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Surgery is not one of them.

Where did I reference surgery in my post? Looks can be improved in many ways besides surgery, not to mention the other non-physical areas one could work on. I do think surgery can help people that have things noticeably wrong with their facial structure, though.
 
Where did I reference surgery in my post? Looks can be improved in many ways besides surgery, not to mention the other non-physical areas one could work on. I do think surgery can help people that have things noticeably wrong with their facial structure, though.
You're right, you didn't mention it and I apologize for misconstruing what you said.
 
You are clearly aware that you have a problem and you have indicated that you are seeking help for it. Why enable it with this sort of shit?



what the fuck is it with you people and the jaw silhouettes dude goddamn
Agreed. Plus, that silhouette wouldn't really work in real life. The way he has the neck dialed back doesn't seem to take into consideration of the muscles, spine, etc that reside within that area. It would be like a Rob Liefeld creature come to life! Imgur isn't working for me at the moment. Nooooo...

Also, if we're going by aesthetics in art, @scar_face40's nose to chin angle is correct. Not the blueline, but his actual profile is a normal profile. If he sat up straight and didn't slouch, it would help. -- I hate the plain side angle's these guys do because they are in a static state and movement makes a big difference in how things are perceived, as well as lighting... Being in-person is usually better as photographs flatten out the surfaces and do not show true prospective and depth. It's a very shallow representation. Not to mention none of the guys look happy and never smile.
 
scar_face, I don't think you should necessarily give up on the aesthetics stuff but you definitely need a healthier approach. Four hours a night? Please try to spend less time on that every night and make pick up a video game for half the time or something? You don't have to snap out of it, just take small steps. Surely you can force yourself to play a game or read something else for an hour or so?
I think you could find a healthier approach to it too. You seem to believe becoming more attractive is going to fix all your problems to the point you're not going out much in the meantime, waiting for your magic fix. By the time you get it you may find that you have another hill to climb because you've socially stunted yourself in the mean time. The extra 30 seconds you think you will get with opening up to girls at parties won't be of much use then.
Honestly, when I was younger I was really unattractive and extremely upset about it all the time. I thought attractive girls had it so easy, and I couldn't stop being jealous of them. Later I kind of grew into myself and learned how to look a lot more aesthetic. It did improve my life, but if I had to rank it, it didn't really improve it any more than getting a decent pay increase at a job or finding an exciting new hobby, and it created a lot of new problems. Knowing that now, I can't obsess about looks like I used to. So I think I have a different perspective on this than Lookism or some of the people here. Maybe I'm being over optimistic but that's my $.02.
 
Also, if we're going by aesthetics in art, @scar_face40's nose to chin angle is correct. Not the blueline, but his actual profile is a normal profile.


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Ah classical art ratios, more about the beauty of maths than the beauty of the human body
If it's going to end up that way, I guess so. It's the same crap they're going by, but they forget that when you know the rules, you can break them. :medallion:

If there's a person with perfect symmetry, they look like weird aliens.
 
I want to make these clear before I go on a rant. I'm not trying to tell people with depression to just harden up. Depression is a cunt and needs to be treated properly. I'm not disagreeing that people that are attractive tend to get a better time of things.

But the coping thing bugs me. Coping is different, coping (to varying degrees of pathology) is the Army Ranger vet that drinks himself to sleep every night, the rape victim that goes out and starts fights, the grieving widower who shuts himself away from the world and writes poems, the childhood abuse victim that cuts themselves. You're not coping because you're ugly, you're coping because you're depressed, and this cycle of Red Pilling is your coping mechanism. As coping mechanisms go, red pilling is more harmful than getting blind drunk (and significantly less fun).

The thing with depression, though, is that its causes are a bitch to identify. In the case of people like @scar_face40, is he depressed because he thinks he's ugly, or does he think he's ugly because he's depressed? That's not an easy question to answer; hell, otherwise normal, happy, attractive people develop depression all the time. Taking the Red Pill isn't waking up to some objective truth, it's obfuscating larger issues. If you are in that headspace, you need help; and lookism.net et. al. are NOT help. They're a toxic little echo chamber of half-formed truths and fully formed biases. Taking the Red Pill is itself a coping mechanism for other problems, potentially running the gamut from garden variety depression to being a fucking low-functioning sociopath.

The idea that by making the transfer from Steven Urkel to Stephan Urquel and 'banging lots of bitches' will magically make your life better is a bullshit chimera. Some of the most depressed people actually use promiscuity as a coping mechanism. As for meaningful companionship, if you're basing that on looks all you'll get is a dead, hollow relationship.

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Apologies for double post, didn't want to break mid-rant.

If it's going to end up that way, I guess so. It's the same crap they're going by, but they forget that when you know the rules, you can break them. :medallion:

If there's a person with perfect symmetry, they look like weird aliens.

I agree, I just like seeing the Golden Ratio everywhere. φ is like an old friend to me, because I'm an incurable math nerd.
 
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Dude, four hours a night on that shit forum? For the love of god, how much painting and converting could you get done in that time? You could rattle up a 1500 points project from scratch in, what, four to six weeks if you'd put in four hours a night?

Actually, do that. Get a project. Even if it has to be spess murheens. Get a project, open a project log post on B&C or Dakka or somewhere

I've been tempted, but my interest with the hobby was beginning to wane a bit, even before I became looks-obsessed. I wouldn't say I've grown out of it, far from it, it's just I don't like the direction both games systems are taking.


Agreed. Plus, that silhouette wouldn't really work in real life. The way he has the neck dialed back doesn't seem to take into consideration of the muscles, spine, etc that reside within that area. It would be like a Rob Liefeld creature come to life! Imgur isn't working for me at the moment. Nooooo...

Also, if we're going by aesthetics in art, @scar_face40's nose to chin angle is correct. Not the blueline, but his actual profile is a normal profile. If he sat up straight and didn't slouch, it would help. -- I hate the plain side angle's these guys do because they are in a static state and movement makes a big difference in how things are perceived, as well as lighting... Being in-person is usually better as photographs flatten out the surfaces and do not show true prospective and depth. It's a very shallow representation. Not to mention none of the guys look happy and never smile.

I think the 'desired' image on the left looks unnatural because I've got my head tilted back anyway. The profile I'm after in the typical balanced 'anteface'. The being the chin is in direct vertical alignment with the brow. You can see if the black and white photo on the right that my chin (as a result of my lower jaw being too far back) is recessed compared my midface.

Smiling naturally makes my profile and oblique view look better because when you smile your lower jaw moves forward slightly, but in life you can't be smiling all the time.

My submental (under chin) area is not very defined and has a similar appearance to an older person with a sagging neck. This is mainly due to a low hanging hyoid bone, which I think I've probably inherited from my mum. I did initially think that I could never achieve the result I wanted because of my muscle and bone, but when I jut my jaw forward (ie: anywhere in public), my neck to jaw angle gets much better and closer to 90 degrees.

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Anyway, thanks for all the responses people, it's been good food for thought.
 
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I want to make these clear before I go on a rant. I'm not trying to tell people with depression to just harden up. Depression is a cunt and needs to be treated properly. I'm not disagreeing that people that are attractive tend to get a better time of things.

But the coping thing bugs me. Coping is different, coping (to varying degrees of pathology) is the Army Ranger vet that drinks himself to sleep every night, the rape victim that goes out and starts fights, the grieving widower who shuts himself away from the world and writes poems, the childhood abuse victim that cuts themselves. You're not coping because you're ugly, you're coping because you're depressed, and this cycle of Red Pilling is your coping mechanism. As coping mechanisms go, red pilling is more harmful than getting blind drunk (and significantly less fun).

The thing with depression, though, is that its causes are a bitch to identify. In the case of people like @scar_face40, is he depressed because he thinks he's ugly, or does he think he's ugly because he's depressed? That's not an easy question to answer; hell, otherwise normal, happy, attractive people develop depression all the time. Taking the Red Pill isn't waking up to some objective truth, it's obfuscating larger issues. If you are in that headspace, you need help; and lookism.net et. al. are NOT help. They're a toxic little echo chamber of half-formed truths and fully formed biases. Taking the Red Pill is itself a coping mechanism for other problems, potentially running the gamut from garden variety depression to being a fucking low-functioning sociopath.

The idea that by making the transfer from Steven Urkel to Stephan Urquel and 'banging lots of bitches' will magically make your life better is a bullshit chimera. Some of the most depressed people actually use promiscuity as a coping mechanism. As for meaningful companionship, if you're basing that on looks all you'll get is a dead, hollow relationship.

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It's a bad way to cope in scar face's case. You're right people cope in different ways, some do it in healthy ways and others do it in unhealthy ways and questionable ways. The way I cope with my 'situation(s)' I dick around on the webs, play vidya, read, get my writing done, research and keep to myself. I don't have much of a healthy home life but ever since I got a new job I plan on being out the house more, since you can't do much without money, especially in my state.

I think the LS/SH/Lookism crowd(s) stay in this toxic stew is because they're all in the same boat. Their 'experiences' are 'different' than ours. While it's better that they're complaining on the internet no matter how bad it is, at least they're not inflicting violence because their biological urges/needs aren't met. Truth be told, I'd rather not see anymore frustrated lonely virgins shooting up people on the news. It would be hard for more male virgins to tell women they're interested that they never done the deed.

A wise man once said, 'lack of sex can make a man crazy'. I hate to sound like a ROK columnist but you know how anti-male the West is becoming.
 
Dude, I play Tyranids. There are no words to express my feelings about the direction my army is going in.

But still. My bugs need love. Your plastic crack also needs love. Your chin, however, is just fine. Promise.

Ah, Tyranids were my first army when I started around 9 years ago, but I really wasn't a fan of the codices they kept bringing out, so I ended up selling them on.

I've got Eldar and Orks for 40k, and Warriors of Chaos and Orcs & Goblins for fantasy.
 
Ah, Tyranids were my first army when I started around 9 years ago, but I really wasn't a fan of the codices they kept bringing out, so I ended up selling them on.

I've got Eldar and Orks for 40k, and Warriors of Chaos and Orcs & Goblins for fantasy.

I palmed off my Dark Eldar because tbh I don't have time for one army, let alone two. I kinda miss them. I always wanted that big fuck off fancy Eldar titan thing Forge World brought out a couple years ago, though. Just to paint it and make noises when I moved it around the board.

I fucking hate Robin Cruddace. I feel we may have this in common.
 
I think the LS/SH/Lookism crowd(s) stay in this toxic stew is because they're all in the same boat. Their 'experiences' are 'different' than ours. While it's better that they're complaining on the internet no matter how bad it is, at least they're not inflicting violence because their biological urges/needs aren't met. Truth be told, I'd rather not see anymore frustrated lonely virgins shooting up people on the news. It would be hard for more male virgins to tell women they're interested that they never done the deed.
I didn't even address the idea that being a slayer is the only way anyone can find fulfilment, which is shallow and demonstrably wrong. Not that I can convince them of that, because they've all bought into the idea that anyone that says any different is a copecel blue piller.

I fucking hate Robin Cruddace. I feel we may have this in common.
Let us all put aside our differences and join in a two minutes hate for Cruddace.
 
I palmed off my Dark Eldar because tbh I don't have time for one army, let alone two. I kinda miss them. I always wanted that big fuck off fancy Eldar titan thing Forge World brought out a couple years ago, though. Just to paint it and make noises when I moved it around the board.

I fucking hate Robin Cruddace. I feel we may have this in common.

Yeah, I can't stand Cruddace after what he did to 'nids twice in a row.

I've got a Wraithknight for Eldar, but I'm not sure I'd want anything bigger because even that damn thing keeps falling apart where I've had to pin it together.

Starting armies and not finishing them was always the bane of me. At one point, I must have tried to start a new army every couple of months as I kept getting distracted by more and more cool stuff being released. Managed to just cut it down to 2 for each system now, but I can't see myself ever wanting to part company with any of them now.
 
Yeah, I can't stand Cruddace after what he did to 'nids twice in a row.

I've got a Wraithknight for Eldar, but I'm not sure I'd want anything bigger because even that damn thing keeps falling apart where I've had to pin it together.

Starting armies and not finishing them was always the bane of me. At one point, I must have tried to start a new army every couple of months as I kept getting distracted by more and more cool stuff being released. Managed to just cut it down to 2 for each system now, but I can't see myself ever wanting to part company with any of them now.

*cheerfully off-topic*

I obtained a fuckload of Chaos Marines to do Night Lords. Then I tried painting lightning on the power armour. Then they all went back into the loft unpainted forever. At least I can paint bugs, even if thousands of points later, I have realised I actually hate my colour scheme.

I am so fucking jealous of that Wraithknight and I think you should put a photo of it in my profile comments very soon.
 
I want to make these clear before I go on a rant. I'm not trying to tell people with depression to just harden up. Depression is a cunt and needs to be treated properly. I'm not disagreeing that people that are attractive tend to get a better time of things.

But the coping thing bugs me. Coping is different, coping (to varying degrees of pathology) is the Army Ranger vet that drinks himself to sleep every night, the rape victim that goes out and starts fights, the grieving widower who shuts himself away from the world and writes poems, the childhood abuse victim that cuts themselves. You're not coping because you're ugly, you're coping because you're depressed, and this cycle of Red Pilling is your coping mechanism. As coping mechanisms go, red pilling is more harmful than getting blind drunk (and significantly less fun).

The thing with depression, though, is that its causes are a bitch to identify. In the case of people like @scar_face40, is he depressed because he thinks he's ugly, or does he think he's ugly because he's depressed? That's not an easy question to answer; hell, otherwise normal, happy, attractive people develop depression all the time. Taking the Red Pill isn't waking up to some objective truth, it's obfuscating larger issues. If you are in that headspace, you need help; and lookism.net et. al. are NOT help. They're a toxic little echo chamber of half-formed truths and fully formed biases. Taking the Red Pill is itself a coping mechanism for other problems, potentially running the gamut from garden variety depression to being a fucking low-functioning sociopath.

The idea that by making the transfer from Steven Urkel to Stephan Urquel and 'banging lots of bitches' will magically make your life better is a bullshit chimera. Some of the most depressed people actually use promiscuity as a coping mechanism. As for meaningful companionship, if you're basing that on looks all you'll get is a dead, hollow relationship.

1EVElOC.gif
Lookists talk about nature like it is some thing that cares about their happiness. Although there may be value in transmitting ones genes that doesn't change the fact that spreading ones genes will do nothing for one's happiness. If one wants to reject happiness in favour of gene transmission that is a choice that one can make for oneself but conflating them is incorrect.
 
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