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Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon
Yes, kids won't be that good at understanding these heavy subject matters at first; that's the point of these classes. To use these classic stories with deep, but not too subtle, themes that act as a good introduction to understanding the ways stories are structured and put together, which has the more practical application of helping kids understand nuance in more mature topics and critical thinking.
And these stories are widely accessible for the most part, they're not like Lilly's stories where you have to match her personal beliefs for the story to be engaging. You don't have to fully understand the Great Depression or personally take care of a mentally disabled man to understand and engage with 'Of Mice an' Men'.
This is fantastic. Lily obviously read the first couple of lines, decided it validated her, and then did an empty repost when the person blatantly asked a question.
I'm guessing this ist he previous anon that was hoping to write their 'thesis' using Lily as a case study in parasocial relationships and 'harassments' and they're trying really hard to latch on to something she's talking about to sneak their question in. I mean buddy. At least pretend the thought was related.
(The more times I read this Ask the funnier it gets. 'Oh, you're so valid, Lily! ...anyway, how do you keep people from thinking of you like a friend?')
No, see her characters have been through plenty of hardship.
Like comic!Lily, who... um... took a breakup really badly. O-or was disowned by her family! ...who let her continue living with them until the age of emancipation. Or the hardship with Gardevoir mind-raping her as a child and forcing her into a passive-aggressive rela-- actually that's just treated as a joke. Um... look, it was a really rough breakup.
O-or what about G herself, who was apparently raised in an IV farm and was 'neglected' by Lily's mother? Even though... she was given to Lily to be a companion specifically for her and... geez I can't even make anything up for G. I guess Lily yelled at her after she found out about the mating bond.
Okay let's pivot away from the Pokemon comics. What about Lord Ryder, eh? Yeah, Ryder had a terrible past, being tortured by god for centuries before becoming literally the most powerful being in the universe! Not that... anybody actually comforts Ryder. Or that he's ever been impacted this history in any of the Val'kyr vignettes. Or that we even really saw what happened in order to sympathize.
And there's some tragedy in the backstory of most of her Val'kyr, but it's all stuff that as far as I know is only ever explored in the Wiki and not in any vignettes. And given all of the Val'kyr vignettes that I'm aware of are exclusively about what an amazing perfect society they have or how incredible Lord Ryder is it's not exactly stories about hurt-comfort, is it?
Oh! Anevay! Who was nearly sold off into a loveless marriage and had her previous fiancee treat her badly because she (the other fiancee, I mean, whose name is utterly forgettable) had been thoroughly traumatized and was so consumed by self-loathing she couldn't handle the emotional concept of somebody else loving her and actually now that I'm here she really needed Anevay's support and I guess Anevay (that is, Lily) decided nah we're just gonna go straight for Sylvanas.
I did see a conversation snippet where apparently Anevay was dying of some magical poisoning and her screaming that she can't fight anymore, which was so over the top it went from 'hardship' to 'perfect comedy'. And it alsos ounded like it would've happened far enough into the timeline that she was already boning Sylvanas?
Well, Sylvanas has definitely been through wait no not Lily's character.
...Aliana. Okay, definitely Aliana, whose mom was killed by those terrible Jedi for t he crime of being an incredibly powerful Sith Lord who could probably at any moment turn around and raze planets if she felt like it, and because Aliana herself is a Sith everybody is mean to her.
HARDSHIP.
I mean, even if you allowed that these characters had suffered 'hardship' -- and technically speaking, a lot of backstories might count -- we as an audience basically never see it. We're just told 'oh yeah terrible life' and get the most cursory of flashbacks or dialogue and that's the emotional investment we're supposed to have. Because we don't see the hardship that they're overcoming, it's doesn't ring true, and we come back to Lily's fundamental problem of laziness.
She wants her characters to be broken and in need of comfort. This is a trope that can be really powerful and meaningful and that moment when a character that can't love themselves has somebody to support them and be with them can be a really beautiful moment of climax and catharsis. It can be profound. It can speak to just about anybody who's gone through something terrible and just wanted somebody to be there with them.
But you... kind of have to be emotionally invested in that character, first. Maybe you don't necessarily need to have seen their tragic backstory firsthand, but you have to like them, you have to want them to be happy, and Lily just goes straight to 'here some bullshit that happened once now they're cuddling'. Even when she tries to show something happening -- in Violate, for instance, when we're supposed to feel bad for G -- she doesn't give the moment any breathing room, it's just 'this happened, here's literally just enough panels to resolve the conflict without anybody actually trying, now they're cuddling'.
You also need the hardships to actually mean something to the story. If all this hardship does is give an excuse for the character to be upset for a scene, then it's just wasting our time. Does it add anything to the character? Does it link to other scenes? Build upon themes? Build upon actions the character has/is going to take? Alaina being sad about something for a scene before being excused by her bottom bitch doesn't add anything, it's just filler.
If Memoirs of a Geisha the book is anything like the movie, Liliana just recommended that kids should read about the everyday life of a prostitute who sells herself under a Japenese owner and later sold herself to American clients.
Chiyo was the second daughter of a poor fisherman in Yoroido and a curiosity in her village - her eyes were blue (in the novel they were blue-grey). Ser father was old and her mother terminally ill; thus the parents were persuaded to sell their daughters for a more secured life. Chiyo and sister Satsu were promptly sent to Gion(geisha district) right away. Auntie decides to keep her in the Nitta Okiya, but rejects her sister. Satsu is then sent to a common brothel in the Miyagawa-Cho district to become a prostitute.
After the war, Mameha and Sayuri found it hard to survive as genuine geishas. The American soldiers are the big spender now, and they prefer common prostitutes to geishas. Pumpkin's fell from grace now turned out to be a blessing.
The most prominent voice against the book in Japan is that of the former geisha Golden thanks most lavishly for providing him with details about life in Gion, the geisha district. Mineko Iwasaki reportedly said that Golden committed inaccuracies and slights, and she complained that he overemphasized the role of sex in the geisha world.
Regardless, I don't understand what Kylo, the diamonds or Starglimmer have to do there? I never heard anyone saying any of those character are classic, are reminiscent of any classic or should be classics so I don't know how mentioning them is relevant to what was before.
If Memoirs of a Geisha the book is anything like the movie, Liliana just recommended that kids should read about the everyday life of a prostitute who sells herself under a Japenese owner and later sold herself to American clients.
Regardless, I don't understand what Kylo, the diamonds or Starglimmer have to do there? I never heard anyone saying any of those character are classic, are reminiscent of any classic or should be classics so I don't know how mentioning them is relevant to what was before.
I think she was getting at them all being 'tropes', probably the redemption arc/heel-turn trope or something and how that just because they fill some kind of trope that doesn't mean they are actually good or compelling characters.
Frankly, one of the most frequently frustrating things about Lily's criticisms are her obsessions with tropes. She can't even describe her own works without using TVTropes language. It's like she uses that site as some kind of gospel for her writing...
This is even funnier because shes comparing William Shakespeare, one of the most important writers in all of western history, to Seth Mac-fucking-Farlane, aka the man who writes poop jokes for adults. God this post just reeks of top tier shit taste.
This is funny because how does a supposed woke woman of color not know about this trope?
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This is even funnier because shes comparing William Shakespeare, one of the most important writers in all of western history, to Seth Mac-fucking-Farlane, aka the man who writes poop jokes for adults. God this post just reeks of top tier shit taste.
It's like asking if there's an Ed Wood of poets or Ian McKellan of printmakers. Each medium is entirely different and there's a different crop of people that goes with each. It's a vague worthless question, and I doubt Lily even knows more than 4 playwrights anyway.
Jerry really does manage to hit a sweet spot where he is somehow more arrogant than that guy. You might know that guy: they got one book published, and suddenly they're hot shit?
That said, the irony of saying that Twilight needed 'capital' (from the author!) to be printed into stores endlessly. The point of going through a publisher is that they eat the costs of shit like that (to make more money, of course).
Jerry must have tried self-publishing at some point and never even tried submitting a book to even a low level publisher.
Given the assumption that only white works about Capitalist men (and rich ones!) are published (especially in the modern era, holy shit!), it's no brainer why they would shit on works of old masters like Shakespeare.
if Doug likes SU and wants to share his experience with his audience, what is the problem with that?
Lily and her stans cannot accept that her opinion is not accepted as superior to others and that there are still people who like and support the shows she criticized, and frankly Doug is basically harmless in relation to the critical media community the most that can be said about him is that his criticisms are shallow and dumb, unlike Lily who makes the claim that everyone who disagrees with her are horrible human beings who endorse abuse and fascism
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Lily has been writing the same story over and over again in different fanfics, which is nothing more than the story she projects on herself, and now she has a problem with people figuring it out?
it's nothing special and new to say that Lily makes everything she writes about her and how she deserves more love and appreciation
maybe that's why people liking what she doesn't like is so bad, she doesn't feel validated
Doug's critique of SU is one of the most balanced and well reasoned ones I've seen in years from an online critic with a big following. He doesn't always hit the mark, but my own positive bias to the show aside he's dead on here. Lily, being the insufferable cynic that she is, can't see the forest for the trees and sees degeneracy in every shadow.
Like I don't fully DISAGREE with him here because I think kids ought to have more options with what they're required to read while maintaining the message teachers are trying to convey, but there are still some classical books that I'm sure we were all forced to read at some point that have symbolism and themes rife throughout the stories and were executed rather well, like The Crucible, Of Mice and Men, Lord of the Flies, even Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. Personally I enjoyed them all and they've each been vastly influential on literature in one way or another.
Reading tough books like The Scarlet Letter may also assist the kids reading them with their fiction analytical skills and help them walk away with a damn good lesson in the end, for instance learning that people (like Hester) who may feel they're defined by their mistakes can still be forgiven, or that people (like Chillingworth) who harbor intense resentment for others may end up destroying themselves rather than their enemy (HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM). I can't even pick a specific post of him sperging about Lizzy to link here so just look at the whole Lizzy thing that happened last week lol
Jerry would probably figure that if he was a competent analyst of fictional media, or if he genuinely believed any of the virtues I just mentioned. In fact I might have figured out why he hates The Scarlet Letter in particular. LOL
Bold of me to assume he's even read it in the first place instead of stubbornly playing WoW in protest like the NEET he is
To avoid double posting:
The witchcult grows and likes pulling out their leader’s fav Hadith.
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Thank you for doing a lot of the work I was intending to do later. Really saves me a lot of trouble.
Also I'm just glad I've barely paid any attention to Moviebob all these years. He seems absolutely insufferable.
Thank you for doing a lot of the work I was intending to do later. Really saves me a lot of trouble.
Also I'm just glad I've barely paid any attention to Moviebob all these years. He seems absolutely insufferable.
For a second, I thought Bonnie was trying to make a fat joke.
That, or reference that infamous scene from one of the most reviled comedies.
Thank you for doing a lot of the work I was intending to do later. Really saves me a lot of trouble.
Also I'm just glad I've barely paid any attention to Moviebob all these years. He seems absolutely insufferable.
For a second, I thought Bonnie was trying to make a fat joke.
That, or reference that infamous scene from one of the most reviled comedies.
No worries! She repeats a lot of her go outside shutdowns. Other than that her twitter is a ghost town of content. Besides simping for that man. Glad I don’t know anything about MovieBob by the sounds of it.
Oh and midnight political rambling about throwing the Conservative party into a pit with .... the Bloc Québécois the party that no one outside of Quebec votes for... for some reason?
NDP is from what I can see is all for the strengthening of unions. But when they’re given power, they use the money to bail out their union bedmates and put the country into debt.
Also casual hatred of Quebec and its separatist ways tracks with someone who claims to be native. She would be treated horribly in that province if she was native. But nazis? Really?
Stop everything gentlemen. We have another classic entry in the all important pokemon comic I know you were all dying to read.
It’s the kind of thing that stays in chat for a reason. Its never meant to be fully realized. Now I’m glad the doormat doesn’t get paid for madhouse. These half cocked comics feel like her and the wife lifting jokes that make them personally laugh while they’re distracted playing Warcraft.
Or it’s just another case of misunderstanding words and dad jokes again.
So is the brown haired thing a half-pokemon half human hybrid or some other sort of hot mess of an abomination?
Like, I get it, having a reallly unique OC is great when you're thirteen, but I was under the impression that Jerry's not thirteen.
This is even funnier because shes comparing William Shakespeare, one of the most important writers in all of western history, to Seth Mac-fucking-Farlane, aka the man who writes poop jokes for adults. God this post just reeks of top tier shit taste.
Jerry probably doesn't know this but: Shakespeare DID write poop jokes. And fart jokes. And dick jokes. If you actually understand the language you quickly realize his plays were basically the trash pop culture of their time.
alot of Shakespeare was old school shit posting, playing up on pop culture, and just doing his own thing because he was Shakespeare, he could get away with whatever the fuck he wanted. Hell he even got away with making up words and people went along with it.
The difference is we still talk about Romeo and Juliet and how that play pretty much set the standard for future and forevermore love stories, wether its in written, lyrically, on the screen or through poetry. Romeo and Juliet literally was the enemies to lovers, forbidden love, illegal love (he was a fucking adult depending on how you inteporate it) and the trope of 'if i cant have my partner nobody can' and they both off themselves in the name of love. Also the trope of two families fighting but a member of each falls in love with the other and brings both families together.
He literally defined tropes, and the whole love genre to an extent!
I dont think family guy is going to be remembered as the show that defines a whole genre and people will mould their shows after it for centuries to come... if anything that would have been the simposns.. the thing family guy ripped off to begin with.
So is the brown haired thing a half-pokemon half human hybrid or some other sort of hot mess of an abomination?
Like, I get it, having a reallly unique OC is great when you're thirteen, but I was under the impression that Jerry's not thirteen.
Jerry probably doesn't know this but: Shakespeare DID write poop jokes. And fart jokes. And dick jokes. If you actually understand the language you quickly realize his plays were basically the trash pop culture of their time.
Yeah, you got a point, but here's the thing, Shakespeare's plays managed to combine potty humor for the peasants and engaging stories for the upper class into one complete story that could appeal to a broad audience. Sure, you had a sex joke on minute, but that joke later played up to the theme of how family feuds (which were fairly prevalent at the time) were destructive to all those involved. Something like that might be a "thing" now, albeit one that's tricky to pull off, but Shakespeare was one of the very first people to make media that had "wide-spread" appeal.
And to Seth's credit, he does have some good shows, The Orville being one that comes to mind, but it's more likely that Lily's judging Seth writing on Family Guy and American Dad and not his more, lesser known works which he puts a lot more effort into. Still, I wouldn't compare Seth McFarland to Shakespeare, Shakespeare was a trend setter, Seth Mcfarland is more of a trend follower (Family Guy, Orville, ect.), albeit a very good one.
