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Better late than never, eh.
Soda chan finally managed to get away with her plan wait until AZKi discover that in the next update you can actually make music with crystals

Edit: people in my discord asking me why Korone is breezing Kirby dreamland 3, she played Kirby 64 with a perfect boss rush, Kirby 64 is just 3D dreamland 3
 
Can someone explain who Artemis is, exactly? I've been looking through recent posts and I still don't have a clue who she is. All I know is that she's a tranny and probably an indie ENVtuber.
 
People were talking about how Coco made those short videos awhile ago, and even though this clip is about a week old she did talk about it apparently. Basically, they made most of them during Coco and Kanata's Anniversary during rehearsal downtime. Apparently, she's gone back since then to record more though.

 
It's the voice for me. Like holyfuck, you expect to be a Vtuber with a voice as horrible as shit like that? If techs can't even hide your man as shit voice, have the fucking decency of not hiding it. His voice is like a fucking torture, even fucking Woohoolad is way much more preferable despite his annoying as fuck orbiter acts
I assume you saw some people comparing his voice to that of Towa.
 
I assume you saw some people comparing his voice to that of Towa.
What comparison now? Towa's voice is gorgeous. The very idea of comparing her voice to that troon is insane, it's like comparing a gem to a faeces, Artemis being the faeces naturally


Anyway, I look up that place and immediately found a thread about people asking for Artia's return. There are people genuinely asking for her comeback huh? Even though she's guilty just like all the antis are
 
It's the voice for me. Like holyfuck, you expect to be a Vtuber with a voice as horrible as shit like that? If techs can't even hide your man as shit voice, have the fucking decency of not hiding it. His voice is like a fucking torture, even fucking Woohoolad is way much more preferable despite his annoying as fuck orbiter acts
Her voice is fine, really. It's not a downright trainwreck and she genuinely doesn't talk that much on her stream anyway (though I guess that's not what a streamer supposed to do). She's does however, boring as hell to listen. Her voice is very unenergetic even when she's supposed to be excited, her bgm volume is waay too low and way too chill to cover that, and when she does talk she really didn't say what you haven't heard before.
 
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Can someone explain who Artemis is, exactly? I've been looking through recent posts and I still don't have a clue who she is. All I know is that she's a tranny and probably an indie ENVtuber.
Artemis is a indie vtuber that weaseled his way into the scene hard via shekels and using Domo to over hyper himself, his main gimmick is being a unfunny "im gay look at me" twat on twitter, being a bootleg (he debuted a little after Holomyth was announced using his avatar that is a shark like gura) and simping Hololive hard, several Kiwis and autistic detectives inmediately noticed that his streams are more him filling time to paddle his resume to try in the big leagues, that is why he simp hard Hololive with red superchats, the problem is that he overplayed his hand one time in a Kiara stream, his autist raided the chat and he had to apologize to her, more hilarious thing? Kiara believed it was Gura on chat and not him
 
being Trans isn't a huge deal for me, excluding the morons who think it's a personality or who militarize it to feel more important than the insect they probably are. But what grinds my gears isn't any of that.
It's the baiting.
The whole, 'hate Gamers' thing was the point where I turned from indifference to dislike. It reeked. Smug, condescending , and purposefully polarizing. Now I love caustic, against the grain humor. But that was just so inadequate it hurt.
Seriously, you shell out enough cash for a top quality model and your gonna make you personality "i'm gay lol" and "I sure do hate gamers (despite being one myself)!"? It's just so low effort it hurts. Honestly if his fans weren't trying to influence peddle as hard as they were he would have honestly been forgotten at this point.
he's does however, boring as hell to listen. Her voice is very unenergetic even when she's supposed to be excited, her bgm volume is waay too low and way too chill to cover that, and when she does talk she really didn't say what you haven't heard before.
Oh dear lord that's kind of sad.
 
Can someone explain who Artemis is, exactly? I've been looking through recent posts and I still don't have a clue who she is. All I know is that she's a tranny and probably an indie ENVtuber.
That's basically correct. Autotuned voice (to cover up pitch) and blatant clout-chaser. By "clout-chaser" I mean that he's very active on twitter and got astroturfed by some dude, also spends money to try leech of Hololive popularity. He also pirated their concert and claimed he couldn't afford it (obvious lie). Not a full-blown lolcow yet but basically no redeeming qualities.
Her voice is fine, really. It's not a downright trainwreck and she genuinely doesn't talk that much on her stream anyway (though I guess that's not what a streamer supposed to do). She's does however, boring as hell to listen. Her voice is very unenergetic even when she's supposed to be excited, her bgm volume is waay too low and way too chill to cover that, and when she does talk she really didn't say what you haven't heard before.
The reason why it sounds that way is because males tend to use less pitch range when speaking, i.e less expressive. It doesn't sound weird because you're used to hearing it, but when you change the pitch to a female range it just sounds deadpan. I believe there are ways to cover for that but then you're adding more artificial distortion.

Also here's a probable face by someone in the thread. The fact that the chin is covered is a dead giveaway.
 
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How do you niggas manage to get banned? I've only gotten warnings, and on my tamest posts.
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Xenogears (MAYBE Kiara, but she will drop it during Nortune sewers section or earlier).
Kiara is not a hardcore JPRG players, if people believe for a second that Atelier ryza or Fire emblem is super hard, let me tell you, it is not, is like saying Neptunia is hard when there is absolutely no deep in the mechanics, Xenogears is also technically not hard but very grindy, specially at the start that the game let you breeze very easily until you hit the palace of the desert town

Also someone reminded me that they already had Square permits but apparently all Hololive forgot about it, because Kanata actually played Chrono Trigger, wonder if now that they have Nintendo AND Square enix permits someone is going to dive into Super Mario RPG
 
The reason why it sounds that way is because males tend to use less pitch range when speaking, i.e less expressive. It doesn't sound weird because you're used to hearing it, but when you change the pitch to a female range it just sounds deadpan. I believe there are ways to cover for that but then you're adding more artificial distortion.
Probably, I'm either too dumb or too apathetic to care about whether she sound right as a "female". She just sound okay-ish to me, and for all I care that's good enough to give her a chance. But like holy shit her stream is so lifeless I think I'm actually more alert if I have literally nothing to listen.
 
wonder if now that they have Nintendo AND Square enix permits someone is going to dive into Super Mario RPG


RE: Artemis. The capstone to all of the things you guys mentioned, and the thing that offended me the most, is he did ALL of this (expensive Rig, advertising, trooning out on Twitter, etc) without actually making sure he would be good at streaming FIRST. Like, SO many people forget that you have to actually have a talent for streaming in SOME capacity first before you even throw the Virtual Avatar on top of it. For fukes sake, do some test streams first and pretend you're dealing with a fake audience. Test your ability to keep up with interesting chit chat, gameplay commentary, and answering questions from the audience.
 


RE: Artemis. The capstone to all of the things you guys mentioned, and the thing that offended me the most, is he did ALL of this (expensive Rig, advertising, trooning out on Twitter, etc) without actually making sure he would be good at streaming FIRST. Like, SO many people forget that you have to actually have a talent for streaming in SOME capacity first before you even through the Virtual Avatar on top of it. For fukes sake, do some test streams first and pretend you're dealing with a fake audience. Test your ability to keep up with interesting chit chat, gameplay commentary, and answering questions from the audience.
Of course it was her, but i dont remember her playing recently so i will assume the video was carpet bombed when the apocalypse happened or im to autistic to find it in her channel
 
Her voice is fine, really. It's not a downright trainwreck
It doesn't sound weird because you're used to hearing it, but when you change the pitch to a female range it just sounds deadpan. I believe there are ways to cover for that but then you're adding more artificial distortion.

Also here's a probable face by someone in the thread. The fact that the chin is covered is a dead giveaway.
The voice isn't really a factor. I know a few women who have a similar voice to what we heard at debut. It definitely is out of the ordinary though. It could be real. . . so I give the benefit of the doubt regardless of that image posted earlier (I've seen much oilier, mannish women). I'm on the fence honestly. But in every form known I find Artemis incredibly unattractive.

Any comparison to Towa is absolutely idiotic though. Her voice is very much female in everything but pitch. . . which is the shakiest of determining factors for vocals. Of course, this argument is devoid of the fact that I find her facedoxx incredibly attractive.
 
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I am trying to learn mahjong. Man, that shit is not easy
I have learned some mahjong (to the point where I am able to win something in Yakuza games) and it makes following Coco's streams (where she put some serious hours into mahjong) actually fun. It can be quite exciting to follow as long as you know the basic rules and played some games yourself.

Xenogears is also technically not hard but very grindy
The only point of Xenogears I would call grindy is discovering new moves, but you can do just fine as long as Citan is in the team and you upgrade your Gears regularly.
The main difficulty in making a show out of Xenogears is how text-heavy this game is and the story, which incorporates elements from judeochristian mythology, gnosticism, psychology, sci-fi concepts from various books, genetics and so on, all presented in sometimes very hard to follow way. Explaining it to a casual viewer takes some preparation and further reading, and - in short - requires dedication. Oh, and the whole "priests fucking children" story fragment this may be actually against the rules of Hololive.
 
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