Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[White Devil]

We can't necessarily call Hutts trannies when trannies by definition mutilate themselves to become the other sex, whereas Hutts naturally can be either gender. They're hermaphrodites, not transsexuals.

Transsexuals just look like Hutts, it's easy to get confused.

 

[Max Doof]

This guy?

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He was seen as a derogatory stereotype from his first appearance in The Clone Wars movie, so I doubt that they will want to revisit this character.



http://www.mtv.com/news/2430499/is-ziro-the-hutt-the-first-gay-alien-in-star-wars-history/ (Archive)

Wait wasn't he in a relationship with snoodles?

 

[Creep3r]

Wait wasn't he in a relationship with snoodles?

Yeah but that was long after the initial bitching about the character in his movie premier, so Filoni and his crew gave him Snootles to avoid anymore hate, despite the only ones bitching about it being idiots on MTV and a few politispergs who didn't know jack about Hutts.

Anyway... WCB uploaded a new video discussing the lack of nucanon toys (outside of adult Ahsoka) and reviewing them, along with checking out all the unsold sequel merch in stores.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Wait, how could Ziro be gay? Didn't he have a girlfriend? (that singer from Jabba's Palace)

Yes. Although he can be criticized for being a Louisiana aristocrat stereotype.

EDIT: Also for speaking English Basic when Hutts speak Huttese.

 

[Hooligan Handgun]

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[Ghostse]

Anyway... WCB uploaded a new video discussing the lack of nucanon toys (outside of adult Ahsoka) and reviewing them, along with checking out all the unsold sequel merch in stores.

Quibbling point: Hasbro has abandoned them, not Disney (or at least LucasFilms current leadership)

 

[SuiSui1]

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These people are obsessed with making characters part of the rainbow mafia. And it doesn't help when the actor supports their insanity.

 

[White Devil]

Shut the fuck up, Cuck Hamil.

 

[Creep3r]

These people are obsessed with making characters part of the rainbow mafia. And it doesn't help when the actor supports their insanity.

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Because they think SW wasn't progressive enough until Disney got ahold of it, and getting a woke bingo is the only way a product gets recognized as good these days. They even retconned Lando into Pando and even changed his name to some royalty shit. All that's left now is to retcon a PT exclusive character into being a troon or something.

 

[The Valeyard]

All that's left now is to retcon a PT exclusive character into being a troon or something.

It’ll happen as soon as it’s the PT’s turn to get the From a Certain Point of View treatment.

 

[Commander X]

It's still so funny that pseuds took over Star Wars and completely tanked the most popular franchise in history by going "What if Luke...bad?"

Subversion is a mental illness, who other than the biggest queefs on Earth wanted Bumfights Luke Skywalker. Subversion used to mean taking a typical plot/story and doing something original or out of left field with it, now it means saying "this thing you like is shit".

 

[Creep3r]

The new High Republic book by Claudia Gray came out yesterday and genders for characters have changed yet again.

The High Republic: Into the Dark

The High Republic: Into the Dark is a young-adult novel written by Claudia Gray. It was published by Disney–Lucasfilm Press on February 2, 2021 and is part of the Star Wars: The High Republic multimedia publishing program. 1 Publisher's summary 2 Plot summary 2.1 The Great Disaster 2.2 The space...

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Its like they're switching genders with each new release at this point. How long until they reveal that the High Republic was also a time of gender liberty?

Anyway, a Disney shill I know is already reading the book and he claims its "just like Harry Potter!" I guess the author really did make the MC a Hermione knockoff. The book reveals the origin of the weed monsters destroying the galaxy. Apparently the jedi MC, LeoxisGay and their black sidekick gf found an old space station which is the same one Snoke had in the shitty Kylo Ren comics. There they find four "sith" statues which they open and out come the weed monsters who then spread havoc and force everyone to flee. They then begin carnage across the galaxy and whatnot and the MCs feel guilty about it. So they're basically weed demons that were sealed away by the Sith for being too dangerous even for them and that's it. Nothing else then? Alright...

And it looks like Disney just slightly recanonized the Jedi Exile from KOTOR 2 in their HR book...

Surik

Surik was an entity referred to in the exclamation "Surik's blade!" During the High Republic Era, the Trandoshan Jedi Master Sskeer used the exclamation when he and fellow Jedi Terec fell under attack from a Nihil marauder while exploring the wreckage of a Hutt starship.1 Surik was mentioned in...

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Much like with Revan and Tenebrous, its only a mention. But it does make me worried that their KOTOR port/remake/whatever will indeed have a High Republic tie-in to try and boost the appeal of their new multimedia crap. There was another KOTOR reference where they mentioned the Kolto healing agent which was the predecessor to Bacta in the KOTOR era.

The new HR comic that came out today also recanonized Sedri, the planet of the primitive pinniped-based species from the original SW: TRPG from back in the 80s.

I'm actually curious as to how a huge Disney shill I know will respond to this since he shat on them during the Disney retcon, but knowing him, he'll probably claim he loves it, just like how he used to shit on Dark Empire but then loved IX for the exact same reasons he hated DE. There are some other recanonizations but they're all just throwaway namedrops, like most everything in Disney except Thrawn, which is for the best considering how they could fuck it up.

 

[SuiSui1]

@Admiral Mantoid Sounds like they just went with a chinese knock-off of the Flood from Halo.

 

[Creep3r]

@Admiral Mantoid Sounds like they just went with a chinese knock-off of the Flood from Halo.

One of the early leaks for High Republic claimed that the Sith Gods would play a part in HR. Maybe they'll steal that idea from Halo too and make the Dengrir the remnants of a Gravemind knockoff which will either be a shitty Disney OC or a bastardized version of Typhojem or Abeloth.

 

[Mississippi Motorboater]

The new High Republic book by Claudia Gray came out yesterday and genders for characters have changed yet again.

The High Republic: Into the Dark

The High Republic: Into the Dark is a young-adult novel written by Claudia Gray. It was published by Disney–Lucasfilm Press on February 2, 2021 and is part of the Star Wars: The High Republic multimedia publishing program. 1 Publisher's summary 2 Plot summary 2.1 The Great Disaster 2.2 The space...

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Its like they're switching genders with each new release at this point. How long until they reveal that the High Republic was also a time of gender liberty?

I legit thought this was a joke or hyperbole for the bad character designs or something, but no...you're right. This actually happened.

Y'know, I was in the middle of reading FOTJ: Allies the other day, a book which, at the time, was blasted for having a wealth of typo's and continuity errors, the largest number in any EU work up to that point and subsequently bashed by fans. A lot of them pointed at this as the example of the EU being overrun by incompetent editors and writers, and the continuity was starting to crack. But looking back at them, a lot of these errors are things like mixing up the Jade's Fire with the Jade's Shadow, or mispelling names, or calling the Yuuzhan Vong War the "Yuuzhan Vong Wars", or making painfully redundant remarks like "Hutts don't have feet." Negligent, sure, but far from the worst thing ever. But people acted like this was evidence of the books starting to flounder in quality.

And yet, here we are, in the glossy "Everything-Is-Canon" Canon, where a writer just changes a character's entire gender and runs with that inaccuracy for an entire book.

I don't ever want to fucking hear about the EU being an "irredeemable mess filled with contradictions and retcons". This shit is incompetent to the point of being farcical.

 

[SuiSui1]

It's still so funny that pseuds took over Star Wars and completely tanked the most popular franchise in history by going "What if Luke...bad?"

Subversion is a mental illness, who who other than the biggest queefs on Earth wanted Bumfights Luke Skywalker. Subversion used to mean taking a typical plot/story and doing something original or out of left field with it, now it means saying "this thing you like is shit".

Which is probably why the Disney shills had their panties in a bunch when Luke appeared in the Mandalorian. To have a Luke that fought and use force powers instead of some space bum who moped that he "failed" is as alien to them as a good story.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

It's still so funny that pseuds took over Star Wars and completely tanked the most popular franchise in history by going "What if Luke...bad?"

Subversion is a mental illness, who who other than the biggest queefs on Earth wanted Bumfights Luke Skywalker. Subversion used to mean taking a typical plot/story and doing something original or out of left field with it, now it means saying "this thing you like is shit".

They spent $4 billion dollars to buy the rights to Luke Skywalker, only to tell everyone that he's shit and people should instead like their own fanfic Mary Sue characters. It really goes to show you the mental state of America's elite. They can't even pull off a Hasbro/Bayformers thing and make the characters look cool so they can mooch off the cool factor and make wazillions of dollars.

It's like giving bad fanfic writers billions of dollars to waste. If only their stockholders could actually reign them in.

I mean, if I did end up buying Star Wars, I would have no problems introducing my own characters into the mix, but I would at least make them equal or even subservient to the OG cast. Kind of like how Jaden Korr was treated in Jedi Academy: no matter how powerful he/she became, Jaden was always subservient to Luke, and the most he/she can do is beat up Luke's pet Chuck Norris lookalike, Kyle Katarn.

 

[Cyril Sneer]

Just to add to what @Cyril Sneer said about Lucas post-PT, he was actually setting the bulk of his sights on TV, not film. Star Wars Underworld was the next big project he wanted to spearhead simultaneously with TCW (with one show aimed at children, and another at adults). With the saga itself being finished, he was more inclined to tell "offshoot-stories" in the same universe.

It just never came about because, at the time it was announced, 2007-2009, producing a show with the kind of cinematic, breakthrough SFX that Lucas was striving for would be prohibitively expensive, so he decided to repeat his tactics from the late 80's and 90's and just let the technology catch up so it would be a much cheaper endeavor.

Unfortunately, the sale to Disney happened before it could ever materialize, so it only exists as story treatments by its initial showrunners like Ron D. Moore.

Interesting. Are we talking about tard-wrangled, DS9-era "It's Only a Paper Moon" Ron Moore here, or unfiltered, NuBSG-era "The Captain's Hand" Ron Moore?

This. Even in the unlikelihood that they actually are utilizing the Vong in their shitty canon, it makes zero difference to me. If they lack the cultural history, brutalistic warrior culture, misguided religious fanaticism, and immunity from the Force, then they aren't the Yuuzhan Vong in anything but name and shallow licensing. They're imposters. Infidels. Brenzlit bar'o...timid little meat maggots, as the Vong would call them.

Not to mention that a good chunk of the Vong's appeal was that the species was full of memorable and intriguing characters (such as Tsavong Lah, Harrar, and Nen Yim)...something that the current hacks at LFL already struggle to do with fucking humans.

God, I do miss the Yuuzhan Vong and their wonderful cast of weirdos. That moment where the devout and introspective Czulkang Lah realizes that he's been fatally outmaneuvered by the GFFA and takes a quiet last moment to say goodbye to his (brutal and ruthless) son via villip just before his flagship is destroyed still gets me every time...

Its been happening with SW: High Republic's community too. If its not suspiciously corporate-approved shilling, its claims that all the dislikes and criticism HR has been receiving is from the alt-right terrorists... yes because that is the top issue on "terrorist" and right wingers lists, the sabotage of a mediocre multimedia project.

Citizen, in the Current Year, it is mandatory to enjoy corporate pablum written by committee. Criticism is a hate crime.

Oh, and one more thing about the Rakata: the in-game Codex for TOR has this to say about their technology:

The ancient Rakata combined proficiency with the Force with a mastery of technology and bioengineering. Massive weapons of war–such as the Star Forge, a space station powered by the dark side and capable of manufacturing whole fleets–were among their largest-scale achievements, but not every Rakata creation was so grandiose. Rakata mind traps are capable of containing the psyche of an individual in a virtual environment. Creatures bred and enhanced by Rakata life-shapers can survive both hard vacuum and baradium explosives. Rakata droids possess weaponry capable of breaking apart most forms of matter at the atomic level. Rakata relics–even nonfunctional ones–are desperate sought after by those few scientists and archaeologists aware of their existence. Urban legends among smuggling rings tell of ancient devices that wreak havoc on their owners, and both Imperial Intelligence and the Strategic Information Service monitor these rumors with interest. One stray Rakata artifact can change the course of history.

So I guess BioWare still thinks that their pants-less turdlords are hot shit, despite that most of their tech should realistically have been rendered as obsolete as flint axes long ages before any of the Old Republic games took place.

I've posted before: TPM should have been a TV mini series that had time to explain all the shit going down.
A punchier AOTC should have been Episode 1, episode 2 should have been a climatic portion of the Clone Wars that foreshadowed Anakin's fall & Palpatine's machinations, and Episode 3 should have been the birth of the Empire and Vader; How the Republic became the Empire and how Anakin Skywalker became Vader.

So, basically Game of Thrones before Game of Thrones? I guess that really would have been a game-changer at the time...

Again, logically, I'm not faulting him for taking a step back. Hell, after almost a decade on a single trilogy, I'm not faulting Harrison Ford for trying to convince Lucas to kill off Solo in ROTJ.

I DO fault Lucas for not giving us something other than the Holiday Special with the OG cast. He didn't want to pull attention away from the PT and felt betrayed by the fans after the PT's got a lot of negative reaction, so I can see why he didn't. But he could have given us something.

The Holiday Special came out well before the OT had wrapped up, though, or are you referring specifically to televised SW content?

Hell, give us Shadows of the Empire the animated series.

I think another thing to consider is that, to fans.... Hamil is Luke, Ford is Solo, Fisher is Leia and there is no other way it can be. You can't recast Luke (except to a weird digital doppleganger) - that is who Luke is to fans.
But to Lucas, Luke is a character who was just played by Hamil. Lucas had a character in his head, and Hamil was the person he found at that time who was closest to the character in his head. This is why there's no issue in Lucas' mind about editing out Sebastian Shaw from ROTJ - that was never Anakin, that was just the closest he could find at the time.

Do you think fans would accept an animated Han, Luke and Leia, in an animated series, or series of features?

Also there's no way Ziro is the "First Gay" of Star Wars. Juhani in 2003's KOTOR is a carpet muncher.

Technically, I think it might be Moff Tol Getelles from Barbara Hambly's 1997 novel Planet of Twilight (which, coincidentally, features a prominent, and rather memorable Hutt, Beldorian the Splendid), Getelles being a rather craven character whom Admiral Daala contemptuously describes as a "jumped-up catamite."

Unless we're going by the metric that only men can be defined as "gay" which is utterly stupid.

I like the traditional Catholic position on the matter: there are no homosexual persons, only homosexual acts.

It's still so funny that pseuds took over Star Wars and completely tanked the most popular franchise in history by going "What if Luke...bad?"

Subversion is a mental illness, who who other than the biggest queefs on Earth wanted Bumfights Luke Skywalker. Subversion used to mean taking a typical plot/story and doing something original or out of left field with it, now it means saying "this thing you like is shit".

"Subversion" became lauded for its own sake, not because it was honestly seen as good in and of itself, but because it served as a means of breaking down, discrediting or otherwise throwing doubt on traditional Western ideals of beauty, courage and virtue, ideals very much embodied, as it happens, in the person of Luke Skywalker over the course of Episodes IV to VI. Want to test this explanation? Try and subvert a trope beloved of the Left and see what happens...

I don't ever want to fucking hear about the EU being an "irredeemable mess filled with contradictions and retcons". This shit is incompetent to the point of being farcical.

They'll keep trying to push that narrative, though, because the soul of modern western sociopolitical orthodoxy (of which NuWars is a wonderfully representative example) ultimately rests upon a foundation of continuous gas-lighting.

 

[Creep3r]

Which is probably why the Disney shills had their panties in a bunch when Luke appeared in the Mandalorian. To have a Luke that fought and use force powers instead of some space bum who moped that he "failed" is as alien to them as a good story.

Not surprising. Under Disney they got used to a somewhat clumsy Luke that always failed or needed his friends, stronk women or dumb luck to get by, and struggling whenever such elements weren't around to bail him out. So seeing something close to pre-Disney Luke in the Mando was probably a slap in the face for them. Too bad Mando season 3 is apparently gonna be pure sequel wank, thus destroying any hope for those who thought it would retcon the nucanon, which I doubted but whatever.

Also RK Outpost seems to have done a compilation on the suspicious Kenobi production.

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I still can't believe the asshats in charge decided to redo the initial ideas and do away with the og scripts.

 

[Cyril Sneer]

Not surprising. Under Disney they got used to a somewhat clumsy Luke that always failed or needed his friends, stronk women or dumb luck to get by, and struggling whenever such elements weren't around to bail him out.

Night and day, my dudes.

Also RK Outpost seems to have done a compilation on the suspicious Kenobi production.

New Obi Wan Series Update Could Have HUGE Impact On The Mandalorian Season 3

Ewan McGregor gives an update on the Star Wars Obi Wan Kenobi Series that could have big implications for the news about Mandalorian Season 3Subscribe to my ...

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I still can't believe the asshats in charge decided to redo the initial ideas and do away with the og scripts.

Well, this is coming from the same gaggle of corporate geniuses who revamped the Disneyland Star Wars attraction from Mos Eisley to generic NuWars strip-mall, right?

*edit*

Also, on the topic of Disney shenanigans, I was just now subjected to a YouTube add for WandaVision featuring the tag-line "The Universe is Expanding" and I can't help but think that I've heard tell of some sort of "expanded universe" somewhere before...