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Anyone else absolutely hate telea health or is it just me? don't get me wrong it's very convenient if all you need to do is fill a script but for everything else it's a pain in the ass.
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Agree. Last year had a dermatology visit coming up. They called and said it would be telemedicine. Uh, no...doctor needs to see this since she said it was pre-cancerous. "You can take a picture." Fuck that, twat. Found a dermatologist who'd see me and knew his shit on top of it. My shit doesn't easily lend itself to telemedicine, especially in the seventh decade of life.
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Books are easier to keep around for centuries and easier to censor, and guess who gets all the book deals these days? There will be a lot of books spouting The Narrative. Like expect textbooks (which are mass-printed) to have a long description of how Trump fucked up the COVID-19 response and killed 400K people right before the page where there's a picture of QShaman Jake Angeli in the Capitol and the description of how Joe Biden and Kamala Harris saved America.
Therefore, almost all of our sources will reflect The Narrative much as how a lot of sources on Ancient Rome come from politically powerful people who had reasons to hate emperors like Domitian. It took almost 2,000 years before historians went through the evidence and concluded that even though Domitian was an asshole, so were his opponents and he was actually a pretty efficient and effective ruler. Or entire cultures, like for centuries Native Americans were considered stupid and cowardly but then when people did some research on their cultures and oral histories and correlated it with reports it was because they were treating whites like they'd treat any other tribe (not smart but we'd probably deal with aliens like we'd deal with any other human) and a lot of times they'd retreat or hide from battle was actually very good strategy based on their resources.
One-sided histories lead to a lot of misconceptions, and being the subject of one as one of the "obsolete anti-science wasteland ghouls holding back the Superior Future" would be pretty shit.
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Whoever knew the Dutch had it in them?
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Why can't stupid Americans just accept lockdowns like Europeans? Look, they're already having holidays again because they trusted the science!
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Remember this Biogen biostatistician that flew back to China from LA after being diagnosed with the coof, back in March because she was scared? One might say she had forethought, if we look at the numbers now.
Basically, one year behind bars and another to be a good boi. She got 60 other people quarantined due to close contact.
原標題：黎潔妨害傳染病防治案一審判決書：獲有期徒刑一年，緩刑一年
北京法院審判信息網近日公佈「黎潔妨害傳染病防治一審刑事判決書」。全文：
北京市順義區人民法院
刑事判決書
（2020）京0113刑初534號
公訴機關北京市順義區人民檢察院。
被告人黎潔，女，1982年5月12日出生於四川省瀘州市，公民身份號碼×××，漢族，博士研究生文化，原系美國百健生物製藥公司員工，戶籍所在地四川省瀘州市納溪區，案發前住美國馬薩諸塞州。因涉嫌犯妨害傳染病防治罪，於2020年5月20日被指定居所監視居住，於2020年6月1日被批准逮捕（未執行），同日被指定居所監視居住。
辯護人盛沖，北京盛沖律師事務所律師。
北京市順義區人民檢察院以京順檢一部刑訴〔2020〕508號起訴書、京順檢一部量建調〔2020〕36號量刑建議調整書指控被告人黎潔犯妨害傳染病防治罪，於2020年8月6日向本院提起公訴並建議適用簡易程序審理。經北京市高級人民法院指定管轄，本院於2020年8月13日立案受理。因案情複雜，本院依法轉為普通程序並組成合議庭。庭審前，本院於2020年10月13日召集控辯雙方召開了庭前會議，就本案的管轄、迴避等程序性問題聽取意見並就擬當庭出示的證據進行了開示。本院於2020年10月15日公開開庭審理了本案。北京市順義區人民檢察院指派檢察官楊珺出庭支持公訴。被告人黎潔及其辯護人盛衝到庭參加訴訟。本案現已審理終結。
北京市順義區人民檢察院指控：
被告人黎潔與家人長期在美國工作生活。2020年3月初，黎潔出現發熱、身體乏力等癥狀，多次到當地醫院就診未見好轉。期間，黎潔的同事被確診為新型冠狀病毒肺炎。3月11日（以下均為當地時間），黎潔再次就醫時，醫院對其進行了新型冠狀病毒核酸檢測。在檢測結果未出時，黎潔決定回國治療。后黎潔及家人從美國波士頓乘飛機經洛杉磯中轉，乘坐國航CA988號航班回國。為順利登機，黎潔在登機前服用退燒藥降低體溫，通過體溫檢測。登機后，在航班要求旅客主動申報發熱等不適癥狀時，黎潔未申報，未如實回答機組人員關於疫情防控的相關詢問。3月13日，黎潔及家人抵達北京首都機場。黎潔於當日被確診為新型冠狀病毒肺炎，其密切接觸者63人被採取隔離措施。
公訴機關認為被告人黎潔的行為構成妨害傳染病防治罪，因具有到案后如實供述犯罪事實、認罪認罰的從寬情節，建議判處被告人黎潔有期徒刑一年，可適用緩刑。
被告人黎潔對指控事實、罪名及量刑建議沒有異議，認罪認罰且簽字具結，在開庭審理過程中亦無異議。
辯護人對指控事實、罪名無異議，辯護意見為：被告人黎潔主動如實填寫健康申明卡、主動和機組人員陳述自己情況，根據《關於處理自首和立功具體應用法律若干問題的解釋》第一條的規定，構成自首；其系初犯、偶犯，如實供述犯罪事實，認罪悔罪，故建議對其判處有期徒刑一年緩刑一年。
經審理查明：
被告人黎潔與家人長期在美國工作生活。2020年3月初（以下均為當地時間），黎潔出現發熱、身體乏力等癥狀，多次到當地醫院就診未見好轉。3月11日，黎潔再次就醫時，醫院對其進行了新型冠狀病毒核酸檢測。在檢測結果未出時，黎潔決定回國。當日，黎潔及家人從美國波士頓乘飛機經洛杉磯中轉，乘坐國航CA988號航班回國。為順利登機，黎潔在登機前服用退燒藥降低體溫，通過體溫檢測。登機后，在航班要求乘客主動申報發熱等不適癥狀時，黎潔未申報，未如實回答機組人員關於身體情況、接觸史、同行人員等疫情防控的相關詢問。飛機降落前，黎潔如實填寫了《出/入境健康申明卡》並告知了機組人員自己的病情、就醫情況等。3月13日，黎潔及家人抵達北京首都機場，防疫部門當即將黎潔送醫治療。黎潔於當日被確診為患新型冠狀病毒肺炎，其密切接觸者63人被採取隔離措施。被告人黎潔后被查獲。
上述事實，有證人洪某、桂某、孫某、趙某、呂某、張某、車某、吳某的證言，被告人黎潔的供述，司法鑒定意見書，監控視頻，調取證據通知書、調取證據清單、扣押決定書、扣押清單、運輸航空公司疫情防控技術指南（第三版）、運輸機場疫情防控技術指南（第三版）、海關總署公告、關於做好航空口岸新冠肺炎病毒感染的肺炎疫情防控工作的通知、防控疫情廣播通知、健康申明卡模板、關於一例新冠肺炎確診病例黎潔的初步調查報告及補充調查報告、病例個案調查表、關於一例新冠肺炎確診病例洪某的初步調查報告、出/入境健康申明卡、新冠肺炎流行病學調查表、口岸傳染病可疑病例醫學排查記錄表、病歷材料、病例進展報告、密接者一覽表、在京密接情況說明、3月13日CA988航班洪某密接情況說明、北京市朝陽區衛生健康委員會關於患者黎潔流行病調查的函、傳染病報告卡、內地居民因私出境證件簽發信息、購票記錄、工作記錄、浙江省等省市疾病預防控制中心的復函、受案登記表、指定管轄決定書、立案決定書、到案經過、電話查詢記錄、人口信息證明等予以證實，足以認定。
本院認為：被告人黎潔違反傳染病防治法的規定，乘坐我國航空器從境外回國時未遵守海關、民航部門提出的預防、控制措施，謊報瞞報病情、接觸史，導致60餘人被隔離觀察，引起新型冠狀病毒傳播的嚴重危險，其行為已構成妨害傳染病防治罪，應予懲處。北京市順義區人民檢察院指控被告人黎潔犯妨害傳染病防治罪的事實清楚，證據確實、充分，罪名成立。對於辯護人所提被告人黎潔構成自首的意見，本院認為，遵守疫情防控的相關規定、如實填寫健康申明卡、配合防疫人員的工作是疫情防控這一特殊時期每位公民的應盡義務，黎潔的相關行為不能體現其主動接受法律懲處的投案意願、不屬於自動投案，故不構成自首，辯護人關於自首的意見本院不予採納。鑒於被告人黎潔到案后如實供述犯罪事實、認罪悔罪，且自願認罪認罰，辯護人相關辯護意見本院酌予採納，依法對被告人黎潔從寬處罰並適用緩刑。據此，本院依照《中華人民共和國刑法》第三百三十條第一款第（四）項、第三款，第六十七條第三款，第六十一條，第四十五條，第七十二條第一款，第七十三條第二、三款及《中華人民共和國刑事訴訟法》第十五條的規定，判決如下：
被告人黎潔犯妨害傳染病防治罪，判處有期徒刑一年緩刑一年（緩刑考驗期限，從判決確定之日起計算）。
如不服本判決，可在接到判決書的第二日起十日內，通過本院或直接向北京市第三中級人民法院提出上訴。書面上訴的，應當提交上訴狀正本一份，副本一份。
北京法院審判信息網近日公佈「黎潔妨害傳染病防治一審刑事判決書」。全文：
北京市順義區人民法院
刑事判決書
（2020）京0113刑初534號
公訴機關北京市順義區人民檢察院。
被告人黎潔，女，1982年5月12日出生於四川省瀘州市，公民身份號碼×××，漢族，博士研究生文化，原系美國百健生物製藥公司員工，戶籍所在地四川省瀘州市納溪區，案發前住美國馬薩諸塞州。因涉嫌犯妨害傳染病防治罪，於2020年5月20日被指定居所監視居住，於2020年6月1日被批准逮捕（未執行），同日被指定居所監視居住。
辯護人盛沖，北京盛沖律師事務所律師。
北京市順義區人民檢察院以京順檢一部刑訴〔2020〕508號起訴書、京順檢一部量建調〔2020〕36號量刑建議調整書指控被告人黎潔犯妨害傳染病防治罪，於2020年8月6日向本院提起公訴並建議適用簡易程序審理。經北京市高級人民法院指定管轄，本院於2020年8月13日立案受理。因案情複雜，本院依法轉為普通程序並組成合議庭。庭審前，本院於2020年10月13日召集控辯雙方召開了庭前會議，就本案的管轄、迴避等程序性問題聽取意見並就擬當庭出示的證據進行了開示。本院於2020年10月15日公開開庭審理了本案。北京市順義區人民檢察院指派檢察官楊珺出庭支持公訴。被告人黎潔及其辯護人盛衝到庭參加訴訟。本案現已審理終結。
北京市順義區人民檢察院指控：
被告人黎潔與家人長期在美國工作生活。2020年3月初，黎潔出現發熱、身體乏力等癥狀，多次到當地醫院就診未見好轉。期間，黎潔的同事被確診為新型冠狀病毒肺炎。3月11日（以下均為當地時間），黎潔再次就醫時，醫院對其進行了新型冠狀病毒核酸檢測。在檢測結果未出時，黎潔決定回國治療。后黎潔及家人從美國波士頓乘飛機經洛杉磯中轉，乘坐國航CA988號航班回國。為順利登機，黎潔在登機前服用退燒藥降低體溫，通過體溫檢測。登機后，在航班要求旅客主動申報發熱等不適癥狀時，黎潔未申報，未如實回答機組人員關於疫情防控的相關詢問。3月13日，黎潔及家人抵達北京首都機場。黎潔於當日被確診為新型冠狀病毒肺炎，其密切接觸者63人被採取隔離措施。
公訴機關認為被告人黎潔的行為構成妨害傳染病防治罪，因具有到案后如實供述犯罪事實、認罪認罰的從寬情節，建議判處被告人黎潔有期徒刑一年，可適用緩刑。
被告人黎潔對指控事實、罪名及量刑建議沒有異議，認罪認罰且簽字具結，在開庭審理過程中亦無異議。
辯護人對指控事實、罪名無異議，辯護意見為：被告人黎潔主動如實填寫健康申明卡、主動和機組人員陳述自己情況，根據《關於處理自首和立功具體應用法律若干問題的解釋》第一條的規定，構成自首；其系初犯、偶犯，如實供述犯罪事實，認罪悔罪，故建議對其判處有期徒刑一年緩刑一年。
經審理查明：
被告人黎潔與家人長期在美國工作生活。2020年3月初（以下均為當地時間），黎潔出現發熱、身體乏力等癥狀，多次到當地醫院就診未見好轉。3月11日，黎潔再次就醫時，醫院對其進行了新型冠狀病毒核酸檢測。在檢測結果未出時，黎潔決定回國。當日，黎潔及家人從美國波士頓乘飛機經洛杉磯中轉，乘坐國航CA988號航班回國。為順利登機，黎潔在登機前服用退燒藥降低體溫，通過體溫檢測。登機后，在航班要求乘客主動申報發熱等不適癥狀時，黎潔未申報，未如實回答機組人員關於身體情況、接觸史、同行人員等疫情防控的相關詢問。飛機降落前，黎潔如實填寫了《出/入境健康申明卡》並告知了機組人員自己的病情、就醫情況等。3月13日，黎潔及家人抵達北京首都機場，防疫部門當即將黎潔送醫治療。黎潔於當日被確診為患新型冠狀病毒肺炎，其密切接觸者63人被採取隔離措施。被告人黎潔后被查獲。
上述事實，有證人洪某、桂某、孫某、趙某、呂某、張某、車某、吳某的證言，被告人黎潔的供述，司法鑒定意見書，監控視頻，調取證據通知書、調取證據清單、扣押決定書、扣押清單、運輸航空公司疫情防控技術指南（第三版）、運輸機場疫情防控技術指南（第三版）、海關總署公告、關於做好航空口岸新冠肺炎病毒感染的肺炎疫情防控工作的通知、防控疫情廣播通知、健康申明卡模板、關於一例新冠肺炎確診病例黎潔的初步調查報告及補充調查報告、病例個案調查表、關於一例新冠肺炎確診病例洪某的初步調查報告、出/入境健康申明卡、新冠肺炎流行病學調查表、口岸傳染病可疑病例醫學排查記錄表、病歷材料、病例進展報告、密接者一覽表、在京密接情況說明、3月13日CA988航班洪某密接情況說明、北京市朝陽區衛生健康委員會關於患者黎潔流行病調查的函、傳染病報告卡、內地居民因私出境證件簽發信息、購票記錄、工作記錄、浙江省等省市疾病預防控制中心的復函、受案登記表、指定管轄決定書、立案決定書、到案經過、電話查詢記錄、人口信息證明等予以證實，足以認定。
本院認為：被告人黎潔違反傳染病防治法的規定，乘坐我國航空器從境外回國時未遵守海關、民航部門提出的預防、控制措施，謊報瞞報病情、接觸史，導致60餘人被隔離觀察，引起新型冠狀病毒傳播的嚴重危險，其行為已構成妨害傳染病防治罪，應予懲處。北京市順義區人民檢察院指控被告人黎潔犯妨害傳染病防治罪的事實清楚，證據確實、充分，罪名成立。對於辯護人所提被告人黎潔構成自首的意見，本院認為，遵守疫情防控的相關規定、如實填寫健康申明卡、配合防疫人員的工作是疫情防控這一特殊時期每位公民的應盡義務，黎潔的相關行為不能體現其主動接受法律懲處的投案意願、不屬於自動投案，故不構成自首，辯護人關於自首的意見本院不予採納。鑒於被告人黎潔到案后如實供述犯罪事實、認罪悔罪，且自願認罪認罰，辯護人相關辯護意見本院酌予採納，依法對被告人黎潔從寬處罰並適用緩刑。據此，本院依照《中華人民共和國刑法》第三百三十條第一款第（四）項、第三款，第六十七條第三款，第六十一條，第四十五條，第七十二條第一款，第七十三條第二、三款及《中華人民共和國刑事訴訟法》第十五條的規定，判決如下：
被告人黎潔犯妨害傳染病防治罪，判處有期徒刑一年緩刑一年（緩刑考驗期限，從判決確定之日起計算）。
如不服本判決，可在接到判決書的第二日起十日內，通過本院或直接向北京市第三中級人民法院提出上訴。書面上訴的，應當提交上訴狀正本一份，副本一份。
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You guys. There was just a recent news report as I write this in my country that basically encouraged us to double the facemasks we're wearing.
Guess who recommended it as an "expert".
It's easy. Just fucking guess.
Guess who recommended it as an "expert".
It's easy. Just fucking guess.
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Checked up on the State Fair Park Alternate Location they prepared back in Spring and finally opened in October. They started to put up daily numbers but now it's just a total to date. Gee I wonder why.
The facility was set up to have 530 spaces but can handle 754. I don't know what that Bamlanivimab infusion is, but they still have the twice-weekly TV updates from Evers that I do not watch. It's always political posturing and dissing Repubs before getting to the meat of the matter, which is always just another iteration of MASK UP MILWAUKEE. The mask order and state of emergency has been extended to March 20. I'll tune in today to see what that infusion therapy is all about.
They indicate HOW it's being funded but certainly don't tell us HOW MUCH they spent for this money pit.
The facility was set up to have 530 spaces but can handle 754. I don't know what that Bamlanivimab infusion is, but they still have the twice-weekly TV updates from Evers that I do not watch. It's always political posturing and dissing Repubs before getting to the meat of the matter, which is always just another iteration of MASK UP MILWAUKEE. The mask order and state of emergency has been extended to March 20. I'll tune in today to see what that infusion therapy is all about.
They indicate HOW it's being funded but certainly don't tell us HOW MUCH they spent for this money pit.
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"Oi you cheeky cunts, where's yur looking at snow loiscences?"
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Oh right. I forgot about that.
Imagine "Heroes Wear Masks" (with Elmo in a muzzle) or "Rooted In Justice" (that Kamala Harris book) being "TRUE and HONEST" sources to historians on Current Year? I hope it can come to light - sooner or later - that the coof is really a scamdemic used as an excuse to grab power, make people Listen And Believe® in the cult of "Scientism", and push this dystopia into even more of a cyberpunk dystopia they call "Superior Future".
The censorship, the insane circus that is coronapanic and the stolen election, Biden and Harris being puppets of the elite - imagine if the truth was lost to history?
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Same thing in my province, super conveniant when you have a fearful america bulldog who mistrust stranger
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I don't think it will since just the existence of sources that are "debunking conspiracies" would show a future historian counter-narratives existed and lead them down a path to read between the lines and figure out the counter-narrative (i.e. the truth), but expect the truth to never fully be accepted by academics even at that time and basically unknown to popular culture and what passes for education in schools (unless we have all our knowledge beamed into our brains and your average kid is more well-read than an entire department of college professors).
But expect to wait centuries, if not millennia, before people stop putting you in the list of historical villains and crazies.
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Amateurish and lame.
I don't know about the Netherlands but the US clearly marks municipal gas lines and oil pipelines to prevent accidental damage. If they put a thermite charge on a gas pipe line or several they could cause a lot more havock.
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Best case scenario: The Narrative is looked at like we look at the geocentric narrative enforced by the Catholic Church during the Middle Ages, and maybe they'll even be revolutionaries who are remembered like we remember Galileo?
But yeah, it sucks how assholes in power have manipulated the average soy bugman to think of any doubt of The Narrative® as an "alt-right / GamerGate / white supremacist conspiracy theory". And how this insane overreaction to what should be a mutated cold or regular flu is a "reasonable reaction" to "airborne ebolaAIDS".
At least a "silver lining" to human extinction is this madness is forgotten.
Current Year sucks.
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TIL that like half of all houses in the US are serviced by natural gas lines.
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I have to say it was a bit surreal listening to co-workers mention that yesterday the Cali stay at home orders were up and lifted...just like that.
None of them were the least bit suspicious of this timing.
None of them were the least bit suspicious of this timing.
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Odd it's usually the tan Europeans that do most the looting rioting
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Some Latino groups more wary of Covid vaccine, so messaging needs to be tailored, experts say
Also, tailored? So it's not about the science anymore; just whatever gets you to comply?
disposable meatbag bodyguards US soldiers.
These beaners are getting uppity and thinking for themselves, time to talk to them in their subhuman language and force them to think as we want.
Also, tailored? So it's not about the science anymore; just whatever gets you to comply?
Good grief. Imagine 41 million Aryan assholes in Israel that weren't
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