Now, let's address all of this:
I've read coming-out statements from transpeople before and I have personally never seen such a coming out statement as the one Oliver posted. Coming out statements can be extremely emotional and overwhelming, but they are usually expressing positive emotions. In a coming-out statement, the trans person usually addresses their loved ones and their community, asking them for their support and assuring them that this radical change will not affect the familial love they feel towards the people closest to them in their lives. That this usually works otherwise IRL with them losing all their friends and their families falling apart is another matter, the point is that trannies make an effort to (appear to) embark on a transition with the best of intentions, and their coming-out statements reflect this optimism. This coming-out statement on the other hand is filled with political hyperboly and combative language. Most of the statement is not about Oliver himself or his transition but about the way he intends to instrumentalize his transition to make political demands, or the role he sees for himself in fighting the SJW TRA culture war against TERFlandia. It frankly reads like a political manifesto, or even a personal declaration of war. ("We have always been at war with TERFlandia")
I also get a tinge of "Jesus Complex" being at work here, like he only transitioned in order to make himself a famous martyr in the culture war. Take for example those tweets where Oliver claims to be the most famous trannie in the UK by virtue of coming out. I am pretty sure India from Big Brother is way more famous a British trannie amongst the general public than he is (or what about Youtuber Jimmy Dodger, a UK transman with hundreds of thousands of subscribers on Youtube), so I have to wonder about the delusions of grandeur motivating him to make such a shockingly unreflective statement about his alleged importance or brand-name recognition in his country. This definitely smacks of "Jesus Complex" way more than it does of "Gender Dysphoria". Remember that Oliver's parents are doctors so he probably already knows what it's like to live with people with mini-Jesus Complexes (perhaps not as severe as his) of their own.
Is there a word or phrase for autogynephilia but towards troons?
It's called GAMP, or gynandromorphophilia. GAMP is a term that we don't use much here on KF so let's break it down:
gyn = woman
andro = man
morpho = the form/shape/look of
philia = attraction/arousal
Gynandromorphophilia = the sexual attraction to or arousal at the feminine shape in a man (or the masculine shape in a woman). Trannies chasers are gynandromorphophiles. Trannie chasers who become AGPs to gain sexual access to trannies are still GAMPs.
A transbian couple is usually AGP4AGP. There are also HSTS4HSTS transbian couples but those are much more rare. "Transbians" are usually 2 AGPs LARPing at being lesbians because of their GAMP. There are many older non-passing AGPs who desperate want to have sex with younger passing HSTSs - aka trannie chasers who only became trans to gain sexual access to HSTSs - but since most HSTSs are only interested in cis straight men, the AGPs have make do with one another. The only IRL example that I know of an HSTS abandoning her cis guy to be with an AGP is Theryn abandoning Louis to be with Nyk. I think the average HSTS would rather do another gay man (especially if he's masc, which is what HSTSs are into) before they ever do a GAMP-turned-AGP.
These men discovered they are GAMPs or gynandromorphophilics (ie, having a sexual attraction to a man who looks like a woman but isn't, aka the attraction to the feminine form itself regardless of the "carrier" of those feminine characteristics.
I almost feel some sympathy for Contra here. But considering he does the same thing to women that Ollygail is now doing to him -nah.
I do have sympathy for Contra in a way because there's this small, small part of Contra that comes out that I can tell really wants to call out this shit.
I am still working on the timeline but here's what I have so far:
Oliver claims he started HRT "a year ago", so in late January/early February of 2020. I personally don't believe this, but if we go along with this claim, then Oliver must've informed Nyk of his intent to transition around that time.
Next relevant date: Nyk posted the "Shame" video - where he told the story of how he broke up with Theryn and Oliver at the same time, and where he came out as a transbian who prefers to have sex with other trannies - on the 16th of February of 2020. In other words, Nyk came out as a transbian around the same time that Oliver claims to have started HRT.
Shame | ContraPoints 1,711,981 views Feb 16, 2020
Again, if we go along with Oliver's claim (which I don't) that he began transitioning in late January/early February of 2020, then Nyk was either working on the
Shame video (about breaking up with Oliver & Theryn and being a transbian) while Oliver came out as trans... or perhaps Nyk made the
Shame video in response to Oliver coming out as trans to Nyk in private, perhaps in a desperate attempt at rekindling their love affair. ("Hey Oliver, if you're a woman and I am woman too, let's get together again and be transbians!")
It's even possible that Nyk made the
Shame video, not because he felt shame at being a transbian (pretty sure Nyk doesn't give a shit about being even more degenerate than everyone already perceives him to be) but because he honestly felt shame at possibly having provoked Oliver's transition.
/LGBT/ has a collage - apparently Nyk deletes
every tweet PT ever replied to, and some tripfag called NatAnon who claims to be connected with Contra is saying PT did something bad to him. Which is definitely not out of character for mentally unstable gay men.
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I'm sure PT is a weirdo sex freak, there's a specific kind of predator that seems unique to anglos - a mixture of basic bitch male feminism and champagne socialism. Guys like this are commonplace in the university system here.
I am not surprised by this, I had noticed that Oliver had already deleted many of his 2018 tweets to Nyk, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was Oliver himself who had asked Nyk to memory-hole his side of conversations along with him so they could synchronize their deletion spree together. I mean, , the fact that Nyk posted his video about JK Rowling just days before Oliver posted this statement... bitches, they must've coordinated this shit together. Nyk and Oliver are probably in touch again and they planned for this to be a dual attack in the culture war. The only thing that seemingly pushed Nyk out of his depression and inactivity was the prospect of joining Oliver side-by-side in the culture war.
I'm waiting to hear more about this situation. ContraPoints has deleted every picture et al. from before they went fulltime tran, and they've deleted their entire Twitter besides, so I don't take that collage in and of itself as definitive proof of something amiss. Ostensibly, Contra's unfollowed PT though. Whatever the falling out is about, "Abby" shouting out Contra in the new video, the way they've totally copped Contra's style-- with the full context of the relationship, it all looks very weird. And the weirdness is mostly owned by PT.
Nyk has to know that Oliver's GD is nothing of the sort. Even the most true believer SJW TRA trannies know when someone's being a copy-cat, they just keep their mouths shut about it because it's verboten in the SJW cult to openly question someone's transition. Nyk was in touch with Oliver even after their break-up, and he must've seen the effects of the lockdown on Oliver.
I am sure Nyk will deny any of this up and down, and will particularly deny that what he's witnessing here with his ex-boyfriend is an ROGD cluster outbreak. Afterall, denying the occurence of ROGD cluster outbreaks is practically an article of belief in the SJW cult. However, even just for a moment, the thought must've crossed Nyk's mind that Nyk himself was the reason Oliver went trans.
But since Nyk and Oliver are both in the same SJW cult, neither of them can explore this thought or even articulate it. Nyk can't come out and express any lingering doubts he might have about Oliver's transition:
"I think I made my ex-boyfriend go trans. I wonder why. Is it jealousy because I got more popular than him when I became trans? Is he copying me or is this his way of letting me know he misses me? Does he want us to hook up again as a transbian couple? Am I to blame for what is happening to him? Are the TERFs right? Is ROGD real? Oh no, I am having a wrongthink! Disavow, disavow... I love Big Brother! WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH TERFLANDIA!"
/lgbt/ is on a bout the rumour that Contra was assulted by Abigolly, has this been discussed here?
I don't think it's Oliver. Nyk said it was a "prominent activist on the left", and BreadTubers are not activists but armchair critics. If it was another content creator, I am pretty sure Nyk would've been more specific about it. He would have said it was a content creator instead of an activist. Activism makes me think it was someone involved IRL politics, not internet jerk circle shit. Possibly a TRA who campaigns IRL.
Talking about /lgbt/, lots of post are being deleted.
It seems like tranny jannies are really angry for some reason.
That's because Nyk's stans got themselves banned on 4chan for constantly spamming the image boards with Nyk's content. It has since been site-wide policy to delete ContraPoints spam, even if it appears to be sincere. They even suspected it was Nyk posting his videos there himself. Anyway, 4chan had enough of Nyk and/or his stans posting vanity threads, so they shut those threads down and began to troll him in this other thread, claiming that Nyk wass already post-op and that he supposedly had sex with his mancrush Oliver PhilosophyTube. (Nyk is still pre-op for anyone reading along.)
Someone made
this comment on the tranny sideshow thread and now I'm wondering if there's any truth to it: "Some people are speculating that philosophytube is the person who raped hontra, since they apparently were together at some point and hontra said that his rapist is too big on the leftist internet that he is unable to out him. I don't know about the timelines but some people say they match, big if true since now phallotube is untouchable. Hontra apparently talked about the rape in the recent harry potter video."
See above, plus people post a lot of unfounded shit in that thread. Why do you think I stopped posting there? It's TERFs having a jerk-circle over troons, not a source of accurate drama info like other threads here.
Now, it's kind of unlikely that Contra's hanging out with actual political figures, so it's likely it was a Breadtuber. Olly fits the profile.
Ohai newbie, Nyk has done livestreams with IRL Democrats like Bradley Manning, Bryanna Gray (Bernie Sanders' campaign leader), was even going to do a Livestream with Bernie Sanders himself at one point during Bernie's presidential campaign in 2020. He's also been on Livestreams with AOC. Absolutely Nyk is hanging out with IRL Democrats who are in congress right now. Nyk was himself once a canvasser for Obama and that's how he met a lot of Democrats who later rose in the party. Youtube would not be sucking up to Nyk and treating him as preferentially as they do if Nyk didn't have IRL policial connections and Youtube and their Google overlords weren't already aware of that.
I mean if it's true then it's really shitty of him. I'm no fan of Nyk, but even this junkie troon should be physically safe. It's Nyk's human right to get killed by an opium overdose after all.
But to be honest, I don't buy it. Abighoul just doesn't seem the person to attack somebody physically, but rather a person that deals the blows with the keyboard. I think Nyk's problem with Olly is exactly his trooning out. We have to be honest: Nyk is more intelligent than 99% of BreadTube. He knows he's a grifter and that he says things in his videos that he doesn't believe himself (he doesn't think that non-binary people exist, no matter how much he tries to prove otherwise). So it's obvious that he's sickened that Olly tries the same grift now as well.
Same. Oliver literally made a video about how he couldn't even raise a hand against his cis woman girlfriend when she hit him during a drunken rage. If Oliver - who claims to be a judoka with military training in his actor's profile - couldn't even raise a hand against a drunken woman to defend himself, is he really the kind of man to wrestle with Nyk? Obviously not.
