ContraPoints / William Nicholas Parrott / Natalie Wynn Parrott / Nykytyne2 - GamerGhazi Cannibalism Victim, Youtube "Intellectual"

[protomartyr]

Bingo. If you look at troon poster boys like Chris-Chan, Brianna Wu, Luke Lockhart, and Jake Alley, you'll see men that failed as men, and coped by putting on a dress (and even chopping off their cock) in hopes that they can "start over" as women.

Five short years ago the trans poster boy was a former Olympic gold medalist worth $100 million. The slippery slope is real.

 

[fistfulloffeathers]

The funny thing being that these plebs who work harder and have less than she does are infinitely more happy than she will ever be.

I once worked at a rich persons summer camp, not one millionaire from parent to children to the camp owners were happy, all they did was moan, they were all on anti depressants, adhd drugs, the parents barely spoke to each other. kinda made me appreciate my working class background

 

[Montalbane]

I once worked at a rich persons summer camp, not one millionaire from parent to children to the camp owners were happy, all they did was moan, they were all on anti depressants, adhd drugs, the parents barely spoke to each other. kinda made me appreciate my working class background

If you're poor in spirit but rich in material wealth you're going to become a shell of a man.
Which I think is the modus operandi for every troon.
Somewhat wealthy men who never addressed the deeper issues in their lives and so they go down a spiral of poor choices.
From porn addiction to trooning out to the every shallow thing they can think.

 

[Nykysnottrans]

OK, I went back into the thread, and here's another relevant date to the Nyk/Oliver troonmance:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/contra...lie-wynn-parrott-nykytyne2.34349/post-3485856

https://kiwifarms.st/attachments/contra3-png.478703/

Here Nyk tweeted that he was going to VidCon 2018. This was the VidCon where he ghosted Youtuber Brittany Simon in favour of dick-chasing Oliver, who was at the con (I believe this was Oliver's first VidCon and he went there specifically to meet Nyk and other BreadTubers). In other words, Nyk and Oliver were together in public at VidCon 2018. There has got to be pictures of this meeting here on KF (or anywhere else), because I distinctly remember seeing those pictures, they just weren't posted in this thread (or I haven't been able to find them here). Does anyone remember those pics of Nyk and Oliver at VidCon 2018? Do you have any idea where I might find those? (Maybe the Ellis thread?) If I recall, Jenny Nicholson and some other female Youtuber in a period dress were in those VidCon 2018 pictures with Nyk and Oliver.

I posted these videos about narcissists dating narcissists in the BreadTube thread, I would encourage y'all to have a look at these too. I swear, it's like they were made to describe Nyk and Oliver's relationship:

Spoiler: Explaining the narc4narc relationship dynamic & the role of TRA as a decoy

What if both people in a romance are narcissists? | Are narcissists attracted to each other?

So what you have going on with Nyk and Oliver is presumably a form of "convergence". Nyk troons out first and Oliver joins him later.

How narcissists react when they realize they are in a relationship with a narcissist

"The fantasies can help a couple meet each other's goals, because the fantasies can align."

For me, it's like this video was made to explain what's going on with Nyk and Oliver. With one difference: because Nyk and Oliver are now both troons and TRAs, they can use TERFs at their common enemy to deflect any narcissistic antagonism they might feel towards each other. By focussing all that antagonism on TERFs, they let each other off the hook. It's merely a deflector though, and they might come to blows eventually.

Two Narcissists in a Relationship

"The relationship could last for ever, but they are going to be cheating on each other. They could stay to each other forever and just cheat on each other forever. But they're never gonna have a healthy relationship. It's a very sick and unhealthy relationship. And people think: they're gonna last forever because they are the same breed."

Only these queer troons will call their cheating "poly" and try to rationalize it by stroaking their superior ego: "Oh, I am not jealous like those normies over there, I am sooo much more advanced than that."

And this video explains why Nyk and Oliver secretly reconnected in private so they could coordinate their videos to be a two-pronged media attack on TERFLandia under the guise of Oliver's coming-out:

Narcissists love secrets. It's a little weapon they can take out down the road, it makes them feel like they're kinda getting away with something. It gives them a sense of power. It fuels their grandiosity.(...) The struggle with narcissists, many many times when they stay in touch with an ex, it's often done on the down low. It's very secretive. It's hidden. They'll often deny it. So you're often being gaslighted. It can feel confusing. They'll downplay it, all the mental games.

These are the videos 4chan should go and watch.

 

[berenstain]

I take it all back @Rekkington and @Troonwhisperer, /tttt/ was spreading fake news it got to me. What more can one expect from a group of insecure hons? Olly is Chad. It's indisputable.

Nick has repeatedly called Oliver a "chad" and "hot" in youtube comments, on twitter, etc., especially in early-mid 2019, which would have been about the peak of their relationship. Nick lives in a fantasy where she thinks of himself as a petite bio-girl despite being a lanky twink, so any man who is 0.5 cm taller than him with a slightly higher BMI is a giant giga chad. There is no doubt that in Nick's mind, Oliver was the ideal male partner. He was accepting and unashamed of his girl-dick, into the same kink shit, a dom, and, at least on the outside, a masculine guy who affirmed his "womanhood". He totally aligns with Shame's Chad in this respect.

The timeline of the relationship provided by Nykysnottrans lines up with Oliver's last relationship. In the summer of 2018 Oliver broke up with his "abusive" live-in BDSM girlfriend (who paid his half the rent) and then immediately Nick pursues him at Vidcon and they start working on projects together. I don't buy the theory that Olly was was just skinwalking Nick and stealing his video/editing style. They were in a relationship and he learned those skills from the source himself.

Your trans gf dumps you one year ago. Realize you are a woman one year ago. It's almost like these two are connected.

All the weird behavior between the two, the total shutdown of all personal questions in Olly's stream today (which was just him gloating and feeding his ego), and the "I'm not even a Natalie Wynn" comment was just too much. He won't even mention gender dysphoria. Olly's becoming his ex. Many such cases in transwoman/bi cismale relationships.

 

[Nykysnottrans]

There is no doubt that in Nick's mind, Oliver was the ideal male partner.

Yes, and I suspect it's because Nyk saw Oliver as the perfect male version of himself. You've seen how many of Oliver's fans were crying over his transition, saying they saw Oliver as an example of "wholesome masculinity"? I suspect Nyk was one of those guys who saw Oliver as an example of wholesome masculinity, only Nyk did so for entirely selfish reasons. Nyk looked at Oliver and probably thought to himself: "This is who I could've been had I not been a drug-addicted alcoholic wreck.". But Nyk had to go and "destroy something beautiful".

He was accepting and unashamed of his girl-dick, into the same kink shit, a dom, and, at least on the outside, a masculine guy who affirmed his "womanhood".

Why do you think Nyk did that Livestream where he made sure to mention that he went to the UK with a bag full of BDSM sex toys, making sure to specify bringing along his enema kit? OK, most of that stuff got confiscated by UK customs, but I'm sure that was a great impetus for them to visit some sex shops together, or to do some online sex toy shopping together, all good fun. The fact that Nyk went to the UK with a bag full of sex toys to me indicated that they had planned for this to be a fuck trip. They had discussed and negotiated having sex beforehand. Hell, if that chatlog was right and "Manuel" was Oliver visiting Nyk in Baltimore, you can guess what they had been doing already in Baltimore.

I don't buy the theory that Olly was was just skinwalking Nick and stealing his video/editing style. They were in a relationship and he learned those skills from the source himself.

Exactly, when Nyk was in the UK, he helped Oliver with his videos and was credited as his make-up artist. If Nyk had any objections to Oliver copying "his" style, he could've voiced those objections back then, directly to Oliver himself. (BTW, go and watch the movie The Neon Demon to see where Nyk stole this kind of lighting from, the specifically mentioned this movie as an inspiration in a Livestream at the time.)

Your trans gf dumps you one year ago. Realize you are a woman one year ago. It's almost like these two are connected.

They are, watch the video by Dr Grande I posted. It's called "convergence". It's when the more advanced narcissist brings the emerging narcissist up to his level so they can operate together.

and then immediately Nick pursues him (at Vidcon?)

I personally suspect Nyk started pursuing Oliver before they met at VidCon 2018, but I suspect it was mainly love-bombing over the internet until they could meet in person months later. I suspect most of this initial love-bombing must've happened over private Livestreams & calls. But Nyk being the narcissist he is, he couldn't keep the relationship private. He had to show off his wholesome masculine boyfriend to everyone who would notice, because Nyk wanted to prove that he was capable of dating cis men as a non-passing transwoman. Nyk had to prove that he was as capable of catching a trannie chaser as any Blaire White HSTS out there. Oliver happily went along with this because he was in an unhappy relationship with a violent alcoholic, so Nyk's online alcoholism must've seened preferable by comparison to his Oliver's cis girlfriend lashing out at him in his own home.

(BTW, if that woman - who Oliver described as being "very off-line"- has noticed what is happening to her ex-boyfriend and that other American trannie he was spending a lot of time Livestreaming with while she was out at work, OMG, she must be doing the happy dance right now, realizing she escaped a bullet.)

 

[ProtoParrot]

Wanting to get your breasts lopped off for aesthetics and cutting in line in front of cancer patients?

Sounds like there's... Noah Halpin her.

I recently saw this weirdo illness faker tranny and wheelchair user whining about medication they had to pay a pittance for (as a canadian) while cancer patients get it for free. I don't know what kind of baffling fucked up logic someone can use to whine about "perks" that cancer patients get but shit is fucking infuriating. My mom has been dealing with cancer for the last 2 years and I can only imagine these cunts saying some shit like this to her, she'd fuck them up.

 

[Radon Exposure Tea Partie]

A reason why people got so excited over the mere possibility of drama between Contra and Oliver was the implications it had on lefttube. They're both the most popular channels in the group, and animosity between them could trigger some sort of breadtube civil war where everyone is choosing a side and sperging out against the other. This would also be the definite collapse and death of the clique, something I'm sure many of us would like to see. But, Breadtube isn't going to die just yet.

Contra is also very secretive, and he rarely interacts with his audience after the post-cancelling stress disorder he received after Opulence. So outside of his sparse videos and occasional tweet, we simply speculate many of lefttube's inner workings. Hence the excitement over the tranny-tit groping rumor, or the deleted tweets.

 

[Rekkington]

I take it all back @Rekkington and @Troonwhisperer, /tttt/ was spreading fake news it got to me. What more can one expect from a group of insecure hons? Olly is Chad. It's indisputable..

Don't worry, we are on the same side: living in hell, following all of this.

 

[Troonwhisperer]

I take it all back @Rekkington and @Troonwhisperer, /tttt/ was spreading fake news it got to me. What more can one expect from a group of insecure hons? Olly is Chad. It's indisputable.

Nick has repeatedly called Oliver a "chad" and "hot" in youtube comments, on twitter, etc., especially in early-mid 2019, which would have been about the peak of their relationship. Nick lives in a fantasy where she thinks of himself as a petite bio-girl despite being a lanky twink, so any man who is 0.5 cm taller than him with a slightly higher BMI is a giant giga chad. There is no doubt that in Nick's mind, Oliver was the ideal male partner. He was accepting and unashamed of his girl-dick, into the same kink shit, a dom, and, at least on the outside, a masculine guy who affirmed his "womanhood". He totally aligns with Shame's Chad in this respect.

The timeline of the relationship provided by Nykysnottrans lines up with Oliver's last relationship. In the summer of 2018 Oliver broke up with his "abusive" live-in BDSM girlfriend (who paid his half the rent) and then immediately Nick pursues him at Vidcon and they start working on projects together. I don't buy the theory that Olly was was just skinwalking Nick and stealing his video/editing style. They were in a relationship and he learned those skills from the source himself.

Your trans gf dumps you one year ago. Realize you are a woman one year ago. It's almost like these two are connected.

All the weird behavior between the two, the total shutdown of all personal questions in Olly's stream today (which was just him gloating and feeding his ego), and the "I'm not even a Natalie Wynn" comment was just too much. He won't even mention gender dysphoria. Olly's becoming his ex. Many such cases in transwoman/bi cismale relationships.

I totally get it that it is hard to believe that Olly was considered to be a chad from the woke perspective. But as Nykysnottrans pointed out, there are just too many coincidences that Ollie is "chad", even though I was unsure about it sometimes as well.
I watched a video from the Distributist yesterday because I knew he will say something about Abighouls totally genuine transition. And he pointed something out that I totally forgot about: In one of his older videos the Distributist pointed out that there are many white people in BreadTube, but strangely enough no cis-het men, since everyone identified either as trans, non-binary or at least bisexual. BreadTube simps stormed to him and told him that he forget Ollie. Ollie WAS CONSIDERED to be an ideal masculine figure on BreadTube that balanced his problematic cis-het existence with the plead of annoying pseudo-oppressed minorities. Keep in mind this is before Ollie came out as bisexual. But it's totally true that Ollie was considered to be a very handsome masculine man for leftists. This was quite surprising for me then, because for me he wasn't very handsome (I'm not saying ugly, but come on) and rather effeminated. But then I had to remind myself that when your cesspool includes people like Vaush or non-binary ThoughtSlime, your standard of masculinity must be different than for most people. This take didn't age well, of course, because modern leftism just doesn't offer men anything and it's no wonder that we have so many leftist men trooning out. The Distributist also noticed that Ollie's transitioning was very ingenuine and actually appeared to something more of a political uprising than an genuine dysphoric experience (Maybe The Distribitust read a thread here, because I know he reads Kiwi Farms). He especially talked about Ollie's euphoric, totally overblown happiness for trooning out, which just seems so desparate. Nyk is probably the best example that trooning out won't solve anything, at worst it makes your life even more horrible. After making millions of dollars, buying a manson, getting showered with praise by the MSM, where is Nyk now? He can barely make a video in three months and is addicted by opium.

 

[scathefire]

A reason why people got so excited over the mere possibility of drama between Contra and Oliver was the implications it had on lefttube. They're both the most popular channels in the group, and animosity between them could trigger some sort of breadtube civil war where everyone is choosing a side and sperging out against the other. This would also be the definite collapse and death of the clique, something I'm sure many of us would like to see. But, Breadtube isn't going to die just yet.

Contra is also very secretive, and he rarely interacts with his audience after the post-cancelling stress disorder he received after Opulence. So outside of his sparse videos and occasional tweet, we simply speculate many of lefttube's inner workings. Hence the excitement over the tranny-tit groping rumor, or the deleted tweets.

Yeah, pretty much. Especially since there's no obvious indication as to why they seem to have fallen out after they used to be so constantly involved with each other. If all of this wasn't clearly being kept so hush-hush, there wouldn't be the incentive wildly speculate. Personally, I do think a full-on drama between them would be pretty exciting.

But it's totally true that Ollie was considered to be a very handsome masculine man for leftists. This was quite surprising for me then, because for me he wasn't very handsome (I'm not saying ugly, but come on) and rather effeminated. But then I had to remind myself that when your cesspool includes people like Vaush or non-binary ThoughtSlime, your standard of masculinity must be different than for most people. This take didn't age well, of course, because modern leftism just doesn't offer men anything and it's no wonder that we have so many leftist men trooning out.

That's hilarious, the only reason they considered him masculine was because there was literally no one else. And now that he's gone, they have literally no one! Is that why fanartists draw Vaush like this even though he's a overweight man bun-having schlub?

 

[Icasaracht]

Les Troonserables.

 

[Rekkington]

I totally get it that it is hard to believe that Olly was considered to be a chad from the woke perspective. But as Nykysnottrans pointed out, there are just too many coincidences that Ollie is "chad", even though I was unsure about it sometimes as well.
I watched a video from the Distributist yesterday because I knew he will say something about Abighouls totally genuine transition. And he pointed something out that I totally forgot about: In one of his older videos the Distributist pointed out that there are many white people in BreadTube, but strangely enough no cis-het men, since everyone identified either as trans, non-binary or at least bisexual. BreadTube simps stormed to him and told him that he forget Ollie. Ollie WAS CONSIDERED to be an ideal masculine figure on BreadTube that balanced his problematic cis-het existence with the plead of annoying pseudo-oppressed minorities. Keep in mind this is before Ollie came out as bisexual. But it's totally true that Ollie was considered to be a very handsome masculine man for leftists. This was quite surprising for me then, because for me he wasn't very handsome (I'm not saying ugly, but come on) and rather effeminated. But then I had to remind myself that when your cesspool includes people like Vaush or non-binary ThoughtSlime, your standard of masculinity must be different than for most people. This take didn't age well, of course, because modern leftism just doesn't offer men anything and it's no wonder that we have so many leftist men trooning out. The Distributist also noticed that Ollie's transitioning was very ingenuine and actually appeared to something more of a political uprising than an genuine dysphoric experience (Maybe The Distribitust read a thread here, because I know he reads Kiwi Farms). He especially talked about Ollie's euphoric, totally overblown happiness for trooning out, which just seems so desparate. Nyk is probably the best example that trooning out won't solve anything, at worst it makes your life even more horrible. After making millions of dollars, buying a manson, getting showered with praise by the MSM, where is Nyk now? He can barely make a video in three months and is addicted by opium.

Also just a side point here that applies to Contra and the entirety of Breadtube: none of these people know what "chad" is, at least in the context of where it came from. It's interesting to see how in each of these cases they pervert these terms to me solely in reaction to them, like snowflake would mean someone who is not only fragile but thinks they are unique and deserving of attention, now it means someone who is upset at something you did. We can probably go through a whole list of phrases these dopes appropriated and use incorrectly. Apparently they think "salty" means like anybody talking about you at all. "Oh my GOD so I released a video saying that there can be such a thing as ethical child pornograhy and now everybody is super salty about it."
Which is to say, to even figure out what these people are trying to say, you have to make yourself both wrong and boomerbrained.

 

[believe all women]

Also just a side point here that applies to Contra and the entirety of Breadtube: none of these people know what "chad" is, at least in the context of where it came from.

Whenever these people (or their fanbases) talk about memes, it reeks of that kind of awkward, out-of-touch vibe that you get when middle-aged people try to use youth slang. Or when corporations do the same thing. I think the reasons are obvious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2raKf54N0rg

 

[Nykysnottrans]

This was quite surprising for me then, because for me he wasn't very handsome (I'm not saying ugly, but come on)

He's got that buttery smug pudgy-faced look you'd expect from someone who has only been to rich kids' schools his whole life. He has none of the edginess, wordliness or grit I would expect from someone wanting to be a Shakespeare actor. Have you ever read what the theatre was like in that time? It was like a boxing match, a whorehouse and a revolutionary meeting all roled into one. Oliver wouldn't have survived for 5 minutes, yet he thinks he "represents" just because he has the upperclass education to master the lingo.

He especially talked about Ollie's euphoric, totally overblown happiness for trooning out, which just seems so desparate.

Which is exactly what Nyk was tweeting out when he first got on HRT. The oxytocin boost from HRT is hitting them hard.

He can barely make a video in three months and is addicted by opium.

Exactly, and the only thing that gets him out of bed is his ex-boyfriend's Declaration of War Against TERFLandia.

Regarding what I wrote earlier about Oliver meeting Nyk at VidCon 2018, here are people tweeting at Oliver about VidCon:

https://twitter.com/search?q=to%3APhilosophyTube%20VidCon&src=typed_query&f=live

A couple of these tweets were at him and Nyk - including a drawing of Nyk and Oliver together with someone else - indicating they let their audiences know they were attending VidCon together:

Lot of fun hanging out with @ContraPoints and @PhilosophyTube
at vidcon. If you crop the dingus on the right out this drawing should be suitable for framing.

https://twitter.com/Skutchdraws/status/1013910078221639680

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhIhfZtW0AAjJ-4?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

A: https://archive.is/D7mMc

What a fucking ugly drawing. See how Nyk's hand is on Oliver's chest? They were already getting touchy-feely at VidCon, even before Oliver travelled to Baltimore or Nyk to the UK.

Tristan Five-Aces@TristanPEJ
When you go for falafel with @PhilosophyTube

https://twitter.com/tristanpej/status/1010170654174265344

https://twitter.com/TristanPEJ/status/1010170654174265344/photo/1

Wear a suit and buy @ContraPoints a nice corsage.

https://twitter.com/infimumsupremum/status/1005918701995151360

@ContraPoints well? The revolution starts at vidcon I guess

https://twitter.com/coffee_lad/status/1009289063973601281

@ContraPoints It's fine, especially since VidCon meant you got to spend some time with @PhilosophyTube who I hope you're making plans to see more of in the future

https://twitter.com/TaraEDbach/status/1016739183879020544

@PhilosophyTube @ContraPoints
now you need to cosplay as Team Rocket for Vidcon.

https://twitter.com/kadmii1/status/1009611634124476419

This is from VidCon 2019, which Oliver did not attend, but high resolution pictures are fun:

https://twitter.com/MrNobre/status/1155669917124874240/photo/1
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAnDp4aVUAAlOXN?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

See what I mean? Nyk next to a man look like a man in a dress with long hair. No FFS is going to fix such a huge manbody, no dress long enough to hide it.

 

[Hoes Mad]

Les Troonserables.
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nigga what the fuck

 

[Yeeted Teet]

But it's totally true that Ollie was considered to be a very handsome masculine man for leftists. This was quite surprising for me then, because for me he wasn't very handsome (I'm not saying ugly, but come on)

He was well-groomed, had a full head of hair, and was a normal weight. He put in a bit of effort, and compared to his peers that made him an Adonis.

 

[NormieCasual]

I know I am a bit late, but I found it really interesting that in her J.K. Rowling video, that Contra basically agreed with gender critical feminists: a woman is more than a feeling. Then she found herself in a difficult situation about how to argue transwomen are women. Her solution simply was to not talk about it. Such a philosopher who abandons ideas if they are scary.

With regards to PT being a chad, I simply think that breadtube simply doesn't know what a hot man is, mostly since they are rare in that sphere. Who do they have? H.Bomber, Quiton, Shuan, Vaush, Thought Slime. Compared to them, PT is handsome, a gentleman, has great work ethics, a real package deal. He is probably the most Chad out of the bunch.

 

[scathefire]

I wonder if Contra still reads this thread. I know that it was basically confirmed that he did at one point (i.e. tweeting about his cellulite immediately after someone said that he had cellulite), but I'm willing to bet that he doesn't anymore. If I'm wrong and you're still reading this, hi Contra! Your videos used to be genuinely interesting and subversive back when anti-SJWs had much more control of the discourse, but nowadays you seem to be making content that has less and less substance while gradually becoming longer and longer. What the hell happened? What's stopping you from being more interesting nowadays? Well, I guess I know what the answer is; you've already been eaten alive by your audience a couple times for doing several problematic things and it's much easier to just go with what's acceptable as opposed to constantly pushing boundaries. Sad.

 

[Troonwhisperer]

He was well-groomed, had a full head of hair, and was a normal weight. He put in a bit of effort, and compared to his peers that made him an Adonis.

Pa, fair enough. If you lower education standards enough a retard is also a genius, I guess.

I wonder if Contra still reads this thread. I know that it was basically confirmed that he did at one point (i.e. tweeting about his cellulite immediately after someone said that he had cellulite), but I'm willing to bet that he doesn't anymore. If I'm wrong and you're still reading this, hi Contra! Your videos used to be genuinely interesting and subversive back when anti-SJWs had much more control of the discourse, but nowadays you seem to be making content that has less and less substance while gradually becoming longer and longer. What the hell happened? What's stopping you from being more interesting nowadays? Well, I guess I know what the answer is; you've already been eaten alive by your audience a couple times for doing several problematic things and it's much easier to just go with what's acceptable as opposed to constantly pushing boundaries. Sad.

Of course he does. Narcissists like Nyk love to read about themselves, even if it hurts. I don't think, however, that he's reading here regularly. I imagine that he has maybe once or twice a year a low (lower than usual) point in his life and can't resist hate reading.