🐱 Activists are hounding women out of public life

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The New Year Honours list included an OBE for Kathleen Stock, a professor of philosophy at the University of Sussex. Recognised for her services to universities and the higher education sector, Stock’s achievement was something that should have been celebrated by fellow academics. Instead, hundreds of her peers wrote an open letter denouncing her and many activists began to harass her. Why? Because Stock believes that people cannot change their sex.

This might sound like just another row between academics that has no relevance to the outside world. But it is emblematic of a much wider – and more sinister – phenomenon: the hounding of women who dare speak out on trans rights. Across our public institutions women are being harassed and, in some instances, fired for not adhering to the new gender identity orthodoxy.


It is possible that you may have heard Stock’s name mentioned alongside other female professors like Selina Todd and Alice Sullivan for the simple reason that they have appeared in the press following spats about being ‘cancelled’ or ‘de-platformed’. Their opponents often cynically point to the media’s interest in these cases – even to articles such as this one – as evidence that feminist academics aren’t really being cancelled. After all, how can you cancel someone when they are being openly defended in a national newspaper? But this is a deliberate distortion tactic, used to downplay the seriousness of what is going on.

The treatment of these women is merely a high-profile symptom of a larger social affliction. Women like Stock, Todd and Sullivan have, in the past, been forced to have security guards accompany them when speaking in public – and they’re the lucky ones. For there are countless young, often working-class women and women of colour, that do not have a public profile, who have lost jobs, been bullied and labelled bigots and transphobes.

This debate has become so toxic that across the board people are afraid to speak out for fear of losing their jobs, whether they are nurses, midwives, teachers, public sector workers or civil servants. The situation has become so extreme, in fact, that even staff in the Gender Identity Development Service may have felt unable to speak out for fear of being disciplined, as David Bell told Channel 4 last week

Before the ideology of trans activists took hold in elite universities, many turned a blind eye because they tended not to care about grassroots feminists being targeted. Some initially went along with the notion that those accused were anti-trans but defended our right to speak. Others, particularly in Gender Studies departments, took a different approach, labelling feminist activists and campaigners ‘transphobic’. But look where this has got us – women are now afraid to speak for fear of being attacked, harassed, hounded, and fired.



We need to think about the world that this approach has led to. Isn’t now the time to speak out?

It is worth remembering that there are two issues at play here: the first is narrower, the question of what a ‘woman’ is. Then there is the broader issue: should you be allowed to question what a woman is at all? You don’t need to have a view on the former to recognise the dangers of clamping down on the latter. If you believe in liberal democracy, you believe in free speech.

The law does not afford an absolute right to free speech. There are, clearly, legitimate boundaries. It’s why, under international human rights law, Germany can ban the sale of Nazi propaganda and memorabilia, and why incitement of racial or religious hate is a crime in this country. But telling women that they cannot talk about their sex-based rights is not about protecting others from harm – it is about silencing women. Telling a group that has been subjugated throughout history that they cannot talk is an oppressive tactic.

What has happened in academia and to grassroots feminists over the past ten years might seem irrelevant to you but, make no mistake, it is now bleeding into wider society. University students who have been steeped in this ideology have graduated and gone on to take positions in journalism, hospitals, schools, publishing houses, the civil service, and many institutions that make up our liberal democracy.

As they rise up the ranks in their professions, they take with them the gender identity orthodoxy prevalent in higher education. Often this orthodoxy is not about an ideological position, but about silencing anyone who holds a different view. They are the people who cancel book contracts, who sack the ‘wrong’ kind of feminists, and write the policies that then perpetuates the culture of silencing.

It is not only the policies of institutions that need addressing. This culture – that tells us that questions cannot be asked, and that certain positions cannot be discussed without causing ‘harm’ – means that students only hear one side of the debate. That is surely the definition of indoctrination – and indoctrination must always be challenged.

You might not think it, but you too have a duty to ask questions – to challenge the increasingly unchallengeable – because it won’t be long before they eventually come for you.
 
Yeah but I'm not seeing calls for Gay men to embrace pussy. That they're wrong for wanting their partners to have dicks. Is that an issue in the gay community or just lesbians?
It's definitely something that happens, but at the end of the day it's always been much harder to get men to fuck someone they don't want to than women. Also since men in general seem to be more comfortable establishing what they're into and then pursuing it, when it comes to gay men you'd end up with a lot of social pressure to be pro-trans but no need to follow through. Because while lesbians have a bunch of men demanding they take the girl-dick because they really mean 'take MY girl-dick', gay men might have a bunch of other gay men or MtFs saying they need to fuck a vagina, but it's not about their sexual needs so they have a lot less invested in the outcome.

Tl;dr: Yes, but since the pressure is either coming from FtMs who are small and socialised female, or men who aren't the ones trying to get their dick wet, it's at a much lower level.
 
The big question is: who has to push back? I've said before, right now, women, especially lesbians, are the most affected. And you have had you Maggie Berns (RIP) and JK Rowlings who talk against this at a great personal risk. When should we step up, as men, slap these fools and tell them to stop being creeps? Destroying womens sports, destroying womens safe spaces, destroying the bodies of confused young people... it is already gone too far. But honestly, its kindda hard to speak against this without getting cancelled and ruined. We need a massive push against, not trans people, but their enablers, the medical complex that has feed these guys fantasies and depression and turns it into an industry.
Even if you dont care about women, you run the risk that eventually, not taking it in the ass from a dude in a wig turns you into a facist that needs to be canceled.
I’ll fight against trannies when women ditch feminism, toxic femininity, and fight with me to reverse the anti-male laws and quotas that are on the law books. Until then it’s just chickens coming home to roost.
 
The total destruction of women's spaces has been a fascinating experience. Women's bathrooms, women's sports, clothing stores, etc, there's now at least one man in every single part of them. The most anti-feminist movement in history is lauded as feminism or at least feminism-adjacent.
If there are old MEN posturing as older women, I may just throw up.
 
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By far the funniest thing about trannies is that while they can crow all they want about whatever manner of thing they are pretending to be at that second, the fact that their cause has any traction at any level reveals the eternally unchangeable fact that they are primarily white males.
Oh right, because no culture-changing movements have ever been accomplished by anyone who wasn’t white and male.

Nah, Prohibition wasn’t enacted by 1900s-era Karens decreeing that ‘lips that touch liquor shall never touch ours!’ They weren’t at all related to the Temperance movements of the 19th century, where the moms of Prohibition’s Karens worked with churches to cut men who liked to drink off from sex.

The Suffragettes weren’t a bunch of militant self-absorbed racist cunts throwing tantrums until the men in government let them vote without subjecting them to the draft, and (at least in the US) allowing the bitches to jump the line in front freed slaves and their children who were being actively fucked over by Jim Crow laws.

And of course, who can forget the laughable failure of Martin Luther King, Jr.? The man’s efforts to generate social pressure to end Jim Crow and segregation didn’t do shit.

TL;DR - Motherfucker, it’s almost like you don’t know shit.
 
Oh right, because no culture-changing movements have ever been accomplished by anyone who wasn’t white and male.

Nah, Prohibition wasn’t enacted by 1900s-era Karens decreeing that ‘lips that touch liquor shall never touch ours!’ They weren’t at all related to the Temperance movements of the 19th century, where the moms of Prohibition’s Karens worked with churches to cut men who liked to drink off from sex.

The Suffragettes weren’t a bunch of militant self-absorbed racist cunts throwing tantrums until the men in government let them vote without subjecting them to the draft, and (at least in the US) allowing the bitches to jump the line in front freed slaves and their children who were being actively fucked over by Jim Crow laws.

And of course, who can forget the laughable failure of Martin Luther King, Jr.? The man’s efforts to generate social pressure to end Jim Crow and segregation didn’t do shit.

TL;DR - Motherfucker, it’s almost like you don’t know shit.
lol mad
 
By far the funniest thing about trannies is that while they can crow all they want about whatever manner of thing they are pretending to be at that second, the fact that their cause has any traction at any level reveals the eternally unchangeable fact that they are primarily white males.

Their arguments against autogynophilia always make me laugh. My favorite one is the "gender-fluid" one they use to explain away troons that only get in drag when they're horny.
 
Their arguments against autogynophilia always make me laugh. My favorite one is the "gender-fluid" one they use to explain away troons that only get in drag when they're horny.

I know someone who is non-binary and as far as I can tell, he just likes being gay on the side. Posts the odd picture at parties in leather underwear with eye makeup and glitter on. I suspect they are the type of person who would discuss me as a toxic male. Despite the fact, he's someone that would cheat on female partners, including a now ex-wife with men and woman.

In a non-shocking coincidence, they used to be goth when that was still a thing.
 
At any point of party control, especially in political machines, you need thugs. Now, in some cases they may be quite literal. Tammany Hall had people go to Irish bars and beat drunks with irons to force them to the voting booth. Back then, the 'ideology' part was held by 'respectable' people.

In modern political machines, activists serve as the same thugs. There are still the violent, somewhat uncontrollably criminal thugs (ANTIFA) who typically get crushed when their usefulness ends. The second, more common type of thug is the modern 'activist'. They're not designed to change things for the party. They are there to instill fear and enforce loyalty. This works primarily on members of the party. You don't see these activist types gunning for hard targets, they gun for the soft ones in their own party to keep them loyal. In terms like these where they're forcing 'women' out instead of trans, troons are easily lead sheep, mentally ill men who care more about pronouns than the ravages of hormones they take. Questioning doesn't lead to anything good, so these thugs intimidate, harass and verbally assault these women until they back down or relent.

The institutions these thugs focus on are allied institutions (universities, academia, etc.) so the likelihood that they will be tolerated are high. Basically, the less you question and the more you accept ridiculous shit, means more things the party can impose on you. White women are frequently targeted more because its obvious that their spaces are slowly but surely being destroyed by mentally ill men. Troons work because think about it: how many troons are pedophiles and sex predators? How mentally stable are they? They're far easier to control than a free thinking woman. Not only that, troons possess literal armor against criticism. Therefore, the party can enact policies it wants without fear of it being criticized, especially by insurgents in its own ranks because troons propose it. In a troon, you have the ultimate end of debate. They are so marginalized and 'oppressed' nothing they do is wrong. Perfect for a thug or an operative to push an agenda.

It used to be women that held that rank, but now its become too easy to criticize them and they tend to go to the other side a lot more recently, which looks like splitting the ranks, so they have to go. This is what machine politics looks like. Until people stop viewing them as activist and correctly viewing them as what they are, thugs trying to use intimidation and coercion to enforce a doctrine, this will keep happening.
Also people within the party bow to pressure from their own side's activists easily because they share the same precepts, but a "trigger the libs, own the libs" type wouldn't give a shit unless his employer did.
 
Also people within the party bow to pressure from their own side's activists easily because they share the same precepts, but a "trigger the libs, own the libs" type wouldn't give a shit unless his employer did.
Well of course. You challenge someone who mostly agrees with you and you're going to have an easy target, especially if they've bought into the progressive stack that places you above them. They disagree with you, they have a lot to lose, potentially, including their social network. Everything from within and without is telling them to bend the knee, even if they know that they're not wrong, and so they do.

Someone who doesn't agree with you at all is hard. They care if you threaten their livelihood but you have no sway over their social standing. They don't reflexively want to give you the upper ground because their mental framework demands it. They might even push back, deny your claims, deny your accusations, and perhaps even visit real consequences on you like exposing your hypocrisy or reposting your public information to people who you don't want to see it.

Purity spirals are low-effort. Going after allies for not being good enough is the low-hanging fruit. Actually making a difference outside your bubble takes not just work, but even a slight amount of risk. It's no wonder so many of these fuckwits never do it. Just dismiss them as a lost cause and keep on attacking the people you can terrorise.
 
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Well of course. You challenge someone who mostly agrees with you and you're going to have an easy target, especially if they've bought into the progressive stack that places you above them. They disagree with you, they have a lot to lose, potentially, including their social network. Everything from within and without is telling them to bend the knee, even if they know that they're not wrong, and so they do.

Someone who doesn't agree with you at all is hard. They care if you threaten their livelihood but you have no sway over their social standing. They don't reflexively want to give you the upper ground because their mental framework demands it. They might even push back, deny your claims, deny your accusations, and perhaps even visit real consequences on you like exposing your hypocrisy or reposting your public information to people who you don't want to see it.

Purity spirals are low-effort. Going after allies for not being good enough is the low-hanging fruit. Actually making a difference outside your bubble takes not just work, but even a slight amount of risk. It's no wonder so many of these fuckwits never do it. Just dismiss them as a lost cause and keep on attacking the people you can terrorise.
You'd think with that dynamic that they'd purity spiral themselves into irrelevance. Too bad every other system of morality has been thoroughly deconstructed so they win by default.

That's probably why they're so scared of "Alternative influencer networks" &c, their power comes from exploiting the fact that everyone relevant subscribes to the same tenets with varying levels of piety due to the absence of viable alternatives. When they're paranoid enough to be scared of Lobsterism and wignattery you know something's odd. Either that or it's because American intellectual and political life is dominated by institutions founded by Puritans (Harvard and Yale), and we're just seeing Total Depravity rehashed over and over again.
 
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99% of people think stories like this are disgusting and the actions of these activists is nothing short of moronic.

But they keep winning. Why?
This guy is a bit rambly, but he has a very good take on it. Basically, there are enough people willing to give them a little bit of ground until the complainers gain an unprecedented amount of influence in society.
 
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