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[Erika Furudo]

The western left in a nutshell

Who the fuck made this? I thought it was tankies, but then they talk about hating Maoists and people who like Karl Marx. Was it neoliberals? They hate the word neoliberal. I knew leftist infighting was bad, but this seems more autistic than /pol/ debating if Italians and Irish are white or not.

 

[Josterman]

Who the fuck made this? I thought it was tankies, but then they talk about hating Maoists and people who like Karl Marx. Was it neoliberals? They hate the word neoliberal. I knew leftist infighting was bad, but this seems more autistic than /pol/ debating if Italians and Irish are white or not.

Probably some degenerate with mental problems

 

[Mr Metron666]

I would say that they represent what has since evolved out of the 2010s SJWs. I think the massive success of anti-SJWs between 2015-2017 really forced them to change a lot of their tactics and abandon certain talking points. When's the last time you heard a progressive unironically talk about "patriarchy", for example? They still hold pretty much all the same beliefs and if anything have only gotten more extreme with time.

Or the gender pay gap? Haven't heard anyone bring up that talking point in a while. Or what about those buzzfeed/cracked articles saying how white people have ruined this & that and other SocJus bullshit. Have their been any more of those? Cos a lot of breadtubers seem to pretend those don't exist and never have.

They're just ignorant online leftists. There's overlap with what used to be SJWs in the 2010s but it's easier to just describe their political standpoint, especially with people like Vaush who aren't tumblr types at all.

The "moderates" and extremists work hand in hand towards the same goal. Moderates exist to convert those who are turned off by the extremists.

Like I've suggested before, many of them could almost certainly be outright SJWs who've learnt to put on a mask of reasonability, similar to how psychopaths & sociopaths put on a mask of sanity to appear normal. However, given the right conditions, the mask can & does occasionally slip., mainly when they think their enemies aren't paying attention.

 

[Anti Fun Aktion]

Who the fuck made this? I thought it was tankies, but then they talk about hating Maoists and people who like Karl Marx. Was it neoliberals? They hate the word neoliberal. I knew leftist infighting was bad, but this seems more autistic than /pol/ debating if Italians and Irish are white or not.

Tankies made it, mainly Infrared I think.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

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"Fucking lefties, they destroyed leftism" - A leftie, probably

Of course there's gonna be 10 billion flavors of communism, they try to make it like a religion were it is applied to every single facet of life and is so full of shit that even convinced zealots will eventually come across something that seems like bullshit. They drink the kool aid for one thing but not another and eventually in that picking and choosing what "true and honest communism and socialism " is a million splinters form, like with christian denominations.

In practice is more like metal genres, you know that there are some bands that sound a bit different but most are all the same shit in the end and like 100 genres you can just lump into the same pile because they sound indistinguishable unless you are autistic. It doesn't matter if its Maocore or Grindstalinism or oldschool speed leninism, whatever, you still starve at the end.

 

[Erika Furudo]

Tankies made it, mainly Infrared I think.

I figured tankies and maoists would be friends. I thought tankies were just the militant, authoritarian guys who hated anything liberal.
Do tankies hate LGBT? Because if we are talking full blown Stalin lovers that's one group Stalin hated.
Oh and Mao hated drug users, so I figure any Maoist = anti drugs. Or is a tankie just an edgy communist?

It doesn't matter if its Maocore or Grindstalinism or oldschool speed leninism, whatever, you still starve at the end.

Nice try commrade. You don't always starve. Sometimes you get shot, usually by other communists.

 

[Woke Blue Muttlema]

I think something that doesn't get mentioned enough is that Leon looks like Burton's Tweedledum.
Just like a very aggressive bruised thumb wearing a suit.
He looks like the Lonely Worm from that old MSN ad.

 

[Banditotron]

I think something that doesn't get mentioned enough is that Leon looks like Burton's Tweedledum.
Just like a very aggressive bruised thumb wearing a suit.
He looks like the Lonely Worm from that old MSN ad.

You can just say "Meat", we're all friends here.

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

They still hold pretty much all the same beliefs and if anything have only gotten more extreme with time.

Pretty much. Fight da patriarchy evolved into getting men to put on a dress and (maybe) lop their cocks off. Institutional racism turned into create institutions to rape and kill ypipo.
Now I know what you're thinking, wouldn't both end up biting them in the ass? Wouldn't six foot tall linebackers in a dress beating women in sports (and physically) end up badly for women? Wouldn't gassing ypipo just make Mr. Chang, Wang and Zhang put all the darkies into forced labor camps?
Yes, but as we know from history every batshit commie policy where they go full retard always has obvious great unintended negative consequences. Think when Mao had sparrows mass murdered which caused all the crops to fail because there was nobody left to eat the bugs that were harmful to rice.

 

[Montalbane]

Pretty much. Fight da patriarchy evolved into getting men to put on a dress and (maybe) lop their cocks off. Institutional racism turned into create institutions to rape and kill ypipo.
Now I know what you're thinking, wouldn't both end up biting them in the ass? Wouldn't six foot tall linebackers in a dress beating women in sports (and physically) end up badly for women? Wouldn't gassing ypipo just make Mr. Chang, Wang and Zhang put all the darkies into forced labor camps?
Yes, but as we know from history every batshit commie policy where they go full retard always has obvious great unintended negative consequences. Think when Mao had sparrows mass murdered which caused all the crops to fail because there was nobody left to eat the bugs that were harmful to rice.

Well now we can kill the sparrows and make the redditors eat the bugs, win win guys!

 

[lurkersometimes]

Oh hey--"Thought Slime" crossed over into my youtube world for the first time.

Vegan youtubers call out my ignorance about socialism (responding to vegan critics)

There are a lot of responses to videos of mine out there on the youtubes. That’s the great thing about youtube and the internet in general. Literally anyone ...

www.youtube.com

This is a video by "Unnatural Vegan"...who's sent leftube and her leftube audience into a conniption for having the audacity to label herself "neoliberal" (and made a video with the wonderfully trollish title "Anti-Capitalism is Anti-Vegan"). She responds to a few people in this video...and apparently "Thought Slime" made a video about her too, and she says it was too dumb to even merit a response. Her breadtube-y audience will likely insist on a response though, so you can prob expect one in the future.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

You don't always starve. Sometimes you get shot, usually by other communists.

Thats humanitarian communism. A quick way out is more mercyful than having to survive and live under communism.

 

[Alessonincrippliningdepre]

https://twitter.com/shaun_vids/status/1362052875359309825

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This fucking guy.

I found a winner

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

I found a winner

Just like how showing up to a job on time is white supremacy and CP should have their own time for showing up to work and events while at the same time not being judged for being inconsiderate asshats.

 

[dflatline]

Just like how showing up to a job on time is white supremacy and CP should have their own time for showing up to work and events while at the same time not being judged for being inconsiderate asshats.

You think black people can just afford alarm clocks? Lah-de-dah look at moneybags over here

 

[NormieCasual]

Meet Cass Eris.

She has a PhD in cognitive psychology. Her life goal seems to be to make the longest critic of Jordan Petersson's 12 rules of life (She has a 40 video criticing the book, every video is between 30-40 minutes, and she is only on rule 6). Furthermore, she is severely mentally ill with multiple disorders including, bipolar and body dysmorphia.

Her critics are quite simple and could all be in one video. That is that she dislikes Petersson's politics, that he uses religious imagery, that he uses Jungian archetypes (and not cognitive psychology), and, if his rules are taken to an extreme by an autist who has bipolar disorder, they are bad rules.

For example:

In general, she seems to take everything that Peterson's say to the most extreme position. She lacks any sense of charitability or understanding that sometimes things aren't literal.

Peterson says that people should take responsibility for their lives and, by doing so, the faults of their lives. He says that with the help of the bible. Eris somehow spins this general rule to become that it was the victim of Catrina's faults that there was a hurricane. Because Peterson is a religious extremist who believes that the hurricane was through the hands of God or it was at least his implication. Moreover, she brings up the "just world" fallacy (we believe that everyone around us has earned what they have) and argues that it's simply not true because sometimes hard-working people fail.

Peterson also talks about not always overthinking your gut feeling. Humans are complex, which means we will never fully understand ourselves, but we all still have a sense of morality. His point is that we don't need to always think of why we have the morality we do, but we need to follow our ethics. Eris believes this means that Peterson is against personal growth. You know, because that means we should completely stop thinking about why we feel a certain way and then we'll be evil conservatives.

Peterson says that you shouldn't try to change society before you have your own life under control (because how else do you know if it is a problem of society, but he doesn't say that out loud). Eris sees this as being hypocritical since Peterson has personal issues. (Although from my knowledge Peterson has just been against changing laws which wouldn't be hypocritical, not a Peterson fan, so I don't know all his scandals.)

BTW, I don't get how someone who is a "mental health advocate" can ever use that someone is on anti-anxiety against someone else. Even if they dislike someone.

Finally, Peterson says that people should be humble as it will make them happier. Eris is butthurt.

She is also so pro-trans (as expected by a breadtuber). And I'm going to be honest, she's boring, and I could only manage to skim through one of the three videos she made on the topic. It was boring and predictable. I don't remember anything, and I refuse to go over it again.

To conclude, she is an SJW academic in psychology. She doesn't seem to be interested in being neutral or charitable when reading Peterson or any work that doesn't fit her political leaning, but what to expect from someone who appears to be unable to get a job within academia and needs to earn those Patreon bucks and live on her husband:

PS: She's not that good at makeup.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

I found a winner

This is like when I was arguing with a friend that universal income to shift the way our society works (in terms of people making livings under capitalism) does not address the core issue that people need to work to be fulfilled and that the recognition of man toiling their entire lives (as a reflection of the human condition) is so engrained into the human psyche that it is aetiologically explained in the third chapter of the Bible. He just couldn't even begin to try and understand that work, regardless of what it is, can be fulfilling in and of itself.

No, allowing people to not work while society takes care of them will not make them happier. If that were the case, the happiest people in the world would be NEETs.

 

[scathefire]

This is like when I was arguing with a friend that universal income to shift the way our society works (in terms of people making livings under capitalism) does not address the core issue that people need to work to be fulfilled and that the recognition of man toiling their entire lives (as a reflection of the human condition) is so engrained into the human psyche that it is aetiologically explained in the third chapter of the Bible. He just couldn't even begin to try and understand that work, regardless of what it is, can be fulfilling in and of itself.

No, allowing people to not work while society takes care of them will not make them happier. If that were the case, the happiest people in the world would be NEETs.

It's possible that in the future we'd be able to change how the human psyche works via transhumanism, although whether you think that's ethical or not is a whole 'nother can of worms.

For the time being, ideologies that revolve around a flawed conception of human nature just don't work and will never work. Though, even just defining what people think "human nature" is becomes yet another overflowing can of worms that differs across the political spectrum.

 

[Banditotron]

Meet Cass Eris.
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She has a PhD in cognitive psychology. Her life goal seems to be to make the longest critic of Jordan Petersson's 12 rules of life (She has a 40 video criticing the book, every video is between 30-40 minutes, and she is only on rule 6). Furthermore, she is severely mentally ill with multiple disorders including, bipolar and body dysmorphia.

Her critics are quite simple and could all be in one video. That is that she dislikes Petersson's politics, that he uses religious imagery, that he uses Jungian archetypes (and not cognitive psychology), and, if his rules are taken to an extreme by an autist who has bipolar disorder, they are bad rules.

For example:

In general, she seems to take everything that Peterson's say to the most extreme position. She lacks any sense of charitability or understanding that sometimes things aren't literal.

Peterson says that people should take responsibility for their lives and, by doing so, the faults of their lives. He says that with the help of the bible. Eris somehow spins this general rule to become that it was the victim of Catrina's faults that there was a hurricane. Because Peterson is a religious extremist who believes that the hurricane was through the hands of God or it was at least his implication. Moreover, she brings up the "just world" fallacy (we believe that everyone around us has earned what they have) and argues that it's simply not true because sometimes hard-working people fail.

Peterson also talks about not always overthinking your gut feeling. Humans are complex, which means we will never fully understand ourselves, but we all still have a sense of morality. His point is that we don't need to always think of why we have the morality we do, but we need to follow our ethics. Eris believes this means that Peterson is against personal growth. You know, because that means we should completely stop thinking about why we feel a certain way and then we'll be evil conservatives.

Peterson says that you shouldn't try to change society before you have your own life under control (because how else do you know if it is a problem of society, but he doesn't say that out loud). Eris sees this as being hypocritical since Peterson has personal issues. (Although from my knowledge Peterson has just been against changing laws which wouldn't be hypocritical, not a Peterson fan, so I don't know all his scandals.)

BTW, I don't get how someone who is a "mental health advocate" can ever use that someone is on anti-anxiety against someone else. Even if they dislike someone.

Finally, Peterson says that people should be humble as it will make them happier. Eris is butthurt.

She is also so pro-trans (as expected by a breadtuber). And I'm going to be honest, she's boring, and I could only manage to skim through one of the three videos she made on the topic. It was boring and predictable. I don't remember anything, and I refuse to go over it again.

To conclude, she is an SJW academic in psychology. She doesn't seem to be interested in being neutral or charitable when reading Peterson or any work that doesn't fit her political leaning, but what to expect from someone who appears to be unable to get a job within academia and needs to earn those Patreon bucks and live on her husband:
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PS: She's not that good at makeup.

These people really must come out of some cloning machine.

 

[Erika Furudo]

This is like when I was arguing with a friend that universal income to shift the way our society works (in terms of people making livings under capitalism) does not address the core issue that people need to work to be fulfilled and that the recognition of man toiling their entire lives (as a reflection of the human condition) is so engrained into the human psyche that it is aetiologically explained in the third chapter of the Bible. He just couldn't even begin to try and understand that work, regardless of what it is, can be fulfilling in and of itself.

No, allowing people to not work while society takes care of them will not make them happier. If that were the case, the happiest people in the world would be NEETs.

It would be fulfilling. Being a neet doesn't give you enough money to do things, you just survive/exist, you don't really live. It sucks.
Personally I am happier with a job than when I was a neet, but if a society came around that gave people free money I would honestly just quit my job and focus on my interests. Lots of jobs are menial, why would you spend your time doing them if you had the opportunity to study chemistry, carpentry or medicine or something you found interesting and get paid for it. You get the exact same pay, but it's giving you a skillset and letting you feed your curiousity as oppsoed to stacking shelves.

Thats why it wouldn't work. Because some jobs aren't fulfilling. You don't create or discover anything, so the fulfillment comes from the money you get from doing a mind numbing job. Some people could cope with the idea that they are providing a service/being productive, therefore they enjoy it. But most people don't enjoy their jobs, and I doubt anyone who says they would not take the opportunity to change if there were no financial risks. I used the example of woodwork, I think it's really cool to see carpenters make all sorts of things from wood. I also know that most things are now mass produced in a factory by machines that work faster, more accurately and more consistently than humans. As such I could only ever look into woodwork as a hobby at best, I sure as shit wouldn't make it my primary source of income. But if income/job security were no issue, then I would make the jump, but so would lots of people who do soul crushing jobs that allow society to function.