General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[ClownShoes]

Is it just me or does the Hololive Alternative logo look like AOL’s?

 

[Blatant hypocrite]

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The sideways triangle is similar too, Illuminati confirmed.

 

[The One And Only SALTE]

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Ame made that joke by posting the AIM logo to her Twitter.

More screenshots. Not sure where my buddy gets this shit from but big ups to him for pulling this shit together.

This project is a full on seasonal anime about the girls being vtubers to hide their isekai nature.

 

[RiverBear]

The Kiara being a lefty is old news and shouldn't surprise anyone. She and all of EN are young white women along with the token asian, stats say they're all likely lefties.

I don't get it. Since when was being liberal a bad thing.

Should've just posted the whole thing:

https://twitter.com/hololivealt

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alt.hololive.tv

Jesus fucking Christ Cover, you have actual professional singers in your company and you have Mori of all people sing

Might have as well doubled down and had Noel and Amelia for the S O U L

 

[SmugPeko]

Indeed, but looking bad Kiara was performing really bad at the start. She ain't pro streamers like Gura or Ame, or have any particularly selling talent like Ina's drawing or Calli's rapping. The only thing she got going on is that she can speak Japanese better than everyone in the group (which useless with one month ban) and Calli yuri bait, which she relies really badly at the start. There's also already a rrat that she was supposed to be HoloJP 5th gen and yadda yadda, so who knows what happen behind the curtain then.

How exactly is she performing really bad at the start?

 

[Green Oil]

Fucking YAGOO of course we want Holostars Concert, get them fucking 3D!!

 

[Fcret]

I dunno why people sperg over Kiara's age in particular when something like half the hologirls are late 20s/early 30s. It's not like anyone in this thread is going to be making babies with the chicken anyway so it's not much of a talking point.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Just to be completely clear. . . this was in response when she straight out said accidentally, that she wanted to go home from Austria.

Also, Austrians wouldn't necessarily consider what they speak High German, which is the regional dialect that includes almost of all of southern Germany as well. In her case, saying that she doesn't speak High German would be like me saying I don't speak New English.

Based on what other people are saying, the dialects apparently don't jive, and I had the misfortune of watching the original source for that enough to see that she doesn't outright even admit to being from Austria. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sq6TcSuZPc&t=10258s
That aside, it gets well away from the original point that I was making that the evidence seems rather circumstantial, and if you dig into it in the same autistic degrees as the people alleging it do, things really do start to fall apart. For instance, if she were Kiara, she'd be making an absolute killing on Youtube.

Yet if you go to Keekihime's channel, it's obvious she's living in budget hotels and just barely getting by as she approaches the inevitable wall and induction into catladydom.

 

[Big PiPi Energy]

Kiara=Keeki is certainly much, much stronger than many other vtuber dox which are taken to be fact. Calli's is based on rapping+voice+2 languages, which is certainly a lot weaker than 3 languages+voice+country. Ina's is based on artstyle+languages, I'm not even sure if her roommate ever released her voice. Gura, Amelia and basically all of JP are connected by voice and mannerisms alone to defunct accounts that have never acknowledged Cover or Hololive in any way.

In particular Gura's "extended dox" is based on a phone case and a voice-acting job she never actually did. It conflicts with her claimed geographical location and even her voice to an extent, she has never acknowledged it in any way other than DFE on her old accounts. The only reason we believe it is because she went paranoid after someone dug it up and called her dad or something. If you want to question a dox you should probably start from there.

I'd argue that some of those are much stronger than you say. I mean Gura being Senzawa is rock solid. The 'A' tweet, the cowboy in her debut thumbnail, the way she sang country roads..all Senzawa references. As for the face doxx, that's debatable. But there is no debate that she is Senzawa. Unless..she's doing it to mislead people, which is much less likely.

If you watch any of Sachi's old streams, she does everything Amelia does. The voice, the gremlin noises, she even plays the same games. Less solid, but still pretty damn convincing evidence.

As for Calli..she literally put a dice rolling sound at the end of her debut song. She wanted people to know.

 

[ZMOT]

but I don't see much coming out using Matsuri or Haato for instance.

you say that now, but wait till they splice single frames of haachama cooking into it fight club style.

 

[Gravemind]

How exactly is she performing really bad at the start?

Started as one of the least popular of Hololive EN, plagued left and right by tech issues within the first month, had a meltdown at least once because of this, and she hadn't seemed to demonstrate anything noteworthy other than "She thirsts for Calli, she is literally the loudest member in EN, and she can speak German and Japanese fluently in addition to English".

 

[Gath]

How exactly is she performing really bad at the start?

mostly down herself by how overwhelming her gen mates are in term of talents and skills, so she thought she doesn't have much to compare with them specially while the one month ban still going and she couldn't put her Japanese skill into good use, this led to her breakdown and cried in one of the old stream

 

[ThatDumbPhilosopher]

mostly down herself by how overwhelming her gen mates are in term of talents and skills, so she thought she doesn't have much to compare with them specially while the one month ban still going and she couldn't put her Japanese skill into good use, this led to her breakdown and cried in one of the old stream

That's quite sad...

 

[Fcret]

you say that now, but wait till they splice single frames of haachama cooking into it fight club style.

I am Haato's food poisoning

 

[Renmai]

Based on what other people are saying, the dialects apparently don't jive, and I had the misfortune of watching the original source for that enough to see that she doesn't outright even admit to being from Austria. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sq6TcSuZPc&t=10258s
That aside, it gets well away from the original point that I was making that the evidence seems rather circumstantial, and if you dig into it in the same autistic degrees as the people alleging it do, things really do start to fall apart. For instance, if she were Kiara, she'd be making an absolute killing on Youtube.

Yet if you go to Keekihime's channel, it's obvious she's living in budget hotels and just barely getting by as she approaches the inevitable wall and induction into catladydom.

lol There are clips of Kiara freaking out cus there was a rat her apartment and she has stated several times she lives in a shitty old apartment. Coco has said the same thing, renting a good place is hard in Japan as a foreigner.

 

[Deluxe]

wait hold on there are retards who actually think kiara isn't keekihime?

seriously? you need to do your bayesian reasoning reps if the normal course of action for someone falsely accused of being a famous person is to DFE, turn off comments and withdraw from social media instead of simply saying "no, that person isn't me."

 

[darkestraven]

Obsessing about metrics like subscribers, follow count on Twitter, view counts on videos, etc.

For holo most of the time it's someone else doing it on their behalf. Like arguing about growth rate of gura back when the race to the first million was heating up between her catfox and dog.

Kiara was numberfagging herself hard early on, something at least I personally had only seen twice since I got into Holo live, with the Akirose breakdown that went viral on reddit and led to her breakout and the time Coco told... Someone, holy fuck we were even talking about it a few days ago and I for get who it was, maybe Kanata?... To stop stressing about it because she's still seeing growth regardless. It also didn't make sense to a lot of us because if you looked at raw sub numbers she had already skyrocketed past most of the company, and her time as kiara could be measured in weeks. Imagine stressing out about your metrics when there's several people in the company that have less subscribers than the CEO.

It was Watame that Coco talked to about that surprisingly enough, and Coco seemed to have really gotten her point across well since I've never heard Watame mention it ever again. Was honestly one of the first videos that made me respect Coco quite a lot. (Even though her version of the story isn't accurate, that's beside the point) And I mean it's extra poignant considering Coco probably knows what it feels like to be the peasant "Vtuber" in her example.

 

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There are clips of Kiara freaking out cus there was a rat her apartment and she has stated several times she lives in a shitty old apartment.

Not only that, she talked about it in an early stream about how her spending habits were really cheap because it was ingrained into her by both having to work many jobs and being very much broke at certain points. I can't remember when it was said, but it was when people were throwing money at her to get a new computer wereabouts.

It would explain the 'cheap hotels' (My god you must habitually stay in the ritz if you call that shit a budget hotel)

In more fun news: Suisei is back and belting again in her updated home3d model.

Edit: mentioned that it was just a PV earlier and not leading to an anime. Sure Comet. . . we'll see.

 

[Cubaris]

Yet if you go to Keekihime's channel, it's obvious she's living in budget hotels and just barely getting by as she approaches the inevitable wall and induction into catladydom.

Kiara debuted on september. most of keekihime's video was recorded before kiara's debut, even her last video was recorded in early summer 2020.

 

[mr.moon1488]

lol There are clips of Kiara freaking out cus there was a rat her apartment and she has stated several times she lives in a shitty old apartment. Coco has said the same thing, renting a good place is hard in Japan as a foreigner.

lol, alright then. We're at the point at which seeing rats means you must be broke, which means you must be Keekihime. Screencap this, because I promise I'll live up to this. If Keekihime is Kiara, she will end up with a thread here because she's a crazy weeb getting closer to the wall, which also means closer to trooning out in modern times. Should that happen, tag me in that shit, and I'll come into the thread to apologize and admit I'm the lesser autist.