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Fangz just went for the design that supposedly pandered to lolicons

Is it me, or is it that when people try to point fingers, yelling "lolicons", "paedophiles" with the intention of gathering attention, that they are the paedophiles themselves? Maybe not Fangz specifically, but that kind of behaviour always seemed suspicious to me.
 
Not giving that cockroach the time of day, but if anyone wants to know who he's talking out, it's Fangz. I'm trying to scroll through her Twitter to find the bullshit she was talking about but that's taking a bit too much effort without proper dates of referral, so have some screenshots courtesy of a Discord friend.

And judging by this stuff: Yes, she was in fact one of the ringleaders who had it out for Kyuotto before she even debuted. Hell, apparently Kyuotto had been an art tracer and then apologized to the artists she traced long before she decided to get the avatar (search feature is your friend, kids) but some people couldn't let that shit go either; Fangz just went for the design that supposedly pandered to lolicons. I'm sure she would have gotten along GREAT with Gura and Luna.

How this cunt has any following is beyond me.

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How to be a twitter grifter:
1) Complain that Corporate Vtubers are only "successful" because they have corporate backing

2) Claim that being indie is far better than being corporate

3) Complain that you would be far more successful if only you had company backing

4) repeat step 1


Also, why are Hololive fans exclusively the lolicons?

Nijisanji has loli characters and Vshoujo's Nyanners and Ironmouse are loli-eqsue
 
Why does everyone seem to dislike Kiara? I haven't had time to watch her streams.
Personally saw her as the easiest person to watch in HoloEn. While it is absolutely true that her yuri-baiting with Calli can be very cringy, she's energetic and really engaged with her audience. It also helps that while she does play up her coomerbait, she didn't went complete "muh tits and cummies" like other ENvtuber, making it feel less of a pandering at least.
 
From her talking about time of day, she is definately in the Central time zone. But that does cover a rather wide area.

It would be interesting to start a new rrat that Gura is racist and that is why she doesn't do collaborations with JP to see how far it spreads. (I have no proof of that either way)
Keep your retarded gayops ideas to yourself. We point and laugh at other people's drama, we don't try to manufacture it on our own.
 
Also, why are Hololive fans exclusively the lolicons?

Nijisanji has loli characters and Vshoujo's Nyanners and Ironmouse are loli-eqsue
Hololive has Gawr Gura and she's kinda starting to get adopted by Chan culture. Likewise, Yagoo is more likely to tell them to go fuck themselves if controversies come up since his business model is more like traditional idol marketing which naturally places the Japanese market first. Basically, they've become the "problematic" company.
The game require that you pay attention to it but she is playing it like she did Superliminal aka bumrushing
Just tuned in but I think she's about at the alloha snakbar part.
 
In Gura's current Papaer, Please stream. Gura is spending 5 6 7 minutes with the funny drug guy because she can't read the instruction. Mori try to tard wrangling her by backseatting, still didn't work.

edit. She did it. yay. and her entire family is dying.
edit. Credit when credit's due. She deal with that track start who murder his gf relatively quickly. She's getting better.
 
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She is stuck in the first Jorji meeting she is wasting like 20 minutes because she doesnt know how to reject him without the passport, freaking CALLI has to come to explain it to her and she still doesnt get it
Bet Calli gonna sharper her scythe because how painful the stream is.scythe
In Gura's current Papaer, Please stream. Gura is spending 5 6 7 minutes with the funny drug guy because she can't read the instruction. Mori try to tard wrangling her by backseatting, still didn't work.
How turn table.
 
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Man, that sounds more painful than watching takamori be absolute trash at Tetris
I'm okay with takamori tetris playthrough cuz you have to thinks fast and efficient to put the block even you dumb. But this, this, you need to pay attention with all of the document and you just being dumb it's very painful to watch.
 
How to be a twitter grifter:
1) Complain that Corporate Vtubers are only "successful" because they have corporate backing

2) Claim that being indie is far better than being corporate

3) Complain that you would be far more successful if only you had company backing

4) repeat step 1


Also, why are Hololive fans exclusively the lolicons?

Nijisanji has loli characters and Vshoujo's Nyanners and Ironmouse are loli-eqsue
Coming from the indie perspective, both the corporate side and the indie side have their issues to deal with. You have far less freedom as a corporate Vtuber but trade that off in spades for resources and are incredibly well protected. As an indie, you have complete creative freedom but that also means you don't have the safety net or the resources that a corporate backing would allow. I specifically chose not to try and go corporate because I valued the freedom too much but I don't fault others that want to get into hololive and get that Cover money.

Also, Fangz wasn't going after fans of hololive; she was going after fans of Kyuotto. As a few people here can justify, it was completely unfounded since Kyuotto is just fine as a streamer and doesn't play up that angle.

Bear in mind Fangz also hasn't created any content at all. She says she streams for friends, but what that really means is that she goes into private Discords with like 10 people and sits her ass in a screen sharing channel and plays shit there. I will sometimes do that just to get around bullshit like copyright in games like Tony Hawk but I don't consider that streaming. That's just me relaxing with some buddies. Somehow she still has an active Patreon for sitting around doing nothing; she is a very old-school grifter.

Just to insult this bitch more: a friend of mine is strongly considering Vtubing and has been bouncing ideas off me for bit in terms of what to do with her character, what platform to use, etc. and is only really hampered by a complete lack of competent equipment to stream; she has a several years old laptop and a shitty Xbox mic but she's still doing preplanning for the character and I wish her the best of luck. Much like our dear friend Fangz here, she also has unmedicated and untreated ADHD. Her response to reading that fucking diatribe was that if all you ever do is plan and never act, it's still just procrastination and you'll never do anything.
 
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