Plagued Onion Farms and other KF Splinter Sites - Watch Kiwi Farms members slapfighting in this thread

Nauseated Courgi said:
I ain't creating an account on that site until they get themes that are easier on the eyes.
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I was considering creating an account there just out of pure assholery, and then I saw how ugly it is and gave up. I wish Kengle would be less autistic and allow his retarded autistic staff to create some themes I could stand to look at without vomiting.
 
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AnOminous said:
I was considering creating an account there just out of pure assholery, and then I saw how ugly it is and gave up. I wish Kengle would be less autistic and allow his retarded autistic staff to create some themes I could stand to look at without vomiting.
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@SIGSEGV made the themes, as far as I know.

ETA: A small clarification is needed. He only made the Onion Mech theme.
 
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lol Ralph reads the Onion Farms


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The farms biggest problem as a community is the reputation and the siege mentality. Like /b/ in 2007 we've become the infamous doxxxxxxxer known as KIWIFARMS. This attracts all the too cool for facebook kiddies and personal army requests, but the major issue is that the (warranted) siege mentality has made us fiercely tribal and territorial. The tribalism perpetuates a weird sort of groupthink that can make it hard to chill and have fun, certainly not helped by all the blackpilled doomposters who every time a troon does anything proclaim "it's the end of the world there's never been anything like this before! based!!!" before going to do their algebra homework. The siege is so strong we have to do most of our fun and gayposting behind the paywalled super sekrit club.

The best niche OF could fill is drama adjacent lounge with a high kiwi overlap, but Kangol's idea seems to just be "KF but with blackjack! And hookers!" I can't tell whether it's endearing or embarrassing, but I'm sure it'll provide much milk.

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Null said:
lol Ralph reads the Onion Farms
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Took one look at the site, saw the awful combination of green and purple that appears to be the default theme, and left. I've seen worse themes to be sure, but green and purple don't really go well together most of the time IMO, and I find the shades of green and purple used bad as well.
 
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Furret said:
Took one look at the site, saw the awful combination of green and purple that appears to be the default theme, and left. I've seen worse themes to be sure, but green and purple don't really go well together most of the time IMO, and I find the shades of green and purple used bad as well.
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Someone didn't enjoy his daily dose.
 
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Pickle Dick said:
The website doesn't look as bad as it did when I first looked at it, though I'd imagine purple/black isn't everyone's favorite color combination
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I don't mind purple/black if black is the primary color. The other way around is both hard to read and ugly as sin.
 
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Null said:
P.S. Splinter sites have existed since before I even took over the forum. When I was setting up the forum in 2012, there was a potential split between this one and something set up by three people who had just been banned.

The Kiwi Farms has a 'monopoly' on Internet Drama (outside of shitholes like Guru Gossiper which are so low IQ there are threads for users who are married to inmates) because I'm one of the only people in the world who is able and willing to deal with the complaint volume and technical hardships. It's not just people like Vordrak. I get DMCAs every single day and I have to put my address on every counter-DMCA I make. I get complaints about revenge porn, emails from EU countries about racist content, complaints from Roskomnadzor, complaints from people to me, complaints from people to CF, complaints from people to my host (me, now).

You could say "We'll make our splinter better, stabler, and cheaper by avoiding those problems!" - well, good luck. You're going to be deleting a lot of content. Anything copyrighted that Kengle doesn't want to dox himself to counter (art, photos, writing, anything). Anything pornographic that a person could make a reasonable argument to a host that it's revenge porn. Anything political.

At that point, you're better off just making your site private. Well if you do that, you've crippled your site's growth. A ton of users find the site from search results. Being private means that natural growth won't come. A lot of people directed to a post will simply bounce if it's closed off. In my own investigations, I've found that most people lurk as a guest for 6 months before registering to post.

You could stay public and just moderate heavily to stay online, but then you've also crippled your site's growth. Why would people pick Site A if Site B exists, is bigger, and allows more content? They'd only pick Site A if they had a problem with Site B, and the people who have a problem with Site B are a small group - many of whom are problem users, and won't exactly make Site A a better place than Site B.

Someone brought up Something Awful, but you can look at SA and places like SS and see that SS didn't exactly thrive. It existed, it served a purpose, and then it folded into the Kiwi Farms. A lot of users here are here because they came over during SA / SS drama. SA is still up. Lowtax is gone, but the community is still there. If you want to grow a community you can't just have your community be "like X, but betterer."


My real advice to you guys is to have Kengle's name on everything to be your legal buffer, have someone else manage literally every other aspect of the community, and avoid dox. Just completely avoid dox and have a small, insulated group of people that can safely play video games on their main steam accounts. That is something which I cannot give people because the site is naturally hostile and has constant external pressure. I can only organize community games for things like OpenTTD and Space Station 13, where there are no real accounts involved.
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Null said:
the site is owned by kengle and is driftwood waiting to wash up on shore at a moment's notice, but it's a good time to show people the realities of hosting this site. It's been stable for two years now, and many people really don't understand how much shit I had to eat, how much work I had to put in, how bad things got, and how much of my personal life and income I had to sacrifice for literally nothing - not even a promise that things would get better -, just because I liked the forum and wanted it to continue to exist, and believed it should have a right to exist. The last major incident was on 8/19, when ColoCrossing threw our shit into a box and I had to overnight it, and 10/19, when we got hacked and the most recent active users had their emails leaked.

I don't have animus for any of these people. I understand they're angry and want the Kiwi Farms to be XYZ and since it's not they want to figure something else out. It happens every few years.
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Jesus christ all the OF color schemes are awful. How hard can it be to add a simple grey background with white text. Guess they think that purple shit is their "branding" so people can't mistake it for the normie farms.
 
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thrusting said:
Jesus christ all the OF color schemes are awful. How hard can it be to add a simple grey background with white text. Guess they think that purple shit is their "branding" so people can't mistake it for the normie farms.
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OF is gay and ugly. If they can't even fix that why bother with them?
 
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