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Imagine paying $10K to this grifter to literally dox you to the feds. Convenient amount he chose there.Just thinking about this
I mean, that isn't what feds do. Feds encourage people to break laws. Nick does the opposite of that. I'm fairly certain no one in this thread even watches AF.Nick "I'm not a fed" Fuentes told his audience to go get a job and keep a low profile so they can keep sending him money? Imagine my shock.
You could argue this mindset helped foster the problems in this country to begin with.
The amount is just too coincidental. It’s like the feds had been getting BTFO’d by judges while requesting warrants and they said “ahhh, the $10,000 trick. That will get us entry into their lives. Tell Nick to do that”Imagine paying $10K to this grifter to literally dox you to the feds. Convenient amount he chose there.
That’s not entirely accurate. They build trust with you first and give you a lot of solid advice to do so. They later will exploit an incident to push you towards breaking a law.I mean, that isn't what feds do. Feds encourage people to break laws. Nick does the opposite of that. I'm fairly certain no one in this thread even watches AF.
kinda thought it was an anti-zog group. aren't feds gonna fester in like any group period in some ways? also, what about the rumor of there being mineral rich land they were living on that people wanted.Cool meme, but let's not forget that the FBI tried to assassinate the Weavers because Randy Weaver was involved in local right-wing politics.
I don't disagree with what your saying. The thing I'm taking issue is the notion is that this approach is going to be the magical solution to all the problems that we are facing in today's society. It is an important step to maintaining a healthy society, but we are going to need a lot more to get us out of the hole we are currently sitting in.I would argue the opposite. Much of America’s present woes took root in the post-Nuclear family era. WW1 and 2 had destroyed the tribal family (grandparents, parents and children living under a roof) by killing off grandfathers, uncles and cousins. Developments in transportation and factories placed more of an emphasis on uprooting the family and buying products. Grandparents were shipped off to nursing homes.
By the time the mid-late 60s rolled around you had Griswold v Connecticut legalizing contraception. Then comes the sexual revolution and Woodstock. The Vietnam War destroyed American Nationalism among a generation. Vatican II led to the decline of the Catholic Church in America. In 1969, California legalizes no fault divorce. Soon after you had Roe v. Wade.
Women entering the work force cut wages in half and led to the wide spread usage of baby formula, day care and nannies. No fault divorce removed the father from the home.
The first 3 years of child’s life will dictate their brain development and attachment to others. With their mothers away, the babies were placed with a disinterested (sometimes immigrant) stranger, drinking a synthetic milkshake or eating cereal containing arsenic and overstimulated by tv. After that they were placed in public school and/or day care to be raised by disinterested public servants.
When the daughters hit puberty, the mothers put them on birth control so they could take a hands off approach and not worry about a teen pregnancy. The parents didn’t care about their sons watching porn because at least he wasn’t knocking some girl up.
Then when the brats turned 18, the parents co-signed an expensive loan so the kid could be saddled with 5-6 figure debt on a worthless degree in an out of state school and take a low paying job afterward.
Does that sound like parents who took any sort of investment in the well-being of their children? Or does it sound like parents who consistently took the path of least resistance at the expense of their children’s physical, mental, financial (and spiritual) welfare?
But at least they bought their kids nice products. Probably why Gen X’ers and Millennials are so nostalgic for Marvel, Star Wars and video games; it’s the only thing that many of them fondly look back on from childhood.
The problem is that there will never be a right time for this kind of political movement. The establishment does not want their structures challenged. Smart strategy dictates there is a time and a place for everything, but simply running and hiding in the face of adversary is a sign weakness. No matter the time or the place they will be coming after you.tbf Nick has advised the majority of his audience to do exactly this. AFPAC is for people who want to get more directly involved. You do need people like that in a political movement. That said, I agree with Patrick that it's a bad idea right now.
While I don't disagree with a lot of what you're saying, I think you're placing way too much blame on the parents/older generations for following what was just the socially engineered 'correct & accepted' path mapped out for themselves. Even the forms of rebellion that existed never contained much that led to any "based" or different type of thinking until the internet existed,I would argue the opposite. Much of America’s present woes took root in the post-Nuclear family era. WW1 and 2 had destroyed the tribal family (grandparents, parents and children living under a roof) by killing off grandfathers, uncles and cousins. Developments in transportation and factories placed more of an emphasis on uprooting the family and buying products. Grandparents were shipped off to nursing homes.
By the time the mid-late 60s rolled around you had Griswold v Connecticut legalizing contraception. Then comes the sexual revolution and Woodstock. The Vietnam War destroyed American Nationalism among a generation. Vatican II led to the decline of the Catholic Church in America. In 1969, California legalizes no fault divorce. Soon after you had Roe v. Wade.
Women entering the work force cut wages in half and led to the wide spread usage of baby formula, day care and nannies. No fault divorce removed the father from the home.
The first 3 years of child’s life will dictate their brain development and attachment to others. With their mothers away, the babies were placed with a disinterested (sometimes immigrant) stranger, drinking a synthetic milkshake or eating cereal containing arsenic and overstimulated by tv. After that they were placed in public school and/or day care to be raised by disinterested public servants.
When the daughters hit puberty, the mothers put them on birth control so they could take a hands off approach and not worry about a teen pregnancy. The parents didn’t care about their sons watching porn because at least he wasn’t knocking some girl up.
Then when the brats turned 18, the parents co-signed an expensive loan so the kid could be saddled with 5-6 figure debt on a worthless degree in an out of state school and take a low paying job afterward.
Does that sound like parents who took any sort of investment in the well-being of their children? Or does it sound like parents who consistently took the path of least resistance at the expense of their children’s physical, mental, financial (and spiritual) welfare?
But at least they bought their kids nice products. Probably why Gen X’ers and Millennials are so nostalgic for Marvel, Star Wars and video games; it’s the only thing that many of them fondly look back on from childhood.
lmao, you've got to be fucking kidding me.Watching Nick's show from last night -- he describes AF as a "mafia organization" and says the movement going forward should take notes from the mob as an example of an organization under Fed persecution.
Retard cannot separate the Sopranos from reality
Frankly, there could be any number of reasons the feds went after the Weavers. The point is though, it wasn't just because they went into the woods to be left alone.kinda thought it was an anti-zog group. aren't feds gonna fester in like any group period in some ways? also, what about the rumor of there being mineral rich land they were living on that people wanted.
Given that any AmNat movement is automatically going to be flagged and the white race is going to be minority, what are the long term prospects of a mainstream political movement centered on America first and white racial identity?I don't disagree with what your saying. The thing I'm taking issue is the notion is that this approach is going to be the magical solution to all the problems that we are facing in today's society. It is an important step to maintaining a healthy society, but we are going to need a lot more to get us out of the hole we are currently sitting in.
The problem is that there will never be a right time for this kind of political movement. The establishment does not want their structures challenged. Smart strategy dictates there is a time and a place for everything, but simply running and hiding in the face of adversary is a sign weakness. No matter the time or the place they will be coming after you.
My entire issue with Nick is that I don't think he's a good leader for fighting against the status quo. He's hot-headed, dumb and a little too much of a sperg. He also comes across more and more of a grifter as time goes on.
This is one of the best posts I've read in all my years on the internet. It sums up why a generation of people are so completely fucked. It reminds me of the mouse Utopia stage where mice were raised with no parenting skills and simply didn't raise any children they had or killed them. Very few survived and even when taken out of the experiment to breed they found they were unable to be mothers even in a healthy environment.I would argue the opposite. Much of America’s present woes took root in the post-Nuclear family era. WW1 and 2 had destroyed the tribal family (grandparents, parents and children living under a roof) by killing off grandfathers, uncles and cousins. Developments in transportation and factories placed more of an emphasis on uprooting the family and buying products. Grandparents were shipped off to nursing homes.
By the time the mid-late 60s rolled around you had Griswold v Connecticut legalizing contraception. Then comes the sexual revolution and Woodstock. The Vietnam War destroyed American Nationalism among a generation. Vatican II led to the decline of the Catholic Church in America. In 1969, California legalizes no fault divorce. Soon after you had Roe v. Wade.
Women entering the work force cut wages in half and led to the wide spread usage of baby formula, day care and nannies. No fault divorce removed the father from the home.
The first 3 years of child’s life will dictate their brain development and attachment to others. With their mothers away, the babies were placed with a disinterested (sometimes immigrant) stranger, drinking a synthetic milkshake or eating cereal containing arsenic and overstimulated by tv. After that they were placed in public school and/or day care to be raised by disinterested public servants.
When the daughters hit puberty, the mothers put them on birth control so they could take a hands off approach and not worry about a teen pregnancy. The parents didn’t care about their sons watching porn because at least he wasn’t knocking some girl up.
Then when the brats turned 18, the parents co-signed an expensive loan so the kid could be saddled with 5-6 figure debt on a worthless degree in an out of state school and take a low paying job afterward.
Does that sound like parents who took any sort of investment in the well-being of their children? Or does it sound like parents who consistently took the path of least resistance at the expense of their children’s physical, mental, financial (and spiritual) welfare?
But at least they bought their kids nice products. Probably why Gen X’ers and Millennials are so nostalgic for Marvel, Star Wars and video games; it’s the only thing that many of them fondly look back on from childhood.
This is one of the best posts I've read in all my years on the internet. It sums up why a generation of people are so completely fucked. It reminds me of the mouse Utopia stage where mice were raised with no parenting skills and simply didn't raise any children they had or killed them. Very few survived and even when taken out of the experiment to breed they found they were unable to be mothers even in a healthy environment.
It's the same demographic Nick targets acting as a weird father figure and givingThis is one of the best posts I've read in all my years on the internet. It sums up why a generation of people are so completely fucked. It reminds me of the mouse Utopia stage where mice were raised with no parenting skills and simply didn't raise any children they had or killed them. Very few survived and even when taken out of the experiment to breed they found they were unable to be mothers even in a healthy environment.
I’d recommend this audio rendition of a chapter from Brian Niemeier’s book, “Don’t Give Money to People Who Hate You” where he tells the tale of your average Joe born in the early 80s and how he just falls through the cracks.It's the same demographic Nick targets acting as a weird father figure and giving them something to believe in.
globalist behavior and industrialization both awoke and smote the being of nationalism. The world is a soup and I do not think it is possible to avoid at all. People need to concentrate on their own quality of life, goals and structural/familial stability. We mostly get by with culture, we ain't Yugoslavia yet by far, and lots of mixing of cultures has been seen even in ancient times. Obviously there are problems that occur, but the system is activated and it is a machine that will not shut down. Economically, people require the world to be globohomo unfortunately. It is not so much that some old ideas and approaches are right or wrong, it is that they are outdated/obsolete. People have to recognize the paradigm that they are in in order to more effectively work within it. So you have people distracted by carrots and bashing their heads at the same points in the walls when the way the world exists is so far beyond what they could even possibly still be hoping to inhabit. Go live on a patch of land and grow turnips lol. go be monastic and savor an apple for over a period of hours. comb through valuable codexes of wisdom and superstition and forge your character. Jus' don't listen to any fucking suit with weird ass extended thumbs in front of a green screen, and take less than a grain of salt. Even progressivism is an old idea (if you were to criticize conservative ideas as 'old' as well), in that it's gotten way old hearing about the shit. Who cares if white race is minority. you're gonna be gone in 100 years and the world is going to be mist in billions of years. You're gonna feel your nerves deaden and your veins thrombose and your bones soften and creak and splinter. You're gonna have to be a fucking waterfall of a force for yourself and others to overcome this deathtrap that we call life, and try to savor every moment, and attempt to mitigate the suffering of your last one.Given that any AmNat movement is automatically going to be flagged and the white race is going to be minority, what are the long term prospects of a mainstream political movement centered on America first and white racial identity?
Immigrant families who come from religious, socially conservative countries are atomized and destroyed within two to three generations. At that point their children might as well be a lifelong establishment shills. Immigrant families that stick together and emphasize faith and family may be more amenable to socially conservative platforms especially in the current climate.
I think you can have a mainstream PAC that pushes for social conservatism but it’s never going to get off the ground if it’s anchored in white identity and anti-immigration. That’s not me simping for TPUSA, that’s just the honest truth in a post-1/6 movement which conflates with nationalism with DomTerr.
I mention families steeped in faith and community because I think you create a bigger and stronger coalition that advocates for social conservatism than you do with fledgling movements like Nick.
Hadn't listened to Fuentes much before this. Is he usually this disjointed? He seems like he's incriminating himself every other sentence.PPP, Godwinson and Hemmingford Grey analyzing AF
I'm not sure if this is how he's been lately. I haven't listened to him in over a year. It certainly didn't help him.Hadn't listened to Fuentes much before this. Is he usually this disjointed? He seems like he's incriminating himself every other sentence.