Megathread TERFs / Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists / Gender Critical Feminists - ft. r/GenderCritical & related reddits, Mancheeze, Cathy Brennan, GCDad, RadFHarva, Jamie Shupe, etc; "Gender Critical Feminism is Homophobic" - Cathy Brennan, 2019.

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Biden/Harris on the war path against TERFs: "57% of women voted for this"
(Pretty sure those 57% had no idea this was going to be enacted, and they won't know what hit them when they find out what this entails.)

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The QUEEN (aka Cathy Brennan, the godmother of online TERFs who has since rejected them) has spoken: "Gender Critical feminism is fighting a losing battle"


"Gender critical feminism is losing in the United States. You can rail about transpeople all you want, but transpeople exist. So, this is Westlaw, which is a legal resource you can look up. Cases, statutues, that kind of thing. And just to illustrate, as a legal concept gender identity exists, in United States statutes, it exists in cases, it exists in Supreme Court case law. Here's a search result. It's 1300 hits. It's not something we can just say, that shouldn't exist and it's bad. It actually is around. We have to deal with what's in front of us. It's kind of pointless to pretend it's not in front of us. There's been many cases argued regarding gender identity, under Title IX, there's been cases argued regarding gender identity under Title VII, gender identity comes up a lot in prison litigation, and there's important reasons why that is, obviously. And here's the search result of transgender, it has like 2400 results. So it's not something that you can simply hand-wave away. It is a concept, and like all legal concepts, you wanna understand them, see what they are about, see how they work or don't work for women's rights."
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(Am I suggesting that gender identity is just as ridiculous a legal concept as corporate personhood? Yes I am. Corporations aren't people just as men can't be women. I don't give a fuck how usable this workaround - giving personhood to corporations - seemed at the time it was conceived, the long-term effects are too destructive to allow it to persist. Corporate personhood did lead to a powergrab with corporations getting more than their due, and the same is happening now with the concept of gender identity. You have to stop that unlimited powergrab in both cases.)

OK Cathy, but look at conservatives shutting down abortion clinics. Say what you will about that as a feminist but conservatives were very effective in shutting down abortion clinics, their activism definitely made it harder for women to get an abortion. What if TERFs start adopting pro-life tactics? Not saying feminists are gonna bomb gender clinics or anything extreme like that - in fact, it's troons themselves who have murdered their therapists for refusing to give them transitions - but with Biden/Harris being pro-pediatric transition and on a full-on collision course with TERFs, many non-TERF or just trans-ignorant parents will peaktrans and go full TERF in the coming years, as their kids go trans under their noses in conspiracy with schools and doctors keeping the parents in the dark about their kids secretly transitioning. If GCF (or "cultural feminism" as you call it) is run by conservatives, what if these conservative activist collabing with TERFs go on to suggest pro-life-style activism to GCFs, arguing that you can use the same tactics to shut down a gender clinic that were used to shut down abortion clinics? What then? You might not be able to get rid of gender legally, but you can certainly protest gender in the most annoying manner to the point of shutting down a gender clinic. What if TERFs go literally "radical" like that?
 
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Only good thing about trannies is seeing them go into women's sport amd kick the shit out of women. So much for strong independent wahmen. Who knows women may have to actually get good at sports instead of being shit at sports and get paid for being trash. And just maybe people might actually start taking womens sport serious
 
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"Grab 'Em By The E.O." – Biden's Gender Identity Order | with Kara Dansky & Amy Sousa​


I continue to be astonished that there isn't a single woman who can rise up and be their Muad'Dib. They are getting absolutely destroyed on every front by the trans loonies but they continue to show not the slightest interest in learning the tactics of their enemies. Instead they wallow in the all so tired blather about misogyny and the like that is as effective as a 1950s era marketing campaign being run today.

Creepy men in cheap wigs entering our wive's and daughter's bathrooms?
Muscular men dressed as women shattering the jaws of their female sports opponents?

These are like topics a debate teacher gives to the retarded kid in class who just needs something easy to argue against.

And yet the TERS continue to get utterly annihilated in any sort of public discourse.
 
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Now this is interesting. A TERF has apparently put out a new documentary called "TERF WARS The Movie". I'm always down for a good documentary, I'll definitely have a look at this:

TERF WARS: The true story of the women fighting the transgender agenda (2021)


The documentary maker refers to herself as "Actually Karen":

Actually Karen @karen_actually
Jan 29
Introducing #TerfWars the movie. Not for profit. If you enjoy it, please share it! Featuring all your favourite gender critical feminists and some TRAs too Smiling face with smiling eyes if you're wondering how #BidenErasedWomen now would be a good time for you to watch!
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I watched this documentary and my first impression is that it's way too esoteric for normies and newbies to this topic. It's a documentary by TERFs for TERFs, especially the kinds of TERFs who spend too much of their time online closely following the culture wars. No one outside of TERFdom is going to understand who the hell all these people in the documentary are, why they are relevant/important, why the gender/sex distinction is significant, etc. IMO, Actually Karen should've started her documentary with the medical part first, since that's the most important thing to dismantle when it comes to normies/newbies. Normies still think that trans is a medical-something. Showing them what trans has become today - pure self-ID, no transition is necessary to call yourself trans, no diagnosis - is literally the most important step towards peaktrans in a normie, because it will make them realize they were lied to all this time by the medical establishment, and normies are already distrustful of the medical establishment due to the pandemic.

If you want normies to understand why this issue matters and how it could affect them, you have to explain all these things to them carefully and slowly, not with a clip show. This documentary dives into transgenderism way too deep way too soon. A proper introduction would explain explain why the medical establishment and trans activists themselves shifted away from old school transsexualism to the more politically correct "transgenderism" (to avoid the "sex" word), assuming that would make them seem more respectable - just as they began catering to outright fetishists, allowing them to go trans to expand a medical industry.

The music is way too dated. You can tell this documentary was made by a GenXer who stopped listening to new music in the late 1990s. If Brittany Spears is the most recent cultural reference you can think of, Actually Karen, you are waaay out of the loop. No one under 30 will recognize this music or any of these bands you are using. In fact, zoomers have told me that 1980s and 1990s music sounds unpleasant to them because of how unpolished and gritty it all sounds - the very reason Gen Xers like it, because to them the grittiness makes it sound authentic. Zoomers like synth wave music and soundcloud rap , not loud, screechy electric guitars, so make sure the music you're using has a lot of synthy sounds and rap beats. Avoid anything with dominant guitar sounds. I bet Actually Karen has never heard of Janelle Monae or Run the Jewels and doesn't even know what "Soundcloud rap" means.

Finally, it seems to me like Actually Karen has a secret fetish for black women performers and the way they are portrayed as sexually aggressive in rap music. Part of Actually Karen's argument against gender ideology is that sexually aggressive black pop singers are causing young girls to develop gender dysphoria and to turn away from the prospect of adult womanhood in disgust and horror. There is literally a part in this documentary where Alpha TERF Sheila Jeffreys blames black women in rap for the fact that young girls do not want to grow up to be adult sexual women and would rather grow up to be boys - because how could demure white girls ever sexually live up to or even compete with all that "bestial black sexual aggression" that's being held up as the end-all be-all to being an adult woman. Any young person who's into the SJW cult in general (not just trans ideology but the CRT part of the SJW cult) is going to look at this part of the documentary and just think: "This racist TERF hates all my favourite pop singers.". Sure, that video for WAP is oversexed, a lot of popular black culture is oversexed and pornofied, but as long as black artists refuse to take a long hard look at themselves, any white person taking them to task for evidently pornofying black culture for mass appeal is going to be shouted down and cancelled. Let's not forget all the white female performers who made this sexualization of women in pop music very profitable. It is really nothing new in pop culture, so why did young girls develop an aversion, not just to seeing other women being oversexed but to being a woman in and of itself? Remember Madonna, Actually Karen? I know you stopped listening to new music in the late 1990s, but you might have heard of Miley Cyrus. Do you consider Ariana Grande to be a POC for being Hispanic, or is she white enough for you to be considered an oversexed white woman? Turning this into a black/white thing is a losing strategy and just makes you look "sus" (as in "suspect") to SJW brainwashed teenagers. Attacking their favourite music artists might score you points with other TERFs who also hate oversexed sexually aggressive black female pop singers, it's just gonna get you ignored (at best) by ROGD youngsters.
 
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Nykysnottrans said:
Now this is interesting. A TERF has apparently put out a new documentary called "TERF WARS The Movie". I'm always down for a good documentary, I'll definitely have a look at this:

TERF WARS: The true story of the women fighting the transgender agenda (2021)


The documentary maker refers to herself as "Actually Karen":



I watched this documentary and my first impression is that it's way too esoteric for normies and newbies to this topic. It's a documentary by TERFs for TERFs, especially the kinds of TERFs who spend too much of their time online closely following the culture wars. No one outside of TERFdom is going to understand who the hell all these people in the documentary are, why they are relevant/important, why the gender/sex distinction is significant, etc. IMO, Actually Karen should've started her documentary with the medical part first, since that's the most important thing to dismantle when it comes to normies/newbies. Normies still think that trans is a medical-something. Showing them what trans has become today - pure self-ID, no transition is necessary to call yourself trans, no diagnosis - is literally the most important step towards peaktrans in a normie, because it will make them realize they were lied to all this time by the medical establishment, and normies are already distrustful of the medical establishment due to the pandemic.

If you want normies to understand why this issue matters and how it could affect them, you have to explain all these things to them carefully and slowly, not with a clip show. This documentary dives into transgenderism way too deep way too soon. A proper introduction would explain explain why the medical establishment and trans activists themselves shifted away from old school transsexualism to the more politically correct "transgenderism" (to avoid the "sex" word), assuming that would make them seem more respectable - just as they began catering to outright fetishists, allowing them to go trans to expand a medical industry.

The music is way too dated. You can tell this documentary was made by a GenXer who stopped listening to new music in the late 1990s. If Brittany Spears is the most recent cultural reference you can think of, Actually Karen, you are waaay out of the loop. No one under 30 will recognize this music or any of these bands you are using. In fact, zoomers have told me that 1980s and 1990s music sounds unpleasant to them because of how unpolished and gritty it all sounds - the very reason Gen Xers like it, because to them the grittiness makes it sound authentic. Zoomers like synth wave music and soundcloud rap , not loud, screechy electric guitars, so make sure the music you're using has a lot of synthy sounds and rap beats. Avoid anything with dominant guitar sounds. I bet Actually Karen has never heard of Janelle Monae or Run the Jewels and doesn't even know what "Soundcloud rap" means.

Finally, it seems to me like Actually Karen has a secret fetish for black women performers and the way they are portrayed as sexually aggressive in rap music. Part of Actually Karen's argument against gender ideology is that sexually aggressive black pop singers are causing young girls to develop gender dysphoria and to turn away from the prospect of adult womanhood in disgust and horror. There is literally a part in this documentary where Alpha TERF Sheila Jeffreys blames black women in rap for the fact that young girls do not want to grow up to be adult sexual women and would rather grow up to be boys - because how could demure white girls ever sexually live up to or even compete with all that "bestial black sexual aggression" that's being held up as the end-all be-all to being an adult woman. Any young person who's into the SJW cult in general (not just trans ideology but the CRT part of the SJW cult) is going to look at this part of the documentary and just think: "This racist TERF hates all my favourite pop singers.". Sure, that video for WAP is oversexed, a lot of popular black culture is oversexed and pornofied, but as long as black artists refuse to take a long hard look at themselves, any white person taking them to task for evidently pornofying black culture for mass appeal is going to be shouted down and cancelled. Let's not forget all the white female performers who made this sexualization of women in pop music very profitable. It is really nothing new in pop culture, so why did young girls develop an aversion, not just to seeing other women being oversexed but to being a woman in and of itself? Remember Madonna, Actually Karen? I know you stopped listening to new music in the late 1990s, but you might have heard of Miley Cyrus. Do you consider Ariana Grande to be a POC for being Hispanic, or is she white enough for you to be considered an oversexed white woman? Turning this into a black/white thing is a losing strategy and just makes you look "sus" (as in "suspect") to SJW brainwashed teenagers. Attacking their favourite music artists might score you points with other TERFs who also hate oversexed sexually aggressive black female pop singers, it's just gonna get you ignored (at best) by ROGD youngsters.
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These sorts of "documentaries" aren't aimed at educating; it's a "hugbox documentary" meant to boost ingroup morale.
 
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Is this thread just for the trannies that have this site confused with Reddit or what

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They probably mean when it’s a trans woman doing the male violence Lol

Call it dumb if you want but if you want to force females who have been raped by someone’s cock to use she/her you’re as bad as any Troon.
 
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