Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[NyQuilninja]

I agree that they don't cite their sources transparently enough, if they cite them at all. It is being reported elsewhere, so it looks to be true:

Biden to deploy FEMA, National Guard to set up Covid vaccine clinics across the U.S.

The Biden administration will also "quickly jumpstart" efforts to make the vaccines available at local pharmacies across the U.S.

www.cnbc.com

Biden to deploy FEMA, National Guard to set up Covid vaccine clinics across the U.S.​

It makes sense though the National Guard is used for these kind of logistical conundrums and fema would be used because it is a federal emergency.

 

[Inventor of the Telephone]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13734320/brits-covid-mask-jonathan-van-tam/

BRITS could be wearing face masks forever as Covid-19 will "always be with us", England's deputy chief medical officer told The Sun today.

Professor Jonathan Van-Tam said the pandemic has changed how Brits approach hygiene and that some habits that we have adopted still stay with us.

Jonathan Van-tam

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

It makes sense though the National Guard is used for these kind of logistical conundrums and fema would be used because it is a federal emergency.

The biggest issue is that FEMA has a reputation for not delivering when it matters most (such as during Hurricane Katrina). People may have that in mind if they hear FEMA is to be involved with getting more people vaccinated and be more skeptical of the process than they already are.

Similarly, there will likely be parts of the country skeptical of the National Guard, especially those where guard members helped enforce law and order in response to rioting. Too many people, unfortunately, equate the National Guard with heavy-handed law enforcement. President-elect Biden will have a significant uphill battle getting citizens to put that perception aside in the name of being vaccinated. I'm not optimistic he can do that (and perhaps he might not even try).

As much as I'd like to see the logistics work in terms of having the National Guard and FEMA helping out, the lack of cooperation and coordination to date between Federal, State, and Local government bodies in dealing with COVID doesn't leave many people feeling very confident that it will work especially given FEMA's mixed track record with past federal emergencies.

 

[NyQuilninja]

The biggest issue is that FEMA has a reputation for not delivering when it matters most (such as during Hurricane Katrina). People may have that in mind if they hear FEMA is to be involved with getting more people vaccinated and be more skeptical of the process than they already are.

Similarly, there will likely be parts of the country skeptical of the national guard, especially if they were called to help enforce law and order during the ongoing rioting. Too many people, unfortunately, equate the national Guard with heavy-handed law enforcement. President-elect Biden will have a significant uphill battle getting citizens to put that perception aside in the name of being vaccinated. I'm not optimistic he can do that (and perhaps he might not even try).

As much as I'd like to see the logistics work in terms of having the National Guard and FEMA helping out, the lack of cooperation and coordination to date between Federal, State, and Local government bodies in dealing with COVID doesn't leave many people feeling very confident that it will work especially given FEMA's mixed track record with past federal emergencies.

Funny enough
I helped with Katrina in Galveston . I can tell you storys for days long story short though FEMA is about as useless as a turtle on a Fence post

 

[HarblMcDavid]

Fucking FEMA camps, can 2020/2021 stop making me deeply embarrassed I didn't believe the conspiracy nuts 15 years ago please?

 

[Bosmadden]

Right on cue Dem politicians are scrambling to end the lockdowns.

In related news the NIH has announced that Ivermectin is all of a sudden therapeutic for Covid

Home - FLCCC | Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance

The 'I-MASK+ Prophylaxis and Early Outpatient Treatment Protocol for COVID-19' and the 'MATH+ Hospital Treatment Protocol for COVID-19' are physiologic-based combination treatment regimen created by the FLCCC Alliance, a group of leaders in critical care medicine. All component medicines in our...

covid19criticalcare.com

How many people have had to die because they wanted rid of the orange man?

Fucking psychopaths.

 

[Vault Boy]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13734320/brits-covid-mask-jonathan-van-tam/

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Jonathan Van-tam

"Experts" like him deserve to have their tires slashed at the very least.

 

[A Welsh Cake]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13734320/brits-covid-mask-jonathan-van-tam/

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[Fliddaroonie]

In the UK a lot of Muslims are super wary of the vaccine. My hate of islam aside, I think they are right to be and I can at least respect how vocal they're being of it.

However, it's becoming super obvious there is a real disparity here. They're being handled with kid gloves over it all, but if you arent muslim, then boy howdy and fuck you very much, you grandma killer.

I think on this one,the Muslim community's reaction and reluctance is actually going to be a big part of the resistance. And on that, I am glad. Plus a lot of the muslims I know are lawyers and doctors who are very much leading the opposition to it. The enemy of my enemy is my friend and all of that.

 

[Slimy Time]

Right on cue Dem politicians are scrambling to end the lockdowns.

In related news the NIH has announced that Ivermectin is all of a sudden therapeutic for Covid

Home - FLCCC | Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance

The 'I-MASK+ Prophylaxis and Early Outpatient Treatment Protocol for COVID-19' and the 'MATH+ Hospital Treatment Protocol for COVID-19' are physiologic-based combination treatment regimen created by the FLCCC Alliance, a group of leaders in critical care medicine. All component medicines in our...

covid19criticalcare.com

How many people have had to die because they wanted rid of the orange man?

Fucking psychopaths.

I remember watching some doctor 2 months or so ago plead with politicians to look at his research and the research of hundreds of scientists about the benefits of Ivermectin in combating Corona and to stop looking for new vaccines. Cited it being used in South American countries to great effect. No surprise, that was ignored until its now convenient.

 

[Overly Serious]

In the UK a lot of Muslims are super wary of the vaccine. My hate of islam aside, I think they are right to be and I can at least respect how vocal they're being of it.

However, it's becoming super obvious there is a real disparity here. They're being handled with kid gloves over it all, but if you arent muslim, then boy howdy and fuck you very much, you grandma killer.

I think on this one,the Muslim community's reaction and reluctance is actually going to be a big part of the resistance. And on that, I am glad. Plus a lot of the muslims I know are lawyers and doctors who are very much leading the opposition to it. The enemy of my enemy is my friend and all of that.

I don't hate muslims, I hate Islam. There are plenty of decent muslim people and I've been friends with some. If they provide some form of organised opposition to coerced vaccination, that is at least something.

Separately, I read a study the other day that talked about how non-surgical / non-N95 masks, i.e. the ones nearly everybody is wearing, could actually make things worse because they nebulise the larger droplets into smaller ones. Smaller ones of course linger in the air longer. I wasn't fully convinced by the mask nebulization part but the smaller droplets part is valid. What was more convincing from the same source was how infections from contact are much milder than infections from inhalation. They did a study on hamsters (RIP little buddies) which was pretty solid. So masks maybe good for hindering spread but endless hand sanitization might be bad - stops you getting a mild exposure until one day you get hit by an exposure that goes straight into your lungs and is worse.

 

[The Skeptical Tomato X5]

In the UK a lot of Muslims are super wary of the vaccine. My hate of islam aside, I think they are right to be and I can at least respect how vocal they're being of it.

However, it's becoming super obvious there is a real disparity here. They're being handled with kid gloves over it all, but if you arent muslim, then boy howdy and fuck you very much, you grandma killer.

I think on this one,the Muslim community's reaction and reluctance is actually going to be a big part of the resistance. And on that, I am glad. Plus a lot of the muslims I know are lawyers and doctors who are very much leading the opposition to it. The enemy of my enemy is my friend and all of that.

brb reciting the Shahada

 

[Jeffrey Epstein]

Biden, "Scientists have explained to me that Covid-19 has run its course and mutated to a mostly non lethal infection, therefore..."

The sooner, the better, because I cannot wait to be a mindless acolyte of consumer culture at Universal Mario World Japan, because, *ahem* UNCLE TED, I can't do anything about the fact that I am a cretinous sycophantic product of my own time period and I WILL get a Mario armband and hit those fucking blocks to obtain whatever intangible benefit that they possess!

 

[Bosmadden]

I don't hate muslims, I hate Islam. There are plenty of decent muslim people and I've been friends with some. If they provide some form of organised opposition to coerced vaccination, that is at least something.

Separately, I read a study the other day that talked about how non-surgical / non-N95 masks, i.e. the ones nearly everybody is wearing, could actually make things worse because they nebulise the larger droplets into smaller ones. Smaller ones of course linger in the air longer. I wasn't fully convinced by the mask nebulization part but the smaller droplets part is valid. What was more convincing from the same source was how infections from contact are much milder than infections from inhalation. They did a study on hamsters (RIP little buddies) which was pretty solid. So masks maybe good for hindering spread but endless hand sanitization might be bad - stops you getting a mild exposure until one day you get hit by an exposure that goes straight into your lungs and is worse.

Cloth masks have been known to be completely useless for months but they're still pushing them as a public display of compliance to state orders.

3-ply surgical masks are at least water resistant so likely give some protection against droplet inhalation. Another benefit from wearing them is that they're disposable, so no having a dirty piece of cloth over your face if you forget to wash the stupid thing.

I have no idea why people choose to wear cloth masks when surgical masks are cheap and widely available.

Contact infection is tricky as Covid is present in both sputum and fecal matter. A big reason why Covid rips through nursing homes is due to aerosol feces. It's exactly the same reason that gastro illnesses spread so quickly in these environments, folks literally breathing in other people's shit. A high prevalence of incontinent patients and nature does the rest. But otherwise constant hand sanitizing is not a good idea in the general community as Covid has a lipid bi-layer making simple soap and water a MUCH better option and as you say incidental ingestion of the virus means a much lower viral load on infection.

The sooner, the better, because I cannot wait to be a mindless acolyte of consumer culture at Universal Mario World Japan, because, *ahem* UNCLE TED, I can't do anything about the fact that I am a cretinous sycophantic product of my own time period and I WILL get a Mario armband and hit those fucking blocks to obtain whatever intangible benefit that they possess!

This is obviously the plan and we can see this with the sudden switcheroo regarding Ivermectin and the signals that Dem politicians in blue states will end the lockdowns.

The decision to rush through the mRNA vaccines with dubious efficacy data is part of this as well. A true vaccine against a Coronavirus is impossible, it simply can't work. At the very best they will provide short term immunity from infection and give some degree of protection from severe illness in the long run, they will not and cannot provide permanent immunity. However that's besides the point. President Dementia's rush to vaccinate 100 million people will allow them to sell a mission accomplished narrative and reassure their base that the dreaded coof has been licked. The Dems don't want to rule over an economic wasteland, which is what we'll be if this goes on for much longer. Utterly cynical and psychopathic but if your only concern is gaining power then how they've chosen to deal with the pandemic makes perfect sense.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Right on cue Dem politicians are scrambling to end the lockdowns.

In related news the NIH has announced that Ivermectin is all of a sudden therapeutic for Covid

Home - FLCCC | Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance

The 'I-MASK+ Prophylaxis and Early Outpatient Treatment Protocol for COVID-19' and the 'MATH+ Hospital Treatment Protocol for COVID-19' are physiologic-based combination treatment regimen created by the FLCCC Alliance, a group of leaders in critical care medicine. All component medicines in our...

covid19criticalcare.com

How many people have had to die because they wanted rid of the orange man?

Fucking psychopaths.

It's like on January 1st a bureaucrat entered every single dem office and said, "Our annual reports tell us we're fucked financially if we don't stop destroying the economy." Of course, a high school dropout could have told them that 8 months ago. But then orange man might have been right. Can't have that.

It's a little late to take the Mission Accomplished route. Too many people know the shit they've been saying recently was readily available and ready to be acted upon months ago. Even my parents, totally scientifically clueless, thought it was absurd they saw an article "suddenly" lauding the effects of Vitamin D on reducing COVID intensity. I told them that back in March. Sure, there are dem slaves that will believe anything that the guy in a suit in the talking box says to them, but there are a lot of people that are just totally beyond believing the government has any legitimacy anymore.

 

[teriyakiburns]

My parents had THE VAX yesterday. So far no apparent issues. They had wanted to get the Oxford Chad vaccine (seriously, it's called ChAdOx1), but they weren't given the choice. Kind of annoying.

UK rolling out the vaccine so well is going to be a bit of a relief for Boris and will no doubt be trumpeted at every opportunity. I expect we'll be kept in rolling shutdowns and shit until uk.gov has shat out a few more "detain people for no raisin" laws and then things will be returned to something superficially resembling normal.

 

[verissimus]

Build your own banks guys (assuming of course this is true) : https://www.theblaze.com/news/atilis-gym-says-nj-emptied-bank-account

 

[Fliddaroonie]

Meanwhile, in Norway, nearly two dozen oldiewonks have died because of vaccine side effects to the Norwegian health services are going to tinker with the dosage.

1. It was the Pfizer vaccine and 2. If that's what it does to older people with their clapped put immune systems then I'm not touching that shit with a hundred foot pole.

 

[Sage In All Fields]

Pfizer leak summary from what I've understood:
- mRNA integrity is indeed a concern
- Significant differences in mRNA integrity between clinical review batches and commercial batches
- The FDA and Health Canada don't see it as a big deal
- Definitive proof they're trying to cut corners
- 25 year old got a brain hemorrhage during a trial, causing them to halt the trail, although they don't think it had anything to do with the vaccine

 

[Bakarina]

Pfizer leak summary from what I've understood:
- mRNA integrity is indeed a concern
- Significant differences in mRNA integrity between clinical review batches and commercial batches
- The FDA and Health Canada don't see it as a big deal
- Definitive proof they're trying to cut corners
- 25 year old got a brain hemorrhage during a trial, causing them to halt the trail, although they don't think it had anything to do with the vaccine

Yea, fuck this shit. Absolutely no.