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And now we have a BIIIIIIIG problem. See, the smart play for Citadel is to just wait the cattle out. Eventually the stock will crater. We all know it will. The issue however is not how long Citadel can wait, it's how long the brokers who loaned the stocks in the first place can wait. Remember, they took the "guaranteed money" from Citadel and Melvin, remonitized it, and loaned it on to other people. Who may have in turn loaned what they viewed as a guaranteed thing on again. Creating a knock on effect....AKA SYSTEMIC RISK. Citadel and Melvin will need to pay up soon...or else...

Another great post dude. One addendum here, the thing with "guaranteed money" and investment firms -- that date is not moveable, because that money expected to be paid on date X/XX/XX is usually already allocated 2 to 3 chains down. So, again you get the 'domino' situation in subprime, where everyone has loaned money to each other and if one of those chains blocks, shit starts hitting real fans.
 
I'm beginning to think this goes a lot deep than we suspect. I thought some of these reactions were just normal juden overreach and overreaction.
But it's strange they're holding out this long and going to such extremes....really burning the bridge here.

We know Melvin is balls deep in this, and Citadel is balls deep in Melvin. After Citadel you have the mysterious illumanti BlackRock, which I'm sure factors into this (blackmail is a hella drug).

But ignoring all that. What happens when Melvin goes tits up and cannot cover the spread: that risk goes to broker, and down the chain until it hits an investment bank.

Thanks to 2008 and Dodd-Frank, the exposure to existing banks from these cascading events are massive and worse than ever (at the time people called it a feature, not a bug).

What if everyone got together and said "2021, we know Covid is around for another year, full lockdowns coming, inflation, debt, failing american economy, etc. Let's short the fuck out of retail, smash them into dirt, so we make money and continue to solidify control over the economy while also double dipping to buy the remains on the cheap".

See, they now can buy retail business for the cheap, just like banks bought houses for pennies on the dollar after the subprime crash. And the existing retail business or assets don't mean shit....it's the land (which if you didn't know, American farmland and houses are being scooped up like hotcakes).

So the dominos will fall and start an unsustainable reaction in the market, which at this point is being driven on pure meth-like exuberance. Banks start to fold, money comes out of the market and into dollar hedges, the fed at the point *cannot* pump more money in the market, no actual growth to fuel the market while inflation skyrockets.

We saw today what happened to the markets with just a small little nudge of one hedge fund did.

You just said what I was thinking. The over exposure in brick and mortar retail shorts that is coming to light is...I dont think horrifying is the proper word for it. These funds were so certain of the doom of brick and mortar retail they shorted it, and then turned around shorted their own shorts. So that more stocks were shorted then were actually for sale on the fucking market.

But it was a sure thing. AMC was gonna die, Gamestop was gonna die, Bed Bath and Beyond was gonna die...on that note urgent call, someone do a fucking welfare check on JC Penny. These funds were certain they were doomed and BILLIONS of dollars were apparently tied up in a market position that they were doomed.

And our fearless political leaders just so happened to enforce draconian policies to insure these same companies would stay doomed?
 
The hedgies seem to double, if not triple down on their shorting attempts. Objectively, it would seem like a sound strategy to wait for all of this to die down and then cash in, when the stock inevitably drops.

But r/WSB have gained 4 million new subs in 3 days and other, way larger investors might smell the blood in the water. If diamond hands are really HODLing, the shorts will bleed dry at some point.

It´ll be interesting to see how it all pans out, especially if a government bail-out is deemed necessary. That´ll be a very hard sell, given the behavior of the hedgies imo.
 
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Why do people think the entire market will crash? They're going to sacrifice RH and / or Melvin. They have been trying to get control of the price, but failing that, they will sacrifice the least possible and make new rules to fuck over the little guy.
Anything that can increase volatility is very very very bad in this fake ass market
 
And now we have a BIIIIIIIG problem. See, the smart play for Citadel is to just wait the cattle out. Eventually the stock will crater. We all know it will. The issue however is not how long Citadel can wait, it's how long the brokers who loaned the stocks in the first place can wait. Remember, they took the "guaranteed money" from Citadel and Melvin, remonitized it, and loaned it on to other people. Who may have in turn loaned what they viewed as a guaranteed thing on again.
I like the "we can stay retarded longer than they can stay solvent" meme as much as the next GME-hodling shitposter. But there's a mathematical question behind that joke, and the resolution of the short squeeze:

Does Melvin/Citadel actually have the money to backstop?

Everybody assumes "no", because shorts are supposed to have infinite loss potential. But if you roll the positions as you acquire gleanings of stock, and pay off the earliest expiring shorts, and bully your counterparties into accepting delayed payment to meet the timings, you can keep it going forever... provided you have a lot of money.

But could they have that kind of money available to bail out the entire system? Is it possible for the system to have that much cash on hand to keep itself going?

Just gonna leave this here. No reason, felt doomed, might delete later..

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Is Biden really retarded enough to do this?
You have to remember that probably everything done under the "Biden" administration is at the will and command of Kamala, plain and simple. Grandpa probably doesn't even know where he currently lives, so any major decisions herein (such as bailouts or going nuclear on traders) will be strictly Harris...or to a lesser extent, some other rat in his cabinet like Yellen or that troon.
 
I like the "we can stay retarded longer than they can stay solvent" meme as much as the next GME-hodling shitposter. But there's a mathematical question behind that joke, and the resolution of the short squeeze:

Does Melvin/Citadel actually have the money to backstop?

Everybody assumes "no", because shorts are supposed to have infinite loss potential. But if you roll the positions as you acquire gleanings of stock, and pay off the earliest expiring shorts, and bully your counterparties into accepting delayed payment to meet the timings, you can keep it going forever... provided you have a lot of money.

But could they have that kind of money available to bail out the entire system? Is it possible for the system to have that much cash on hand to keep itself going?

Just gonna leave this here. No reason, felt doomed, might delete later..

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I would like to hope that most, if not all people pumping on GME right now is just doing it to spite the hedgies or just for the potential lulz. because, no matter what Melvin does to bring down the share price, people just needs to hold the stock and they win. no matter what.
 
You just said what I was thinking. The over exposure in brick and mortar retail shorts that is coming to light is...I dont think horrifying is the proper word for it. These funds were so certain of the doom of brick and mortar retail they shorted it, and then turned around shorted their own shorts. So that more stocks were shorted then were actually for sale on the fucking market.

But it was a sure thing. AMC was gonna die, Gamestop was gonna die, Bed Bath and Beyond was gonna die...on that note urgent call, someone do a fucking welfare check on JC Penny. These funds were certain they were doomed and BILLIONS of dollars were apparently tied up in a market position that they were doomed.

And our fearless political leaders just so happened to enforce draconian policies to insure these same companies would stay doomed?
UNHOLY HELL! THAT'S IT!!
Certain businesses were given preference during the initial Covid lockdowns and others with the means began to spike in profits. It could be coincidence and gamblers taking advantage, but what if the protracted lockdowns AND the riots were part of a three-pronged attack of consolidating more power in the hands of a few? Consider also what's going on with farmland and Monsanto with Biden's executive orders and suddenly I'm getting a little convinced this was somewhat, to some degree, coordinated.

- The lockdowns,
- The lack of actual financial support/relief to those businesses who need it,
- The riots looting and destroying everything,
- Further lockdowns and further arbitrary regulations making running those businesses to any real profit nearly impossible...
Then the vultures of Wall Street start circling the dying businesses and picking them off one-by-one in the stock market with all the money going back into the system of the wealthiest of the wealthy and their financiers.

This echoes so much like during gamergate when we were talking about how incestuous fag journos were and suddenly fell down a rabbit hole of DARPA, Bill Gate's connections, Common Core, the Obama administration, etc. Genuine conspiracies we had no idea were going on but stumbled into simple because out autism kept going.

What if WSB has unintentionally uncovered part of a major operation--be it a conspiracy by a rich cabal or simply a serendipitous collusion by those with similar goals--by certain people and that's the reason the vultures are reacting like this even now?

These bastards aren't just being opportunistic and greedy here--they are all, for their own various ends, actively trying to destroy.
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UNHOLY HELL! THAT'S IT!!
Certain businesses were given preference during the initial Covid lockdowns and others with the means began to spike in profits. It could be coincidence and gamblers taking advantage, but what if the protracted lockdowns AND the riots were part of a three-pronged attack of consolidating more power in the hands of a few? Consider also what's going on with farmland and Monsanto with Biden's executive orders and suddenly I'm getting a little convinced this was somewhat, to some degree, coordinated.

- The lockdowns,
- The lack of actual financial support/relief to those businesses who need it,
- The riots looting and destroying everything,
- Further lockdowns and further arbitrary regulations making running those businesses to any real profit nearly impossible...
Then the vultures of Wall Street start circling the dying businesses and picking them off one-by-one in the stock market with all the money going back into the system of the wealthiest of the wealthy and their financiers.

This echoes so much like during gamergate when we were talking about how incestuous fag journos were and suddenly fell down a rabbit hole of DARPA, Bill Gate's connections, Common Core, the Obama administration, etc. Genuine conspiracies we had no idea were going on but stumbled into simple because out autism kept going.

What if WSB has unintentionally uncovered part of a major operation--be it a conspiracy by a rich cabal or simply a serendipitous collusion by those with similar goals--by certain people and that's the reason the vultures are reacting like this even now?

These bastards aren't just being opportunistic and greedy here--they are all, for their own various ends, actively trying to destroy.
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I really do not want this to be true. The implications are absolutely horrifying. if this is true it would be nothing less then an act of war perpetrated on the American people by these investment funds with at best the approval by inaction of our government. I really really do not like what this drama is pulling into the light.

For now I am going with these funds assumed the Covid lockdowns would kill these companies. Rather then these funds pushing the enforcement of these COVID lockdowns to kill these companies.
 
You have to remember that probably everything done under the "Biden" administration is at the will and command of Kamala, plain and simple. Grandpa probably doesn't even know where he currently lives, so any major decisions herein (such as bailouts or going nuclear on traders) will be strictly Harris...or to a lesser extent, some other rat in his cabinet like Yellen or that troon.
Kamala isn't in charge either, its cabinet rats all the way down baby.
 
The lockdowns,
- The lack of actual financial support/relief to those businesses who need it,
- The riots looting and destroying everything,
- Further lockdowns and further arbitrary regulations making running those businesses to any real profit nearly impossible...
Then the vultures of Wall Street start circling the dying businesses and picking them off one-by-one in the stock market with all the money going back into the system of the wealthiest of the wealthy and their financiers.
I agree with your list except for the riots. I think those were for getting people to go "wow! I sure love [company that put a message with a dark background," to bend the knee through fear, and to start erasing any semblance of national pride. The destruction and looting of the riots was secondary.
 
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