Personal Lolcows: Furry Edition - Only God Knows the Horror Lurking in this Fandom

It's definitely sexual. He claims it isn't, and that his comic is "not pornographic", but in the same instance advertises the uncensored version on his shitty patreon. Gee, it's like porn artists have a habit of doing that, too.


Weirdly, he doesn't seem to actually draw himself. All of his stuff I've found so far is art from other people. Whether it's commissions or him begging for art to be able to say "bro my comic is famous dont worry, I'll get you the money back" is debatable. Apparently this is how he treats artists.

And I'll say this - I had a total creep try to get a similar deal out of me years ago. Tried to claim he was working on a furry game, saying shit like it was taking all these tropes from Fallout and other famous games and would of course get big. All he was /ideas/. He had no money to properly commission people to even work on it, just the whole "exposure". He had no plan, just kept changing ideas and shit all the time and if you asked about the progress of the 'game' all he could give you was random art he got and typing up massive lore paragraphs. So yeah, 0%.
It was pathetic, and I feel sorry for any artists who get roped into this shit. It always feels like just an elaborate way to get 'free art'.


But his ego seems fucking massive. He always promotes his comics solely as himself being the 'Writer/Creator'. He claims his work is completely print-only and you won't find it online, which seems like a bait tactic to try get comic fans to buy it to give it a chance. All I can say is, don't bother.

Why the fuck is it posted under Dark Horse? His stuff is completely self published from what I've seen.

He's currently going across all of his personal and 'business' accounts, spamming the hell out of Follow-for-follow tweets, to the point I got an "Account restricted for strange activity" warning on every single account. Yeah, more proof this weird dude has absaloutely no audience at all. Selling millions my ass.

I can't get Archive to work right now for his wikifur page, but if it's any hint, the warning at the top tells you what is ahead.

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Holy shit this dude is the definition of unwarranted self importance. He seems like someone that could easily be milked.
 
Just sharing a story about my personal furry cow. :heart-full:
There is this girl that thinks she is an actual dragon.

It started when she was around 14 years old. Everybody at that age is a little shit, so no judgement. But there was something off about her. One day she started explaining everyone that she is a dragon from another dimension, trapped in this human body. The dragon character she imagined herself to be was a character from a fantasy novel series.

At the age of 15 she took a kitchen knife and tried to stab / kill her own mother.
Her reasoning: She is a dragon and this "human" is not her "real" mother.

Next stop was the psychiatric hospital of course. She was gone for some time and once she got out, she proudly explained telling the therapists about knowing being a human being and not a dragon. But she just told this to get the fuck out of there and was still 100% convinced of being this weird ass fantasy dragon. I don't remember her diagnosis, but I think it was something related to schizophrenia.

Time passed and she got into the furry community (of course). Not linking her accounts here since they are pretty dead and boring. She failed at everything in life as you can imagine. Once applying to art school, she submitted artwork of her fursona. Imagine the faces of the professors when they had a look at a folder full of cringy furry artwork. (badly drawn artwork to top it off).

After that fiasco she met this fat blob of a lesbian, looking like a dude. They started cosplaying together and the fat lesbian proposed to "dragon girl". She proposed while they were (in the most horrific way) cosplaying as "Hans" and "Anna" from the Disney movie "Frozen" in a god damn shopping mall.

And that's the story. Still makes me wanna grab a flamethrower after all those years...
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Just sharing a story about my personal furry cow. :heart-full:
There is this girl that thinks she is an actual dragon.

It started when she was around 14 years old. Everybody at that age is a little shit, so no judgement. But there was something off about her. One day she started explaining everyone that she is a dragon from another dimension, trapped in this human body. The dragon character she imagined herself to be was a character from a fantasy novel series.

At the age of 15 she took a kitchen knife and tried to stab / kill her own mother.
Her reasoning: She is a dragon and this "human" is not her "real" mother.

Next stop was the psychiatric hospital of course. She was gone for some time and once she got out, she proudly explained telling the therapists about knowing being a human being and not a dragon. But she just told this to get the fuck out of there and was still 100% convinced of being this weird ass fantasy dragon. I don't remember her diagnosis, but I think it was something related to schizophrenia.

Time passed and she got into the furry community (of course). Not linking her accounts here since they are pretty dead and boring. She failed at everything in life as you can imagine. Once applying to art school, she submitted artwork of her fursona. Imagine the faces of the professors when they had a look at a folder full of cringy furry artwork. (badly drawn artwork to top it off).

After that fiasco she met this fat blob of a lesbian, looking like a dude. They started cosplaying together and the fat lesbian proposed to "dragon girl". She proposed while they were (in the most horrific way) cosplaying as "Hans" and "Anna" from the Disney movie "Frozen" in a god damn shopping mall.

And that's the story. Still makes me wanna grab a flamethrower after all those years...
(:_(
Do you have any of her art? I'd love to hear more about this person.
 
Do you have any of her art? I'd love to hear more about this person.

Here you go. It's really boring though. She (apparently she now identifies as a "he") draws mostly dragons, weird fanart and a lot of stuff about gender (pride flags,...).

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Edit: She also has a Patreon, which doesn't have many followers.
 
Just sharing a story about my personal furry cow. :heart-full:
There is this girl that thinks she is an actual dragon.

It started when she was around 14 years old. Everybody at that age is a little shit, so no judgement. But there was something off about her. One day she started explaining everyone that she is a dragon from another dimension, trapped in this human body. The dragon character she imagined herself to be was a character from a fantasy novel series.

At the age of 15 she took a kitchen knife and tried to stab / kill her own mother.
Her reasoning: She is a dragon and this "human" is not her "real" mother.

Next stop was the psychiatric hospital of course. She was gone for some time and once she got out, she proudly explained telling the therapists about knowing being a human being and not a dragon. But she just told this to get the fuck out of there and was still 100% convinced of being this weird ass fantasy dragon. I don't remember her diagnosis, but I think it was something related to schizophrenia.

Time passed and she got into the furry community (of course). Not linking her accounts here since they are pretty dead and boring. She failed at everything in life as you can imagine. Once applying to art school, she submitted artwork of her fursona. Imagine the faces of the professors when they had a look at a folder full of cringy furry artwork. (badly drawn artwork to top it off).

After that fiasco she met this fat blob of a lesbian, looking like a dude. They started cosplaying together and the fat lesbian proposed to "dragon girl". She proposed while they were (in the most horrific way) cosplaying as "Hans" and "Anna" from the Disney movie "Frozen" in a god damn shopping mall.

And that's the story. Still makes me wanna grab a flamethrower after all those years...
(:_(

Holy shit that's one hell of a story. Did she ever say she identified as an "otherkin" or get involved with that community? Or just strictly furry stuff. The way I see it, Otherkin are basically furry adjacent, a lot of overlap, but they're their own brand of crazy as well, and she sounds exactly like the sort. Legitimately believing she is a dragon not just roleplaying.

Here you go. It's really boring though. She (apparently she now identifies as a "he") draws mostly dragons, weird fanart and a lot of stuff about gender (pride flags,...).

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Edit: She also has a Patreon, which doesn't have many followers.

Yeah that's pretty boring compared to the story of her going insane and being sent to the madhouse. Her art ain't bad (not great either, but come on, we've all seen worse). Interested in that "now identifies as a he", are we talking a full trooning out and trying to get her tits chopped off, or just a low effort "nonbinary transition" kind of deal?
 
Holy shit that's one hell of a story. Did she ever say she identified as an "otherkin" or get involved with that community? Or just strictly furry stuff. The way I see it, Otherkin are basically furry adjacent, a lot of overlap, but they're their own brand of crazy as well, and she sounds exactly like the sort. Legitimately believing she is a dragon not just roleplaying.

Yes, she identified as an otherkin, at least until recently. She truly believes in being a dragon and once wrote that she can still feel her dragon wings although they are not visible "on her human body". Also there was this whole story she believed in being the "true reality". It was from a literal fiction novel about dragons. The girl believed being from this reality described in the novel and thought she stranded on earth due to some mistake. Every little detail of her story was kind of flashed out.
I do not exactly know WHY she believed in this fantasy, but she has been diagnosed with several mental health issues. One was schizophrenia if I remember correctly.
That girl believed so hard in being a dragon and whatnot that it led to her attacking her own mother. Brutal.

Back to your questions: Before "coming out" as an otherkin she became part of the furry community, trying to fit in and sell her artwork. She also is heavily into furry / anime roleplaying, but understands that the characters she is playing are not herself. She seems to share more interests with furries than with the otherkin community. (anime, cartoons)

Also kinda interesting: Everything including dragons in any shape or form attracts her. At one point she even got a bearded dragon as a pet since it's called a "dragon".

Her art is pretty lame, but yeah... just boring. She submitted this kind of artwork to art academies though, what is a bold move. Dragon girl also calls herself an artist and an animator, thinking really highly of her drawings while they are just mediocre at best.

Regarding her gender. Just the regular "nonbinary transition" stuff, nothing crazy. She is dating this older lesbian, who is fat and looks like an ugly man. They are both female, but look.... kinda male? Calling themselves "husbands" what is pretty weird.

I wish I still knew where to find the photos of their engagement. They made some horrible cosplay photos in the shopping mall, documenting their engagement and later shared it on the internet. Just imagine a dude being dressed up in a badly made "Anna" (from Frozen) cosplay and another person looking like Jabba The Hut being squeezed in an equally laughable "Hans" outfit. Those images were hard to look at, so it's probably better that they are gone.
 
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It's late december, around Christmas time.
I'm hanging in a chat group when a friend of mine sends me a peculiar piece of media:
"I Wanna be One of Santa's Reindeer," by Max Degroot and Orenotter.

Immediately, I'm entranced- the song's ridiculous, the art is horrific, and the singer sounds much older than most furries I've interacted with in the past. So I do some reading and some looking around. Orenotter wrote the song and did the 'art' for the video- he's a pretty typical rightwing boomer furry, with a special thanks at the end of the music video to 'Clean, straight furries' and Jesus Christ. Orenotter claims to be a 'pastor' in one FA journal, but is otherwise cagey about their real identity.

Max Degroot, on the other hand, is something else entirely. Going to his FA, I'm immediately greeted by some fun information- he's part of an "Ohiofurs" group and his madmusic profile goes on to say that he's from Columbus. Furthermore, despite the fact that 'Max Degroot' is apparently a pseudonym, the man's face is
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So he's an older furry who's gone out of his way to provide personal information. That alone makes him an easy target, but it isn't what makes him a lolcow. No, what makes him a lolcow is his content.

Max fancies himself a singer, songwriter, and storyteller, and his various furry media accounts (Furaffinity, SoFurry, and InkBunny) are rife with his creations. (Note- his SoFurry is in-character as 'Dipper,' a 12-year-old anthropomorphic bear. The page claims that Max is '5 times' Dipper's age, which pins the man's age at... Around 60.) Max's content is... Different. He has a fictional 'rock group' known as the "Beach Bears" under which he produces music, as well as an 'audio drama'... about... Something military? I can't be bothered to listen to all of it because each chapter is 12 minutes long and includes a musical number, but there's lots of cartoon bears in military fatigues.

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It's all very silly. Aside from his preoccupation with characters that are 'a fifth of his age,' Max seems otherwise harmless.

...His faves still give me the fucking creeps though.
I mean
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It's late december, around Christmas time.
I'm hanging in a chat group when a friend of mine sends me a peculiar piece of media:
"I Wanna be One of Santa's Reindeer," by Max Degroot and Orenotter.

Immediately, I'm entranced- the song's ridiculous, the art is horrific, and the singer sounds much older than most furries I've interacted with in the past. So I do some reading and some looking around. Orenotter wrote the song and did the 'art' for the video- he's a pretty typical rightwing boomer furry, with a special thanks at the end of the music video to 'Clean, straight furries' and Jesus Christ. Orenotter claims to be a 'pastor' in one FA journal, but is otherwise cagey about their real identity.

Max Degroot, on the other hand, is something else entirely. Going to his FA, I'm immediately greeted by some fun information- he's part of an "Ohiofurs" group and his madmusic profile goes on to say that he's from Columbus. Furthermore, despite the fact that 'Max Degroot' is apparently a pseudonym, the man's face is

So he's an older furry who's gone out of his way to provide personal information. That alone makes him an easy target, but it isn't what makes him a lolcow. No, what makes him a lolcow is his content.

Max fancies himself a singer, songwriter, and storyteller, and his various furry media accounts (Furaffinity, SoFurry, and InkBunny) are rife with his creations. (Note- his SoFurry is in-character as 'Dipper,' a 12-year-old anthropomorphic bear. The page claims that Max is '5 times' Dipper's age, which pins the man's age at... Around 60.) Max's content is... Different. He has a fictional 'rock group' known as the "Beach Bears" under which he produces music, as well as an 'audio drama'... about... Something military? I can't be bothered to listen to all of it because each chapter is 12 minutes long and includes a musical number, but there's lots of cartoon bears in military fatigues.


It's all very silly. Aside from his preoccupation with characters that are 'a fifth of his age,' Max seems otherwise harmless.

...His faves still give me the fucking creeps though.
I mean
Oh god, seeing that youtube video, then the uploaders name - Oren Otter is notorious on furry places especially like Facebook for his 'Straight furries' group, which is pretty much Burned Furs v2 in group form. Incredibly christian, 'straighties only' place that says NO PORN ALLOWED but if it's straight porn that's ok. The guy is weird, I'm not surprised about so much else behind him.

Basically: Titties good, fuck the gays, I love jesus

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If Marten Ferret taught me anything, the overly Religious christian good boys are the creepiest fuckers.
 
Oh god, seeing that youtube video, then the uploaders name - Oren Otter is notorious on furry places especially like Facebook for his 'Straight furries' group, which is pretty much Burned Furs v2 in group form. Incredibly christian, 'straighties only' place that says NO PORN ALLOWED but if it's straight porn that's ok. The guy is weird, I'm not surprised about so much else behind him.

Basically: Titties good, fuck the gays, I love jesus



If Marten Ferret taught me anything, the overly Religious christian good boys are the creepiest fuckers.
Internalized homophobia is a thing, you know.
 
It's late december, around Christmas time.
I'm hanging in a chat group when a friend of mine sends me a peculiar piece of media:
"I Wanna be One of Santa's Reindeer," by Max Degroot and Orenotter.

Immediately, I'm entranced- the song's ridiculous, the art is horrific, and the singer sounds much older than most furries I've interacted with in the past. So I do some reading and some looking around. Orenotter wrote the song and did the 'art' for the video- he's a pretty typical rightwing boomer furry, with a special thanks at the end of the music video to 'Clean, straight furries' and Jesus Christ. Orenotter claims to be a 'pastor' in one FA journal, but is otherwise cagey about their real identity.

Max Degroot, on the other hand, is something else entirely. Going to his FA, I'm immediately greeted by some fun information- he's part of an "Ohiofurs" group and his madmusic profile goes on to say that he's from Columbus. Furthermore, despite the fact that 'Max Degroot' is apparently a pseudonym, the man's face is

So he's an older furry who's gone out of his way to provide personal information. That alone makes him an easy target, but it isn't what makes him a lolcow. No, what makes him a lolcow is his content.

Max fancies himself a singer, songwriter, and storyteller, and his various furry media accounts (Furaffinity, SoFurry, and InkBunny) are rife with his creations. (Note- his SoFurry is in-character as 'Dipper,' a 12-year-old anthropomorphic bear. The page claims that Max is '5 times' Dipper's age, which pins the man's age at... Around 60.) Max's content is... Different. He has a fictional 'rock group' known as the "Beach Bears" under which he produces music, as well as an 'audio drama'... about... Something military? I can't be bothered to listen to all of it because each chapter is 12 minutes long and includes a musical number, but there's lots of cartoon bears in military fatigues.


It's all very silly. Aside from his preoccupation with characters that are 'a fifth of his age,' Max seems otherwise harmless.

...His faves still give me the fucking creeps though.
I mean
I've seen that artist's art on instagram (third one down). I'm not saying he's a
pedophile. But there is something about his art style; every character looks so childish.
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Artists draw children all the time, but there's something about a furry artist drawing anthropomorphic children or drawing in a style that makes the characters appear young that irks me. And I think this arises from how sexual the fandom is.
 
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Artists draw children all the time, but there's something about a furry artist drawing anthropomorphic children or drawing in a style that makes the characters appear young that irks me. And I think this arises from how sexual the fandom is.
Oh, Paco has been well known for hiding cub porn on his patreon. He used to openly draw it on inkbunny years ago but deleted it all to clean up his image, I imagine, because of his growing popularity and usage as a conbook artist now. Or it might be hidden on his Inkbunny 'Friends only', which I've noticed people tend to use to share more riskier pics on there to only trusted followers.

It's easy to find it, since some of his commissioners still have the actual old arts uploaded under his name credit.
 
Oh, Paco has been well known for hiding cub porn on his patreon. He used to openly draw it on inkbunny years ago but deleted it all to clean up his image, I imagine, because of his growing popularity and usage as a conbook artist now. Or it might be hidden on his Inkbunny 'Friends only', which I've noticed people tend to use to share more riskier pics on there to only trusted followers.

It's easy to find it, since some of his commissioners still have the actual old arts uploaded under his name credit.
Damn, I knew something felt off.

Oh, Paco has been well known for hiding cub porn on his patreon. He used to openly draw it on inkbunny years ago but deleted it all to clean up his image, I imagine, because of his growing popularity and usage as a conbook artist now. Or it might be hidden on his Inkbunny 'Friends only', which I've noticed people tend to use to share more riskier pics on there to only trusted followers.

It's easy to find it, since some of his commissioners still have the actual old arts uploaded under his name credit.
*Sometimes* an artist's art style can really give away what they are into sexually. There have been a handful of times I correctly guessed an artist's fetish(es) based on just that alone. If I can confirm this a few more times, I'll make a thread or something about it.
 
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*Sometimes* an artist's art style can really give away what they are into sexually. There have been a handful of times I correctly guessed an artist's fetish(es) based on just that alone. If I can confirm this a few more times, I'll make a thread or something about it.
I think it's because some artists kinda struggle to turn off the ' fetish focus' on innocent pictures.
On fetish pics there's always this one part of the pic that tends to get the most detail and effort thrown in, since that's what people are looking for.

Then you get completely innocent pictures but the feet are just drawn really too fucking detailed or the open, laughing mouth is a little too realistic compared to the rest.

Walterringtail is one that comes to mind. Even on his damn Stan Lee tribute pic he had to put feet in there.
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I'm not saying he's a
pedophile. But there is something about his art style; every character looks so childish.
Are the characters adults? I guess either way it has a creepy, pedo undertone but I guess if they're children, he can more easily brush it off as innocent, child-like style for child characters but if they're adults..the portraying adults in child-like bodies is definitely more skeevy in my opinion. I automatically equate it to the "But she's actually a 2,000 year old demon" trop, or however it goes.
I'm sure you can guess what my line of thought is..I'm trying to avoid having to actually type it out. Barf..
 
Artists draw children all the time, but there's something about a furry artist drawing anthropomorphic children or drawing in a style that makes the characters appear young that irks me. And I think this arises from how sexual the fandom is.
You know what really fucking spooks me? Anthro Northwest is an ostensibly safe-for-work all-ages convention that arose largely because Rainfurrest was such a fetishy clusterfuck. Knowing that a cub fetishist did the official fliers for the 2019 meet creeps me out. Seriously, there's literal children at ANW. One of the biggest players in attendance is the "mothers of furries" podcast group.

Christ on a bike...
 
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