UK People with learning disabilities told they would not be resuscitated if they became ill with COVID-19, says leading charity - Ok is it just the borderline vegetables or does that include anyone with even the slightest case of dyslexia?



People with learning disabilities are still being given do-not-resuscitate (DNR) orders in England despite widespread condemnation of the practice leading to an investigation by the Care Quality Commission (CQQ).

Charity, Mencap, told The Guardian that many with learning disabilities were told they would not be resuscitated if they got ill from COVID-19 without their or their family's consent in January.

A DNR is a medical order instructing health care providers not to do CPR if a patient stops breathing or heart stops.

Mencap CEO Edel Harris told The Guardian: "Throughout the pandemic, many people with a learning disability have faced shocking discrimination and obstacles to accessing healthcare, with inappropriate Do Not Attempt Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation (DNACPR) notices put on their files and cuts made to their social care support."

According to NHS figures, around 1,220 people with a learning disability have died from coronavirus since February 2020, including 40 of them during the week ending January 29, 2021.

It comes after a Public Health England report from November 2020 found those with learning disabilities had a 6.3 times higher death rate than the general population during the first COVID-19 wave.

Those aged 18 to 34 with learning disabilities aged are 30 times more likely to die of COVID-19 than others their age, the report added.

Harris told The Guardian: "It's unacceptable that within a group of people hit so hard by the pandemic, and who even before Covid died on average over 20 years younger than the general population, many are left feeling scared and wondering why they have been left out."

The Learning Disabilities Mortality Review (LeDer) report revealed that 65% of people with a learning disability who died from coronavirus in the first wave had a mild or moderate one.

Those with a severe or profound learning disability are sixth in line for the vaccine. People with mild or moderate learning disabilities are not prioritized. Mencap has called for this to change.

It estimates that including those with mild or moderate learning disabilities would only be an additional 100,000 to 200,000 people.
In 2018, the British Medical Journal estimated that 1,200 people with a learning disability die avoidably in the NHS every year.
 
So in the last few years they have stated that they will limit/refuse health services to the obese, smokers, anyone who makes racist comments to staff and now are refusing care to people with learning disabilities.
"Learning disabilities" Being anything from a sexy potato JFG would like to put a babby in to basic dyslexia.


I ♥️ the NHS, top tier universal* healthcare.


*Some exceptions may apply.
 
I've been trying to find out if this would include thigs like dyslexia and adhd. I suspect it does.

I do love the smell of an NHS scandal in the morning.

I can't even pay for him to have the best possible care and doctors that'll try to save his life?
Private healthcare does exist in the UK, despite the best efforts of the labourites and the "tory" left.
 
This reminds me of something that happened at the hospital where I worked. I mention it here, because it highlights the difficulty in communicating with cognitively-impaired patients, and the importance of there being motivated next of kin who will go to bat on the behalf of these individuals.

There were these two brothers, both in their late teens, both dying from the same rare neurological condition that had left them with severe mental impairment. They had been normal children and then, one after the other, they fallen to this illness. I felt so sorry for their mother. She was a prickly character, but she was doing what she thought was right for her boys and making sure they got everything they needed. She knew they were going to die, but she never stopped fighting for them.

I think it was the younger of the two siblings who passed first. One day, the surviving brother was asked a question by a nurse. She couldn't understand his answer and so called over some more nurses who couldn't understand what he was saying either. Several junior doctors and consultants were summoned. They couldn't work it out either. Eventually, the boy's mother was able to translate for them:

He was instructing the assembled medical professionals to: "Kiss my arse."

The scouring of mental health services in the UK has been a serious problem for a long time. If cancer or heart disease had been underfunded in a similar manner it would be a public scandal. People with mental health issues often can't speak up for themselves and so these problems get overlooked and under-reported, and you get situations like the one described in the article.

When I was working at the hospital, there was no mental health consultant on-site. There were a couple of mental health nurses, but no doctors. Once a week, a mental health consultant would visit from a nearby psychiatric hospital, which did not have a terribly good reputation. During this visit they were able to see a grand total of two patients. That's two patients per week in facility that, at the time, catered to a maximum of around 800-900.
 
For some reason I thought this was old news. Like they gave everyone a blanket DNR order for fears that CPR will spread Dudley Varus?
I can't believe the comments I'm reading. Are you guys seriously questioning The Experts, The Science, and our All-Loving Government? I bet you guys are a bunch of Qtards who thinks that they want to kill off populations of people they find undesirable, too!
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For some reason I thought this was old news.
Half new news to me. I remember hearing about triage and forced DNRs, but I was under the impression it was US only. I never realized that was an international phenomena.

Also depending on who you asked at the time it was fake news and doctors were selfless heroes who would never allow someone to die just to reduce their own chance of infection and preserve some PPE.

At least for me, the concept is old but the scope and confirmation are new.
 
The UK is a kafkaesque nightmare.
I did some volunteer work for the NHS (back when I wanted to be a doctor.) for my degree; and it literally is like something from a kafka film. There was a 'ward' which was literally a hospital corridor; and it was full of 'beds' which were just trolleys with their wheels removed. A woman got fasttracked for an ingrown toenail surgery, while there was a woman waiting three months for a tumour to be removed before it became cancerous. Shit was insane.

The government imposes top down 'targets' about patient flow, bed numbers, ward fullness and patient care; which results in staff acting to reach the targets rather than to help the patients. Depressing stuff really.
 
I did some volunteer work for the NHS (back when I wanted to be a doctor.) for my degree; and it literally is like something from a kafka film. There was a 'ward' which was literally a hospital corridor; and it was full of 'beds' which were just trolleys with their wheels removed. A woman got fasttracked for an ingrown toenail surgery, while there was a woman waiting three months for a tumour to be removed before it became cancerous. Shit was insane.

The government imposes top down 'targets' about patient flow, bed numbers, ward fullness and patient care; which results in staff acting to reach the targets rather than to help the patients. Depressing stuff really.
Are you trying to tell me government mandated Socialist universal health care. Doesn't work
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I did some volunteer work for the NHS (back when I wanted to be a doctor.) for my degree; and it literally is like something from a kafka film. There was a 'ward' which was literally a hospital corridor; and it was full of 'beds' which were just trolleys with their wheels removed. A woman got fasttracked for an ingrown toenail surgery, while there was a woman waiting three months for a tumour to be removed before it became cancerous. Shit was insane.

The government imposes top down 'targets' about patient flow, bed numbers, ward fullness and patient care; which results in staff acting to reach the targets rather than to help the patients. Depressing stuff really.
From what I understand, prospective doctors there have to do an insane residency that often involves working 24 hour shifts. It's bad to the point that a lot of aspiring doctors apparently move to Australia.
 
From what I understand, prospective doctors there have to do an insane residency that often involves working 24 hour shifts. It's bad to the point that a lot of aspiring doctors apparently move to Australia.
Yeah. I lost literally all my interest in being an MD after doing my time there. My degree is still in life sciences, I just won't work for the NHS.
 
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