Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[Syntaxion]

Either I am blind, or I'm misreading this, or this has been mentioned before (in which case, just rate me late I guess) but the original post says

Jeannette made her kid work the talk show circuit including Oprah. The big break was a 2007 interview with Barbara Walters on 20/20, where an 11 year old Jazz talked about being uncomfortable with having male genitalia on national television.

But the interview wasn't in 2007, it was in 2013 - Jazz was born in 2000, so he wasn't 11 in 2007 anyway.

Or atleast, the video was uploaded in 2013, because now I think about it, he wasn't 11 in 2013 neither, he would've been 12 or 13. So I guess the interview was from 2012?

 

[Barbarella]

That guy is right. Four year olds know nothing, and can’t articulate things either. As an example, a friend and I were discussing this, and I asked if his year old son wanted a dress when he was 2 or 3, would he buy it?

He said no, because kids don’t know why they even want things and parents can take it too far. His example-when he was a little kid he wanted a Polly Pocket really badly. Not because he wanted to play with a girls toy, but because it was a complete toy you could have in your pocket. He thought it’d be cool for boring places to have a toy you could just pull out of your pocket and play with. He figured he’d deal with the doll part. Then they came out with Mighty Max, which were mini car sets you could carry in your pocket-a Polly Pocket for boys, and he was relieved. He loved cars and that’s what he wanted.

His point is that a kid might ask for a girl thing for a benign reason, not having the skills to explain why. And some weirdo parent could jump to the reason that if he wants a girl thing it’s because he is really a girl. Better to ignore that stuff until they really understand it.

Jazz was and into mermaids. Mom instantly though of the female standard of mermaids, but Jazz was too young to articulate his fascination. Maybe he just liked the way fish moved and used their tail, exemplified by a mermaid, and without his parents turning it into little mermaid, he may have become interested in the biology of fish and studied it. Or not, maybe there is another reasons he liked mermaids, but it doesn’t mean he’s a girl.

Until he’s much, much older he should have been left alone. I am sympathetic to Jazz. I hope he goes to college and begins thinking, although Harvard probably won’t challenge his beliefs. And really, what can ge do about it niw?He was butchered and there’s no coming back.

 

[Amphitrite]

His point is that a kid might ask for a girl thing for a benign reason,

My point would be that there are no "girl things" or "boy things", they are just things.

A kid who likes things should be allowed to play with things, not told their biology is wrong and subjected to a miserable, sterile asexual future.

It's all about the stereotypes. That's what needs changing, our attitude to what kids want to wear and play with not the kids themselves.

Go on, bring on the rainbows.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Eating disorders are often conceptualized as a control issue.

"Hey mom and dad, you can pick the classes I take and the sports I play and the friends I see but you can't control the food I eat."

Jazz's binge eating seems to run along these lines. Everything in his life is shitty and stressful and housing 3,500 calories a day is both self-medicating and self-sabotaging. I feel like he could get very into weed.

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Slight change of subject, someone mentioned upthread his "fanbase" and how his siblings don't want to run afoul of the fanbase.

How much of a fanbase does he really have? For example, who watches his show? Do the troons watch it?

Maybe I'm making a wrong assumption here but there's a whole chunk of TV that seems geared towards rural 55-year-old white women without college educations. They're not woke, they're not educated about woke issues. They have the TV on to shit like "I Am Jazz" because it's low effort and they can have it on while they're doing other shit. It's the female version of "Duck Dynasty."

Like I really can't see a straight man of any race or class watching that show. The black audience is probably small. It's kind of lowbrow for the more educated crowd. Do people under 30 even watch shows on TV anymore or is everything streamed? I struggle to see actual LGB or T people getting super into it because it's kind of a depressing show.

The flying monkey troon army don't seem very capable of thinking critically about things, and it's really hard to look at Jazz these days and be like "yaaaaaas queeeen." Seems like his "fanbase" is more about corporate virtue signaling than it is about organic public interest and support.

All this is to say that if one of the siblings did wander off the rez, I wonder who would be there to heap calumny upon them.

 

[Letora]

Eating disorders are often conceptualized as a control issue.

"Hey mom and dad, you can pick the classes I take and the sports I play and the friends I see but you can't control the food I eat."

Jazz's binge eating seems to run along these lines. Everything in his life is shitty and stressful and housing 3,500 calories a day is both self-medicating and self-sabotaging. I feel like he could get very into weed.

Eating disorders do indeed deal with control, but in slightly different ways. Anorexia tends to be an illness of more well-off females, whose parents are demanding and perfectionistic. Bulimia and Binge Eating Disorder are illnesses that affect people in unstable homes with abuse and significant ups and downs; a lack of stability. It's quite telling which disorder Jaron gravitated to.

Slight change of subject, someone mentioned upthread his "fanbase" and how his siblings don't want to run afoul of the fanbase.

How much of a fanbase does he really have? For example, who watches his show? Do the troons watch it?

The thing is, even if his fanbase isn't huge, the way the jackals in the media are, Jaron's siblings would be dragged through the mud for ever voicing anything against what happened to him. "Here's why Jazz's sibling is transphobic!", "Jazz's sibling is damaging the vulnerable trans community", "Why Jazz's sibling is TERF scum".

Twitter would also have a field day, leading to Jaron's siblings probably being harassed, stalked and receiving death threats from mentally ill lunatics who have no life or career except doxxing and hurting people who don't agree with them, online.

Getting picked up by rabid extreme-left journalists is extremely unpleasant and damaging, especially if anyone ever searches for your name in search engines. Anyone would want to avoid that.

 

[High Tea]

Slight change of subject, someone mentioned upthread his "fanbase" and how his siblings don't want to run afoul of the fanbase.

How much of a fanbase does he really have? For example, who watches his show? Do the troons watch it?

Maybe I'm making a wrong assumption here but there's a whole chunk of TV that seems geared towards rural 55-year-old white women without college educations. They're not woke, they're not educated about woke issues. They have the TV on to shit like "I Am Jazz" because it's low effort and they can have it on while they're doing other shit. It's the female version of "Duck Dynasty."

Like I really can't see a straight man of any race or class watching that show. The black audience is probably small. It's kind of lowbrow for the more educated crowd. Do people under 30 even watch shows on TV anymore or is everything streamed? I struggle to see actual LGB or T people getting super into it because it's kind of a depressing show.

The flying monkey troon army don't seem very capable of thinking critically about things, and it's really hard to look at Jazz these days and be like "yaaaaaas queeeen." Seems like his "fanbase" is more about corporate virtue signaling than it is about organic public interest and support.

All this is to say that if one of the siblings did wander off the rez, I wonder who would be there to heap calumny upon them.

The people I know of who watch it seem to be suburban white women who want to be seen as woke, wine aunts who would watch Sex and the City or Real Housewives or the Bachelor. It's almost like they are transferring their motherly instinct to this person so they become invested in wanting to see them grow up and be happy. They need it to succeed because they see themselves through the mother's eyes and Jazz as their kid. I'm sure there are different fanbases, but the people I know who watch it, it's like you are personally insulting them by questioning what happens to Jazz.

 

[flight of ideas]

It's almost like they are transferring their motherly instinct to this person so they become invested in wanting to see them grow up and be happy. They need it to succeed because they see themselves through the mother's eyes and Jazz as their kid.

I’ve noticed this also and find this is often the case with women whose own experiences of parenting have left them unsatisfied for some reason (e.g., did not bring themselves enough attention) or whose own children have already grown up and left the family home.

I think there may be a lot to said about the parasocial relationships older women have with famous young people/children, especially in the absence of such relationships being available to them in their own lives.

 

[Bakarina]

Post partum psychosis (depression, euphoria, etc) can last more than just the first few months of your child's life. I have known someone who dealt with extreme PPD for years after she had her kid. Some days were better than others but those others felt like she took a dive off a cliff into shark infested waters but she had her system and her support system was healthy and strong and helped her overcome the worse of it when intervention was necessary. PPD is scary, especially when you don't know you're suffering from it until it gets thrown in your face and are forced to acknowledge it or when you reflect back to certain stages of your newborns life and come to the realization that you had a textbook perfect example of what was really going on. I think that Jeanette at the beginning didn't want to admit to herself that she developed PPD because it seems like she didn't with her other pregnancies, only this last one so I can see how she wouldn't want to accept the fact that everything wasn't actually okay but that's assuming that Jeanette was relatively sane before all of this shit.


People have been trying to predict unborn children's gender for centuries from dreams, the health of the mother and various cravings (sweet things for a girl, salty things for a boy) to voodoo necklace pendulums and how the baby is carried. Hell, ultrasound techs sometimes get it wrong (mistake twin girls for a large baby boy is something I've heard more than once). Only way to truly know is if you do a chromosome test early on (which might be dangerous, can't remember) or wait until the kid is born.

This entire thing is just sad. But I think a lot of family bloggers are sad in the same way. I don't see how parading children around a camera day in and day out leads to a healthy life.

 

[High Tea]

This entire thing is just sad. But I think a lot of family bloggers are sad in the same way. I don't see how parading children around a camera day in and day out leads to a healthy life.

Don't think it's so much about being healthy, it's about attention and praise they feel are lacking in their life. If you are happy at home, why is it necessary to tell strangers about how you raise your children unless you need the adulation? Sure, it's nice to help people if you think you have the answers, but when you make it your profession or film it, I think you are looking for something for yourself - with little regard to the long term effects to your family, or if they even want to participate.

 

[Bakarina]

Don't think it's so much about being healthy, it's about attention and praise they feel are lacking in their life. If you are happy at home, why is it necessary to tell strangers about how you raise your children unless you need the adulation? Sure, it's nice to help people if you think you have the answers, but when you make it your profession or film it, I think you are looking for something for yourself - with little regard to the long term effects to your family, or if they even want to participate.

Most people who rear children find a support group in their area if they want and/or need a bit of help/advice. Or call members of their family to ask certain questions (which can be a double edged sword for most). Filming it and putting on a freakshow circus to entertain the masses with no care for the well being of your children or other members of the family is disheartening at best.

 

[rigors]

I remember as a child thinking I hope my mum puts my hair in a ponytail for school today so I can be a boy. I didn't actually want to be a boy, it was just easier to play sports and run around with my hair tied up. Thank the Lord I'm not a child in current year and expressing this, I'd be fucked (if my parents bought into the tranny hype, which they don't).

On topic: I saw this tiktok and Jesus, I know it's a tiktok trend but listen to the part Jazz mimes. It couldn't be more true. Link because I don't know how to save it.

 

[NoReturn]

I remember as a child thinking I hope my mum puts my hair in a ponytail for school today so I can be a boy. I didn't actually want to be a boy, it was just easier to play sports and run around with my hair tied up. Thank the Lord I'm not a child in current year and expressing this, I'd be fucked (if my parents bought into the tranny hype, which they don't).

On topic: I saw this tiktok and Jesus, I know it's a tiktok trend but listen to the part Jazz mimes. It couldn't be more true. Link because I don't know how to save it.

That was so cringy it caused me physical pain but god damn if you weren't right about that lip syncing bit.

 

[Valentine]

I remember as a child thinking I hope my mum puts my hair in a ponytail for school today so I can be a boy. I didn't actually want to be a boy, it was just easier to play sports and run around with my hair tied up. Thank the Lord I'm not a child in current year and expressing this, I'd be fucked (if my parents bought into the tranny hype, which they don't).

On topic: I saw this tiktok and Jesus, I know it's a tiktok trend but listen to the part Jazz mimes. It couldn't be more true. Link because I don't know how to save it.

Even if this was a teenager, I still don't think it would be a good idea to medically transition, let alone a child who can't think rationally. I thought I wanted to be a man when I was a preteen because I thought it would be more convenient. I grew out of it pretty soon and would've been scarred for life if my parents took it and ran to get me slapped with hormones. I understand transition as an adult when you've thought about it long but I really wish their community in general would take the fact that their brains are still developing until mid 20s seriously.

 

[Letora]

On topic: I saw this tiktok and Jesus, I know it's a tiktok trend but listen to the part Jazz mimes. It couldn't be more true. Link because I don't know how to save it.

I watched that TikTok. Jesus Christ, Jaron is fat. It went from lean woman, two fit dudes, and then I audibly gasped at Jaron's appearance. Look at what his fucking parents have done to him. You can tell he's not okay.

It must be so incredibly uncomfortable being in such a large body with damaged, scarred, badly-healed, incontinent genitalia on top of it. Urgh. No wonder he keeps binge-eating. I honestly think he's gonna 41% at some point. I can't see how you recover from that.

 

[Bakarina]

Even if this was a teenager, I still don't think it would be a good idea to medically transition, let alone a child who can't think rationally. I thought I wanted to be a man when I was a preteen because I thought it would be more convenient. I grew out of it pretty soon and would've been scarred for life if my parents took it and ran to get me slapped with hormones. I understand transition as an adult when you've thought about it long but I really wish their community in general would take the fact that their brains are still developing until mid 20s seriously.

I question transitioning the young, the mentally ill, and basically anyone that can't consent to various other procedures but various people are pushing for this exactly.

An individual I used to know had MPD (or is it called DID now? Idk). It was, knowing the history of this person's childhood, a legitimate diagnosis. Anyway they trooned out and their woke therapist signed off on the transition while the father (caregiver) wanted to know if this was legitimately what his kid wanted or was this one of the other personalities taking over and the therapist just feeding into it. He never got answers but I lost contact with the individual as this was quite a while. To be honest, I hope this person is okay but I have no way of really knowing.

 

[rigors]

I watched that TikTok. Jesus Christ, Jaron is fat. It went from lean woman, two fit dudes, and then I audibly gasped at Jaron's appearance. Look at what his fucking parents have done to him. You can tell he's not okay.

It must be so incredibly uncomfortable being in such a large body with damaged, scarred, badly-healed, incontinent genitalia on top of it. Urgh. No wonder he keeps binge-eating. I honestly think he's gonna 41% at some point. I can't see how you recover from that.

The weight looks worse on him than it would on a true and honest woman because he doesn't have the female bone structure or fat deposit areas that create a curvy figure over a pot bellied moob having man. He is built like Chris with a prepubescent boys face and long hair.

 

[Balthier]

I watched that TikTok. Jesus Christ, Jaron is fat. It went from lean woman, two fit dudes, and then I audibly gasped at Jaron's appearance. Look at what his fucking parents have done to him. You can tell he's not okay.

It must be so incredibly uncomfortable being in such a large body with damaged, scarred, badly-healed, incontinent genitalia on top of it. Urgh. No wonder he keeps binge-eating. I honestly think he's gonna 41% at some point. I can't see how you recover from that.

Eating is probably the only thing that gives him physical comfort/pleasure. I'm (morbidly) curious about how much his frankengina affects his mobility. It's likely painful to try to exercise because of the strain (and sweat ). Being fat on top of that has to make it all worse. If he doesn't lose weight I genuinely predict him becoming a 41%er too. He has no way to feel good physically (not to mention mentally) and I would imagine it's hard to motivate yourself to change your habits/lose weight if you know you'll still always have your fucked up genitals. Genuinely depressing. His parents are directly responsible if he commits suicide.

 

[Bakarina]

Eating is probably the only thing that gives him physical comfort/pleasure. I'm (morbidly) curious about how much his frankengina affects his mobility. It's likely painful to try to exercise because of the strain (and sweat ). Being fat on top of that has to make it all worse. If he doesn't lose weight I genuinely predict him becoming a 41%er too. He has no way to feel good physically (not to mention mentally) and I would imagine it's hard to motivate yourself to change your habits/lose weight if you know you'll still always have your fucked up genitals. Genuinely depressing. His parents are directly responsible if he commits suicide.

It probably would have been better just to leave to micro peen alone (and, you know, not put a child on hormones and make him think he wanted to be a girl from a young age).

The frankengina probably makes regular daily life difficult. All of this, just because mommy wanted a daughter and not a son that she got. It's just sad

 

[NerdShamer]

It probably would have been better just to leave to micro peen alone (and, you know, not put a child on hormones and make him think he wanted to be a girl from a young age).

The frankengina probably makes regular daily life difficult. All of this, just because mommy wanted a daughter and not a son that she got. It's just sad

Using an random Reddit comment as an example, you're looking at an significant loss of lower body strength after SRS. In layman's terms: Say goodbye to bending over and heavy lifting after being bedridden for a few weeks.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Using an random Reddit comment as an example, you're looking at an significant loss of lower body strength after SRS. In layman's terms: Say goodbye to bending over and heavy lifting after being bedridden for a few weeks.

The OP of that thread needs to die in a grease fire in Minecraft. If the wife did it in Minecraft, no jury in Minecraft would ever convict.

It's interesting and retrospectively obvious that although real women have most of their body strength in the legs and ass* which enables them to quickly recover from pushing a watermelon through a kumquat-sized hole, troons wouldn't have the skeleton or musculature to support a mobile recovery from that kind of trauma.

I wonder if part of why troons get so blobby is that there's an effort to build T&A at the expense of literally everything else.

*see the collected works of R. Crumb for examples