Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

  • 🔧 At about Midnight EST I am going to completely fuck up the site trying to fix something.
The New Order: Last Days Of Europe is a detailed but deeply flawed alternate history mod for Hearts of Iron 4 depicting an Axis victory in WW2. It has a substantial fanbase on Reddit, and as whenever Reddit gets involved in something, a lot of them are horribly disturbed and cripplingly autistic. Before long after the mod's release, people were making big chungus memes, erotic fan art, and even merchandise of Nazi war criminals.

https://old.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/j2xj8e/my_speer_hoodie_arrived_today/

https://archive.md/8YyaZ

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The desperate plea for sanity in the top comment is one of the funniest things I've seen on Reddit.



To make matters even better, "tankist-marie" is a communist troon.

Troonery abounds here as it does on Reddit in general. Any "transphobia" is grounds for a ban from the subreddit. The politics lean far, far left, with the anarcho-communist factions of the Siberian Black Army and Valery Sablin's libertarian socialist path being particularly popular. The latter led to "wholesome Keanu chungus Sablin" memes, and the mod and its community in general show heavy pro-Russian and pro-communist bias. There are also a minority of right wing edge lords, too, such as this exceptional character who carved the symbol of the brutal theocratic Holy Russian Empire into a bench.

https://old.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/jj7b7t/tno_mfs_be_like/

https://archive.md/Ut0lO

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It won't surprise anyone here to know that weebs also run amuck on the subreddit. Weeb content includes art of Nazis with body pillows and gender-flipped art of Valery Sablin.

https://old.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/j9rsgl/tabby_and_himmler_visit_an_anime_convention_and/

https://archive.md/Vmp5M

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https://old.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/jpvpn2/anime_sablin_anime_sablin/

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The top comments here are actually very funny. The community has enough self awareness to know how utterly insane it has become.





In fact, entire posts have been made begging people not to spew this nonsense all over the internet, to little avail.

https://old.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/jrhysj/this_all_looks_very_strange_to_people_outside_of/

https://archive.md/G17xk



The spin off subreddits /r/dsrfunny and /r/tabbygetthegas (referring to Meinhof's German communist radicals and the deranged Sergey Taboritsky respectively) poke fun at the madness of the community and ridiculous posts like these:

https://old.reddit.com/r/tabbygetthegas/comments/jqcsd0/_/

https://archive.md/6NVKj

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I'll leave this quote to finish:

https://old.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/k3db1n/on_tno_references_in_the_wild/

https://archive.md/Ea56v



And, yes, "Equestria At War" is a real thing, sadly.

The mod was originally the work of Jakob "ThePinkPanzer" Zabrowski, a former homeless neo-Nazi Stormfront user turned Vaush-loving communist, developing from a thread on the defunct Facepunch forum.

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An interview with Zabrowski can be read here.

https://quillette.com/2020/11/26/the-videogame-that-takes-us-inside-the-hell-of-a-nazi-run-world/

https://archive.md/OJsTp

Zabrowski has been exposed as a pervert who hits on underage girls and has bestiality porn. After the mod's release, he retired and was replaced by a looney troon, Frederick Wakefield, who refers to himself as Pacifica.

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Wakefield is, as the picture suggests, a man. He is also insane, and has a crush on the infamous Soviet war criminal Mikhail Suslov. Accusing the TNO Redux submod, also known as RU-TNO due to its Russian player base, of doxing him after a gitlab of the mod was leaked, he deleted their Discord and ignited major unrest in the fan community.

These videos briefly sum up the events, and the community is now falling apart.



After the sperg war raged for several days, Wakefield announced his retirement from the mod team, being lauded by his sycophantic fanbase.

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The mod team is now being led by a council of developers.

They also *really* hate Kiwi Farms.

https://old.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/lcm8kb/followup_on_the_previous_announcement/

https://archive.md/P8iLX
Yesterday I was in a discord call where one of the new developrers Atlantica, the autistic tranny, joined the call. There was a huge thing about it, and the whole thing was archived here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTmj_29Gxvg if you havent seen it already
 
I am aware.

also please dont calm down and dont take your prescribed pills. this thread might end up adding another lolcow to its collection.
Glucosamine is for my damaged vertebrae.

So, kindly fornicate in the opposite direction.

Is it just me or has there been an obvious increase in glow/no picture throwaway accounts popping up in the past day?
I'm not a throwaway, I just lurked around 2015 Chris Chan events then decided to pop in when my suspicions about TNO became true, it was a tranny-run shitshow of egoride
 
It's because they know this exists. They're trying to infiltrate. Funnily enough, KR, we already did that to you....
Guys, I can't get the Aryan Empire with Himmler please work around the "seeded at the game start" thing. I don't want to replay the same run 100 times over to get crazy potion from Tibet.
 
how long do you think redux has before it all goes to shit? it would be cool if bach actually completely threw our and never forgave atlantica, but ofc for some reason he has to defend a literal pedo? id say give it 11 months and then complete death
 
Prox (TWR main dev) doesn't have much interesting to be honest. Besides being half Korean and living in central london with a younger sister, the only thing noteworthy is that he seems to be as close to the platonic ideal of an NPC as possible going by how he religiously posts in r/neoliberal and making occasional navelgazing posts asking redditors about space colonization and why we aren't transhuman yet: https://www.reddit.com/user/AP246/posts/

Perhaps other developers will be more fruitful?
 
Prox (TWR main dev) doesn't have much interesting to be honest. Besides being half Korean and living in central london with a younger sister, the only thing noteworthy is that he seems to be as close to the platonic ideal of an NPC as possible going by how he religiously posts in r/neoliberal and making occasional navelgazing posts asking redditors about space colonization and why we aren't transhuman yet: https://www.reddit.com/user/AP246/posts/

Perhaps other developers will be more fruitful?
Yeah, Prox is a pretty barebones lefty redditor, the worst thing that could be said about him is how utterly bland he is.
 
Prox (TWR main dev) doesn't have much interesting to be honest. Besides being half Korean and living in central london with a younger sister, the only thing noteworthy is that he seems to be as close to the platonic ideal of an NPC as possible going by how he religiously posts in r/neoliberal and making occasional navelgazing posts asking redditors about space colonization and why we aren't transhuman yet: https://www.reddit.com/user/AP246/posts/

Perhaps other developers will be more fruitful?
He is not even a one-time cow, at most he serves as a screenshot to post in a cringe thread.
 
You've actually read through that shit?
nah read the beginning, read the end, popped into a random part of the middle to see if there was anything worthwhile. there would be some good shit in there if this guy had a proper mental filter.
I'm not a throwaway, I just lurked around 2015 Chris Chan events then decided to pop in when my suspicions about TNO became true, it was a tranny-run shitshow of egoride
if you lurked from 2015 onwards you should know that this site doesnt partcularly like people that ramble off topic shit nor does anyone care about your mental notes and creative writing exercise that you added along your info.
 
Prox (TWR main dev) doesn't have much interesting to be honest. Besides being half Korean and living in central london with a younger sister, the only thing noteworthy is that he seems to be as close to the platonic ideal of an NPC as possible going by how he religiously posts in r/neoliberal and making occasional navelgazing posts asking redditors about space colonization and why we aren't transhuman yet: https://www.reddit.com/user/AP246/posts/

Perhaps other developers will be more fruitful?
>half korean
>korean
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It usually appears to be one or the other, or a combo of both. The statistics about gay/trans people who have had "early sexual experiences" (the sick way research now likes to present it) is pretty damning. This combined with the fact someone is statistically almost never only trans but also has some other kind of diagnosed illness supports this. Its possible some of these people were never molested, but if that's the case they almost definitely have some other mental illness as well. The bizarre retcon of gender dysphoria away from a mental illness, and thus away from actual therapy and treatment usually compounds the other illness leading to further and further insanity.
Most of the troon lolcows we see on here seem to come from privileged, upper middle class backgrounds, and are often autistic and involved in programming (badly). Not exclusively, but I really don't think people like Brianna Wu, Contrapoints, or Jim Sterling were getting raped as kids. Everything about them seems like people who have led a sheltered life and don't have anything more to worry about than ranting on Twitter. The TNO troons seem to mostly fall into this category too; PinkPanzer was homeless, but he's not a troon.
 
I didn't ask for mine, it was a joke about "Jessica" (actually Jonathan) a trans "woman" who wanted ball waxing from a female hairdresser and ended up suing her and LOSING IT

lawl.

When I met the word "Troon" here I finally realized the appropriate word for those "trans" people who spit on the memory of those who wanted to be a girl/different/Hokum attack helicopter(better than apache prove me wrong).

Before you call me faggot, I dont care what LGBT people do. Their lives are theirs to enjoy and find love and marry any gender above 18, but if they make parades of naked butts in front of kids I'm going to hurt them. Same goes with heteros.

Back to the mod.

I'm relatively a newcomer to TNO when I downloaded HoI4 and enjoyed it like fuck. Anyone who says the game is bad clearly never worked at a video game store.

Look, the Hearts of Iron series are made by Paradox. making games costs MONEY. Food for coders, fishing them, getting them to work together while resisting to grab a tire iron and brain one to make an example of (last one is like herding a bunch of cats on speed) And like you don't know what. Without derailing much, the company makes games out of ideas and encourages people to mod it. The finest two WW2 grand strat games, Arsenal of Democracy and Darkest Hour, are fanmade HoI2 remakes approved by the company.

So Paradox is a co-op company so to speak.

AAAAAAANYWAY

Sorry about ranting the pandemic and quarantine is chipping at my brain. I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

About 2019, I stumbled on this mod when I was fishing for fun facts from TVTROPES, and saw this mod.

I was impressed. A nazi victory while showing how utterly, utterly and utterly fucked up the world would be if certain things in the timeline went horribly wrong. Let's be honest, an alive Heydrich would be a very bad thing. VERY. VERY. BAD. I'm no wehraboo but this guy would definitely hurt the world even as the Reich would inevitably die.

So I get impressed by the mod. Why? It explains a Nazi rush into USSR defeat would not be a roaring victory. It would be a starving wolf choking to death while trying to consume several partly alive, and slightly venomous animals.

Sorry for the dramatic explanation.

I notice the mod will have radical structure changes, new UI and even a financial system which depends on its civilian industries, which also need some of the output producing money.

Then I read that (truthfully) the game has MORE flavor text and event description than the entire Hearts of Iron franchise combined. Simplest unifier Russian warlords have MORE story and detail than the base game's superpowers.

So it's good right?

I lurk, eventually poke around, get the mod's early builds and poke around for fun.

South African minimod was fun. So the hype builds.

I go into discord around 2020. You should have seen the discord around the release time.

That was the moment I started to get feeling that something is wrong about the mod.

In the midst of a massive cold war and horror crisis, the game was told to have tickers about "LGBTIQ+ rights", "minorities' rights" and extensive coverage of gays and trans people within a world gone mad like fallout: new vegas on crack. (for those that dont get it, the city and structural system of South Urals area of Russia is directly adapted from Fallout: New Vegas)

We get a lesbian couple in Orenburg, gays in prison in Amur's Russian fascists waiting execution, and several extensive explanations of Dirlewanger's rape-cannibalize-slaughter fantasies, and a group of former raped women by him coming to smoke his ass.

Yellow flags started to rise.

"Seriously", I posted at Discord. "I have one little question. Are there any LGBTIQ+ in the dev team?"

It was an innocent question but I was taken offense against. The response, as far as i remember, was very terse. Any further comments about "oh he just asked if anyone was a trap" received a ban. I apologize for the lack of screenshots, so you have to take my word for it: I didn't think it would go this far. The mods were very, very autistically anal retentive about ANY lgbtiqewruotıweurwphsk references, as well as raining bans like hailstorm when ANYONE made a slightly horny posting. (such as having a crush on Yevdokiya Bershanskaya and calling her a MILF) Flags started to rise since I realized ANY arguments or doing anything the mods were in a bad mood in resulted in banning.

Say "Bormann wasn't a bad guy IRL"? Ban(He was, but that's not the point. Wehraboos are autistic but less than troons). Say "Vlasov was an OK guy IRL, I hope Samara's KONR gets happy ending?" Ban. Praise anything liberal or right relative to "Tankie" in political compass, BAN BAN BAN.

I wasnt a lurker back then.

About the release date, 21 July, I had moved in to my new home after marriage. My wife sleeping in the next room, me relaxing after my work from home, it was time to play the mod.

I am glad I had the earphones. The Discord page was blipping and blopping and blinking with constant updates about "MOD WHEN" "PANZER DADDY RELEASE THE MOD IN ME" "MOOOOOOOOOOD WHEEEEEEEEEEEEN" and autistic screechings prerecorded as files until they changed the page to text-only.

On the plus side, the screams, begs, frothings and bangings on the wall were ambrosia to my ears.

Imagine. A realtime chat where 5000+ people are screaming on top of their lungs and spamming the keyboard about begging Jakob (Pinkpanzer) to RELEASE THE MOD IN ME DADDYWAARRRGARRRBLLLLL

Some sent voicefiles, some made themselves screaming and banging their heads on the wall, one dude even went Pink Guy on the screen.

For.

Six. Hours.

Even my wife came over to check up on me to see how I brayed to unconsciousness, blacked out twice from laughing. I. Blacked. Out. From Laughing. I wish many of you were at TNO Discord at the release day.

I showed her the logs and she shook her head and got to work. Luckily I had one day off. So, around 7:00 AM, my cigarette and tea fueled night wait resulted in a creaky neck, bad vertebrae and pain. Popping 6 Glucosamine I went to sleep.

afternoon before wife came home, the mod was OUT!

MY 3 YEARS OF WAITING PAID OFF!

Wait a minute.

After all the hype, hype and endless hype, the mod turned out to be a...railroading disappointment except for Russian Warlords. I'm not even going to speak about game mechanics, efficiency multipliers are so bad entire countries are unable to produce more than a dozen rifles per month. We also find out normalized fa- I mean LGBTIQ boosts population growth and stability. (again, Troontard la la logic)

It was as if the whole game was about the endless Russian Unifiers, most of which are... drumroll please...unironic tankies. I mean, yes there is virtually -every- sort of unifier warlord with many, many interesting ideologies, yet for some reason WRRF wins the struggle canon-wise. And many AuthSoc (Tankie for TNOspeak) paths in Russia have incredible bonuses. Many warlord factions you play have storylines for options, until after a certain plot point your actions define whether you go Libsoc (what socialism should have been ideally) or Authsoc(What it is IRL, Tankie Dictatorship)

Obviously, Libsoc paths forego MANY bonuses for war production and recruitment rates. So you -can- be idealist Valery Sablin who has a USSR with FREE ELECTIONS, FREE PRESS, everything allowed except Fascist/National Socialist philosophy/parties. But you'll have a hard time without cheats.

Also the mod's storyline has Ian Smith shot dead before the story goes in motion, as a "jab to 4chan and altright to show their Rhodesia is shit"

Now we stop for a second.

This is...like Chris-chan's stories where he builds his la la land and tortures and kills his hated rivals.

I dig deeper. This is a clear sign the developers wanted to blow off some steam. Still...

The mod is about "fascism is bad". Amirite?

For some magical reason even the worst Authsocs endure without any problems. Indeed, USSR, when united, can outdo the entire Einheitspakt (Nazi-EU), fueled by Bukharin's Siberian Plan and rebuild from STONE AGE in a matter of months. Outbuild and outdo the ENTIRE EUROPE, militarized and rebuilt and built upon for hundreds of years when Russians were in Medieval Era, busy being the prime white slave flesh being sold from Caffa to Islamic lands. (social commentary, Slavic Slave Trade was as bad as Atlantic Slave Trade but I guess its ok when its white women for sex slaves to Middle-Easterners because Kalergi wants white flesh for Allah)

But fascism? Oh no no no no, fascism bad! Tankie good!

Sorry, I have a headache and need to vent.

Anyway, again.

As I wait for updates, get updates and enjoy various countries, I started to notice any, ANY DISSENT on Mod pages of Steam and Reddit get instant erasure. Now look at the game mod's discussion and comment pages in Steam.

That's right they are erased.

I kept lurking Reddit, and it got so bad that you get a ban even if you say "Nazism is International Socialism with just a narrower "acceptable citizen" scope".

Whether this is true or false is a non-issue. You insult the troon-tankie-tard Pacifica's man-crushes, you get a ban and are evaporized.

It got bad enough that TNO subreddit began employing methods to "suspected returns" and any words even referring to KIWI started auto erasures.

I came here because I thought about talking about this link to others.

within moments I get a venomous message from a mod and poof.

I'm gone.




So why did I write a long ass uninteresting story?

So that people can take lessons.

When it's a work of art, yes, the main artist will have an inflated ego, it's a fact. They deserve it, I mean it's a free game and you get to play it, so he is entitled to instill his views.

But what happened at TNO was, even from a very uninformed perspective of mine, a clear whistle of a crashing train. The mods, devs, whomever ran the show are even less tolerant of many SJW subreddits. Many regularly comb for keywords or kick each other. And now this civil war. MERELY BECAUSE SOME TRANNY FAGGOT (with respect to sincere transgirls) got his hormone shots mess with his brain that day and sperged out at some Russian dev helpers offering to rewrite some plot.

Bottom line:

Troons do not deserve to have basic human rights.
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