Social Justice Warriors - Now With Less Feminism Sperging

Next Task said:
She'd still be evil, because no matter how many 'good' friends you have, if you associate with even one person designated evil then you are forever tainted by the association unless you completely disavow them. It's purity or nothing.

This is something I've been pointing out to IRL friends, though I don't think to much success. Oh, you're sharing memes about punching Nazis, how it's our moral duty to fight back against the evil Nazi fascists, etc. Great. People agree with you, unless they stop to think about who actually is getting called a Nazi these days.

I don't know a single person who wouldn't be called a Nazi by someone, and that's not because I make sure to only associate with anti-Semites. But the friends who share these 'punch a Nazi' memes have been motte and bailey'd, because I guarantee to them that, no matter what, there are people who would call them Nazis. Which means they're advocating for violence against themselves, though they don't realise it.

SJWs in particular love a motte and bailey, and diluting every negative word helps them tremendously in this effort. Take a thought-terminating cliché and then apply it to everyone you don't like no matter how ill-fitting, and bam, you're an average NPC idiot. Just don't acknowledge that your definition of 'Nazi' now includes 'anyone who disagrees with me about any culture war issue' and you've covered the main argumentation style of the basic SJW unit. To repeat my last post, it's why it's a religion - the point is to get you to unquestioningly accept what you're told, rather than to think about whether everyone called a Nazi should be considered one, or whether just because an organisation says it's against bad things (eg. Antifa) that means it can only be doing good things.

Nowadays, if someone calls you any of those standard terms - Nazi, fascist, bigot, racist, transphobe, misogynist, incel, just to name a few - the increasingly standard response isn't to do a quick self-examination, to think if there's something that you've actually done to be called that. Why would you? The likelihood it's based on you actually doing something to earn it is ever-shrinking, and if something that used to only be said about people like Fred Phelps is now being said about Fred Rogers, then I'm not going to give a shit about your opinion.
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What a refreshing articulation of the problem.
 
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Next Task said:
Nowadays, if someone calls you any of those standard terms - Nazi, fascist, bigot, racist, transphobe, misogynist, incel, just to name a few - the increasingly standard response isn't to do a quick self-examination, to think if there's something that you've actually done to be called that.
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It's actually something to be done. When you get treated to a torrent of this kind of nonsense, just ask. . ."when you say Nazi do you mean me?" And they will go into major malfunction mode. Especially if they have known you for years and know you are pretty much a fucking socialist, possibly the most class-conscious person they know, and they realize they just called you a fucking Nazi to your face.

And if they do realize they did that, and they're okay with it? Be completely okay with forever removing this piece of shit from your friends.
 
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Legoshi said:
I stopped sympathizing the BLM movement after their statements on the Orlando nightclub killings during the memorial and their past behaviour at pride parades. Not to mention, their temper tantrums during the Paris attacks with the #fuckparis hashtag because they weren't in the limelight. They showed their true colours as dangerously entitled narcissists.
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I imagine that if it was the OTHER way around, there'd be hell to pay. Why inject yourself into things that have nothing to do with you at that immediate moment? How selfish.
 
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Pointless Pedant said:
I wouldn't say either the IRA or the UVF paramilitaries were anywhere near as bad as the combatants in Algeria
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True, but Kingsmill was pretty horrendous.

Not to mention that there were plans floating around for repartitioning NI or ethnically cleansing Catholics which would not have been pretty.
Pointless Pedant said:
The problem for the kind of people we're discussing here is a lack of nuance, where whites are bad and everyone else is good unless they're on the right and then they're uncle Toms or whatever.
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That's the problem.

Algeria was a complex war. If you only think in black and white terms (no pun intended) it's far harder to understand that things like the Oran massacre happened.
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The UVF and IRA and the other paramilitary wings were killing Protestants and Catholics left and right out of retaliation and sectarianism.
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Which is why Americans who support the IRA piss me off.
 
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Marshal Mannerheim said:
That's the problem.

Algeria was a complex war. If you only think in black and white terms (no pun intended) it's far harder to understand that things like the Oran massacre happened.
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The thing is that today too many people think in black and white terms throughout history. In way too many wars and conflicts people believe there was a side that was objectively the good while the other was the objectively bad.

Take for example the colonization of america where people constantly say that the spanish empire stole the gold of the aztecs and enslaved them all with their military might. They sometimes forget that the aztecs were an empire that had subjugated several tribes into pseudo slavery, ripped people's hearts and was one of the main causes of the fall of the mayan empire. When the tribes they had under their toes found a better option, they joined them. That's why many of the mesoamerican tribes joined the spanish in their initial campaign. But does anything of this excuse any side? No. Both commited atrocities but people keep pointing at each side because they identify with X or Y and therefore, X or Y has to be the objectively good side. Same happens with the spanish civil war and it's constantly brought up today.
 
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Malagor the dank omen said:
Take for example the colonization of america where people constantly say that the spanish empire stole the gold of the aztecs and enslaved them all with their military might. They sometimes forget that the aztecs were an empire that had subjugated several tribes into pseudo slavery, ripped people's hearts and was one of the main causes of the fall of the mayan empire. When the tribes they had under their toes found a better option, they joined them. That's why many of the mesoamerican tribes joined the spanish in their initial campaign. But does anything of this excuse any side? No. Both commited atrocities but people keep pointing at each side because they identify with X or Y and therefore, X or Y has to be the objectively good side. Same happens with the spanish civil war and it's constantly brought up today.
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I honestly believe the people who do that just want money and are grifters. The middle east was invaded by the Mongols, but the people in the middle east don't ask for reparations from the mongols. Europeans were enslaved by Northern African countries, but we don't see Europeans asking for reparations for that. I could bring up other examples, but I would be writing here all day. One issue that I do see, is the fact that our education systems don't really cover these other scenarios. They focus only on the Europeans doing the conquering. If they do talk about the Europeans being conquered, it's portrayed as a good thing. This has made it easier for these grifters to do their shitty behavior and get away with it.
 
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Helvítis Túristi said:
I honestly believe the people who do that just want money and are grifters. The middle east was invaded by the Mongols, but the people in the middle east don't ask for reparations from the mongols. Europeans were enslaved by Northern African countries, but we don't see Europeans asking for reparations for that. I could bring up other examples, but I would be writing here all day. One issue that I do see, is the fact that our education systems don't really cover these other scenarios. They focus only on the Europeans doing the conquering. If they do talk about the Europeans being conquered, it's portrayed as a good thing. This has made it easier for these grifters to do their shitty behavior and get away with it.
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As a Britbong, I'll pay reparations for Empire when I get my reparations for Roman rule, the Anglo-Saxon invasions, Viking raids and the Norman Conquest.
 
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Marshal Mannerheim said:
As a Britbong, I'll pay reparations for Empire when I get my reparations for Roman rule, the Anglo-Saxon invasions, Viking raids and the Norman Conquest.
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Hey, in Spain we could also ask for reparations to Lybia, Italy, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Morocco and France to begin with.
But we have enough braincells to know that going down this path of constant blame will lead us nowhere pretty fucking fast.
 
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Malagor the dank omen said:
Hey, in Spain we could also ask for reparations to Lybia, Italy, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Morocco and France to begin with.
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Pero, ¡no olvides los visigodos! Si hubiera un pueblo que debería pagar reparaciones a España sería los visigodos.

Pero por otro lado no había ningún país que tiene un mayoridad de visigodos o godos. Eso es otra razón porque la idea de ”reparaciones” es, de verdad, retrasado
 
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Marshal Mannerheim said:
Pero, ¡no olvides los visigodos! Si hubiera un pueblo que debería pagar reparaciones a España sería los visigodos.

Pero por otro lado no había ningún país que tiene un mayoridad de visigodos o godos. Eso es otra razón porque la idea de ”reparaciones” es, de verdad, retrasado
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Well, but the Romans and the armies of Carthage anhialated most of Spanish pop before the visigoths arrived. The only ones that survived were the Vasque because they were a bunch of mad and tough fuckers that lived in the mountains and, like with the Scots, the romans didn't bothered going against them because it would be a waste of resources and manpower.

Having said that, i don't care in the slightest about much of the past because we are here now and we are the result of all those actions. That is probably something SJWs (particularly the black ones) will never understand.
 
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Legoshi said:
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First of all, the KKK wore the robes to commemorate the soldiers who died in the war. Secondly, those two costumes have an entirely different meanings. On the right, that's the costume for semana santa (Holy Week) in Spain.
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Wasn't KKK anti-Catholic? And while I am not a religious bloke, I never heard of Bible promoting slavery.
 
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