Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[thyme's up]

https://www.christianpost.com/news/canadian-pastor-arrested-for-breaking-covid-19-restrictions.html

From the article: The pastor of a church in Canada remains in police custody for the fourth day on Saturday after being charged with violating Alberta’s COVID-19 rules and refusing to comply with his bail conditions.

It's a fairly long article but a good summary of what's going on with this church and officials in Alberta.

As far as who to trust? I trust common sense. Like someone said upthread, if this was a real pandemic, we wouldn't need anyone to tell us, we would witness it ourselves.

 

[Hackallier]

Apparently Canadians are going to need even harder measures or the cases are totally gonna explode.

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Forever lockdowns.

 

[Bosmadden]

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saw this thing posted on tumblr
If vaccine don't stop infection, what the point in taking it

Here's the CDC explainer

Understanding How COVID-19 Vaccines Work

Learn how COVID-19 vaccines work and develop immunity to the virus.

www.cdc.gov

Notice that nowhere do they state that any of the vaccines produce Covid-19 antibodies. (Because they don't).

Also from the CDC

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html

If I have already had COVID-19 and recovered, do I still need to get vaccinated with a COVID-19 vaccine?​

Yes, you should be vaccinated regardless of whether you already had COVID-19. That’s because experts do not yet know how long you are protected from getting sick again after recovering from COVID-19. Even if you have already recovered from COVID-19, it is possible—although rare—that you could be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19 again. Learn more about why getting vaccinated is a safer way to build protection than getting infected.

If you were treated for COVID-19 with monoclonal antibodies or convalescent plasma, you should wait 90 days before getting a COVID-19 vaccine. Talk to your doctor if you are unsure what treatments you received or if you have more questions about getting a COVID-19 vaccine.

Experts are still learning more about how long vaccines protect against COVID-19 in real-world conditions. CDC will keep the public informed as new evidence becomes available.

Now traditionally if you contract a viral illness and recover you gain, at least a degree, of immunity. But with Covid that apparently doesn't happen. Instead you should get a shot for something that won't produce Covid antibodies, which will give you more immunity compared to actually contracting the illness and having Covid-19 antibodies, which won't make you immune. That's science! BTW the average time from contracting Covid to losing Covid antibodies (never mind T-cell immunity) is around 1 year to 18 months.

Will a COVID-19 vaccination protect me from getting sick with COVID-19?​

Yes. COVID-19 vaccination works by teaching your immune system how to recognize and fight the virus that causes COVID-19, and this protects you from getting sick with COVID-19.

Being protected from getting sick is important because even though many people with COVID-19 have only a mild illness, others may get a severe illness, have long-term health effects, or even die. There is no way to know how COVID-19 will affect you, even if you don’t have an increased risk of developing severe complications. Learn more about how COVID-19 vaccines work.

Notice that they're being very careful in not claiming that the vaccines will stop you catching Covid, only that you'll be less sick when you do catch it (an entirely unproven hypothesis). It's written with deliberate code words, "teaching your immune system", "protected", "fight the virus". But again nowhere do they claim that the vaccines will stop you catching the coof, which is remarkable. Can anyone point to another example in medical history where a mass vaccination campaign has been undertaken using vaccines that don't actually prevent the transmission of an illness?

 

[Blake Chortles]

Apparently Canadians are going to need even harder measures or the cases are totally gonna explode.
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Forever lockdowns.

They really arent even pretending they aren’t just making shit like that graph up.

 

[Bosmadden]

Thanks family for the positive replies and stickers! I was actually a bit scared to post, but emotion this morning got the best of me. I am glad I did!
This is my 2nd favorite thread (Lucas Werner is my absolute favorite cow).
What does it say about society when a thread on the farms (it is a needed and awesome thread) provides better resources and information then mainstream media.
I felt like I owed it to you guys to share my experiences with the vaccines being distributed here.
To be fair, I have only heard about half the residents here having flu like symptoms (aside from the death and hospitalization of course).
The question remains, is this vaccine which experts are estimating to be only effective for 3 to 5 months worth the possible health risks and later complications? To me this risk is the very definition of insanity. I would, like a lot of you, rather get an injection of Covid than an untested vaccine with unknown long-term side effects.
Thanks for the kind words, I was not sure what to expect on the farms. This thread is great and has helped me feel like I am not the last sane man on a dying clown planet.

We'll all have to make our own decisions. My wife is determined to get it because she thinks things will go back to normal once everyone gets their shots (I don't have the heart to break it to her).

She thinks I'm weird for refusing it, but we both agree the kids won't be getting it under any and all circumstances.

If I was a geezer in a nursing home facing another year of soft prison like conditions I would have a different take.

In practical terms Covid is done. We reached herd immunity in December and the pandemic wave has crashed, so even if the vaccines were effective it's pretty much irrelevant from a public health perspective.

The next Covid wave will be due in 18 months to 2 years, once the immunity from the past wave has worn off. In the normal scheme of things the next pandemic will be less severe with far fewer deaths, we lose antibodies but retain T-cell immunity and viruses become more infectious but less lethal over time.

If that's the case then the pro vaxers will hail it a great success, even though it will have had nothing to do with the vaccines. If there is a big jump in mortality (because of the obvious dangers of injecting hundreds of millions with non sterilizing vaccines) they'll blame the non vaccinated and double down.

It's heads I win tails you lose.

 

[Just wandering]

They really arent even pretending they aren’t just making shit like that graph up.

it don't even match up how they come to the conclusion

 

[Salubrious]

U.S. nears 500,000 COVID-19 deaths as Biden plans commemoration

The United States faces a dark milestone this week despite a recent decline in COVID-19 cases as it prepares to mark a staggering half-million deaths, with President Joe Biden planning to memorialize the lives lost.

www.reuters.com

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Americans may still need to wear masks in 2022 even as the country relaxes other restrictions to combat COVID-19, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, said on Sunday.

Blah blah blah. They are ALREADY setting up 2022. We aren't even in the spring yet, the infection rates are dropping dramatically, but sure.

 

[Unpaid Emotional Labourer]

Honestly, why does Fauci keep talking? He’s very bad at this. Has he ever actually made the same claim twice? Every goddamn day, it’s another Fauci quote that is entirely different from anything he said before.

 

[King Dead]

Honestly, why does Fauci keep talking? He’s very bad at this. Has he ever actually made the same claim twice? Every goddamn day, it’s another Fauci quote that is entirely different from anything he said before.

I'm increasingly hating the man with every fiber of my being. When it was clear that nothing he was saying was having any positive impact on things and that the coof really isn't that deadly, Trump should have thrown his geriatric ass on the street, stopped all the precaution theater, and put out directives to the states to reopen and let it pass naturally. Trump still would have been blamed for the deaths anyway because our media is even more intellectually dishonest than Fauci, but at least the economy wouldn't be on the verge of collapse in the process. But he kept him around and we're all suffering for it.

Eat a bag of dicks, Fauci. I am not wearing a mask for a whole goddamn year. Fingers crossed my state comes to its senses and lets the current mandate expire in a couple weeks. I'm not confrontational by nature, but I'm at my limit on this theatrical bullshit that does nothing. Seriously considering a move to based DeSantisland.

 

[Salubrious]

Honestly, why does Fauci keep talking? He’s very bad at this. Has he ever actually made the same claim twice? Every goddamn day, it’s another Fauci quote that is entirely different from anything he said before.

He's clearly a highly paid ($400K+!) mouthpiece who says whatever he needs to say in that moment and the MSM will cover for him.

His policy keeps changing because the Democratic policy keeps changing to suit their needs for the current moment.

I'm increasingly hating the man with every fiber of my being. When it was clear that nothing he was saying was having any positive impact on things and that the coof really isn't that deadly, Trump should have thrown his geriatric ass on the street, stopped all the precaution theater, and put out directives to the states to reopen and let it pass naturally. Trump still would have been blamed for the deaths anyway because our media is even more intellectually dishonest than Fauci, but at least the economy wouldn't be on the verge of collapse in the process. But he kept him around and we're all suffering for it.

Eat a bag of dicks, Fauci. I am not wearing a mask for a whole goddamn year. Fingers crossed my state comes to its senses and lets the current mandate expire in a couple weeks. I'm not confrontational by nature, but I'm at my limit on this theatrical bullshit that does nothing. Seriously considering a move to based DeSantisland.

I could be wrong, but I don't think Fauci ever directly worked for Trump. I think he was part of the task force and had to be because he was the Director of the NAIAD. He didn't become the "Chief Medical Advisor to the President" until Biden took office.

I think it was less that Trump trusted him as much as the MSM did, and would quote him at every opportunity.

 

[Meriasek]

Apparently Canadians are going to need even harder measures or the cases are totally gonna explode.
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Forever lockdowns.

Yeah, we got similar graphics here. Just assuming that the mutants will spread faster at similar restrictions, the whole thing sounds like mathematical trickery to me.

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

 

[XYZpdq]

So how does one go about faking up a vax card. As a joke. In Minecraft.

 

[Ari Gold]

SAN FRANCISCO – Nearly a year into a life-altering pandemic, many Americans are fed up with wearing masks, desperate for a return to normalcy and numb to the relentless stream of grim numbers, such as the 500,000 COVID-19 deaths the USA is about to surpass.

Health care workers don’t want to hear any of that.
They have been working endless hours amid constant death and suffering, forsaking time off and exposing themselves to the disease, leaving them exhausted and with no real indication of when the pandemic will relent.

Michael Daignault, an emergency room physician at Providence St. Joseph Medical Center in Burbank, California, recalls the joy and relief among his co-workers when they got vaccinated. Several posted online photos of themselves getting the shot, which he said may have helped convince some people that the vaccine is safe.

Those are some of the challenges the United States faces as it conducts the largest vaccination campaign in its history, hoping to arrest the march toward 600,000 COVID-19 deaths. It’s too late to avoid getting to 500,000, more than twice as many as reported in Brazil, a distant second on the somber list.

Daignault called the 500,000 milestone “heartbreaking,” thinking back to his grandfather’s participation in the D-Day invasion during World War II, a conflict that claimed the lives of about 405,000 U.S. service members.

“I have a bunch of pictures of him on my wall,” Daignault said, “and when I go into work every day, I look at those pictures and feel like, ‘This is my D-Day. This is our generation’s D-Day here. This is our fight.’”

Story.

Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.


A narcissistic personality disorder causes problems in many areas of life, such as relationships, work, school or financial affairs. People with narcissistic personality disorder may be generally unhappy and disappointed when they're not given the special favors or admiration they believe they deserve. They may find their relationships unfulfilling, and others may not enjoy being around them.

Treatment for narcissistic personality disorder centers around talk therapy (psychotherapy).

Kooks.

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Why should our numbers be near that of Brazil's anyway? The US is more heavily populated than Brazil at 328 million in comparison to 211 million. And we are much fatter with 36 percent of the country as obese in 2016 in comparison to Brazil's 22 percent. Cite.

Why is obesity a risk factor for severe covid-19?​

In July Public Health England estimated that having a BMI of 35 to 40 could increase a person’s chances of dying from covid-19 by 40%, while a BMI greater than 40 could increase the risk by 90%.1 But why is this?

Stephen O’Rahilly, director of the Medical Research Council’s Metabolic Diseases Unit at the University of Cambridge, also speaking at the briefing, said, “Two things happen when obesity occurs: the amount of fat increases, but also you put fat in the wrong places. You put it in the liver and in skeletal muscle. And that disturbs metabolism. The key disturbance is that you get very high levels of insulin in the blood.”

This disturbance is associated with a range of abnormalities, including increases in inflammatory cytokines and a reduction of a molecule called adiponectin that directly protects the lungs, he says.

It’s also possible that fat increases in the lung itself, which may disturb how the lung handles the virus, he adds. “The simple stuff you read about—big chest, big bellies, et cetera—is all grossly oversimplistic. What is really going on is metabolic, and we know that because if we look at genetic markers for the metabolic disturbance they are much more closely related to the bad outcomes than genetic markers for obesity itself,” O’Rahilly says.

Fat-shaming.

 

[Salubrious]

Opinion | Don’t Go Down the Rabbit Hole

Critical thinking, as we’re taught to do it, isn’t helping in the fight against misinformation.

www.nytimes.com

Critical thinking, as we’re taught to do it, isn’t helping in the fight against misinformation.

“We’re taught that, in order to protect ourselves from bad information, we need to deeply engage with the stuff that washes up in front of us,” Mr. Caulfield told me recently. He suggested that the dominant mode of media literacy (if kids get taught any at all) is that “you’ll get imperfect information and then use reasoning to fix that somehow. But in reality, that strategy can completely backfire.”


Geez, I dunno why we wouldn't want to trust people when they are literally and openly saying "don't think about what you are being told"?

 

[NyQuilninja]

My significant other was slated to return to in office work in march. However that's been moved back to October now with no clear date stated. So its permanent work from home mode

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

 

[Michael Jacks0n]

So how does one go about faking up a vax card. As a joke. In Minecraft.

Hey, as long as they ain't laminated or holographic like drivers licenses...and as long as people can't scan the barcodes on the bottom...it should be something that can be easily done in Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop (in Barney's Hide & Seek Adventure, of course).

 

[Vault Boy]

My significant other was slated to return to in office work in march. However that's been moved back to October now with no clear date stated. So its permanent work from home mode

October, when flu seasons usually start? Sorry man, but I think that's a goalpost in perpetual motion.

 

[Meriasek]

Huh, so one of the consultants on our "expert gremium" on the Coof, the group of people who wrote what we call the "panic paper" detailing the governments strategy to get the population to comply with all the restrictions, is an austrian guy who's apparently a big fan of Mao, and whose qualification is basically being a professional language controller.