day that will take the initiative…Basically, I gave up..or at least I thought so.

After our communication ended, I started slowly forgetting her…I wanted to devote to studying and exercising, jogging etc…She has just become a past episode.

And then, after two weeks, she sent a message again. She said that she misses me, that she wants to chat again. I didn't know what to think….I didn't feel anything towards her. First I ignored it but then I accepted, I thought, purely friendly as before.

It started again. This time it was beautiful, so much better than before. I lived in her messages, looked at her in school. When on some forum I registered with a nickname IwillNeverHaveAGirlfriend, she was totally pissed and I knew that it was no longer just a friendship…Then I realized I really really began to like her and I completely forgot the summer…We couldn't wait to see each other…And I knew it wouldn't be like the summer..not this time.

Then, out of fear, I ruined everything. I said I was afraid, that I do not deserve to have a girlfriend, that there will be nothing between us…She did not understand why.
But after few days I sincerely apologized and said I was sorry and that I want us to be together.

 

[4Macie]

I don't know if you guys know about these already, here is link to the thread on Croatian forum Marjan made when he was only 18 (2006), before becoming a brave CoAlpha LoveShy warrior. His nickname translates to Sad Boy XXL.

http://www.forum.hr/showthread.php?t=166687

If you are interested, I can translate some of it

All of it. Translate all of it.

 

[birdman]

50 Shades of Marjan part 4

I think then I definitely fell in love. Finally day of our date arrived, exactly on this day, last Saturday…We went for a beer, yet I could not touch her…but this time I was desperate. Occasionally I would hug her, then I would remove my hand…She didn't complain. We walked around the city, going wherever she wanted, I was so hypnotized, scared and happy…

Finally we went to another park and there I met her friends….I acted like a wuss, timid and fearful..After some time we found eachother alone in the park again…She said she has to go in about 10 minutes. I was already going crazy. We sat on a bench and I was burning with desire to finally do something. I still could not… I started to cuddle, to touch her a little…then we kissed. I didn't know how to react and I looked ridiculous. It was mine and hers first time. We sat some more, hugged a little and she had to go.

I was completely, totally in love…But she didn't call me tomorrow. Not even day after. Or day after that. Only on Wednesday she sent a message that she didn't have any money on her cellphone and that she can't go on the internet. …and that she currently isn't capable of relationship with someone and that it has nothing to do with me. She hopes we will remain friends.

Friends?! She, who wanted to be more than friends twice and made me fall in love with her now wants friendship…
We could have stayed friends till today but she didn't want that…Even now she doesn't know what she wants.
Unlike summer, when I got over it, now I'm completely broken….Why did this have to happen to me and why did I do it, where did it all go wrong?! Did she expect me to grab her and kiss her, that she doesn't take the initiative or maybe she doesn't like me in person??
Why did she contact me again and did the same again?! Now I feel like total shit…Because I am still in love with her. I hate her so much and I miss her so much. I fucked up all my plans because of her, threw me months back. I haven't felt like this in years. I feel pure desperation and sadness.

All of it. Translate all of it.

No way dude, but I will translate Marjan's first kiss experience

(it's not the one he describes in his opening post, that playa)

FINAL PART

I never believed I was able to have a girlfirend, I never tried, I was always shy and hypersensitive. And then she appears and gives a glimmer of hope just to get me thrown into even deeper hole. If only we broke up after a week or two, but no, she did not give an opportunity for anything to happen between us.

Serves me right when I believe lies. Never ever I would have thought that it would cause such a huge pain. All because of some kid who was born in 1991.
It hurts me to thing that I have experienced so much disappointment and collapse, and that in practice nothing happened…Three times we just went out and I feel like somebody had ripped my heart.

What do I do? How do I get through this? Around me people argue, laugh and live and for me it's pure desperation. I feel like I have a knife stuck in my heart. I know I should not contact her again, I put her on ignore on ICQ but how do I endure this kind of pain?
Now I'm a senior and I can't wait to graduate high school and never see her again. She should be ashamed.

What are the chances that I ever get kissed by a girl. I don't hook up but this is not a subject of this topic.

I am 18 years old and I feel old empty and exhausted.

Where was I wrong? Was I supposed to be more aggressive. Is she just a girl who does not know if she likes me, Pearl Jam frontman or somebody else?
Now there is no turning back…we will never ever talk again.

 

[HickoryDickory]

@birdman, you are going to deplete my count.

@4Macie, the google translate works pretty well, and there's only a few words it doesn't recognize. Just clearing up those blurps wouldn't be an issue...

 

[4Macie]

The fuck @Holden .

You are emo as fuck; no wonder she didn't know if she liked you.

She was 15, you were 18; you were awkward as shit. 15 year old girls know not what they want; they change their mind every hour or two.

 

[birdman]

-His first kiss was with some German girl.
-She was some cousin of his friend, couldn't speak Croatian
-He, his friends and that German girl went out drinking
-He was with cca 10 people, was quiet and shy all the time and didn't talk with anyone
-She started talking to him (in English), ordering him drinks
-He became more and more drunk, became more relaxed and talked to her like "they have known each other forever"
-Marjan didn't want to drink anymore, but she told him if he drinks the whole bottle she is going to kiss him
-He did and she gave him a peck on the lips for a second
-Everybody screamed in shock (Marjan's own words)
-He wanted more but he didn't have courage to do so
-He went to the toilet and there he was hugging his male friend
-But when he came back, she was gone
-She was outside the bar, making out with another guy
-He became furious
-Later, when going back from that bar, she kissed and hugged that other guy nonstop
-Marjan felt angry and desperate and started talking about Russians who destroyed Berlin
-He never saw her again.

Original post
http://www.forum.hr/showpost.php?p=6257329&postcount=207

 

[chimpburgers]

-His first kiss was with some German girl.
-She was some cousin of his friend, couldn't speak Croatian
-He, his friends and that German girl went out drinking
-He was with cca 10 people, was quiet and shy all the time and didn't talk with anyone
-She started talking to him (in English), ordering him drinks
-He became more and more drunk, became more relaxed and talked to her like "they have known each other forever"
-Marjan didn't want to drink anymore, but she told him if he drinks the whole bottle she is going to kiss him
-He did and she gave him a peck on the lips for a second
-Everybody screamed in shock (Marjan's own words)
-He wanted more but he didn't have courage to do so
-He went to the toilet and there he was hugging his male friend
-But when he came back, she was gone
-She was outside the bar, making out with another guy
-He became furious
-Later, when going back from that bar, she kissed and hugged that other guy nonstop
-Marjan felt angry and desperate and started talking about Russians who destroyed Berlin
-He never saw her again.

Original post
http://www.forum.hr/showpost.php?p=6257329&postcount=207

As Holden would say, he is insane, as any girl who had an encounter with him would believe.

 

[4Macie]

-His first kiss was with some German girl.
-She was some cousin of his friend, couldn't speak Croatian
-He, his friends and that German girl went out drinking
-He was with cca 10 people, was quiet and shy all the time and didn't talk with anyone
-She started talking to him (in English), ordering him drinks
-He became more and more drunk, became more relaxed and talked to her like "they have known each other forever"
-Marjan didn't want to drink anymore, but she told him if he drinks the whole bottle she is going to kiss him
-He did and she gave him a peck on the lips for a second
-Everybody screamed in shock (Marjan's own words)
-He wanted more but he didn't have courage to do so
-He went to the toilet and there he was hugging his male friend
-But when he came back, she was gone
-She was outside the bar, making out with another guy
-He became furious
-Later, when going back from that bar, she kissed and hugged that other guy nonstop
-Marjan felt angry and desperate and started talking about Russians who destroyed Berlin
-He never saw her again.

Original post
http://www.forum.hr/showpost.php?p=6257329&postcount=207

So basically, what we get from this; is that Holden is pissed that a girl didn't start dating him and being his wife after he WON a kiss in a bet.

Seems about right...considering what we know of crazy Holden

 

[birdman]

Marijan tried going homo

http://www.forum.hr/showthread.php?t=255536

I am 19 years old and many posters here are familiar with my reputation and my posts thatdeal with shyness towards women and unrealistic desire for intimacy.
Now, last week has been hell, I never felt worse .The reason is a girl who was in love with me, and I destroyed everything because of my inexperience and fear.
She was the first one I really loved, touched, and it was beautiful. We should have lost our virginity together, but it all came crashing down.

I know it will be difficult to find a person like her again, and my shyness repulses girls.

And so I thought.....I have a male friend with whom I hung out a lot when I was 16-17. I stopped hanging out with him because I was content with the company of my other friends and I didn't contact him for 2 years. Now I contacted him again and I'm interested..

Is it normal to try to achieve tenderness (affection, romantic relationship) with him? I don't mean sex for now, just kissing and cuddling? I am not very into it (with men) but after I tried these things I realized how much I miss them and in reality, it's really hard I will ever be able to accomplish them with some girl

 

[Johnny Bravo]

-His first kiss was with some German girl.
-She was some cousin of his friend, couldn't speak Croatian
-He, his friends and that German girl went out drinking
-He was with cca 10 people, was quiet and shy all the time and didn't talk with anyone
-She started talking to him (in English), ordering him drinks
-He became more and more drunk, became more relaxed and talked to her like "they have known each other forever"
-Marjan didn't want to drink anymore, but she told him if he drinks the whole bottle she is going to kiss him
-He did and she gave him a peck on the lips for a second
-Everybody screamed in shock (Marjan's own words)
-He wanted more but he didn't have courage to do so
-He went to the toilet and there he was hugging his male friend
-But when he came back, she was gone
-She was outside the bar, making out with another guy
-He became furious
-Later, when going back from that bar, she kissed and hugged that other guy nonstop
-Marjan felt angry and desperate and started talking about Russians who destroyed Berlin
-He never saw her again.

Original post
http://www.forum.hr/showpost.php?p=6257329&postcount=207