Things You Consider to be 'True'

Simply having been born is the problem, and that doesn't go away with suicide.

I was thinking more along the lines of people like Zapffe, who says that consciousness was an evolutionary mistake and advocates voluntary extinction.
 
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I was thinking more along the lines of people like Zapffe, who says that consciousness was an evolutionary mistake and advocates voluntary extinction.

This doesn't necessarily require or even imply suicide, though it certainly strongly suggests not reproducing.
 
I was thinking more along the lines of people like Zapffe, who says that consciousness was an evolutionary mistake and advocates voluntary extinction.
Why would we want to do that? If it's an evolutionary mistake then we'll be wiped out anyway.
 
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Saying something is an evolutionary mistake is stupid anyway. Evolution doesn't make mistakes. Something either adapts or it doesn't. It's not really a value judgement, and evolution is not an entity that cares about the security of the planet, its environment, personal happiness, etc.

I guess most of what I consider to be true was covered on the first page, but I consider very little things to be objectively true. Humanity just seems so diverse to me. You can't even say something so simple as "all humans need sunlight" because there are people who are allergic to the sun. All people need oxygen, I guess? Such truths are boring, but perhaps that's the nature of objective truth. And anyway I'm still not entirely convinced we're not all living in a computer simulation or something.
I do particularly agree with what @NobleGreyHorse said about sociopaths, I think they are a real issue to society. But at the same time, not always. Also
Child porn is awful. Fuck those people who make that shit.
 
Why would we want to do that? If it's an evolutionary mistake then we'll be wiped out anyway.

That's not exactly what I meant, I explained it poorly.

Consciousness was a mistake because it created a type of being that is unable to be truly 'conscious' but is also unable to tolerate knowing itself as a purely deterministic machine, is what he meant. So it creates the need for self-deception and absurdity.

He didn't think it was a 'mistake' in a Darwinian sense.
 
That's not exactly what I meant, I explained it poorly.

Consciousness was a mistake because it created a type of being that is unable to be truly 'conscious' but is also unable to tolerate knowing itself as a purely deterministic machine, is what he meant. So it creates the need for self-deception and absurdity.

He didn't think it was a 'mistake' in a Darwinian sense.
I think that's more an unforeseen consequence of our development past caveman stage, that we have the safety and time to sit around and ruminate existentially.
 
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Never underestimate to power of kindness.

I believe that being a good person with what you have will pull you through most situations. Those who cannot see past what you are to experience who you are, are people who aren't worth getting upset about. You still have to be alert - don't be naive kindness, be attentive kindness, since some people will try to take advantage of you. But these people are not everywhere and genuine kindness really does pay off. You will be a happier person for it, as cheesy as it sounds.

In addition I believe that in most situations, people always have something to bring to the table. We all have a role in our lives, something that we truly enjoy, something that truly makes us feel complete. Pursue that. It may not seem clear at first how it fits into the big picture. But take who you are, in your entirety, embrace it, and I believe you will find something that you truly enjoy and gives you purpose to your life.
 
That's not exactly what I meant, I explained it poorly.

Consciousness was a mistake because it created a type of being that is unable to be truly 'conscious' but is also unable to tolerate knowing itself as a purely deterministic machine, is what he meant. So it creates the need for self-deception and absurdity.

He didn't think it was a 'mistake' in a Darwinian sense.
Hm, that's interesting. I more or less think of myself as a purely deterministic machine and don't really believe in free will and such but it doesn't really stop me from thinking and acting like I have choices. I don't know if anyone ever could. But I feel like it's more out of habit than existential angst.
 
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Hm, that's interesting. I more or less think of myself as a purely deterministic machine and don't really believe in free will and such but it doesn't really stop me from thinking and acting like I have choices. I don't know if anyone ever could. But I feel like it's more out of habit than existential angst.
I would say that the mistake is that many people care that they are deterministic machines
 
Circles don't exist.
all shapes don't exist really, they are abstract ideas, like numbers

out of everything that can be known:
there are many facts that can never be known to a person (person in this case means any creature with the ability to know) in a specific place
there are many facts that can never be known to a person in a specific time.
and even with all these places accounted for.
there will be facts left unknown forever, and we can never know how much that is.
 
I do believe there is something greater or higher than us. That thing could range from God (if one does believe in deities) to nature to the universe itself. By higher or greater than us, I mean there is something that could always be there even if we were to die off. The universe was around long before man was around (whether one believes we were created or evolved from a common ancestor shared with chimpanzee's, the universe has been around longer than we have).
 
I consider my dick to be True

suck it faggots.

On another note, I believe in honor, the DIY ethics, being nice to people being nice to you, all that.
 
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the universe does not give you purpose nor take it away
purpose is given to you by yourself and others, and it is filtered by you.
purpose is the most important thing you have,
and to give it to someone else willingly is worse than saying you don't have a purpose.

now, being a human. there are social contracts and the like.
you will have to bend to someone else, but that's okay.
it's part of being a social animal.
people care about society to care about themselves
and societies care about it's members to care about itself.

you must put yourself first to care about society.
it's a strange interaction.
 
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I believe in the Illuminati and the idea that they can create undetectable mind controlled slaves.
 
When you face a situation that arises passion within you hold back and calm down. Your feelings aren't bad but if you jump to making a decision without proper thought then there is a good probability that you will not be making the right one. Once you are calm look over the evidence and then make a sober decision. If your decision goes against your feelings then it doesn't mean that you were wrong and are stupid but rather that you managed to build up the strength to overcome a destructive path. If your decision goes with with your feelings then it doesn't mean that you were right all along but rather it just means that by chance the largest path in your way was the correct one, your accomplishment was when you figured out which path was the correct one.
 
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I believe that is possible for us to not only cheat ageing and death but to cheat any hypothetical end of the universe. We've been lucky enough to come this far so why not go all the way?
 
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