The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

Not really i dont want to fuck fetuses. Fetuses are far more human than femoids. that's all

I mean i nearly got a restraining order for beating up a foid.

what do you mean like on accident or a foid letting me touch her tits?


Yahwehist hillbilly profligates like you belong on a cross.

A fringe case exception doesn't disprove the rule. Easy access to birth control and abortions leads to thottery.

If the main consequence of sex, having a child, is removed from the equation- it allows women to slut it up. That being one of the main signs of the moral decay we see in society today.

Also your significant other getting knocked up unexpectedly isn't a be-all-end-all scenario. Having parenthood thrust upon you is a damn quick way to mature as a person.

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I mean, that kind of follows as common sense, doesn't it? Many, if not most, women in committed relationships are having sex, so they are the ones most likely to get pregnant. However, that doesn't mean the woman isn't, say, sleeping around behind their spouse or partner, or engaging in serial monogamy. It doesn't make them less of a thot.


True, but back in the day, doing that carried consequences. Also, birth control itself is ancient, as is abortion. For as long as we have lived on this Earth, mankind has been trying to find a way to have sex, and yet avoid responsibility for it. However, there is no getting around the fact that its easier to avoid the consequences now than ever before, so we are seeing far more out of wedlock pregnancies, single mother homes, and abortions, than at any other time in our history. The existence of easy birth control, along with the deterioration of sexual mores has caused mankind to get collectively sloppy.


Unless you are talking about rape, no pregnancy is forced. If you have sex, getting pregnant is a known consequence of that. If you don't know that, you shouldn't be having sex, period, because you're probably too young for it anyway. If you have sex still knowing that, you are taking what we call a "calculated risk". Unless you are being raped, nobody is forcing you to open your legs and take a dick inside of you, and nobody is forcing that guy to thrust into you. Force doesn't enter into the equation. Pregnancy is a natural consequence of your actions which you either didn't take into account at your peril, or you did, and decided it was worth it. So no ones going to show you sympathy if your actions result in something that was easily foreseeable and avoidable.


All of those are possibilities, as are a million other things. We can't know what will happen because none of us can predict the future. And none of us should be deciding to end a human life based on what could possibly happen over the course of an entire life we can't even foresee. None of us are God, none of us can suddenly make a judgment that this child's life is destined to amount to nothing just because the circumstances of its birth are not ideal.


And that's their decision, one they will have to live with for the rest of their lives. But it is a decision, not an eventuality, and it still doesn't take away from the fact that they are murdering their child.


I would rather have birth control than abortions. Which is why I don't oppose birth control completely. But as has already been said, no birth control is 100% safe, and people shouldn't rely on it. And I oppose universal access to birth control because birth control is a product, and should be paid for like all others. The state shouldn't subsidize things like that. If you need it, buy it. Many forms of it, like condoms, aren't that expensive, and its the choice of the people whether or not to use it, or whether or not they will even need it.

But, at the end of the day, if one wants to avoid pregnancy altogether, one can do one of two things: use forms of sex that don't lead to pregnancy (oral, anal, intercrural, etc.) or just abstain from it until you are absolutely okay with having a child. Seriously, just don't have sex. If you must get off, pull up some porn and wank. Everybody's doing that now, even women. People act like its impossible to just not have sex, but it really isn't. And if you choose to have sex and don't take the proper precautions, whatever happens afterward is on you.
Bunch of redneck puritans in this thread. You guys are just as bad as the euphoric atheist tards.

The Edict of Milan and its consequences have been a disaster for the entire Western civilization.

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You still haven't answered my single question and think I would concern myself feom looking up back the source for something I'm sharing with someone else for you?

You're audacious, I'll tell you that much.
I answered your question, you keep pretending I haven't. I didn't give you the answer you liked then so I honestly don't know what you're looking for, I've repeated myself so many fucking times it's getting old hearing "oh ur cool with killing babby" when that's not the point and you're too dense because you want to hear what you want to justify your reasoning, whatever that is because I haven't seen any.

You, on the other hand, have constantly avoided actually showing or proving in any way how a fetus actually *is*, at any stage, a baby or even human at all. Here's a hint: it's not possible because functionally they are never the same, and potentiality is not a good case because everything has a potential. Make your case, we're all waiting.
 
I was wondering where this thread was.

1) giving birth is a natural process. Cutting organs out of people, or whatever the pro-abortion gotcha du jour is, is not.
2) it's funny to see pro-abortionists argue for bodily autonomy when they support infringing on the bodily autonomy of the unborn.
Cancer is natural, cutting it out is unnatural. By your logic, anyone who has cancer can go fuck themselves because this is a consequence of living. You weren't the brightest in your class, were you?

E: on mobile, pls excuse my retarded double post lol
 
Yahwehist hillbilly profligates like you belong on a cross.
OK Redneck
Bunch of redneck puritans in this thread. You guys are just as bad as the euphoric atheist tards
You weren't the brightest in your class, were you?
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Cancer is natural, cutting it out is unnatural. By your logic, anyone who has cancer can go fuck themselves because this is a consequence of living. You weren't the brightest in your class, were you?
From the moment it's conceived, an unborn baby is a member of the human race, fulfils all the seven processes of life and has a unique set of genes. It is therefore a living human distinct from its mother, and killing it is therefore murder. Cancerous cells are not genetically distinct from the body they grow on, and so they're just another body part - a ”clump of cells”, if you will.

You're on the internet, so you have access to more information about abortion and cancer than even most abortionists or oncologists know. If you can prove any of what I've said wrong, please feel free to do so.
 
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Except MovieBob is an atheist Yankee who only has his views so he can trigger and own the cons.

I actually had the misfortune of growing up in Appalachia in the 90's and 2000's and I'm not an atheist. And before you try to strawman me, my parents weren't fundies who tried to ban The Simpsons or vidya or whatever. Matter of fact, my parents were kind of liberal by comparison to everyone else around me.
 
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You are Moviebob and I claim my £5.

From the moment it's conceived, an unborn baby is a member of the human race, fulfils all the seven processes of life and has a unique set of genes. It is therefore a living human distinct from its mother, and killing it is therefore murder. Cancerous cells are not genetically distinct from the body they grow on, and so they're just another body part - a ”clump of cells”, if you will.

You're on the internet, so you have access to more information about abortion and cancer than even most abortionists or oncologists know. If you can prove any of what I've said wrong, please feel free to do so.
Someone's mad I proved their logic wrong, guess I'm the mad one. uwu so angwy.

Right I guess if someone dropped a fetus, pretty much any mammal fetus, in your hand that was at 0-8 weeks you'd instantly, and miraculously recognize what it was and go "omg u killed a huuumaaaaaan" without any research. Sure jan. They're all similarly shaped blobs.

Outside of those weeks, how are they still even human at that point? They can't breathe, eat with their mouth, piss or shit like a normal human (if you really want to go through the effort of exceptions, prepare yourself). It's gross, inhuman, and the fact it shares some aspects of a human, does not a human make. My dog is more human than a fetus.

Fetuses are similar to cancer in how they grow.
 
Outside of those weeks, how are they still even human at that point? They can't breathe, eat with their mouth, piss or shit like a normal human (if you really want to go through the effort of exceptions, prepare yourself). It's gross, inhuman, and the fact it shares some aspects of a human, does not a human make. My dog is more human than a fetus.
This is the same argument that the Nazis used to justify murdering the mentally disabled.
 
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The Nazi years are then discussed in terms of abortion and birth control policies and practice in the period 1933-39 and in the war years 1939-45. The former period was characterized by the suppression of the birth control movement, increasing restrictions on grounds for legal abortion, and severe penalization of performers of illegal abortions. During the war, racial grounds were virtually the only basis for legal abortion, numbers of illegal abortions rose abruptly, and penalties were severe.
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Sounds like you're promoting Nazi things as well if you're not allowed an abortion under certain circumstances even if you didn't want that baby because your precious Reich needs more "pure" babies. How does it feel when you tell others to Google and won't do it yourself.
 
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Scratch a pro-abortionist and a eugenicist bleeds.
What?? Idk what you're trying to say but I've given you 2 studies and you haven't given one to prove anything right. Nazis forced abortions, I'm not about that. You're into forcing a pregnancy to continue once it starts, like Nazis.

Idk man. I love reading a good study but you sure do rarely see any in favor of pro-life. Is science that scary?
 
What?? Idk what you're trying to say but I've given you 2 studies and you haven't given one to prove anything right. Nazis forced abortions, I'm not about that. You're into forcing a pregnancy to continue once it starts, like Nazis.

Idk man. I love reading a good study but you sure do rarely see any in favor of pro-life. Is science that scary?
You said that two disabled children should be killed and then edited your post.

Bitch, how stupid do you think we are?
 
You said that two disabled children should be killed and then edited your post.

Bitch, how stupid do you think we are?
I usually edit my posts to change a word because you guys love semantics, or I add another sentence or 2 to something that's already very short.

I would love to see you have to take care of a pair of kids akin to the hartley hooligans and be enthusiastic for 14 years. You never would admit that honestly, though, that you would absolutely hate it as do most of those families that actually are stuck in that situation.

But no, let's focus on how I'm promoting eugenics somehow and slightly editing my posts. If there were an edit history you'd see I'm not trying to put an entire spin on things like you think I am.
 
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So you're saying we should kill poor people's babies?

When you're in a hole, it's a good idea to stop digging.
You keep reaching. We don't need to kill what's already there*. We could, however, stop this cycle and help what we already have. Those that really want a baby can have one, those that don't want it don't need to be forced to go through with the entire process.

I don't know how much clearer I need to make this for you. This was never about murdering babies. It's about you guys trying to murder futures and possibilities.

*Born babies not fetuses because you can't tell the difference

ETA: because you're retarded and think i'm editing a whole spin in, I added the asterisk and explanation part.
 
This was never about murdering babies.
Yes it was. Life begins at conception. You support ending that life. Wilfully ending human life is called murder.
It's about you guys trying to murder futures and possibilities.
Can you pro-abortionists try to not sound like Kino Roberto for 5 seconds?
 
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