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I think a lot of dudes also think women are these weird alien creatures when they really aren't. Treating women as some alien species instead of just another person isn't going to go well. Like shit, if you have to treat me as a fucked up alien, do it because I'm an autist, not because I'm female.

Also trying to befriend women solely to get in their pants is shitty and not something we like. We like having friends just like anyone else, imagine if you found out a guy you thought genuinely enjoyed being friends with you actually just wanted to fuck you.

Like damn son, I've had some struggles but I've got great friends, a roof over my head, hobbies, and animals to take care of. That makes life worth it to me. Trying to add a relationship on top of that is just unnecessary and would probably just fuck shit up.
Literally tutorial island for you. Shut up
 
How is that shitty? How else are men supposed to get laid? You don't walk up to a women and say "Hey I wanna fuck you" THAT would actually be shitty. You have to have some subtly at least. You start with a friendship and eventually work up to a relationship. This is one of the things about women I understand the very least
There's a vast gulf between "be friendly" and "befriend." Lots of dudes fuck this up. If you are horny, approach her like a man approaching a woman. Don't try to worm into her confidence as a pal, and then spring "oh and by the way I've always wanted to bury my cock in you" after a year of casual bonhomie. That's creepy.

Go back to my salesman analogy. One guy walks up to you at work and, after pleasantly introducing himself, gives his pitch for why you should do business with him. The other guy hangs around a lot, talks about sports or whatever, and gradually becomes your work buddy. Six months later, he says, "now that all that's taken care of, will you buy my product?" Which one is the creep?
 
If you are horny, approach her like a man approaching a woman.
What the fuck does that analogy mean? How does a man approach a women? I didn't even know there was a specific way
Go back to my salesman analogy. One guy walks up to you at work and, after pleasantly introducing himself, gives his pitch for why you should do business with him. The other guy hangs around a lot, talks about sports or whatever, and gradually becomes your work buddy. Six months later, he says, "now that all that's taken care of, will you buy my product?" Which one is the creep?
Neither of them are creeps, one of them was just more adamant about his "product"
 
What the fuck does that analogy mean? How does a man approach a women? I didn't even know there was a specific way
This one's easy. Just be upfront with what you want. If you want a date, say so. That's literally all.
Neither of them are creeps, one of them was just more adamant about his "product"
Salesmen is a bad analogy, because all salesmen are creeps. But the idea is if you're not upfront, the poor girl will likely get whiplash because you acted one way but wanted something different.
 
This one's easy. Just be upfront with what you want. If you want a date, say so. That's literally all.
So you think it's normal to walk up to a random girl you never met and say, "Can I date you" But confessing your love to a girl you known for a long time is somehow creepy? Uhm, WHAT.
Salesmen is a bad analogy, because all salesmen are creeps. But the idea is if you're not upfront, the poor girl will likely get whiplash because you acted one way but wanted something different.
Who implied anybody was "wanting" anything. You're just relating to another human being. It could go any way it wants. Whats with this stupid rigid rule that confessing love to a friend is creepy. I honestly cannot comprehend what is creepy about that. I think walking up to a stranger and asking for a date is creepy, not the other way around.
 
How is that shitty? How else are men supposed to get laid? You don't walk up to a women and say "Hey I wanna fuck you" THAT would actually be shitty. You have to have some subtly at least. You start with a friendship and eventually work up to a relationship. This is one of the things about women I understand the very least
Because it's basically saying to a woman that you don't actually enjoy their company and friendship, you were only interested in getting pussy. Especially if they turn you down and you then want nothing to do with them.

It would be the same if a guy you thought was your friend turned out to just want some buttsex.
 
Because it's basically saying to a woman that you don't actually enjoy their company and friendship, you were only interested in getting pussy
And how do you know that? You can still enjoy their company and friendship and be interested in getting pussy. One does not cancel the other out.
It would be the same if a guy you thought was your friend turned out to just want some buttsex.
I'd be flattered that he feels that way about me, but I'd politely tell him no and that I am straight. I wouldn't ghost him from my life like some whiney stuck up bitchy bitch.
 
You're either being intentionally dense, or just honestly autistic, but either way trust us, telling a girl you want to date her long after you've met is creepy. Long term friendships can turn into romance, but that's a mutually understood thing that doesn't require "and now, let us fuck," making her wonder if it was all a long con.

The only thing wrong with "can I date you" is awkward phrasing and rushed timescale. "Let's go out sometime" is better, and it should come up in the first week or not at all. No, not the first thing you say, holy shit. But not after you've been hanging out for a month and a half or anything weird like that.

You've already said you want to be in complete control, so honestly fetlife is a better bet than meeting normal humans IRL.
 
You're either being intentionally dense, or just honestly autistic, but either way trust us, telling a girl you want to date her long after you've met is creepy.
My brain cannot comprehend why, and in my opinion it should be the opposite, but I'll take your word for it.

The only thing wrong with "can I date you" is awkward phrasing and rushed timescale. "Let's go out sometime" is better, and it should come up in the first week or not at all. No, not the first thing you say, holy shit. But not after you've been hanging out for a month and a half or anything weird like that.
What's with all these weird specific rigid rules?

You've already said you want to be in complete control, so honestly fetlife is a better bet than meeting normal humans IRL.
Yeah I tried it but tbh it's a dead site and nobody responds.
 
What's with all these weird specific rigid rules?
I'm not saying anything crazy, and these rules are at least on the cultural level and probably related to something inherent.

Consider personal space. When you're talking to anyone you don't know particularly well, if you're closer than one arm's distance, you're being creepy. If you're standing 15 feet away, you're being weird. I didn't make this up. Break these rules and most people will respond negatively, especially if you're too close.

It's the same sort of thing. Most people intuit this stuff. It only seems weird and arbitrary when you have to have it spelt out. I believe you that it makes no sense to you, but it makes sense to 95% of people, and they never had to be told it.
 
I'm not saying anything crazy, and these rules are at least on the cultural level and probably related to something inherent.

Consider personal space. When you're talking to anyone you don't know particularly well, if you're closer than one arm's distance, you're being creepy. If you're standing 15 feet away, you're being weird. I didn't make this up. Break these rules and most people will respond negatively, especially if you're too close.

It's the same sort of thing. Most people intuit this stuff. It only seems weird and arbitrary when you have to have it spelt out. I believe you that it makes no sense to you, but it makes sense to 95% of people, and they never had to be told it.
Yeah being way too close to someone, that makes sense, that's fucking weird and creepy and disrespectful for sure. I'd be freaked out if someone did that and be like wtf are you doing. However I don't understand what is creepy about dating someone 10 months after you met VS dating them 3 weeks after you met. Like what's the fucking difference? What makes one creepy and the other not creepy? And is this shit really some innate instinctual rule, because I never heard anything like this in my life.
 
Idk, I'm very super confused. None of this makes any sense.
Dont worry too much about "why" or even "how". Just think about the "what" of how these women think and take it easy. Women need to feel comfortable for any dating to work and too sudden a change from friend to lover or even FWB will freak her out and make her feel like you're adding work where there wasn't. It's like seeing Arizona teas go from 2/1 to 69c at Walgreens.
 
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Dont worry too much about "why" or even "how". Just think about the "what" of how these women think and take it easy. Women need to feel comfortable for any dating to work and too sudden a change from friend to lover or even FWB will freak her out and make her feel like you're adding work where there wasn't. It's like seeing Arizona teas go from 2/1 to 69c at Walgreens.
I guess it makes sense when I think about it. If they aren't comfortable then a sudden change will make them upset. Is this something I should inherently know?
 
Do you require the darkest of blackpills?
do you see any succesful marriages these days?
monogany is going away
polyagamy is growing popular
what incentive is there to be loyal to one dude when you can hookup 24-7
any guy or gal can do that
You think everything is alright
she can choose to cheat on you with a girl
and then she'll be having fun and then divorce you
take the kids
take the house
take the money
she'll be having fun while you suffocate because you decided to hang yourself
And that is even if you can manage to get a girlfriend and keep her.
No-one will get this. Society doesn't even think that there is a problem. If sex wasn't important then homosexual couples wouldn't be risking their lives to have it. Most relationships are started by tinder and other sites. That is where women can be whores. This is where looksmatching comes into play looksmatch for the normalfags is basically if you're a 3/10 guy then you'd date a 3/10 woman. But do to the influx of men to tinder and other such apps there is a lot of men with small amounts of women. Creating an inbalance and a surplus of men. These men aren't competing for the top women, they're competing for their looksmatch. And due to the surplus of men women benefit from this. Look up the pig lady tinder expiriment. It's brutal suifuel. https://imgur.com/r/Braincels/4Et8uAe. If that beast is getting laid by the top men then why would the woman ever go back to subpar men? Chad cock is a drug for women, and it's impossible for them to go back to non chad men. 80/20 rule comes into play as well. 80% of men, vying for the attention of the bottom 20% of women. in a later post i'll link the videos and such. Just need to compile them
 
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