Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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Idk anything about srs (besides it being weird as fuck), but is there any sort of brain surgery option? I'm guessing not because I have never heard of it. But there has to be a better way than filleting and inverting a penis then proclaiming the problem solved. I know they'd just reeeee and compare it to a lobotomy but what they're doing now should be called a lobottomy.
We don't understand enough about the brain to do anything like that. The term for lobotomy was "a human salvaging effort" for a reason.
Ok, let's say I'm a surgeon and I've published articles about a new method I've come up with for removing lung tumors. A guy comes to me with a bad lung cancer that isn't operable by normal means and hires me to perform this new procedure. I have him sign informed consent papers because it's an experimental procedure and there are no guarantees.

He gets to the OR, I have him put under, and then, instead of doing anything to his lungs, I amputate both of his legs.

Does he have standing to sue me? Or can I just say "lol informed consent"?

As far as I understand, any medical procedure should be done with clear goals that are understood by both the doctor and patient, as long as the patient has their mental faculties. How badly must a procedure miss the mark in order for there to be a cause of action, even if there's informed consent?

The quacks tell their patients that they're getting genitals that are just like those of the opposite sex. For MtFs, they'll get a clitoris and labia and it'll lubricate itself and won't collapse after the stitches break. FtMs probably expect a penis that won't get gangrene and they also have horrific consequences from using T, like uterine cancer, autoimmune diseases, etc. And Lupron is a whole other can of worms. How many of the doctors prescribing it ten minutes after meeting a 12-year old girl who doesn't like her body tell her that it'll give her osteoporosis by the time she's 20?

The "proper" outcomes for these treatments aren't even clearly defined, since there's no standard of care. It's clear that in many cases there are results that 1) the patient absolutely doesn't want and 2) the provider knows are highly likely. Shouldn't a smart lawyer be able to build a case from this? Or is informed consent a blank check to medically troll people? "Sorry about your legs, bro."

I've commented this before but the idea of "do no harm" is replaced with something called the four pillars of medicine, and these are taught to every doctor and medical student..

the basics are medicine must be 1. Informed. 2. Able to consent. 3. Given the highest quality care possible and desired. and 4. The cure cannot be worse than the disease.

In your example removing legs isn't included as the legs were never involved in that surgery. If you told him you would be cutting of his legs and you agreed, then you would be guilty of 3 and 4.

The problem arises with the idea of "human salvage". I've mentioned this before, but the whole reason lobotomy was allowed and even encouraged was the idea that without it, the victims would be worse off. There are even examples of kids being actually helped by lobotomies, although this is mostly because the brain could barely repair itself if it happened while young.

So long as doctors are told that the consequence of not getting surgery is lifelong depression and suicide, they will continue to be pressured to do this and they will have no moral reason not to. After all if the patient they butchered was going to blow their brains out regardless, the fact they only have to deal with mild sepsis is a huge improvement.
 
Ok, let's say I'm a surgeon and I've published articles about a new method I've come up with for removing lung tumors. A guy comes to me with a bad lung cancer that isn't operable by normal means and hires me to perform this new procedure. I have him sign informed consent papers because it's an experimental procedure and there are no guarantees.

He gets to the OR, I have him put under, and then, instead of doing anything to his lungs, I amputate both of his legs.

Does he have standing to sue me? Or can I just say "lol informed consent"?

As far as I understand, any medical procedure should be done with clear goals that are understood by both the doctor and patient, as long as the patient has their mental faculties. How badly must a procedure miss the mark in order for there to be a cause of action, even if there's informed consent?

The quacks tell their patients that they're getting genitals that are just like those of the opposite sex. For MtFs, they'll get a clitoris and labia and it'll lubricate itself and won't collapse after the stitches break. FtMs probably expect a penis that won't get gangrene and they also have horrific consequences from using T, like uterine cancer, autoimmune diseases, etc. And Lupron is a whole other can of worms. How many of the doctors prescribing it ten minutes after meeting a 12-year old girl who doesn't like her body tell her that it'll give her osteoporosis by the time she's 20?

The "proper" outcomes for these treatments aren't even clearly defined, since there's no standard of care. It's clear that in many cases there are results that 1) the patient absolutely doesn't want and 2) the provider knows are highly likely. Shouldn't a smart lawyer be able to build a case from this? Or is informed consent a blank check to medically troll people? "Sorry about your legs, bro."
Unfortunately I am a video-embedding SPED, so maybe someone can help with archiving/ time stamping this video.

In part 4 of the film 'Dysphoric' there is a section where FtM detransitioners talk about the problems they had getting lawyers to take cases. It's at 13.45. Quite interesting.

 
Unfortunately I am a video-embedding SPED, so maybe someone can help with archiving/ time stamping this video.

In part 4 of the film 'Dysphoric' there is a section where FtM detransitioners talk about the problems they had getting lawyers to take cases. It's at 13.45. Quite interesting.

TL;DR for this for people who don't want to watch a video is that trans healthcare is experimental. There is no standard or baseline of care, making it practically impossible for anyone to bring a malpractice case even in cases of gross medical negligence.
 
and 4. The cure cannot be worse than the disease.
What if the "disease" in question involves committing suicide if you don't get the procedure? Granted, at this point, you'll need a shrink; but is it worth it having something that's prone to getting infected or sealing itself, a few years later?
 
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What if the "disease" in question involves committing suicide if you don't get the procedure? Granted, at this point, you'll need a shrink; but is it worth it having something that's prone to getting infected or sealing itself, a few years later?
Drug withdrawal also causes a high amount of suicide and we still don't let the junkie have all the drug he wants.
 
I'm crossposting from the sideshow thread, copying @President Jeb Bush post.

FOUND something fascinating. The first sex change was actually performed in 1903, using the penile inversion method (something the media claim was invented in the 1950s!). On a 'pseudohermaphrodite', this person had a strange appearance from what is listed in this 1903 medical journal. Fascinating as fuck honestly.
Oh and within the notes pages, it claims that someone had done an operation similar in the 1880s. (wow)

I warn it's a fairly big article but is so interesting and there's some images, that are sorta gross but quite eye-opening.

I have re-formatted it into paragraphs for easier reading!

The patient was referred to me February 28, 1903, by the family physician living in one of the suburbs of New York, and gave the following history;

E.C., aged twenty years, born in New York State, of Irish parentage; father and mother both living, also four brothers and four sisters, all of whom, as far as she knows, are strong and well and normal in every way.

Patient has never menstruated; was strong and well till four years ago; weighed 120 pounds, but has gradually lost flesh year by year, and now weighs only 99 pounds.

She was educated in the public schools and graduated from the grammar school two years ago ; has a weak stomach and occasional attacks of indigestion.

She has never had any girl love affairs or been attracted passionately by any girl, but has been attracted by boys; says that "that thing" (the clitoris) began to develop to a noticeable degree when the hair began to develop on the pubes, fourteen to fifteen years of age; played with it some at that time and experienced pleasurable sensations therefrom; has erections at times and at first feels that it is pleasant, but eventually dis appoints and annoys her; wants to get rid of “the growth.”

In deportment the patient was somewhat shy and modest, and gave the impression that she did not care to reveal the facts she had stated, but was determined to get relief, and had decided to go through whatever ordeal was necessary to secure it. She came to my office alone, and heavily veiled to conceal the growth of hair upon her lip, face, and chin. In appearance she showed feminine taste in dress, which was neat and in good style.

PHYSICAL EXAMINATION.

- Height, 5 feet 17 / 8 inches.
- Weight, 100 pounds at present.
- Gait, feminine in character.
- Voice, feminine, with occasional male tendency.
- Hair growth on the head coarse, abundant, and black; eyebrows black and heavy, meet between the eyes
hair on upper lip well developed; on chin well developed; also strong growth in front of ears to angle of jaw. Growth is sparse between angle and chin. Chin is square and jaw heavy, otherwise face is female type; features are small; eyes are brown.
- Arms not well developed, hair growth abundant.
- Hands medium in size ; fingers square and strong , with large joints .
- Neck larger than normal for a female.
- Mammary Gland . No mammary development; neither fat nor glandular tissue, strictly male type.
- Areola dark brown and about 14 inch in extent from nipple. It is encircled by small black hairs.
- Abdomen. Longitudinal hair line well developed from one inch above umbilicus to pubic hair, which is very thick. There is no transverse abdominal hair line.
- Spine .No deformity. Lower Extremities. Hair growth excessive.
- Pelvis flaring . Measurements : Interspinal , 271 / 2 cm . ; inter crestal , 281 / 2 cm . ; external conjugate , 18 cm .
- Heart, normal.
- Lungs, normal.

On examining the genitals the enlarged clitoris with prominent glans, as shown in Fig . 1, obtruded itself and became erectile on the slightest touch.

It was surrounded with a corona of hair and surmounted on the mons veneris with a luxuriant tuft.

An excessive growth of hair covered all the surrounding parts and ex tended down on to the thighs.

The clitoris measured three inches in length and three and a half inches in circumference.

The fore skin could be drawn forward on to the glans , but retracted strongly in erection.

The clitoris was restricted in its action as in chordee hy a broad frenum, which reached from near the glans down to the under surface of the symphysis and disappeared with in a little opening one - quarter of an inch in diameter, the urogenital cleft.

A narrow strip of mucous membrane ran along the free border of the frenum as in cases of hypospadias . The clitoris was impervious and the meatus urinarius could not be discovered. Below the introitus was a broad perineum reaching to the anus.

The vaginal opening took a Peaslee sound readily to the depth of four and a half inches and the caliber of the canal seemed to enlarge at the distal end . Under bimanual manipulation with finger in the rectum no internal generative organs could be out lined except a cord - like extension from the upper end of the vagina.
(my note - the fuck?)

The patient insisted that “the growth” was a great annoyance, that it made her different from other girls, and she wanted it taken off. When asked if she preferred to be made like a man or woman, said decidedly "a woman.” Accordingly she was sent to the Polyclinic Hospital, and the operation was done March 11, 1903, in the presence of the class and some invited guests.

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Fig . 1 . (ABOVE) - Appearance before operating. The round black spot below the clitoris shows opening to vagina. From its upper border a strip of mucous membrane extended to the glans along the free border of the frenum. Mucous membrane covered the median line of perineum for two inches toward the anus; shows light in the picture.

Operation .
— With the patient under ether and the parts shaved and sterilized, by a little steady pressure I gradually insinuated my little finger into the urogenital cleft to its full length and then the index finger, being careful to dilate* rather than tear.
(*first use of the word dilate in relation to neo-vag?!?!?!)

At the depth of two and a half inches a strong constricting band of dense, resisting tissue was encountered, through which my finger was forced with difficulty. With the tissue put upon the stretch by bearing down with this finger strongly on the perineum two lateral incisions (one on either side) were made with scissors from the outer edge of the canal to and including the constricting band . The depth of these incisions went only through the vaginal sheath.

By firm pressure first with one finger in the urogenital cleft and then with two these incisions were torn deep into the tissues, resisting strands being snipped as they presented. In this way the caliber of the cleft was enlarged to a diameter of two and a half inches.

At this juncture the meatus urinarius was searched for and discovered just under the internal border of the symphysis pubis, and a catheter passed, demonstrated the position of the bladder and the presence of urine.

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Fig. 2. (ABOVE) — The clitoris after removal, the skin having been dissected.

The skin adjacent to the vulva was so harsh and bristled so with hair that it was not available for filling in the lateral gaps in the mucous membrane of the vagina.

The only apparent resource was to allow them to fill up by granulation, when suddenly the thought occurred to me, Why not use the skin covering the clitoris? This was soft and delicate and free from hair.
It was therefore decided upon.
A longitudinal incision was made along the dorsum of the clitoris and another along the ventral surface, and a circular incision just back of the corona of the glans.

These flaps were carefully dissected off down to the base of the clitoris and left attached. The base of the clitoris was transfixed inside the flap with chromic gut and cut away. ( Fig .2.) The flaps of skin with their bases still attached were drawn down into the urogenital cleft and stitched in position on either side by catgut sutures, care being taken to make them reach in as far as possible by dragging down the skin upon the mons veneris and abdomen and holding it in place by firm straps of adhesive plaster passed around under each thigh.

The clitoris measuring three and a half inches in circumference, afforded two flaps, each one and a half inches wide, growing broader at the base.
These together with the anterior and posterior strips of membrane of the cleft made a vaginal canal of goodly proportions. The strip of mucous membrane on the under surface of the frenum was saved, drawn up and stitched to the stump of the clitoris.

The purpose of this was to give support to the urethra and maintain its normal position. It also made a vestibule beneath the stump of the clitoris. The stump was covered with the skin from the mons as it was drawn down by the adhesive plaster.

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Fig.3. (ABOVE) — Glass tube in place during convalescence; the
patient's hand holds the tube. (First dilation!)

There was considerable hemorrhage from the lateral incisions, but no large vessels were incised, and what hemorrhage occurred was controlled by applications of adrenalin chlorid. The vaginal canal was packed moderately full of iodoform gauze, sufficient pressure being made to smooth out the skin flaps and bring their entire surface in contact with the underlying tissue.
(my note - exactly like SRS today, fascinating)

A self - retaining catheter was inserted into the bladder.

The dressings were removed on the fourth day and a glass tube substituted in the vagina to maintain pressure upon the flaps and secure its calibre, as shown in Fig .3.

The entire wound healed! by first intention and the patient left the hospital at the end of four weeks .Fig. 2 shows the exact size of the clitoris after being stripped of skin and removed.

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Fig .4. (ABOVE) - Photograph three weeks after operation.

Fig .4 shows the condition at the end of four weeks. The vagina closed snugly, but readily admitted two fingers and permitted of further dilatation by slight pressure. Later digital and specular examinations revealed a small cervix at the head of the vagina, which took a small sound to the depth of one and three - quarter inches. A small gland could also be made out on the left side, but it had more the feel and shape of an enlarged lymphatic, although it may be a rudimentary ovary


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TLDR - Penile inversion of a hermaphrodite in 1903. That's one for the history books.
Hermaphrodite correction isnt the same as transexual surgery.
 
(Unpopular opinion) I can't feel bad for de-transitioners unless they trooned out as kids. If you're an adult considering surgeries or transition in general, it's on you to do your research. I'm also skeptical of ftm de-transitioners because it feels like they are joining yet another bandwagon. Think about it. Reason why more girls transition nowadays could be due to wanting to fit in. Which (in my opinion) is also why we'll see more of female trannies de-transition. They'll hear some gender critical shit they can't refute and if their transition wasn't a magical cure-all, they'll be tempted to "finally find out the truth and fix what's wrong/join their desisters" to again feel like they belong and that whatever their problem is, they're working on it. What they don't realize is that the main problem is with their obsession with gender/self-obsession, not whether they end up as guys or girls.
My guess is that in maybe 5-7 years when de-transitioning will become more common, a lot of them will start re-transitioning again. Because it's about bad mental health and restless search for identity. So in that sense, I suspect mass detrans even more. It reeks of "I'm not like those BAD trannies, if fact I'm so much better I'm not even trans anymore, see? Will someone love and validate me now that I'm acting rational and stuff?".
 
(Unpopular opinion) I can't feel bad for de-transitioners unless they trooned out as kids. If you're an adult considering surgeries or transition in general, it's on you to do your research. I'm also skeptical of ftm de-transitioners because it feels like they are joining yet another bandwagon. Think about it. Reason why more girls transition nowadays could be due to wanting to fit in. Which (in my opinion) is also why we'll see more of female trannies de-transition. They'll hear some gender critical shit they can't refute and if their transition wasn't a magical cure-all, they'll be tempted to "finally find out the truth and fix what's wrong/join their desisters" to again feel like they belong and that whatever their problem is, they're working on it. What they don't realize is that the main problem is with their obsession with gender/self-obsession, not whether they end up as guys or girls.
My guess is that in maybe 5-7 years when de-transitioning will become more common, a lot of them will start re-transitioning again. Because it's about bad mental health and restless search for identity. So in that sense, I suspect mass detrans even more. It reeks of "I'm not like those BAD trannies, if fact I'm so much better I'm not even trans anymore, see? Will someone love and validate me now that I'm acting rational and stuff?".

I certainly understand this perspective, but teenage years are their own special kind of hard and people tend to gain confidence with age.

I'd say once you get out of high school/college years you develop a lot more internal/personal understanding of yourself and don't lean as hard on outside trends or friend groups. Unfortunately, normal teen shit that would fade with age and experience is now being funneled into lifelong meds and surgeries that you can't discard as easily as black hair dye and eyeliner.
 
(Unpopular opinion) I can't feel bad for de-transitioners unless they trooned out as kids. If you're an adult considering surgeries or transition in general, it's on you to do your research. I'm also skeptical of ftm de-transitioners because it feels like they are joining yet another bandwagon. Think about it. Reason why more girls transition nowadays could be due to wanting to fit in. Which (in my opinion) is also why we'll see more of female trannies de-transition. They'll hear some gender critical shit they can't refute and if their transition wasn't a magical cure-all, they'll be tempted to "finally find out the truth and fix what's wrong/join their desisters" to again feel like they belong and that whatever their problem is, they're working on it. What they don't realize is that the main problem is with their obsession with gender/self-obsession, not whether they end up as guys or girls.
My guess is that in maybe 5-7 years when de-transitioning will become more common, a lot of them will start re-transitioning again. Because it's about bad mental health and restless search for identity. So in that sense, I suspect mass detrans even more. It reeks of "I'm not like those BAD trannies, if fact I'm so much better I'm not even trans anymore, see? Will someone love and validate me now that I'm acting rational and stuff?".
Another factor that's probably going to help with dramatically increasing the number of detransitioners is that the women who transition into men are finally going to find out that being a man isn't actually a magical rocket to riches, respect, and success, and that the white male patriarchy that gives white men anything they want doesn't actually exist, and it actively works against you in the quasi totality of cases today.

They're also going to have an even harder time with it than a normal man would as well, because they're going to jump headlong into the male world as a soy-faced beta twink who won't be able to physically command any respect, but who is still going to be filled with all of the entitlement and expectation for other people to do shit for you a woman has.
 
I certainly understand this perspective, but teenage years are their own special kind of hard and people tend to gain confidence with age.

I'd say once you get out of high school/college years you develop a lot more internal/personal understanding of yourself and don't lean as hard on outside trends or friend groups. Unfortunately, normal teen shit that would fade with age and experience is now being funneled into lifelong meds and surgeries that you can't discard as easily as black hair dye and eyeliner.
I consider teens to be kids. So of course, those shouldn't transition at all. Adults however shouldn't flip-flop every time they are confronted or disliked by someone. There were already cases of retransing so it's probably going to be more common with more detransitioners. Which is pretty ironic/funny, if you realize that's what many genderclits said about increase in transitions.

Another factor that's probably going to help with dramatically increasing the number of detransitioners is that the women who transition into men are finally going to find out that being a man isn't actually a magical rocket to riches, respect, and success, and that the white male patriarchy that gives white men anything they want doesn't actually exist, and it actively works against you in the quasi totality of cases today.

They're also going to have an even harder time with it than a normal man would as well, because they're going to jump headlong into the male world as a soy-faced beta twink who won't be able to physically command any respect, but who is still going to be filled with all of the entitlement and expectation for other people to do shit for you a woman has.
Sure. But if someone troons out hoping they'd suddenly earn more money and achieve more... that's delusional. (Unless you're an mtf athlete :story:)
 
I consider teens to be kids. So of course, those shouldn't transition at all. Adults however shouldn't flip-flop every time they are confronted or disliked by someone. There were already cases of retransing so it's probably going to be more common with more detransitioners. Which is pretty ironic/funny, if you realize that's what many genderclits said about increase in transitions.

I have no doubt that some of these transitioners are absolute asspat-guzzlers who will mold themselves into whatever benefits them at the time. From what I've seen, though, most detransitioners started young enough to be considered children and detransed when they were in their mid to late twenties.

And I'd love to laugh at some of the re-transitioners if you have a few names to share (tranny threads on the farms are massive and sprawling and hard to wade through).
 
Here's my question, legal/medical Kiwis - how feasible is a lawsuit against these butchers? How much cover do they have from "informed consent?" I remember some tranny complaining on Reddit about how he went back to have his surgeon check out his axe wound and asked "Where are my clitoris and labia that you said I would have?" And the doctor was like, "uh, right there," pointing to nothing in particular.

These guys are sold on a myth of "real female genitals" and a promise of parts that simply aren't present in the finished product. Do they have standing to sue? I'm amazed that there hasn't been a significant lawsuit over this already, at least not that I'm aware of. Of course the trans community will do everything in their power to quash it, but regardless. There was that FtM in the UK who camped outside of her butcher's office with protest signs, but still no legal challenge.

It boggles the mind how they can get away with doing this when there's no standard of care and the outcomes seem practically random. The threat of suicide if they don't get the chop is such weak sauce, the statistics suggest the opposite is true.
Few troons have the financial resources to take on a doctor's insurer. Even if they banded together, there are multiple surgeons and different techniques involved.

Doctors are obliged to meet or exceed the accepted standard of care for treating a patient, but there isn't really any defined surgical standard of care for SRS or any peak body of doctors to create one.
 
Here's my question, legal/medical Kiwis - how feasible is a lawsuit against these butchers? How much cover do they have from "informed consent?" I remember some tranny complaining on Reddit about how he went back to have his surgeon check out his axe wound and asked "Where are my clitoris and labia that you said I would have?" And the doctor was like, "uh, right there," pointing to nothing in particular.
Much like a lawyer can't write a contract that says "you can't sue me for malpractice," a doctor can't either. Professionals are held to a standard of objective reasonableness. While this generally means you need another doctor/lawyer/professional to testify against them that they failed to uphold the standards of their profession, it also means you can't just write your way out of liability, no matter how thick your stack of bullshit disclaimers.

This rampant quackery and butchery is a cyst of liability. Eventually, the floodgates will burst. This shit could be the new asbestos.
And you don't need brain surgery for that, the antipsychotic drug pimozide has been found to treat dysphoria.
There was like one study. And that drug has absolutely awful side effects.
What if the "disease" in question involves committing suicide if you don't get the procedure?
Long-term suicide rates are no better after the surgery.
 
With regards to the legal stuff -- Dr. Crane would be a good name to google. IIRC he has at least 9 lawsuits against him for all the butchery he performed on FTMs in San Francisco, so he just moved practices to Texas(probably a state with weaker malpractice laws?). I think there's even a dedicated hate website against him I could dig up in a bit
 
(Unpopular opinion) I can't feel bad for de-transitioners unless they trooned out as kids. If you're an adult considering surgeries or transition in general, it's on you to do your research. I'm also skeptical of ftm de-transitioners because it feels like they are joining yet another bandwagon. Think about it. Reason why more girls transition nowadays could be due to wanting to fit in. Which (in my opinion) is also why we'll see more of female trannies de-transition. They'll hear some gender critical shit they can't refute and if their transition wasn't a magical cure-all, they'll be tempted to "finally find out the truth and fix what's wrong/join their desisters" to again feel like they belong and that whatever their problem is, they're working on it. What they don't realize is that the main problem is with their obsession with gender/self-obsession, not whether they end up as guys or girls.
My guess is that in maybe 5-7 years when de-transitioning will become more common, a lot of them will start re-transitioning again. Because it's about bad mental health and restless search for identity. So in that sense, I suspect mass detrans even more. It reeks of "I'm not like those BAD trannies, if fact I'm so much better I'm not even trans anymore, see? Will someone love and validate me now that I'm acting rational and stuff?".

Most of the FtM trans folks I know are victims of rape or sexual abuse. I've often wondered if their transition was about trying to overcome that. In the US, at least, we do a pretty shit job in helping sexual abuse and rape victims see any real justice or any kind of real and meaningful mental health treatment.

I have empathy for these folks if that is the case. They are likely fucked up and looki g for some way to feel safe. They get convinced being a man is a magic cure to their fear and anxiety. Once they get some meaningful help...
 
Unfortunately I am a video-embedding SPED, so maybe someone can help with archiving/ time stamping this video.

In part 4 of the film 'Dysphoric' there is a section where FtM detransitioners talk about the problems they had getting lawyers to take cases. It's at 13.45. Quite interesting.

Of course, they did this to themselves just like that lady that superglued her hair. If you really think thst horse piss and synthetic ball juice are going to make you happier and healthier, I've got a bridge to sell you.
 
I have no doubt that some of these transitioners are absolute asspat-guzzlers who will mold themselves into whatever benefits them at the time. From what I've seen, though, most detransitioners started young enough to be considered children and detransed when they were in their mid to late twenties.

And I'd love to laugh at some of the re-transitioners if you have a few names to share (tranny threads on the farms are massive and sprawling and hard to wade through).
Sure- no specific big names, but I can link few reddit posts.
Probably the most detailed post I found, please ignore the ugly screenshot.
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Other posts: link 1, link 2

There's probably more of them, but I'm in a hurry today so if you want me to look up whether there's some bigger fish, I can do that later.

Most of the FtM trans folks I know are victims of rape or sexual abuse. I've often wondered if their transition was about trying to overcome that. In the US, at least, we do a pretty shit job in helping sexual abuse and rape victims see any real justice or any kind of real and meaningful mental health treatment.

I have empathy for these folks if that is the case. They are likely fucked up and looki g for some way to feel safe. They get convinced being a man is a magic cure to their fear and anxiety. Once they get some meaningful help...

I feel sorry for them experiencing abuse. But as far as I know, women get assaulted/raped/abused often, some statistics suggest it's hard to find a woman who didn't experience it at some point. Vast majority of those women don't transition, so I think something else could be a factor and abuse is just the trigger.
 
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