Ethan Ralph's December 16th, 2020 Revenge Porn Arrest & Trial - Trial outcome: Ralph pled No Contest, was found guilty and has a 1yr suspended sentence (not probation).

What will happen?

  • Plea deal with no jail time

    Votes: 56 25.0%
  • Plea deal with jail time

    Votes: 44 19.6%
  • Guilty with no jail time

    Votes: 31 13.8%
  • Guilty with jail time

    Votes: 37 16.5%
  • Not guilty, alawgs btfo'd, Can't Abort the Retort!

    Votes: 33 14.7%
  • Ralph aborts himself

    Votes: 19 8.5%
  • Other (explain in post)

    Votes: 4 1.8%

  • Total voters
    224
  • Poll closed .
To you all saying that Ralph will plea out. I don't think that will happen. Not sure why the prosecution would offer a plea seeing as they have direct evidence that Ralph did do it. They only offer pleas if they aren't sure they will get a conviction. The other time they offer it is for first time offenders, but given Ralph's past with trying to assault an officer and the history of belligerent behavior is going to work against him. A jury trial is 100% going to work against him. Ralph isn't a sympathetic person. The jury will see how gross he is as a human being.

Also I don't see Mr. Vickers telling his daughter to let him plea out when they have that fat fuck by the balls like they do.
The plea agreement doesn't always involve reducing or dismissing a charge. Sometimes it involves the defendant pleading guilty as charged in exchange for a more lenient sentencing recommendation. In any event, notwithstanding any plea agreement, if Ralph is willing to plead guilty to the charged revenge porn offense, the prosecutor can't force him to go to trial.

And let's not discount the chance that jury will find Ralph to be a lovable character. They may well laugh at his antics and decide to nullify the charge against him (i.e., vote "not guilty" in spite of the evidence). He may even pick up a few new Killstream fans if he plays his cards right. It's a bold strategy, but Ralph is a bold man.
 
Let me throw another theory out there because it hasn't been discussed yet.

What if Ralph got rid of Pantsupedo, told Faith that he was sorry and that he wants to take care of her and the baby and be a family and get married. What if he grovelled, apologised, guilted her about making Josh Vickers fatherless even though he wants to be a part of his life, suicide baited and said he'd rather kill himself than pay child support to a kid he'll never see, etc.

We all know that Faith would tell her parents that she'd never get back together with him but even after trying to secretly escape the gunt, she went crawling back. I think if he begged hard enough she'd cave. Ralph has no luck with this court case but he still has a chance if he butters this stupid naive kid up.
 
let's not discount the chance that jury will find Ralph to be a lovable character. They may well laugh at his antics and decide to nullify the charge against him.
On the internet perhaps, but I doubt antics will counter evidence, Ralph looks like a weird online creep and I doubt his tism will play out well in a court a room. Let's not also forget Mr. V's pretty good at winning hearts and minds and faith is great at playing victim.
 
just to film a fat failure to launch man child walk in and out of a courtroom.
waddle, ralph waddles into rooms

On the internet perhaps, but I doubt antics will counter evidence, Ralph looks like a weird online creep and I doubt his tism will play out well in a court a room. Let's not also forget Mr. V's pretty good at winning hearts and minds and faith is great at playing victim.
you also have to consider ralph is freakishly fucking small and tiny despite being a ball of fat and can not dress himself. you also have to consider that the judge and or any jury will be forced to look at ethan ralph's clitoris
 
Let's not also forget Mr. V's pretty good at winning hearts
I hope he's verbose and terrible like he was on the blog.

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In any event, notwithstanding any plea agreement, if Ralph is willing to plead guilty to the charged revenge porn offense, the prosecutor can't force him to go to trial.
However, the prosecutor has no obligation to give him any kind of deal for that. Nor does the judge have any obligation not to give him the max anyway. Also if he does plead guilty he's going to have to be a registered sex offender.

And there actually can be a trial if the prosecutor insists on a trial on the sentencing. In some states (I don't know if Virginia is one) the prosecution can insist on a jury trial too.
 
However, the prosecutor has no obligation to give him any kind of deal for that. Nor does the judge have any obligation not to give him the max anyway. Also if he does plead guilty he's going to have to be a registered sex offender.

And there actually can be a trial if the prosecutor insists on a trial on the sentencing. In some states (I don't know if Virginia is one) the prosecution can insist on a jury trial too.
Virginia prosecutors can insist on a Jury trial but apparently it is insanely rare in criminal cases these days.

It's odd that so many defendants would accept being just at the judges mercy. What are the pros/cons to this, AnOminous?
 
I looked into this a little bit too. This site gives pretty good rundown on the law regarding public’s right of access to judicial proceedings in Virginia, which you must then supplement with local court rules and Covid emergency declarations. As a member of the public, you have a presumptive qualified right of access to Pretrial proceedings, meaning it is not an absolute right. You have standing to assert this right, independent of Ralph or his wishes. Generally, this presumption can be overcome if giving you access undermines the fairness of the proceedings. The Covid emergency declarations are technically a separate issue, but if you don’t explicitly assert your state and Constitutional right to be there, this is the most convenient ground on which to exclude you from the courthouse. Look at this document carefully—it was just extended yesterday through Feb. 14th. The rules are vague, but if you don't fall into any of those enumerated categories of persons excluded, it appears the clerk "must" allow you access "Consistent with constitutional and statutory requirements" governing "access to the courtroom."

If you are serious about getting access to Ralph's proceedings, do the following:
  1. Write a succinct, tone-neutral letter to the clerk explaining your interest in observing the case, and cite some of the authorities I linked re: right of access. Cite both federal and Virginia state cases. Also explain that you don’t fall into any of the categories of people who must be excluded under the most recent Covid declaration. Explain that streaming the hearing is likely not an option given that the charge is a sexual offense. This is your most practical option. If this fails, you may need the assistance of an attorney.
  2. If the clerk still refuses to give you access, consider filing a "motion for leave to intervene for the limited purpose of asserting the public’s qualified right of access." The motion consists of a memorandum of points and authorities, a signed declaration, a proof of service, and a proposed order. There may be exemplars online somewhere. You must serve it on both the DA, and Ralph's counsel. Expect Ralph to oppose it. There's basically no practical way to do this without doxxing yourself to Ralph, so make sure this is what you want before committing to it.
  3. If the court denies your motion, the next step is an appeal. This is basically useless, because you will have to wait until the case is over. You can try filing a writ of mandate, which doesn't require you to wait until the case is over, but it appears current VA Supreme Court law says such orders must be challenged by appeal rather than writ. Hertz v. Times-World Corp., 259 Va. 599, 610, 528 S.E.2d 458, 464 (2000).
Personally, I hope you do it. We need people out there doing real journalism.
Unfortunately time is just not on my side. All of this requires me taking days off work to file all the paperwork in a rushed manner. I should have started this process in December not now. Unbased and blue pilled off me. Best thing to do is to just show up on the date, assert rights, get rejected by the bailiff on the spot and sue after the fact. Very lame.

The worst part? I am middle class. Which means I dont qualify for in forma pauperus like Melinda but also cannot afford to set money on fire to assert my rights.
 
I think he's angling for a plea deal that will see him sentenced to a short stint in a rehabilitation facility in lieu of jailtime. The day Peyton left, he had hours of unaccounted-for time that he stated involved "travel upstate", which is where Google Maps shows a large cluster of rehabilitation centers. Between that and his use of an attorney who specifically calls attention to her strategy of using a defendant's history of substance abuse to decrease their sentence, it seems like he's laying the groundwork for this outcome. Finally, the fact that the state has not added any other witnesses (especially Chris Kerr, who was the one to actually receive the revenge pornography from Ethan firsthand) suggests to me that they think they've already got him dead to rights. The handful of Virginia inpatient rehab centers with alcohol programs I checked are still accepting patients even during the pandemic, so it's on the table, at least.

Also, I really hope somebody does make it to the courthouse to record him walking in, since I have a strong feeling he's going to try to make himself look younger to mitigate the visible age difference and end up looking ridiculous (e.g. badly dyed hair, shaved jowls, etc). He legitimately looks old enough to be her father in some of the pictures they took together and that will negatively influence pretty much any finder of fact, if only subconsciously.
 
Unfortunately time is just not on my side. All of this requires me taking days off work to file all the paperwork in a rushed manner. I should have started this process in December not now. Unbased and blue pilled off me. Best thing to do is to just show up on the date, assert rights, get rejected by the bailiff on the spot and sue after the fact. Very lame.

The worst part? I am middle class. Which means I dont qualify for in forma pauperus like Melinda but also cannot afford to set money on fire to assert my rights.
If you do however, indicate that being there for Ralph's trial is in the public interest not because we in the Farms want you to be there but because Ralph is involved with shady people who are white supremacists, received mysterious funding and is under FBI investigation, intended to storm Capitol Hill and so on. You as a citizen reporter need to be there to report it.

That said, I think Ralph will get a slap on his wrist. A fine, probation extended and at most a few days in jail.

Leaking a sextape while itself scummy is not the worst thing Ralph has done in the Faith saga. The fact that Vickers only went after him for that and not follow up with charges of grooming, isolating her from her family, drugging her and assaulting her like what R Kelly did to his victims is either a mistake on their part or they are being easy on Ralph.
 
Leaking a sextape while itself scummy is not the worst thing Ralph has done in the Faith saga. The fact that Vickers only went after him for that and not follow up with charges of grooming, isolating her from her family, drugging her and assaulting her like what R Kelly did to his victims is either a mistake on their part or they are being easy on Ralph.
It's not up to them what the prosecutor decides to charge.
 
However, the prosecutor has no obligation to give him any kind of deal for that.
Right. Of course. Neither party has an obligation to make or accept plea deals.
Nor does the judge have any obligation not to give him the max anyway.
True. I don't know about in VA, but some jurisdictions, like in federal court, the plea agreement can specify a sentence, and the judge must reject the plea if he/she intends to depart from the sentencing recommendation.
Also if he does plead guilty he's going to have to be a registered sex offender.
We discussed this a few weeks ago IIRC. It looks like he would need a "third or subsequent conviction" for any of the Class 1 misdemeanors listed under § 9.1-902(A)(4)(1), which includes his charge for "unlawful dissemination." I could be wrong, but that's how it looks to me.
In some states (I don't know if Virginia is one) the prosecution can insist on a jury trial too.
Wow, I hadn't heard of that. Seems like a performative exercise if the defendant is willing to plead.
On the internet perhaps, but I doubt antics will counter evidence, Ralph looks like a weird online creep and I doubt his tism will play out well in a court a room. Let's not also forget Mr. V's pretty good at winning hearts and minds and faith is great at playing victim.
Nonsense. The jury will love Ralph. He has that "everyman" appeal that jurors love. Wait till they get a taste of that Ralphian charisma. When he huffs her shit, they will acquit.
 
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On the internet perhaps, but I doubt antics will counter evidence, Ralph looks like a weird online creep and I doubt his tism will play out well in a court a room. Let's not also forget Mr. V's pretty good at winning hearts and minds and faith is great at playing victim.
No no no ralph is very charming.

Dont take the plea deal ralph, you can beat this.

Edit: sorry loremaster, meant to reply to had
 
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