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If another Hitomi Chris/Towa/Aloe situation happens again, there will be some serious nastiness the JP gachikoi are going to get slapped with via DeepL translation. It will probably start with simple memes but then escalate to flame wars. Or maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part.
I know it's a lot more nuanced then that, but from an outsider's perspective, it might not seem that much different than what happened with the Chinese fanbase during the whole Coco/Haachama debacle. I do wonder now with Hololive EN's success and JP's overseas fanbase how much power they have when it comes to having a say with how certain talents are treated. (Given a large enough controversy)
 
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Indeed. It is because of things like this in general (and the sleaziness of the idol managers and agencies within the industry in particular) that I hate the idol industry. Idol groups, not so much (not entirely into them, but, whatever). And it isn't just the female idols, it effects the male ones, too. I knew a guy who was given hormones to prevent him from aging during puberty because he was involved with one of the junior branches of Johnny's, a major male talent agency. Messed up shit.
Here's a good video I saw sometime last year on how fucked up the idol industry is:

Notable points were that they had to use secret cellphones or tablets to keep tabs on the outside world, they weren't paid for a year and a half and used their first paychecks to pay off loans during that time and the company charged them the cost of the debut as well as some bullshit missed event expenses while they were on tour with Lady Gaga. The gears of the music industry around the world is oiled with the blood of ripped off talent, but in the idol industry, it seems like crushing a kid's dreams and locking them down as an actual debt slave is the end goal.

I could also go into the truth about hostess and host clubs, but that's a bit further outside of the idol tangent and I have an image as a dumb weeb to keep up.
 
There was this one ecchi JP Vtuber who did audio-porn ASMR and actually did get railed (or at least pretended to get railed) on stream.
Ah, yes, people's reactions to this NTR stream were damn fine.

Also, this is still on youtube, although I bet it's a reupload of reupload.

Meanwhile Suisei is still demonetized.

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On the topic of idols. They aren't even supposed to urinate or defecate due to how perfect they are - nothing goes to waste. According to the most braindead gachkois.
Might have read that here before.
 
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Do the japanese fans really expect a grown woman to "live" inside a plastic container, isolated from earthly desires such as food, sex or sleep?
No.
unironically, yes.
That's really reductionist. The reality is actually pretty complicated and also off-topic so I'll keep it short. Let me put it like this--the idol industry, on the surface, much like anything moe-related, has been compared multiple times to the "floating world" of the geisha. This is really apparent in maid cafes. The idol industry has morphed into it from what it started out as (which was a copy of the French idol industry of the mid-to-late 1970s). It sells a fantasy world, pure-and-simple. The problem is, some people stop living in reality and instead live in the fantasy bubble and rail against anything that shatters the fantasy. On the other hand, the Japanese management sees the talents as mere products to be sold and by controlling every aspect of their lives, they reduce any variables that might interfere with their profit margins. Hell, Japanese management sees EVERYONE as mere cogs in a machine, anyway.

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Ah, yes, people's reactions to this NTR stream were damn fine.
That's the one. The reactions were mostly total coomer stuff, just in Japanese. How these guys manage simultaneously to type and fap is beyond me. Lots of "Ii, ne?" and "Nakadashi hoshi?"
 
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I could also go into the truth about hostess and host clubs, but that's a bit further outside of the idol tangent and I have an image as a dumb weeb to keep up.
What little I know about hostesses and hosts is what the Yakuza games have taught me; the girls get paid according to how much cash they can mooch of clients, then in their offtime they spend their salary on host clubs with their masculine counterparts, who in turn return the favor on their off duty, rinse and repeat.
 

Nijinyanji is going to premiere in less than 5 minutes. The first hitters are mal mal, noor and two dude I literally could not bring myself to care about.

She just sing nyan cat for 5 minutes and that's it? I was promised a 15 minutes segment each.
 
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Do the japanese fans really expect a grown woman to "live" inside a plastic container, isolated from earthly desires such as food, sex or sleep?
Ironically yes. Just watch the gachakoi meltdown when Mizuki Nana, a forever 17 with 20+ years of idol experience, announced her married last year. When I read about it I was facepalm so hard.
 
I know it's a lot more nuanced then that, but from an outsider's perspective, it might not seem that much different than what happened with the Chinese fanbase during the whole Coco/Haachama debacle. I do wonder now with Hololive EN's success and JP's overseas fanbase how much power they have when it comes to having a say with how certain talents are treated. (Given a large enough controversy)
It’s still unknown but I bet they would still draw some red line on how Hololivers should act if said livers are Japanese like majority of them to completely oversea like the EN and ID girls. So far, even ex idol like Kiara is still doing just fine. Coco, who grew up over sea is getting the same treatment (let them do whatever). I wonder what they think about half blood like Rushia or Hoshikawa.
 
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Since Calli doomposting is out of season...
Wish the ID manager would stop wacking off for 10 mintues and tardwrangle harder.

Overseas fanbase can be pretty toxic but on these types of cases, good on us for standing on the right side of argument. This shit and the one with Towa was pure garbage.
Absolutely was, and they still kinda treat her unfavorably because of it. She's the only Holo talent to have a higher ratio of EN viewers and comments than JP. Also, her growth has been at an absolute crawl since that incident, numberfagging here for a sec but there's no way in hell her sub count should still be where it's at, with the amount of talent she has (same goes for Flare too while I'm at it), But, of course, she also streams very randomly and usually not on a tight schedule so there's that.

Regardless, I'm very happy the overseas homies could somewhat fill the gap the permavirgin menhera unicorns left in her viewership. Though, some people say that it wasn't her male friends' voices that was the actual yab, but the fact that she lied and said they were Hololive staff, which is what also pissed Cover off and gave her the wrist-slap. But, either way, whatever.
 
Wish the ID manager would stop wacking off for 10 mintues and tardwrangle harder.
Is it even possible to tardwrangle ID? One would think that if someone was serious about "maintaining image" for ID specifically, it would drive most people to drink.
 
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