Inside the Online Far Right’s ‘Glowie’ Obsession - Don't be alarmed, it's just a conspiracy theory of the paranoid

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In the aftermath of the January 6 riot, extremists have become obsessed with the federal agents who might lurk among them.

OLGA KHAZAN 25/1/2021 7:00 AM ET

Judging by the actions of those who stormed the Capitol, far-right extremists don’t fear arrest. But they do fear one thing: glowies.

During the Trump administration, many far-right groups’ main concern was figuring out how to recruit more people to the cause. But as federal law-enforcement officials continue to round up people suspected of involvement in the January 6 insurrection at the Capitol, and Joe Biden’s administration promises a crackdown on white-supremacist and anti-government radicals, extremists are on the verge of a crack-up, posting widely and worriedly about spies in their midst—“glowies.” That’s the term far-right groups use to describe people they suspect of being federal law-enforcement agents or informants infiltrating their communication channels, trying to catch them plotting violence, or prodding them into illegal acts.

The term is in widespread use among extremists: On January 6, one Telegram user made their channel, which was popular with the far right, private because “nameless faceless glowies are joining.” Two days later, another person suggested that glowies would “float dead cop story, to redirect public attention and sympathy,” referring to the death of the Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, who was beaten with a fire extinguisher during the riot and later died. One user recommended downloading an alternative platform, ZeroNet, saying, “Glowies cannot take it down.”

Screenshots of these Telegram channels were provided to me by Meghan Conroy, who researches far-right extremism at Moonshot CVE, an organization that aims to counter violent extremism. In addition, I found variations on the “glow” terminology all over 4chan, the imageboard that froths with racist and misogynist messages, and on TheDonald.win, the far-right successor to the pro-Trump subreddit r/The_Donald. All three platforms featured discussions of storming the Capitol in the days leading up to January 6.

Extremists have become more wary of real or perceived glowies since January 6. On the January 11, someone on 4chan asked, “What kind of shit should I get for the boogaloo?,” meaning the civil war that the far-right boogaloo bois are preparing for. This, another person responded, seemed like “glow”—the potential sign of an FBI agent. The same thing happened when another user asked about the best place to store guns. On TheDonald.win, someone suggested that the death of Ashli Babbitt, the woman killed during the Capitol riot, was possibly staged or orchestrated by glowies. “Since all you glowies are here looking for ‘Domestic Terrorists,’” another wrote, “Look in the mirror then apologize for Ruby Ridge you sick fucks,” referring to the 1992 siege by U.S. Marshals in Idaho that led to the deaths of three people.

“With increased content moderation by platforms and tons of researchers/analysts paying more attention to the right, it appears these folks want to keep the momentum of the sixth going but are afraid to talk about it openly,” Conroy told me via email.

Federal law enforcement, of course, has a long history of monitoring extremist groups. FBI informants infiltrated both the far-left Weather Underground and the Ku Klux Klan, among others. The FBI declined to comment on whether its agents or informants are currently monitoring far-right communications channels or posting in them directly. But federal agents don’t have to be actively watching the channels to complicate the extremists’ mission. Being watched makes planning harder. So does constant suspicion. The mere possibility of glowies among the militias might be enough to reduce the threat of extremist violence in the coming months.

Far-right forums are rife with racism and misogyny, so perhaps it’s no surprise that glowie derives from the language of hate. The term originated with Terry Davis, a computer programmer who had schizophrenia and harbored paranoid conspiracies about the government. Davis used a racial slur to describe federal agents glowing in the dark in a 2017 video. Because the internet is a strange place, the term took off, becoming popular on 4chan’s white-nationalist /pol/ board and spreading to other platforms.

Glowie has also sprouted other permutations: Someone who seems suspicious is said to be “glowing.” Seeming too much like an FBI agent—known as an “alphabet” in these forums—is called “glowposting.”

For instance, asking a question like “Do you know where I can get schematics for 3-D-printed guns?” might be considered glowposting, because it suggests that the user is attempting to lure his interlocutor toward committing a crime, says Hampton Stall, a senior researcher at the Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project and the founder of the MilitiaWatch blog. If someone is suspected of being a federal agent or an informant for the FBI, other group members will “fedjacket” him or her, making the case about why the person is secretly a snitch. To prevent feds from joining, some forums have devised elaborate vetting procedures. For instance, they’ll ask potential members to send a picture of one of their biceps, on the theory that a reverse image search will reveal whether the picture is original. Also, “they’re very bro-ey,” Stall told me.

Then there’s “glowing,” which is talking about things that are violent and threatening—and therefore likely to attract the attention of cops. In a chat on the Element messenger app that Conroy is in, people have asked, for example, “How brightly are we allowed to glow here?” Or, as part of a conversation about the apparent desire to execute members of Congress, one user said, “Yeah, I’d say every single congresscritter needs to go.” “That’s my kind of glowing right there,” another user responded.

In order to attempt to cover their tracks, extremists will sometimes spell out their violent desires, then quickly add, “in Minecraft.” Because you can’t get arrested for wanting to kill people in a video game, right?

The meaning of glowies has evolved over time. In addition to referring to feds, the term is sometimes applied to dissenters, anti-fascists, or tech companies that might try to take down far-right forums. “If somebody gets out of line in the chat, they accuse them of being antifa,” Stall said.

It’s hard to impersonate the subculture of a group you don’t belong to, so newcomers tend to write messages that read as slightly off, a “How do you do, fellow kids?” from an interloper. The members think, “This could be law enforcement, this could be antifa, but it’s probably not Joe White Supremacist,” says Mark Pitcavage, a senior research fellow at the Center on Extremism at the Anti-Defamation League. “Anybody who strikes them as being different from the crowd is raising alarm bells with them.”

Still, the extremists’ glow-dar isn’t very good, Stall said. They miss people who are very obviously federal agents, or they accuse random users of glowing because they’ll say something like “Time to kill all Democrats.” Police officers who sympathize with white supremacists have been accused of glowing when they actually appear to be trying to help the extremists’ cause.

Extremists’ suspicion of law enforcement might seem strange, given that off-duty police officers were among the mob who stormed the Capitol earlier this month. But although far-right extremists tend to see local law enforcement as the ultimate authority, federal agents, to many of them, are extensions of the federal government, and therefore illegitimate.

In fact, as Arie Perliger, a professor of security studies at UMass Lowell, pointed out in a recent paper, even as law-enforcement officers have joined the ranks of far-right militias, militias have increased their attacks on law-enforcement and military targets. “You can be a police officer, but if you’re not someone who’s part of their constituency,” Perliger told me, “you’re the enemy.”

Many people who have expressed support for the Capitol insurrection talk of glowies, but it’s not yet clear how many of the people who actually seized the building are familiar with the term. Though dozens of known white supremacists who were on a terrorist watch list joined in the Capitol attack, as The Washington Post reported, the mob also included everyone from a horned shaman to a tech CEO. Members of militias like the Oath Keepers and the Three Percenters also appeared to be there, but several experts told me those groups don’t typically use online lingo like glowing, which is more commonly used by younger, more tech-savvy radicals.

Regardless of their affiliation, the rioters largely saw the day as a success. To some, it was a sign that the broad far-right movement is growing in strength. “The race war that they really fantasize about, you know, ‘It feels like that we can actually bring this to fruition now, that we’re really gathering steam following what happened on the 6th,’” Peter Simi, a sociologist at Chapman University who studies extremists, told me. Counterterrorism officials are predicting that the boogaloo movement, in particular, might commit additional violence in the coming weeks.

That’s especially likely because the Biden administration will stoke these groups’ rage. “The history of the militia movement for the past four years has been them scrounging around to find other enemies to spend energy on—antifa, Democrats in Congress, governors doing lockdown measures, Black Lives Matter, all sorts of other things to occupy their time,” Pitcavage, of the Anti-Defamation League, told me. “But with Biden as president, it’s quite possible that they will revert to form and once more become extremely antagonistic to the federal government and grow.”

And though extremists have recently been kicked off mainstream sites like Facebook and Twitter, they are still active on more esoteric platforms, such as Gab, Rocket.Chat, MeWe, Signal, Rumble, DLive, BitChute, and AR15.com, among others.

Still, even in these obscure corners of the internet, they might be right to be paranoid about glowies. “There’s a long history of law enforcement infiltrating these groups,” Simi said. It’s highly likely that federal agents are actually monitoring these forums today, several experts told me. Trump ignored the threat of domestic terrorism for much of his presidency, but federal law enforcement has cracked down on the groups somewhat in the past year. Federal agents charged several boogaloo bois last fall, and last winter agents arrested the former leader of the white-supremacist group Atomwaffen Division for planning “swat” attacks on journalists and other foes.

Social media has long empowered militias and other far-right groups, and experts told me their banishment from mainstream platforms like Facebook could impede their growth. Every time a forum gets shut down, the extremists have to find a new home, a disruptive waste of their time. “The more time that they have to spend reorganizing and recalibrating is less time that they can spend planning more concrete, dangerous activity,” Micah Clark, a Moonshot CVE program director, told me. “A lot of the far right has had free rein on the internet for years longer than they should have.” Now, he said, these groups “are freaking out, because they sense that things are changing.” Some forums urged members not to attend protests on Inauguration Day, saying it might be an opportunity for entrapment.

But even if federal-agent infiltration doesn’t lead to any arrests, it might serve another useful purpose. These extremist groups, which were already predisposed to paranoia, now have something to be paranoid about. Real or perceived glowies are putting a healthy fear into these groups, which thrive on the premise that they are on the right side of history. It’s humbling to go from being a well-regarded CEO to being judged a criminal and a terrorist.

These days, the Capitol rioters might be thinking, as Clark put it, “I have all this privilege, and I might have just thrown a lot of it away.” The white men at the apex of American society don’t fear much. But they do fear falling to the bottom.
 
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Wasn't the left sperging out about how umbrella man at the Kenosha riots was a cop that turned out to be false?

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tfw a glowie just assumed my gender

I absolutely love the idea of some fed in some office somewhere being paid to read shitposts on kiwifarms dot net. IDK how glowies work, do they have like dedicated people assigned by site, or do they only respond to tips or whatever? Does our fed get a break from us and sometimes get to scroll /pol/ or patriots.win or whatever? Or is he trapped in a sea of shitposts about fat women day in and day out?
Come on, be nice to them, they are probably an FBI agent meaning they have a graduate degree of some kind but still work for the federal government.

This usual means they have got a shitty LSAT score and went to a Tier 4 Toilet of a law school, then when searching for a job was not only rejected by every Big Law firm they applied to but was also rejected by local prosecutors / public defender's and even small firm's like Rekieta Law.

If they have a degree in accounting it probably means that they were rejected by not only the Big Four but municipal jobs as well.

Given their academic incompetence, they probably took the job with the FBI out of desperation and a hope that their federal service will pay off their student loans.

What is the Fed going to cry? Just because we realize they you are nothing more than some dumb smart person that managed to get an advanced degree from a shitty university? That you are nothing more than a nearly unemployable adult with a badge? That most on this board have more respect for beat cops than you?

Don't run to your SSA and cry. Eat your fucking gun.
 
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We really need a glow rating. Niggers be posting shit like this as if a prominent member of this forum wasn't recently got by the feds for a shitty joke he didn't think through.
The insurrection and inauguration threads are full of glowies, yet the idiots in this thread still pretend that it's only fed honeypots doing it.
 
I'M SO SCARED

Seriously though. The article op posted says it's all fake. I don't understand why everyone is so angry.
You know that Trump leaving office doesn't automatically mean that the your shit takes are any funnier or relevant, right?


God I miss Ashy and at this point even Tuscan.
 
The insurrection and inauguration threads are full of glowies, yet the idiots in this thread still pretend that it's only fed honeypots doing it.
The concept of feds keeping tabs on political online/offline extremes is not just a thing the right-wing say, its a universally understood idea that shares similar ties to things like entrapment. I do not think there is any laws against the online version of entrapment which is essentially what a glow in the dark fed is being accused of perpetrating. Hence why shows like To catch a predator existed the concept of baiting people online is not considered by most as unlawful in most places.

The problem with this is its going after people with political affiliations most of whom are most likely larping and are now getting knocks on the door by federal agents.
 
The concept of feds keeping tabs on political online/offline extremes is not just a thing the right-wing say, its a universally understood idea that shares similar ties to things like entrapment. I do not think there is any laws against the online version of entrapment which is essentially what a glow in the dark fed is being accused of perpetrating. Hence why shows like To catch a predator existed the concept of baiting people online is not considered by most as unlawful in most places.

The problem with this is its going after people with political affiliations most of whom are most likely larping and are now getting knocks on the door by federal agents.
They have to take that shit seriously, especially after what happened at the capitol. If they don't take it seriously and something does happen, that's far worse than taking it seriously and nothing would happen
 
They have to take that shit seriously, especially after what happened at the capitol. If they don't take it seriously and something does happen, that's far worse than taking it seriously and nothing would happen
I do not think having secret police knocking on your door is something most people signed up for especially in countries like the USA. 99.9% of it is not serious so we need an entire surveillance state for 0.1 percent of people doesn't seem right to me in a society that describes itself as a place that openly facilitates freedom of speech and expression.
 
I do not think having secret police knocking on your door is something most people signed up for especially in countries like the USA. 99.9% of it is not serious so we need an entire surveillance state for 0.1 percent of people doesn't seem right to me in a society that describes itself as a place that openly facilitates freedom of speech and expression.
Why is that? Direct threats of violence are not protected under the first amendment
 
Why is that? Direct threats of violence are not protected under the first amendment
Look I do not want a surveillance state because people say dumb shit online, I do not want MAGA people or Antifa people to get knocks on their door for talking about violent revolutions. What I do want to see is if they actually show up and start breaking the law in person for them to be charged, I am not digging this minority report vibe that seems to be becoming more acceptable.
 
Look I do not want a surveillance state because people say dumb shit online, I do not want MAGA people or Antifa people to get knocks on their door for talking about violent revolutions. What I do want to see is if they actually show up and start breaking the law in person for them to be charged, I am not digging this minority report vibe that seems to be becoming more acceptable.
Why are you lowering yourself by responding? He is just trying to rules lawyer you with shit you never said in a feeble-as-usual attempt to, uh, own the cons I guess.
 
Why are you lowering yourself by responding? He is just trying to rules lawyer you with shit you never said in a feeble-as-usual attempt to, uh, own the cons I guess.
I am just saying that whining about free speech online when what is being said is not protected by the first amendment is retarded, but I am not surprised that you can't see this
 
It's not a conspiracy theory. Us on the left have dealt with Feds infiltrating our movements, from small 5 people reading groups to larger organisations like Occupy since the 1920s. Leftist historians like Caleb Maupin basically argue that the entire US Left today, is essentially a construction of the CIA and FBI which created the "modern left" out of the Congress of Cultural Freedom. I have friends in XR and they know for a fact that Feds have infiltrated the higher levels of the movement. I've literally been told from someone very much in the know and in the job to be in the know, that Anarchists, where the no.2 target of the FBI after Islamists and this was only around 2012-ish. Many of us have also been very suspicious of the Anarchist movement since Occupy with how they seem to come in, push the most retarded shit that can easily be hijacked to serve some Neoliberal goal, while wrecking absolutely everything. The Charnel House has some great on the ground accounts of how Anarchists came into Occupy and literally purged the Unions and Socialists out of it (Along with basically any White males that wouldn't self flagellate themselves over woke shit). Then Anarchists once in control, changed the demands of Occupy to get this:
• Create an economy in harmony with nature — by
• Researching, developing and implementing economic models that pursue thriving, abundant and prosperous outcomes for humanity and life — growing beyond the dichotomy of unsustainable and sustainable development. These economic models must be based on sound ethical assumptions and observed individual and market behavior through behavioral economics and econometrics
• Implementing and improving community currencies, barter, sharing, and trade systems
• Building the support and precedence for local and large scale production of renewable energy and food resources
• Eliminating financial/resource speculation that supports the current economy at the expense of future generations
• Learning from and empowering indigenous people in the transition to an economy in harmony with nature — as we
• Make NYC a pioneer of urban farming, renewable energy, grass roots urban/rural exchange, quantitative economic policy and indigenous leadership

Not a single mention of wages, jobs, housing, evictions, anything.

So if the right are worried about people who glow, they should be, because their movement is glowing brighter than the Sun after the shit they pulled on Capitol Hill and the Feds have had pretty much 100 years experience of wrecking and controlling political movements with the left.
 
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