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Karl der Grosse said:
Lol, those Lincoln Project faggots are all going down.
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They're basically in a position where no one likes them at all. They're too neocon for present day Democrats and Republicans hate them. They belonged back in the 1990s when Democrats were more centrist and would have accepted them without much comment.
 
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They're all grifters and/or deviants. I really hope some enterprising journalist brings up Rick Wilson's sick fuck piss fetishist son.

Also, "We're not going to open our books until TRUMP! opens his books" is not going to fly. I wonder who decided to pull the trigger on all this sudden coverage, was it TRUMP! or have the DNC decided that they can bully them out of the public sphere? Grifting was going on in a massive way, probably a host of other financial crimes. Well, if the media thinks the conservative base is going to shed a tear at the Lincoln Project getting John Wilkes Booth'd, they're sorely mistaken.
 
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They're all grifters and/or deviants. I really hope some enterprising journalist brings up Rick Wilson's sick fuck piss fetishist son.

Also, "We're not going to open our books until TRUMP! opens his books" is not going to fly. I wonder who decided to pull the trigger on all this sudden coverage, was it TRUMP! or have the DNC decided that they can bully them out of the public sphere? Grifting was going on in a massive way, probably a host of other financial crimes. Well, if the media thinks the conservative base is going to shed a tear at the Lincoln Project getting John Wilkes Booth'd, they're sorely mistaken.
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What's the story on Rick Wilson's son?
 
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A few years back a few far-right websites found Rick Wilson's son's "comedic" website. On it were remarkably angry and elaborate fantasies about being a pimp, slapping bitches around, and piss. A lot of piss. Pissing on women, pissing down women's throats, pissing on women's faces. He has young when he posted it, over a period of months, but IIRC he wasn't that young, he was 18 or older. I don't have any screenshots, but I'll look around and see if I can't find some.

People were calling Rick "Pissdad Wilson" for a while, if you ever see someone call him that, tip them a knowing wink.
 
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Consenticles said:
Russia would not be able to completely rebuild what it had; for instance, i do not believe they would be able to retake Baltic states or the more central European territories unless a total collapse of the power structures uniting central Europe occurs. They aren't in a position to really invade or occupy, as they have already been launching campaigns in more distant regions (Crimea, Chechnya) which have been quite the struggle. I see territorial gains for Russia, if they were to come, being the "prize" for choosing the right side in a major conflict.

For anyone interested in Russia's moves, and how the past is literally writing the present day policies, check out these posts I made about a year ago. Russia's present situation and how it relates to their longterm goals, whether they would side with China, and a lot of geography broken down here with some pretty pictures as a visual aid.

On land, resources,, etc: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/merke...us-no-longer-a-world-power.72296/post-6803925

On russia's military moves, the expansionist role it has carved out,, and why it is doing this: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/south-china-sea-and-chinese-military-developments.68791/post-6995964

On how Russia has the single corridor which leaves Beijing the most vulnerable. Aka: why the Chinese are likely to prioritize any alliance with Russia in order to secure this backdoor: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/south-china-sea-and-chinese-military-developments.68791/post-6998859

On the fluidity of the position Russia finds itself in: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/south-china-sea-and-chinese-military-developments.68791/post-6993528
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I'll start out with this: You are not wrong in a logical, level-headed assessment of the situation where everyone sits down and figures out who their natural allies are/should be and makes treaties and alliance based on that. I would then like to point out that in the real world, number the times when leaders make alliances along those terms is the extreme minority.

"Obviously being cousins and on friendly terms Wilhelm, Edward and Nicholas would unite to take on the rest of europe."
"There is no way that the Kaiser wouldn't call for an immediate truce to deal with communists which would be a greater threat to his nation and europe on a whole than a negotiated peace with UK & France"

Russia has dreams of world domination they cannot pull off for a variety of reasons. China does not, except in so much as China wants to secure resources for China and prevent anyone from meddling in Chinese affairs (which is fine for anyone who isn't inside the historically chinese borders. But sucks ass for Tibetians & Taiwanese. Muslims can go get fucked).
Everyone makes a big to-do about Belt & Road putting Africa under Chinese dominion for the next 100 years. What no one gets is that this went through with the permission of the Western mining giants - you pay a premium to China which is less costly than the PR campaign when someone posts a youtube about horrific conditions the local foremen force on the workers (which you had to turn control of the mine over to, because of the most recent sobbing about the 'legacy of colonialism'). And since China gives no fucks, instead of lazy corrupt africans, they send "meet quota or we'll murder your family" chinamen, so production is up.

I'll have mercy on everyone's fingers and spoiler tag this giant wall fence of text.

I will say this again, China doesn't want the US overthrown, or to become China, or w/e. They just want to ensure a freindly leader is installed, and would like to see us in a position where we can't stop them from invading from Taiwan. Its sort of like Arabs and Middle East; if we didn't stop the Arabs from creating literally anudda shoah in the Mideast, they wouldn't give two shits about the great satans in the west and would get back to the important business of killing each other.

China wants the US to continue to absorb their excess industrial output, because if China's economic growth doesn't keep pace with its population growth, they will have internal revolution on their hands. The CCP is aware of this, which is why the state clampdown on information is so severe, at 1.3 billion people the economies of scale are immense.
China DOES want to gut the American industrial and manufacturing economy - because doing that makes the US dependent on China, giving the Chinese a non-military lever to pull to control the US.

I'm going to keep this post at a reasonable length by just saying that the situation in China is starting to change as they absorb Western ideals and the concept of Mandate of Heaven moves to a more secular and less Confucian definition.

I also want to point out that shit could interesting after 2035. If you read reports of China vs. India on the everest approach, you'll see the real consequences of China's One Child Policy.

I'm going to tl;dr this hard, PM or Profile me if you're thirsty for more.
Traditional Chinese culture puts all emphesis on the male's line & ancestors. If you kill off all male heirs to a branch, that branch is dead forever. To this end, the One Child Policy (which was never really a One Child Policy, but I'm not going into that) made families dependent on the state. With only one child, you needed to make sure that Child was successful and didn't get arrested and executed for counter-revolutionary activities or your whole family, 4000 years +, was now all for nothing. This has created almost two generations of "chinese princes", spoiled kids getting the lot of the family's increasing income directed at them, and mom & dad making sure they don't take any risks and spawn male heirs.

This means the current crop of the People's Army are very, very opposed to dying for their country - especially on foreign soil.

In 2015 China recongized what was happening with the first wave, and repealed the policy. This wave will turn 18 in 2035 or so, and might lead to a more aggressive Chinese military - if not a more aggressive China itseld.

I will spill less ink fewer pixels on Russia because the Russian motivations are much easier to understand for the average shitlord on here.

Russia wants to control Europe - they view it as a destiny. They want to have the US a Poland/Hungary/Romania style puppet. The problem is that USSR was about as big as they could get without being ripped apart by internal power grabs. Russia is more or less run by Russian Organized Crime, as fronted by the Oligarchs. So they don't so much want control of these places so much as they want unlimited wealth and power. Its a fine line, but its different.

No Russian leader could ever get into power and then say "Seizing Crimea was wrong. We are returning it to Ukraine, and withdrawing all support for the separatists." because assuming they weren't straight up killed, they'd be removed from power for seeming weak.

There is a particular Russian mindset of enlighted sociopathy & wanton disregard of self that grew up, because Russia hasn't had good leadership since the 1300s when the Mongols rolled through. When the Mongols rolled through, they didn't claim any divine right, or they were over throwing a despot, or liberation. No, they made it clear the Russian peoples were their war prize, and they only existed to provide goods and services to their Mongol overlords. The Mongols were only overthrown by the first Czars, or prince, of Moscow - who to that point had been a Mongol vassal (because directly exploiting the people was too much work, so they outsources it) and overthrew the Mongols by out-mongoling them.
Basically the average Russian hasn't had a government what wasn't nakedly exploiting them for personal gain since at least the 1300s, when their naked exploitation was couched behind some type of religion; and then combine this with the harsh Russian winters and you have a population so completely beaten down by a superior force, as long as the force is superior, they just go along with it, because anyone who wasn't of that mindset left or was killed over the past 1000 years.

The key point is the "as long as the force is superior"; who cares if your body is being used to build a staircase to victory - because you're going to die pointlessly anyway - as long as it is the victor who's doing it. So this is why Putin has to be Putin. If he is ever not Putin, he will be replaced. The Russians put up with this, because at least the trains run on time he's making Europe look like a bunch of fags.

So what does that have to do with our stupid wargaming where January 6 had turned into FULL Bugaloo?

Basically neither Russia nor China would be in any position to do anything if Bison Man had become the next John Adams. Niether would have had assets in place, or forces positioned. And this is why this bunch of retards has the elites so panicked - no one saw it coming.

Anyway, Russia would likely sit it out, most likely using the distraction to escalate Syria and shore up positions in Ukraine (Ukraine escalation would potentially provoke Europe who might do something panicky and stupid since America might not be able to bail them out). China would be making deals with both sides at first and then likely jump to the horse most likely to win. China would probably like to use the chaos to make a move on Taiwan, but wouldn't have any forces in place to exploit it. If CW2 drug out for 2/3 years, its possible they might.

Europe would be the real X factor, but more than likely they would do exactly what they did the first time, which would be not to get involved except by issuing statements and passing resolutions they would then actually ignore.

The real thing to consider with a speculative CW2 is that the US now has foreign obligations that they didn't have in 1861. The reason that is important is you see that Biden isn't able to completely reverse course on China and Iran - because it has been explained to him that sudden and unprovoked changes in foreign policy are bad. So in a CW2 situation, you are likely to see Situations where both sides are forced to cooperate on things like forces deployed in Germany and Okinawa, since both sides will want those forward bases.

But really, post CW2, no matter who wins, everyone except for Iran is going to do whatever it takes to get the victor back up to playing World Police. Because as much as they hate America, they know that a global super power keeps everyone in line, and keeps everyone from looking at THEM.

China, but especially Russia, would likely be trying to get toe-holds with various post-CW resistance groups to keep the US off-balance and not unilaterally independent.

Sorry, conclusions a little spotty, but I figure everyone probably gave up mid way through the china post anyway.

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Nothing much would change unless the US completely devolves into destructive infighting for many years, to the point where the rest of the world is forced to adapt.
 
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Life is Hell... said:
I really hate Voice Actors sometimes
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Who the fuck cares what the voice of a gay cartoon horse thinks about politics? Most civilizations throughout history considered actors little better than prostitutes and I agree. Asking any kind of actor about their opinion on Trump is like asking the lot lizard at the local truck stop their opinion on Austrian Economics or the Lincoln/Douglas Debates.
 
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The Last Stand said:
I'm convinced that if they could 100% get away with it, they would kill Trump.
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They could get away with it, the issue is that they'd Martyr him. Same reason why no one tried to kill Obama, not even Hillary. It would make him a martyr and you don't want the masses rallying around a martyr demanding blood, fire, and death of those who killed him.

I've mentioned before, that I am sure (((they))) fully regret not assassinating Obama when (((they))) had the chance at the start of his second term. Off him in 2013, before Gamergate and when gamers and other nerds were still loyal to the left and blind to the left's corruption and weaponize them to wipe out Trump and others with Biden being put into the role of Judas Goat to install all of the fascist shit that would allow Hillary to be crowned Queen and ruler of the Thousand Year SJW Reich in 2016.
 
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Pokemonquistador2 said:
Who the fuck cares what the voice of a gay cartoon horse thinks about politics? Most civilizations throughout history considered actors little better than prostitutes and I agree. Asking any kind of actor about their opinion on Trump is like asking the lot lizard at the local truck stop their opinion on Austrian Economics or the Lincoln/Douglas Debates.
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They are no different from movie actors they are all out of touch douchebags who think they are better than everyone
It wouldn’t surprise me if they weren’t bullied enough as children
It’s disgusting and it shows they are part of the swamp or at least a divisional of said swamp
 
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