Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

Is JacobTMK the Fatman?

  • Yes! It's a deadringer!

    Votes: 305 13.2%
  • No! That's Dream!

    Votes: 1,713 74.1%
  • It's neither of them!

    Votes: 295 12.8%

  • Total voters
    2,313

It'd help if this post was ported over to the forum with all its links archived directly on-site.
Hope I haven't missed anything, but if I have for now let me know.

General gist of the post is that Dream knowingly dated a girl called Sambvnny (aka Glqmorous, lilbvnny, Thot etc.) and is trying to shield her and cover up how she would prey on underage people and chat with them in overtly sexual ways repeatedly. A few of those people came forward since then to give their stories about interacting with her and how she would often try to psychologically manipulate them. As it turns out, this Sam person was also one of the main people who gave Dream a lot of help with his Internet presence to begin with, including the design for his "character" and teaching him how to use Twitter and Instagram properly.

For brevity's sake I left out a few of the details that are explained in the r/dreamwastaken3 post anyways. Below are archives of a bunch of stuff referenced externally.

"very sensitive topics. i am here to inform. not trying to cancel anyone. but hold sam accountable. i am not a victim. just here to spread information to those who don’t have twitter."
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"this is @/ heroinnprincess on tik tok’s story. speaks about very sensitive topics."
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"in order to read the twitlonger, zoom in a little. some of the texts don’t have much context but they are all these that she said to him while they were dating."
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"another victim."
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https://archive.vn/MgEkk

"Sam sexting me whilst I was underage:"
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"when i talked to a girl"
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"When I accidentally told someone my real age whilst dating her"
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"when I talked to a girl :/"
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"when i stopped responding for 5 mins"
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LukeLovesCandy video - My Experience with Glqmorous/Thot/lilbvnny (Grooming)
I realised I had uploaded a copy with no audio whatsoever like a fucking retard and it's otherwise too large to upload directly. It's already quiet as fuck anyways and is almost 50 minutes of him just chatting aimlessly about it all and only showing any tweets right at the end so I'll just post archive links of the tweet threads he linked and mentioned. I still have an archived copy of the video ready to send over if necessary but @Nguyen Van Phuoc's post below splitting the video up should probably be enough.

@LeftB0ob: https://archive.vn/OzuOv
@LukeLovesCandy: https://archive.vn/lETvu
@anonymoussloll: https://archive.vn/BwHWM

Other archive links:
Cryaotic megathread (r/ChaoticMonki): https://archive.vn/epqxL
Second TwitLonger post: https://archive.vn/4ncJx
Third Twitlonger post: https://archive.vn/tnsIJ

Last three links were unrelated to the situation itself (news articles and law sperging) and have been omitted.
 
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It'd help if this post was ported over to the forum with all its links archived directly on-site.

Hope I haven't missed anything, but if I have for now let me know.

"very sensitive topics. i am here to inform. not trying to cancel anyone. but hold sam accountable. i am not a victim. just here to spread information to those who don’t have twitter."
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"this is @/ heroinnprincess on tik tok’s story. speaks about very sensitive topics."
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"in order to read the twitlonger, zoom in a little. some of the texts don’t have much context but they are all these that she said to him while they were dating."
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"another victim."
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"Sam sexting me whilst I was underage:"
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"when i talked to a girl"
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"When I accidentally told someone my real age whilst dating her"
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LukeLovesCandy video - My Experience with Glqmorous/Thot/lilbvnny (Grooming)
(higher-quality copies too large to upload directly, can send them over on request if needed)
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Other archive links:
Cryaotic megathread (r/ChaoticMonki): https://archive.vn/epqxL
Second TwitLonger post: https://archive.vn/4ncJx
Third Twitlonger post: https://archive.vn/tnsIJ
@rlyfrez twitter thread: https://archive.vn/MgEkk

Also here's the reddit post in question
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EDIT: thank you to the janny who put a spoiler over the videos, I was going to edit it myself but for some reason I couldn't
 
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Regarding the Dream smp, I wonder how many of it's members have realized Clayton's a gobshite. Like obviously Sapnap and the guy he's shipped with won't speak out; he made their careers after all. The others however, may just be putting up with his bull for both the clout, and the sheer insanity of his stans should they speak out. If I remember correctly, Wilbur Soot ( the singing fellow) had accusations of having beef with Dream. He denied it, of course. But still, I wonder who's going to snap and fight Clayton and his lemmings head on.

TLDR; Dream Smp has a lot of members, place your bets on who speaks out against this fucker first. Like, it's only a matter of time.
 
Modern minecraft youtubers always seem to be in f5 mode, like they're constantly showing off how cool they are and how cool their skin is. Its weird and annoying, seems to be a very narcissistic habit.
At least technoblade uses it for dramatic effect with extreme zoom and shaking as if he's panting when he goes overly dramatic in his narrations
 
Jawsh has more to say about Dream. Him being "directly affected" is about some erotic fanfiction between Jawsh, Noah Hugbox, and Dream that some stan made out of spite, along with all the stan shit he had to deal with back in the SMPLive days. If you look at the QRTs, you'll see that most of the stans hating on him are mainly saying that his fanbase is full of bigots (citation needed), and how "one person can't control millions of fans" (though they probably say this exact same thing with PewDiePie and his fans).
(Tweet 1 | Archive) (Tweet 2 | Archive) (Tweet 3 | Archive)
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Edit: Noah read the fanfic on stream (starts at around the 2 hour mark). It's about as bad as you'd expect (AO3 | Archive). The fanfic is from December, so I'm assuming Jawsh first learned of it from Noah's stream today. Now stans are spreading lies that it had Drista and Tommy in an attempt to falsely accuse Noah of possessing and sharing CP.
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Also here's the reddit post in question
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...had the bravery to come forward...
God I hate that shit. If this is all true, she's fucked up, but it's not brave to go on social media and cry child molester, it's just clout-chaser speak at this point.
And then they bring up laws and shit to try and nail her down, which makes me ask, if you want the law to take her down, why didn't you go to them first, you fucking brain surgeon?
But knowing that someone with her tastes was involved and close with someone having a fanbase as young and retarded as Dreams is very concerning.
 
if you want the law to take her down, why didn't you go to them first, you fucking brain surgeon?
I'd wager that everyone involved in this is only teen age or very early 20s at best, so I wouldn't be remotely surprised that all they know how to do still is yell into the void on Twitter instead of using any of the systems that the adults put into place to mitigate these situations more effectively.
 
Regarding the Dream smp, I wonder how many of it's members have realized Clayton's a gobshite. Like obviously Sapnap and the guy he's shipped with won't speak out; he made their careers after all. The others however, may just be putting up with his bull for both the clout, and the sheer insanity of his stans should they speak out. If I remember correctly, Wilbur Soot ( the singing fellow) had accusations of having beef with Dream. He denied it, of course. But still, I wonder who's going to snap and fight Clayton and his lemmings head on.

TLDR; Dream Smp has a lot of members, place your bets on who speaks out against this fucker first. Like, it's only a matter of time.
I'm pretty sure a few of them have spoken against Dream already, like jschlatt makes fun of the stans all the time/said he believes that dream cheated and tommyinit's said that Dream overreacted (or something along those lines) regarding the recent John Swan situation. Tbh I feel like it's mostly his immediate circle of friends that do most of the dick riding.

But on another note I watched one of their streams for the first time today and was extremely underwhelmed. Everyone there is either bland as hell or over-the-top obnoxious. How exactly were they able to garner such a massive, psychotically passionate fanbase with such dry, run of the mill content?
 
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But on another note I watched one of their streams for the first time today and was extremely underwhelmed. Everyone there is either bland as hell or over-the-top obnoxious. How exactly were they able to garner such a massive, psychotically passionate fanbase with such dry, run of the mill content?
The bland people are there for the "im so depressed, plz giv asspats" crowd, the over-the-top people are there for the "ive got QUIRKY CRACKHEAD ENERGY"/being-loud-and-obnoxious-is-totally-a-personality-trait crowd (although the two groups may or may not be the same people lol).

As for how they garnered the fanbase, tacitly encouraging stan culture probably had something to do with it. Kpop was probably losing its luster, so to speak, and the zoomers needed a new fandom to base their personalities off of (pathetic but normal when you grow up on the internet). That fandom would have been smplive and the callmecarson crowd, but those guys disavowed that shit right out of the gate, and the stans ended up settling into where they are now with dream, for better or for worse. Probably worse with his pedophile ex-gf lmao
 
I'm pretty sure a few of them have spoken against Dream already, like jschlatt makes fun of the stans all the time/said he believes that dream cheated and tommyinit's said that Dream overreacted (or something along those lines) regarding the recent John Swan situation. Tbh I feel like it's mostly his immediate circle of friends that do most of the dick riding.

But on another note I watched one of their streams for the first time today and was extremely underwhelmed. Everyone there is either bland as hell or over-the-top obnoxious. How exactly were they able to garner such a massive, psychotically passionate fanbase with such dry, run of the mill content?
There is quite a large market for 6/10 men who act like they could treat women with decency. View it similar to all the thots on the internet who have hoards of rabid simps despite not being all that noteworthy to an outsider. The old Parasocial Relationship™ can really do a number to one’s standards.

In addition, community often begets more community. Pretty much all of us crave social interaction in some form but teenagers especially want to have a place where they fit in, where they can belong. Once word gets out that they’re an active and bustling fandom, it’ll attract and keep in more people who are looking for that kind of interaction.

Combine this with what Sprate Header mentioned above and the pieces start to fall together
 
There is quite a large market for 6/10 men who act like they could treat women with decency. View it similar to all the thots on the internet who have hoards of rabid simps despite not being all that noteworthy to an outsider. The old Parasocial Relationship™ can really do a number to one’s standards.

In addition, community often begets more community. Pretty much all of us crave social interaction in some form but teenagers especially want to have a place where they fit in, where they can belong. Once word gets out that they’re an active and bustling fandom, it’ll attract and keep in more people who are looking for that kind of interaction.

Combine this with what Sprate Header mentioned above and the pieces start to fall together
Ah, the root of all stan culture, teenage girls who are mentally ill.
 
Jawsh has more to say about Dream. Him being "directly affected" is about some erotic fanfiction between Jawsh, Noah Hugbox, and Dream that some stan made out of spite, along with all the stan shit he had to deal with back in the SMPLive days. If you look at the QRTs, you'll see that most of the stans hating on him are mainly saying that his fanbase is full of bigots (citation needed), and how "one person can't control millions of fans" (though they probably say this exact same thing with PewDiePie and his fans).
(Tweet 1 | Archive) (Tweet 2 | Archive) (Tweet 3 | Archive)
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Edit: Noah read the fanfic on stream (starts at around the 2 hour mark). It's about as bad as you'd expect (AO3 | Archive). The fanfic is from December, so I'm assuming Jawsh first learned of it from Noah's stream today. Now stans are spreading lies that it had Drista and Tommy in an attempt to falsely accuse Noah of possessing and sharing CP.
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Archiving screwed up again. The AO3 archive is fine, but the tweets aren't. Here's proper archives for the tweets.

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Regarding the Dream smp, I wonder how many of it's members have realized Clayton's a gobshite. Like obviously Sapnap and the guy he's shipped with won't speak out; he made their careers after all. The others however, may just be putting up with his bull for both the clout, and the sheer insanity of his stans should they speak out. If I remember correctly, Wilbur Soot ( the singing fellow) had accusations of having beef with Dream. He denied it, of course. But still, I wonder who's going to snap and fight Clayton and his lemmings head on.

TLDR; Dream Smp has a lot of members, place your bets on who speaks out against this fucker first. Like, it's only a matter of time.
some insight on this: wilbur and dream didn’t have beef, this particular moment was when someone said “Dream’s new song was better than your new boyfriend” or something like that
dream and wilbur are often pit against each other because of the whole “dttwt vs sleepytwt” thing where essentially both fanbases are constantly at each other’s necks because who fucking knows, (ive seen ppl call sleepytwt like elitists and acting better than everyone? and sleepytwt demonizes dttwt bec of their sheer scope and weirdness idk) anyways wilbur once said dreams fanbase scares him or something. the nsfw side of sleepytwt is actually just as prevalent as dttwts by the way.
so essentially dream and wilburs “beef” is mainly that wilbur is put off how people pit him against dream as respective “leaders” of their fanbases i guess
will try and provide more insight as the thread goes on as someone who is somewhat part of the fanbase and sees the bullshit all the time lol
 
some insight on this: wilbur and dream didn’t have beef, this particular moment was when someone said “Dream’s new song was better than your new boyfriend” or something like that
dream and wilbur are often pit against each other because of the whole “dttwt vs sleepytwt” thing where essentially both fanbases are constantly at each other’s necks because who fucking knows, (ive seen ppl call sleepytwt like elitists and acting better than everyone? and sleepytwt demonizes dttwt bec of their sheer scope and weirdness idk) anyways wilbur once said dreams fanbase scares him or something. the nsfw side of sleepytwt is actually just as prevalent as dttwts by the way.
so essentially dream and wilburs “beef” is mainly that wilbur is put off how people pit him against dream as respective “leaders” of their fanbases i guess
will try and provide more insight as the thread goes on as someone who is somewhat part of the fanbase and sees the bullshit all the time lol

Learn to use commas, retard
 
some insight on this: wilbur and dream didn’t have beef, this particular moment was when someone said “Dream’s new song was better than your new boyfriend” or something like that
dream and wilbur are often pit against each other because of the whole “dttwt vs sleepytwt” thing where essentially both fanbases are constantly at each other’s necks because who fucking knows, (ive seen ppl call sleepytwt like elitists and acting better than everyone? and sleepytwt demonizes dttwt bec of their sheer scope and weirdness idk) anyways wilbur once said dreams fanbase scares him or something. the nsfw side of sleepytwt is actually just as prevalent as dttwts by the way.
so essentially dream and wilburs “beef” is mainly that wilbur is put off how people pit him against dream as respective “leaders” of their fanbases i guess
will try and provide more insight as the thread goes on as someone who is somewhat part of the fanbase and sees the bullshit all the time lol
thanks for your insight. what are your opinions on dream's more unsavory actions, as a dream stan? is the magic ruined knowing that he has sketchy business practices, is poor in handling his rabid fanbase and knowingly dated a pedophile? also, how does your circle of mcyt friends feel about him knowing this?
 
thanks for your insight. what are your opinions on dream's more unsavory actions, as a dream stan? is the magic ruined knowing that he has sketchy business practices, is poor in handling his rabid fanbase and knowingly dated a pedophile? also, how does your circle of mcyt friends feel about him knowing this?
Yo be semi polite, they provided info. Still a cringe Dream stan, but everyone here is autistic so who cares.
 
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