NeoGAF & ResetERA - The Hilarious N̶e̶v̶e̶r̶e̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ Splintering "Gaming" Forum Circus

[Ravana]

Lmao they’re done with the site, just not on their terms

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

>people who could already buy entire nations and effectively already have only do things for monetary gain
>they would never sink money into a cause that won't turn a monetary profit
>money isn't a weapon at all, its in no way relatable to ammunition to fire at an enemy
>no one would ever sacrifice money for political and cultural control, its literally just about yet another yacht

Holy fuck there are still retards trying to claim that these huge conglomerates, stocked full of resentful libfags that will openly tell you that they are pro censorship against "hate speech", being pressured relentlessly by cohorts of media click-bait whores looking to target the next wrongthinker, are obeying market forces.

Yes, they do. You do not understand the psychology of the people who run these companies. To a normal person, making one hundred thousand dollars a year would be enough to leave them feeling secure and happy. They would save that money and be able to retire in relative comfort. to a normal person, making one million dollars a year would allow them to retire in their mid-to-late-thirties and spend the rest of their life pursuing their personal hobbies.
Jeff Bezos makes more money than most third world nations, is the richest man alive, is in the running for the richest person of all time, and that's still not enough for him. It will never be enough for him, or for people like him. He could literally own every single asset on Earth, and it wouldn't be enough- why do you think so many of the ultra-rich are obsessed with the idea of expanding their operations into extracting resources on other planets? They are slaves to Mammon, and so are their corporations, as per US law. Any corporation in the US has sole and exclusive responsibility to ensure the profit margins of their stockholders go up. If they made decisions that tanked the company's stock, they can and have been ousted by their stockholders. If you don't believe me, do some legal research yourself.
You will now call me cucked or some stupid shit that means "I don't want to listen to you because I can't form a counterargument that's grounded in anything but vague aspersions and want to blame the tides of culture on an evil conspiracy against me in specific" and post out-of-context quotes from Gates and Soros.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Holy fuck there are still retards trying to claim that these huge conglomerates, stocked full of resentful libfags that will openly tell you that they are pro censorship against "hate speech", being pressured relentlessly by cohorts of media click-bait whores looking to target the next wrongthinker, are obeying market forces.

It depends on the company.

There are definitely some like that, and even see losses due to wokeness as a source of pride. Companies like Nintendo Treehouse, Bioware, and Tale of Tales. Sony is debatable but they come close.

Most big companies don't give a shit. Ubisoft made the woker than woke Watchdogs Legion, but they also made a mobile game where you fight a thinly veiled BLM. Blizzard makes a big show of how woke Overwatch is whenever there's a controversy, but I've read that all the woke parts are exclusive to the US and western Europe canon. The rest of the world doesn't have that (I'm not an Overwatch fan so I don't know). There's that infamous picture of Bethesda accounts during pride month where they all have the rainbow flag ...except Bethesda Middle East.

I could go on, but you get the idea. Treehouse might ruin translations with memes and woke politics, but Nintendo as a whole refuses to get into politics and refuses to cave to outrage.

 

[NinjaSniffer]

Holy shit the bowtie tism. .
You're seriously telling me that the designer of this character is "obeying market forces?"

That's a "woman" by the way. Do you mean to tell me that this scene was included for marketing, profit driven reasons?

Of course not. They know god damn well you hate it. They're rubbing your nose in shit. Its a humiliation ritual. And they dare you criticize it and guess what happens when you do. They even gave it GOTY for every single fucking category possible to further demoralize. Go look at the user score for this game, now consider why the score is such. Its sales are abysmal for the most hyped thing to happen on a console with 100 million installed units. Not even 6 million . .oy vey. That's a catastrophic failure. But that was never the point. Do you get it?

 

[HumanHive]

the worst part of this thread are people who try to reiterate Gamergate on it. This autism is funny, but then you had to ruin it with some Very Serious moralfagging about "the persecution of the Right by the Left".

Of course a Trumpist like you would try to minimize the long term damage of Gamergate.

 

[Neil]

The absolute suicidal seething over some BOOBA in Smash is pretty funny. What isn't going to be funny is when these people finally brow beat developers into making every vidya character a fat balding trannie. These "people" love to throw around the word incel while they're so desperate, alone and disgusting themselves that they've resorted to attacking the fictional characters that the lowest tier of men on earth admire either out of jealous spite or some desperate delusion that if the "male gaze" can't fall on some voluptuous pixels they'll finally get some romantic attention. They're wrong of course. Any man would gladly fap to hentai for all eternity instead of touching these freaks. These troons are going to die just as alone as the "incels" they hate and a lot sooner.

Nintendo doesn't give a shit. The only censorship of designs they ever do is to keep CERO or the ESRB off their ass. Nintendo of America has no hand in the actual development of the games, maybe besides translations, but idk if Treehouse is even around anymore (if they aren't, thank GOD).

 

[spiky]

Anyone pushing for Elma to be the "black" character has never actually played Xenoblade X to completion.

Spoiler: End game spoilers for Xenoblade X

She's actually a pale skin alien with even skimpier clothes only assuming human form. Black face is bad, mmkay? Unless you're the Prime Minister of Canada.
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Heres the same character later in the game, a slightly effeminate man.
I never cared for hyper sexual designs but now I want more just to witness the seethe.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Why the assumption about jews? That's odd.

Holy shit the bowtie tism. .
You're seriously telling me that the designer of this character is "obeying market forces?"
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That's a "woman" by the way. Do you mean to tell me that this scene was included for marketing, profit driven reasons?

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Of course not. They know god damn well you hate it. They're rubbing your nose in shit. Its a humiliation ritual. And they dare you criticize it and guess what happens when you do. They even gave it GOTY for every single fucking category possible to further demoralize. Go look at the user score for this game, now consider why the score is such. Its sales are abysmal for the most hyped thing to happen on a console with 100 million installed units. Not even 6 million . .oy vey. That's a catastrophic failure. But that was never the point. Do you get it?

Gee, I wonder why?

I suspect you're the sort of person who shouts about things like this in one breath, and then in the next breath decries that everything in theaters is "CONSOOM PRODUCT" Marvel crap. Art will offend sensibilities. Large groups of people won't like it. I don't like TLOU2, not because it's ugly or cucked or jewish tricks or whatever the fuck you're complaining about, but because it's a chore and about miserable people doing miserable things to other miserable people in ways that are miserable to play. It's not fun, and that's what happens when you prioritize "game as artistic work" (for people with very pretentious ideas about art) as opposed to "game as a fucking game." They could do this because TLOU2 was assumed to be a "shoo-in": The Last of Us was one of the most well-liked games of its generation and sold somewhere on the level of the Holy Bible: the management felt confident that they could let the auteurs off of their leads and hey, if they end up making a piece of shit, it would sell on the name alone and make profit margins go up. For another example of what happens when you let the auteurs take full control over development and start butchering the gameplay in the name of "muh artistic vision", look at Shenmue III. The difference is that Sony Interactive backed up a big money truck at the Game Awards. My opinion is apparently not uncommon, but neither is the opposite: the game's user reviews indicate that it's highly polarizing across the board, and I hate to break it to you, but it's unlikely even half of those positive user reviews are all paid shills and bots. It's more likely that a large segment of the population likes this game and sees it as an artistic achievement; you can call them all bugmen or cucks or soyboys or whatever, but at the end of the day their dollar is just as valuable as yours.

Let's talk about The Game Awards, since you brought them up: I'm sorry you're apparently very young, but awards shows are always bullshit and mean nothing. If they're industry-run, the awards go to whoever backed up the biggest money truck. If they're artist-run, they go to some pretentious obscure piece of shit that nobody's ever heard of. A couple bones are thrown to the plebs, but that's it. I never gave a fuck about the Game Awards before TLOU2 swept, and I don't care about them afterwards- and I have a sneaking suspicion you don't, either, and just want to bring it up because you think it's further proof of your conspiracy instead of evidence that awards shows are, in fact, awards shows. The first year the Grammys began awarding a prize for Best Rap Album, Public Enemy's It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back, one of the most influential and cherished albums of that decade, was released. The winner was Will Smith for an album of music recorded under his Fresh Prince of Bel-Air persona. The Game Awards event is nothing new or special, and certainly isn't part of some kind of Illuminati scheme.
Likewise, I rarely consider professional critics' opinions to be anything more than the opinion of a professional critic, who tend to have tastes different from the general populace.

When the female Ghostbusters came out, people like you (which included me at the time) said the same kind of shit; it signaled the end of pop culture and fun, that (((They))) were doing it to demoralize all the redpilled silent majority, etc. And then it got dropped, buried in a pit, and now they're releasing a soft reboot of the original franchise that decanonizes Fat Chicks Ghostbusters, because the latter didn't sell. TLOU2 didn't sell according to you, and if that's true I suspect we won't see much of it again, and certainly not in the form it was in previously.

TL;DR stop mainlining mercury, consider that a fucking army is needed to make a vidya and said armies are not of Borg, and stop thinking awards shows and critics mean shit like a mark. Only REEEtards think these things mean anything.

 

[Oh Shit I'm Sorry]

Era creates a thread about the current condition of Julien Assange after years of mistreatment for whistleblowing. Cue outrage?

lmao jk he was mean to Hillary and the Democrats Era doesn't give a shit.

True progressivism is selectively choosing which human rights violations to get upset about.

HAVE YOU WATCHED THE LATEST EPISODE OF WANDAVISION YET?

GamerGay is like Play-Doh in that you can make it out to be whatever you want it to be but if you're doing it above the age of 8 you clearly have some kind of autism.

Speaking of autism...

Obligatory Kyuuji word vomit

JK Rowling is an entire group now?

Some people want the game to just be banned which would deprive posters like Kyuuji and Mail Order Brideofanego of the hundreds of hours they have planned to cry about it.

Shocking that every company in the world doesn't scrub through every social media post ever made by a potential employee for wrongthink.

Incoming wall of text:

Today, GamerGay shall be the President of Brazil?

I don't possess the will to actually read this shit but I will say that that last line is comedy gold

Every time Era has an anonymous poll it hilariously backfires on them, it's great

Weltall Zero has been around since like the start yet still doesn't understand what the website is built for. How are you supposed to have 700 threads whining about the game if it's banned, moron?

lol

"You thought Cyberpunk was a mess wait til you see what we have in store for you this time!"

 

[Long Tongue Silver]

Era creates a thread about the current condition of Julien Assange after years of mistreatment for whistleblowing. Cue outrage?

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lmao jk he was mean to Hillary and the Democrats Era doesn't give a shit.

True progressivism is selectively choosing which human rights violations to get upset about.

HAVE YOU WATCHED THE LATEST EPISODE OF WANDAVISION YET?

I figured true progressivism was selectively bitching about unimportant shit to get asspats from other blinkered progressives.

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

The whole Gamergate discussion really made me laugh. I needed that. Specially the "Today, gamergate is more alive than ever" or the delusion that somehow a bunch of spergy gamers that didn't wanted to be lied to and didn't wanted to be force fed garbage somehow ended up causing Trump and Bolsonaro to rise to power. This sort of delusion would really want me to meet the person who said this and laugh in their faces for being such an astounding retard.

Also, how are the chances that the poster of that inane rant about Gamurgays is probably a troon seeing how it went on about trans acceptance and queer theory? Plus, troons getting killed is not a big deal since they would 41% themselves sooner or later.

 

[DriveByTrolling]

God I am so fucking glad Trans Drama is reving back up again. I was starting to get depressed after Cyber Punk drama concluded.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ho...nd-pro-gamer-gate-videos.381606/post-59098359

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Such nasty TransWomen. Mods are gonna get fucking wrekt by TransEra. #PoundSandNiggers

Long-term account that has been running since opening in 2017, correctly calls out the jannies hypocrisy and lack of action from B-Dubs/Isamu Fukui, PERM'D.

Such fragile fake ass bitch jannies.

Trannies annihilated again by the Resetera jannies, #PoundSandTranny

 

[Dafuqisdis?]

Yes, they do. You do not understand the psychology of the people who run these companies. To a normal person, making one hundred thousand dollars a year would be enough to leave them feeling secure and happy. They would save that money and be able to retire in relative comfort. to a normal person, making one million dollars a year would allow them to retire in their mid-to-late-thirties and spend the rest of their life pursuing their personal hobbies.
Jeff Bezos makes more money than most third world nations, is the richest man alive, is in the running for the richest person of all time, and that's still not enough for him. It will never be enough for him, or for people like him. He could literally own every single asset on Earth, and it wouldn't be enough- why do you think so many of the ultra-rich are obsessed with the idea of expanding their operations into extracting resources on other planets? They are slaves to Mammon, and so are their corporations, as per US law. Any corporation in the US has sole and exclusive responsibility to ensure the profit margins of their stockholders go up. If they made decisions that tanked the company's stock, they can and have been ousted by their stockholders. If you don't believe me, do some legal research yourself.
You will now call me cucked or some stupid shit that means "I don't want to listen to you because I can't form a counterargument that's grounded in anything but vague aspersions and want to blame the tides of culture on an evil conspiracy against me in specific" and post out-of-context quotes from Gates and Soros.

Dude, are you aware that there are huge activist investment firms and hedge funds whose specific goals are to drive corporate policy changes irrespective of the impact to profit? The idea that stock prices are tightly tethered to a companies profit margins/overall health or that the health of the stock market is tied to the health of the economy is completely outmoded anyways. You're just looking at this stuff in a way that is dated and frankly wrong. Individual investors have very little say in corporate board rooms, everything is controlled by funds and banks, they have the leverage and will make money whether stocks go up or down.

I won't call you a cuck but your take is frankly laughable. Woke Capital is real, whatever you want to think.

Payment processors for years have been shutting out countless people for political wrongthink, literally turning down free money, the only reason for their existence. Patreon kicked off freakin Sargon of Akkad because his lolbertarianism was a little too spicy for them. That started an exodus that probably cost them millions , and all's they had to do was just take the money and take their cut. There are endless examples from every payment processor you can think of: Paypal, Stripe, MasterCard, etc. A comprehensive list would be insane.

Jeff Bezos, the guy that just wants to hoover up all the money there is according to you, and Amazon placed a moratorium on police use of their facial recognition tech in order to appease BLM last year. That move will probably cost them tens or hundreds of millions in the long run as police switch to alternate providers. Microsoft annunced a similar moratorium and IBM got out of the biz completely.

Just a couple of examples.

So how exactly do you explain any of that with your "these guys are just slaves to Mammon" take? I don't think you can.

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

Payment processors for years have been shutting out countless people for political wrongthink, literally turning down free money, the only reason for their existence. Patreon kicked off freakin Sargon of Akkad because his lolbertarianism was a little too spicy for them. That started an exodus that probably cost them millions , and all's they had to do was just take the money and take their cut. There are endless examples from every payment processor you can think of: Paypal, Stripe, MasterCard, etc. A comprehensive list would be insane.

Jeff Bezos, the guy that just wants to hoover up all the money there is according to you, and Amazon placed a moratorium on police use of their facial recognition tech in order to appease BLM last year. That move will probably cost them tens or hundreds of millions in the long run as police switch to alternate providers. Microsoft annunced a similar moratorium and IBM got out of the biz completely.

Also, i think it was said in another thread, but this also ties with the fact that Youtube is currently operating at a loss and the platform is basically a propaganda machine. If the parent company of Youtube one day got bored of them, they would go under faster and harder than a truck with the breaks cut.

Money and greed are powerful things, but in this day and age people are willing to cap themselves at the knees for some deranged political belief, no matter what.

 

[Dafuqisdis?]

Also, i think it was said in another thread, but this also ties with the fact that Youtube is currently operating at a loss and the platform is basically a propaganda machine. If the parent company of Youtube one day got bored of them, they would go under faster and harder than a truck with the breaks cut.

Money and greed are powerful things, but in this day and age people are willing to cap themselves at the knees for some deranged political belief, no matter what.

Yes, and the thing is that these decisions don't even necessarily come from the top. There's a corporate culture at each of these places and the woke insinuate themselves in and then begin to hunt down dissenters (James Damore of Google) and consolidate their power, putting commisars in key decision making positions (Camilla Zhang of Kickstarter). They don't even really have to coordinate this stuff because the groupthink is so strong, but they do coordinate it anyway both through back channels and out in the open on social media. This more than anything drives these corporate policies.

The only thing if seen put the brakes on this is either the woke going too far, like Kickstarter employees trying to unionize and getting shitcanned thus causing the company to pull back from wokeness a bit, or a decision from the top to flush the troublemakers like the Red Bull founder did.

 

[Yellow Yam Scam]

Dude, are you aware that there are huge activist investment firms and hedge funds whose specific goals are to drive corporate policy changes irrespective of the impact to profit? The idea that stock prices are tightly tethered to a companies profit margins/overall health or that the health of the stock market is tied to the health of the economy is completely outmoded anyways. You're just looking at this stuff in a way that is dated and frankly wrong. Individual investors have very little say in corporate board rooms, everything is controlled by funds and banks, they have the leverage and will make money whether stocks go up or down.

I won't call you a cuck but your take is frankly laughable. Woke Capital is real, whatever you want to think.

Payment processors for years have been shutting out countless people for political wrongthink, literally turning down free money, the only reason for their existence. Patreon kicked off freakin Sargon of Akkad because his lolbertarianism was a little too spicy for them. That started an exodus that probably cost them millions , and all's they had to do was just take the money and take their cut. There are endless examples from every payment processor you can think of: Paypal, Stripe, MasterCard, etc. A comprehensive list would be insane.

Jeff Bezos, the guy that just wants to hoover up all the money there is according to you, and Amazon placed a moratorium on police use of their facial recognition tech in order to appease BLM last year. That move will probably cost them tens or hundreds of millions in the long run as police switch to alternate providers. Microsoft annunced a similar moratorium and IBM got out of the biz completely.

Just a couple of examples.

So how exactly do you explain any of that with your "these guys are just slaves to Mammon" take? I don't think you can.

The monetary value of PR is how you explain it.

 

[AnOminous]

Holy fuck there are still retards trying to claim that these huge conglomerates, stocked full of resentful libfags that will openly tell you that they are pro censorship against "hate speech", being pressured relentlessly by cohorts of media click-bait whores looking to target the next wrongthinker, are obeying market forces.

And yet RetardEra has gone after game after game with absolutely zero effect on its sales.

The first year the Grammys began awarding a prize for Best Rap Album, Public Enemy's It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back, one of the most influential and cherished albums of that decade, was released. The winner was Will Smith for an album of music recorded under his Fresh Prince of Bel-Air persona.

Dances With Wolves beat Goodfellas for Best Picture. Anyone who takes awards shows seriously after that is literally retarded.

 

[Dafuqisdis?]

The monetary value of PR is how you explain it.

There's no positive effect on your business from turning down millions of dollars, PR or otherwise. You won't get new customers and existing customers head out the door.

For instance, Patreon is in much worse shape as a company since they sent Sargon packing. They not only refused money but they created a market for competitors. Their latest boneheaded move was trying to remove some far right accounts against their original terms of service and getting sued to allow arbitration that will be so expensive their is a real risk of going under.

Any good PR in these instances has been shown to be worth jack shit.

 

[AnOminous]

Its sales are abysmal for the most hyped thing to happen on a console with 100 million installed units.

That would be those market forces you don't think exist.

Any good PR in these instances has been shown to be worth jack shit.

And the days of those who ignore market forces like this are numbered. Yeah you can do this for a while but then someone is going to come along and drink your milkshake for you.

God I am so fucking glad Trans Drama is reving back up again. I was starting to get depressed after Cyber Punk drama concluded.

Crazy troons and their autistic screeching are about the only thing that makes following RetardEra worthwhile.

 

[Dafuqisdis?]

That would be those market forces you don't think exist.

He knows market forces exist, the question is do they drive the behavior of these huge companies that have been around for decades with managerial groups running things that had nothing to do with the original success of the company. When it comes to profit motive versus virtue signaling and woke politics, the answer is no.

Don't be obtuse.

And yet RetardEra has gone after game after game with absolutely zero effect on its sales.

Yes, which shows the purchasing power of SJWs, so why do companies fall all over themselves to pander to them?

And the days of those who ignore market forces like this are numbered. Yeah you can do this for a while but then someone is going to come along and drink your milkshake for you.

No, many of these ginormous conglomerates are not going to be brought down by little guy, especially in this age of corporate collusion and focused media attacks than can strangle competitors in the crib. What are you going to do if you try to go up against the big guys and your payments processing gets shut off? It's already happened.

Like I said before, these are just old and outmoded ways of thinking. Yes, corporate wokeness can open up avenues for competition, but in an era of rapidly consolidating power the effect only goes so far.