General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

Coco is Enma-chan - This is my fattest rrat. So fat, she has given up onusing her legs for forward movement and now rolls everywhere she goes. Enma-chan has glasses and hairstyle similar to K-son. She is confidant enough to give input on a character design for herself where I think most behind the scenes employees would default to, "Whatever you want to do, Ina, haha." Her L4D gameplay was similar to Coco's in that she barreled ahead, leaving the others to try to match her pace. Again, I don't think a faceless manager X would have the balls to do that and A-chan isn't that aggressive. The biggest recent rrat supplement has been that Coco has started doing an EN style schedule. With a single exception, she's the only JP talent doing one and she's releasing it on twitter like the ENs. Also, after Coco started doing a schedule, the other ENs coincidentally decided to start doing full 7 day schedules instead of whenevs through Sunday.
Very interesting, and still plausible regardless of what I say depending on how things could have played out.

But let's look at yesterday's timeline. We had Ina streaming Lobotomy Corporation at 6AM JST. Ina seemed to be talking to Enma on Discord, or at least made it sound like she was. She streamed this for about 3 hours. Both Coco and Ame had a stream scheduled for 8AM JST. Ame streamed Outer Wilds for a little less than 3 hours, and Coco "overslept" an hour for her Karaoke stream waking up around 9AM JST.

Now Ina's stream ending and Coco waking up seem to line up really well, but it does kind of make me wonder why she'd be keeping an eye on Ina when she's easily the safest one of the bunch. Especially to the point of delaying her own stream, unless she forgot (She did mention that she thought she'd never wake up late for a stream).
 
They've only gotten me with Hades so far.

I was interested in Touhou Spell Bubble for a minute there until I checked the price and saw that its getting jewed as hard as the average Nintendo first-party game. And all that $12.99 and $9.99 DLC to go along with it? Those fuckers are crazy.
I bought the full game sometime before after seeing Marine play it and then bought all the DLC. It's honestly worth it since all the music in the game is so good, but the one that is a must get is probably the Hololism pack since it's all Marine's songs she did with beatMARIO.
 
Anybody else have some pet rrats that they've raised fat on a steady diet of speculation?

Miko had a baby - This is my thinnest, most emaciated rrat born from a mistranslation and fed nothing but sawdust and dreams. I basically just think it would be funny, but it's managed to survive this long just based on her not being able to stream at night.

AO-chan is Mama'nis - This is a goofy rrat, but I think it's grown stronger as hints have revealed AO-chan to not be Ane'nis. AO-chan is a she who Ina can joke about drawing in a swimsuit and know she will never actually do so. She's not a Cover employee or the other ENs would have AO-chans. She's close enough to Ina to be familiar with Ane'nis's drinking antics as when Ina was talking about them, AO-chan commented, "Indeed."

Coco is Enma-chan - This is my fattest rrat. So fat, she has given up onusing her legs for forward movement and now rolls everywhere she goes. Enma-chan has glasses and hairstyle similar to K-son. She is confidant enough to give input on a character design for herself where I think most behind the scenes employees would default to, "Whatever you want to do, Ina, haha." Her L4D gameplay was similar to Coco's in that she barreled ahead, leaving the others to try to match her pace. Again, I don't think a faceless manager X would have the balls to do that and A-chan isn't that aggressive. The biggest recent rrat supplement has been that Coco has started doing an EN style schedule. With a single exception, she's the only JP talent doing one and she's releasing it on twitter like the ENs. Also, after Coco started doing a schedule, the other ENs coincidentally decided to start doing full 7 day schedules instead of whenevs through Sunday.
With the first rrat I've been aware of this from 4chan but even with this somewhat explanation to it seems odd.
Don't really have much to add on that second rrat.
The Third one though seems more interesting than the rest but then again it's just a rrat after all.

But only one rrat I've seen got me to think twice about it and that is that Kiara was a Gen 5 reject. I'll post the image that I found in November that further explain the rrat in somewhat detail. Though at first I was doubted this before as some anons try to also add that if true then Kiara played a role in Aloe to graduate to take a hit Hololive for not having her in Gen 5 rather than being in EN. But after seeing this image and then remembering the clip from Pekora saying the last Gen 5 to debut was a phoenix but instead is was Polka being a fennec fox had really got me in thinking twice about it.

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But in the end, it just another 4chan rrat so it could just be all schizo shit.
 
I bought the full game sometime before after seeing Marine play it and then bought all the DLC. It's honestly worth it since all the music in the game is so good, but the one that is a must get is probably the Hololism pack since it's all Marine's songs she did with beatMARIO.
It's just a matter of the price point (despite the current sale) along with the combined total of all the DLC that's a dealbreaker for me.

Maybe another time.
 
Anyone correct me if I’m wrong please, but in her latest stream I think she mentioned a friend that she called “sharehouse girl” (Default’s EN translation for the name). So I am not entirely sure if that’s referring to a girl she plans on living with or there is some backstory I missed on why Delu called her that. She talked about having her on stream but would have to ask her first.
Plans to live with, she's her future roommate with high chance.

Delta had a twitcast karaoke collab earlier today with Sharehouse Girl (who has decided to be called Aoi-chan). Was a really fun stream, they get along great. Aoi-chan's voice is not anyone from hololive so that theory can be put to rest, it's one of her best friends from before Delta even joined hololive.

They had not hung out for half a year though, approx 6 months ago they both became very busy with stuff (no details given in stream, but it's obvious that's when Delta started hard prepping for Aloe's debut). After it all went to hell, Delta was in no mental shape to socialize so it took until now for the two to reunite irl.
 
Kiara was a Gen 5 reject
Definitely not impossible, Kiara always stuck out to me like the most Japanese of all HoloEN. While this Nazca stuff looks to be too much of a longshot, the rest is enough to have a working theory. I think there is nothing more on this though, unless Keeki herself slips something out.

Going back to Coco = Enma theory, a true madman would cross-check Coco's stream dates and all of HoloEN for a pattern, but I'm not one of those I'm afraid.
 
Anybody else have some pet rrats that they've raised fat on a steady diet of speculation?
My only personal rrat is that keeki does/did some "cosplay with a happy ending" as a side job.
I have absolutely nothing to support this except for what its already known about her past life, I just keep it to remind me of my dislike for Kiara and try to keep it caged because even I know disliking a chuuba this much is autistic, but I cant avoid it.
 
then Kiara played a role in Aloe to graduate to take a hit Hololive for not having her in Gen 5 rather than being in EN
All that thing fall apart when you analyze everything step by step

1) The thing about Polka is not new because this is not the first time that Cover snatch talents from them that actually put numbers under their brand, Nobuhime was a given and i think she was vouched by Miko BUT she still had to do the casting like everyone else, more easy to blame the live2d artist for a shoddy v1 that "it was rushed"

2) HoloEN was rushed but not for the things explained there, it was rushed because they wanted to drown the aloe incident very quickly thats why they did two things, bring Civia to Youtube and make all EN debut literally a little before Aloe graduation, also the names and everything are decided after the approval in the casting, even if Kiara was Nazca there was absolutely no reason for her to be kicked and the dates between casting and debut doesnt match either

3) Pekora confusing Fennec with Phoenix would not be weird i mean her graps on english is atrocious already
 
The Nazca thing falls apart if you want to take Kiara's word as truth. She addressed two rumors quite a while back: one is that she was a gen5 reject or repurposed to join EN (she wasn't) and the other as her being the sender of this marshmallow. The latter one is a rrat that I had wholeheartedly believed in since it was indeed plausible and it apparently gained a bit of traction all over.


I would have to actually find the stream since it was one of her hours long Superchat readings but she pointed out that the two rumors were not actually true at all. Despite being a massive Pekora fangirl, she never submitted a question like that to her marshmallows nor did she ever apply to gen 5. She had stated she found out about hololive after the gen 5 auditions had wrapped up and applied for EN at the first opportunity, like 2 days in. The Pekora marshmallow question was before all of that as well.

What is the meaning/etymology of "rrat"? I'm not up on chan lingo and googling just brings up a lot of technical abbreviations.
This clip.


4chan decided to take that bit of bullshit to talk about any sort of out-there theory with the "rrat" being part of the word "narrative."
 
Plans to live with, she's her future roommate with high chance.

Delta had a twitcast karaoke collab earlier today with Sharehouse Girl (who has decided to be called Aoi-chan). Was a really fun stream, they get along great. Aoi-chan's voice is not anyone from hololive so that theory can be put to rest, it's one of her best friends from before Delta even joined hololive.

They had not hung out for half a year though, approx 6 months ago they both became very busy with stuff (no details given in stream, but it's obvious that's when Delta started hard prepping for Aloe's debut). After it all went to hell, Delta was in no mental shape to socialize so it took until now for the two to reunite irl.
You got the code for the VOD? It wasn’t on her schedule but I can still go to her twitcast page and get it from there. I figured she put the passcode on her private Twitter but my dumb ass hasn’t gotten around to adding her yet. As long as I know where I can get it.
 
Very interesting, and still plausible regardless of what I say depending on how things could have played out.

But let's look at yesterday's timeline. We had Ina streaming Lobotomy Corporation at 6AM JST. Ina seemed to be talking to Enma on Discord, or at least made it sound like she was. She streamed this for about 3 hours. Both Coco and Ame had a stream scheduled for 8AM JST. Ame streamed Outer Wilds for a little less than 3 hours, and Coco "overslept" an hour for her Karaoke stream waking up around 9AM JST.

Now Ina's stream ending and Coco waking up seem to line up really well, but it does kind of make me wonder why she'd be keeping an eye on Ina when she's easily the safest one of the bunch. Especially to the point of delaying her own stream, unless she forgot (She did mention that she thought she'd never wake up late for a stream).
Thanks to Kiara being intellectually challenged we know that A-chan and AO-chan are both on the Discord server, so she may have been talking with one of them if she didn't mention a name. We also know that A-chan and AO-chan are not Enma based on that. Actually, it could have been Mama'nis/AO-chan interested in the game since it's Korean. Otherwise, if it was definitely Enma chatting with Ina during the game it's possible she dozed off for a minute and forgot the alarm. Not sure which way her Discord being set to 'do not disturb' suggests:

But only one rrat I've seen got me to think twice about it and that is that Kiara was a Gen 5 reject. I'll post the image that I found in November that further explain the rrat in somewhat detail. Though at first I was doubted this before as some anons try to also add that if true then Kiara played a role in Aloe to graduate to take a hit Hololive for not having her in Gen 5 rather than being in EN. But after seeing this image and then remembering the clip from Pekora saying the last Gen 5 to debut was a phoenix but instead is was Polka being a fennec fox had really got me in thinking twice about it.
Phoenixu and Fennecsu sound similar enough for Polka and Kiara themselves to argue about it in their Minecraft collab, it's hard to say which Pekora was saying exactly. The idea that Kiara had a hand in graduating Aloe is embarrassing, but otherwise it's an interesting idea.
 
The idea that Kiara had a hand in graduating Aloe is embarrassing, but otherwise it's an interesting idea
As dumb as Kiara seems at times that specifically sounds too dumb to be true. That would have to be her risking her probably most high profile job for something really petty especially when she was gonna be in EN anyway.

Did we ever find out the names of those two unused designs that people thought were gonna be gamers gen 2? Maybe the name belonged to one of those and they scrapped the idea
 
So does anyone know what's going on with Amatsuka Uto? I didn't watch a lot of her streams, but from what I saw she was pretty fun to watch and made an effort to interact with her overseas viewers, but she's been pretty MIA for over a week.

Would be stupid if all that non-drama about metatags and that 15$ art commission made her quit.
 
So does anyone know what's going on with Amatsuka Uto? I didn't watch a lot of her streams, but from what I saw she was pretty fun to watch and made an effort to interact with her overseas viewers, but she's been pretty MIA for over a week.

Would be stupid if all that non-drama about metatags and that 15$ art commission made her quit.
So far, nothing as far as I’m concerned. I really hope all that stupid shit didn’t scare her off too. Especially since retards started spreading false info about her being with a company and slandering people or some stupid shit. I’ve never seen evidence of that whatsoever. She probably got harassing messages from said retards and is still lying low. I’m sure if something did end up happening it’d end up in taking that artist down with her for how dumb it was to put it out there especially since she paid the $15 already
 
So does anyone know what's going on with Amatsuka Uto? I didn't watch a lot of her streams, but from what I saw she was pretty fun to watch and made an effort to interact with her overseas viewers, but she's been pretty MIA for over a week.

Would be stupid if all that non-drama about metatags and that 15$ art commission made her quit.
Maybe taking a page out of Cover's playbook and being offline for 2 weeks to let it die out.
 
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