General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[LullerDerbyRollin]

In regards to the mizuryu thing, it should be mentioned that THIS superchat was dug up by https://twitter.com/yukizukin0613/status/1363845428177891328?s=21
Translated by an anon:
>Thanks for the captain's singing slot! Captain's singing voice in the long winter night.
>I'm not sure what to say. ......- By the way, Captain, you know what?
>This is just a story from a friend of mine, but there is a doujinshi of the captain for all ages, and
>I'm talking about the captain's all-ages doujinshi, the adult doujinshi where he sexually abuses the captain, and even a tapestry.
>Should I give them all away as gifts?
>Is it better to give them all as gifts?
>.... What do you think? I'm sure you can tell me more.

I’m thinking this superchat may have had to do with the meltdown. Couldn’t find it in Marine’s prestream today, so it was either deleted or from a different stream.

I'm gonna laugh if he's a fucking sperg gachikoi all along.

 

[Green Oil]

According to Leddit:

It feels like Uto illust drama, I feel some deja vu here, melt down on twitter - realize they do was actually stupid when heat is up - boom.

In regards to the mizuryu thing, it should be mentioned that THIS superchat was dug up by https://twitter.com/yukizukin0613/status/1363845428177891328?s=21
Translated by an anon:
>Thanks for the captain's singing slot! Captain's singing voice in the long winter night.
>I'm not sure what to say. ......- By the way, Captain, you know what?
>This is just a story from a friend of mine, but there is a doujinshi of the captain for all ages, and
>I'm talking about the captain's all-ages doujinshi, the adult doujinshi where he sexually abuses the captain, and even a tapestry.
>Should I give them all away as gifts?
>Is it better to give them all as gifts?
>.... What do you think? I'm sure you can tell me more.

I’m thinking this superchat may have had to do with the meltdown. Couldn’t find it in Marine’s prestream today, so it was either deleted or from a different stream.

The theory he creep getting stronger. I repeat, theory so take it with grain of salt.

 

[Rezza]

In regards to the mizuryu thing, it should be mentioned that THIS superchat was dug up by https://twitter.com/yukizukin0613/status/1363845428177891328?s=21
Translated by an anon:
>Thanks for the captain's singing slot! Captain's singing voice in the long winter night.
>I'm not sure what to say. ......- By the way, Captain, you know what?
>This is just a story from a friend of mine, but there is a doujinshi of the captain for all ages, and
>I'm talking about the captain's all-ages doujinshi, the adult doujinshi where he sexually abuses the captain, and even a tapestry.
>Should I give them all away as gifts?
>Is it better to give them all as gifts?
>.... What do you think? I'm sure you can tell me more.

I’m thinking this superchat may have had to do with the meltdown. Couldn’t find it in Marine’s prestream today, so it was either deleted or from a different stream.

Damn, this is creepy if you think about it

 

[cypher3057]

Now I no longer feel bad for Kei having Shikiyoku INFINITE be unjustly butchered by PowerPoint slide show Queen Bee.

This’ll be interesting to see if this goes anywhere. Wasn’t there a rule from cover about lewding the talents? Lewding is the wrong word, I don’t know what else to put. More like drawing the talents straight up being raped or having sex. Let alone selling it without Covers permission (I highly doubt Cover gave the ok to sell a Marine being raped manga). Also what looks like advertising it on Marine’s stream.

 

[Rezza]

In regards to the mizuryu thing, it should be mentioned that THIS superchat was dug up by https://twitter.com/yukizukin0613/status/1363845428177891328?s=21
Translated by an anon:
>Thanks for the captain's singing slot! Captain's singing voice in the long winter night.
>I'm not sure what to say. ......- By the way, Captain, you know what?
>This is just a story from a friend of mine, but there is a doujinshi of the captain for all ages, and
>I'm talking about the captain's all-ages doujinshi, the adult doujinshi where he sexually abuses the captain, and even a tapestry.
>Should I give them all away as gifts?
>Is it better to give them all as gifts?
>.... What do you think? I'm sure you can tell me more.

I’m thinking this superchat may have had to do with the meltdown. Couldn’t find it in Marine’s prestream today, so it was either deleted or from a different stream.

I checked the tweet. Looks like the majority of people also found this SC unpleasant. Some are calling it sekuhara (sexual harassment), which if you think about it, kind of makes sense since he asked it publicly

 

[LullerDerbyRollin]

Damn, this really is fast n' spergious. Dude's just a gachikoi that took a business gig to try and hop on board with his favorite Holo. Does this cunt think he's gonna find much professional work after this?

 

[Catgirl Panic]

Now I no longer feel bad for Kei having Shikiyoku INFINITE be unjustly butchered by PowerPoint slide show Queen Bee.

This’ll be interesting to see if this goes anywhere. Wasn’t there a rule from cover about lewding the talents? Lewding is the wrong word, I don’t know what else to put. More like drawing the talents straight up being raped or having sex. Let alone selling it without Covers permission (I highly doubt Cover gave the ok to sell a Marine being raped manga). Also what looks like advertising it on Marine’s stream.

Not needing permission seems to be the rule for Japanese media and is a big reason why the doujin scene is so large. Not sure why Cover would even get involved with Kei in the first place with the way they are.

 

[Rezza]

I checked the tweet. Looks like the majority of people also found this SC unpleasant. Some are calling it sekuhara (sexual harassment), which if you think about it, kind of makes sense since he asked it publicly

Wait, apparently there's a suspicion that the SC screenshot has been edited. Haven't confirmed it yet
But someone said about being blocked by the guy when you criticized him. Strange. Have to say, this could be big or not depending on how Cover did it. Wait until tomorrow for the updates and the like since its already 1 in the morning in Japan. Probably more jp people will talk about it in 6-7 hour

 

[Govt. Shitposting Machine]

Now I no longer feel bad for Kei having Shikiyoku INFINITE be unjustly butchered by PowerPoint slide show Queen Bee.

This’ll be interesting to see if this goes anywhere. Wasn’t there a rule from cover about lewding the talents? Lewding is the wrong word, I don’t know what else to put. More like drawing the talents straight up being raped or having sex. Let alone selling it without Covers permission (I highly doubt Cover gave the ok to sell a Marine being raped manga). Also what looks like advertising it on Marine’s stream.

If it was just for drawing porn doujinshi without permission that'd be retarded, there's already a bunch of that out there and I doubt Cover has the time to go through hundreds of requests for "Sir may I please draw Gawr Gura taking a hot shit for 12 pages?" let alone go after all the artists that did not get permission. I've seen people on /vt/ post this cap:

(Some other popular hentai artist, I'm not familiar with them though)
And it's probably more likely because if it was just sexual harassment and creeping gachikoi then Lyger would already be dead in Covers eyes. He did just recently release a Marine doujin while under contract iirc? (6 months of working and this doujin was 2-3 months ago?)
Kind of a shame, he's a meme hentai artist yeah but it would have been a good opprotunity for him to show off his manga drawing skills for once. Also lol @ people who think he's actually Chinese.

 

[Potatohead]

Marine puts up the whole “Gawd I’m so fucking HORNY”! act very well, but she’s also said in members streams that she’s sick of it, but before THAY was publicized she was ALSO clipped saying shit like how she had to clamp down on her libido by thinking of cockroaches until it stopped working. That stuff makes this situation all the more confusing.

Regardless of whether or not Marine acting lewd on stream and asking for doujins to be made of her is her real personality, telling her “Yeah I did the thing, lemme know if you wanna get hooked up huehuehue” in a superchat is fucked.

 

[Bogged_account887744]

Everyone and their mother covering KING.

Meanwhile, there's Polka, covering ENVY BABY.

Pretty sure the second Kanaria puts out new song VTubers are all over it like flies on shit.

She already covered King too... In her roommate channel

 

[Green Oil]

Damn, this really is fast n' spergious. Dude's just a gachikoi that took a business gig to try and hop on board with his favorite Holo. Does this cunt think he's gonna find much professional work after this?

If someone find so much evident what's behind him if he actually a creepy gachikoi that very talented to draw and get menhera, well there's a possibility he never got job again. Take example of Uto latest drama, the damage is too big.

Not needing permission seems to be the rule for Japanese media and is a big reason why the doujin scene is so large. Not sure why Cover would even get involved with Kei in the first place with the way they are.

I actually learn when love live staff prohibited fans to make fan-merchandise (doujin still get pass) because what they using is not their property but selling it. You can actually see some of LL fan artist have contract with LL staff too.

 

[LullerDerbyRollin]

Okay, so we all now know he was in fact an autistic creep, now we see how long it takes Reddit to piece it together and group think it into acceptance.

@Green Oil Good, I do not wanna see r18 smut about Rina, she's a good girl.

 

[Rezza]

Not needing permission seems to be the rule for Japanese media and is a big reason why the doujin scene is so large. Not sure why Cover would even get involved with Kei in the first place with the way they are.

If it was just for drawing porn doujinshi without permission that'd be retarded, there's already a bunch of that out there and I doubt Cover has the time to go through hundreds of requests for "Sir may I please draw Gawr Gura taking a hot shit for 12 pages?" let alone go after all the artists that did not get permission. I've seen people on /vt/ post this cap:
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(Some other popular hentai artist, I'm not familiar with them though)
And it's probably more likely because if it was just sexual harassment and creeping gachikoi then Lyger would already be dead in Covers eyes. He did just recently release a Marine doujin while under contract iirc? (6 months of working and this doujin was 2-3 months ago?)
Kind of a shame, he's a meme hentai artist yeah but it would have been a good opprotunity for him to show off his manga drawing skills for once. Also lol @ people who think he's actually Chinese.

I know that guy. He's a Hongkong artist that went anti-china/Xi Jinping so hard he embraces Q and trump shits. Serious. Always take what he said with a grain of salt

Also, an IP owner deciding to forbid a porn fanart or so is not that uncommon in Japan. I mean, recently Khara decided to forbid any Evangelion porn made. Considering the grey area doujinshi are, most creators complies whenever the IP owner decided it so

 

[Green Oil]

Okay, so we all now know he was in fact an autistic creep, now we see how long it takes Reddit to piece it together and group think it into acceptance.

@Green Oil Good, I do not wanna see r18 smut about Rina, she's a good girl.

Ho ho, you didn't dig very deep my friend. There is actually but I don't wanna tell you.

 

[LullerDerbyRollin]

Ho ho, you didn't dig very deep my friend. There is actually but I don't wanna tell you.

No, I specifically don't dig because I know there is.

 

[Uruk]

To add my two cents and from what I've seen, there are these two tweets from this person who Kei follows on Twitter. He speculates that the reason for this sudden severing of the contract between Kei and Cover is a result of Cover suddenly requesting he take down all the R-18 works involving Hololive talents. This is probably seen as highly unreasonable, as Cover definitely knew he had made these works before hiring him and were seemingly willing to overlook them. But with the project going public, management suddenly changes their mind, it can be seen as a huge slap in the when compared to the (alleged) original agreement.

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Link to those tweets.

I also think it's somewhat unreasonable to label the guy as a "gachikoi creep" when a big reason for him even initially getting the project is because him and Marine were acquaintances of sorts. I believe the doujin the super chat was referring to was actually released two months ago, so he made and released it while being under Cover's employment and the company didn't seem to raise a fuss then.

 

[jankhater]

I don't think its right to accuse everyone who has a falling out with cover as being a creep or gachi. It seems unlikely that an artist would need to interact with the talents at all and would be aware of that.

I think if this is covers first project of this nature it is possible they made mistakes, though putting them on blast on twitter is very unprofessional.

That is a fair take. Perv accusations tend to stick pretty hard based on nothing.

His outburst is really setting off the massive deflection red flags for me though. It's the level of lashing out equal to a pedo or dograpist being outed even after adjusting for artist melodrama.

 

[Blatant hypocrite]

For a Nanjing denier and Netto Uryoku, he can be quite a hypocrite

Why? Denying a genocide in China should be something he and the chinks can bond over.

 

[Cubanodun]

This makes me curious if there's any contractual stuff in Hololive for relationships with Holostars.

The contract say that they TECHNICALLY can have BF but there is a bullshit clause that "the company encourage friendship between their talents" operative word Friendship

I wouldn't be surprised one bit if it came out Fubuki and Oga are going out

To my surprise even her gachikois are pretty shill about it

As she herself has said, you can love your friends without making it weird. This is definitely a display of how much she cares about Kiara.

As a honorary deadbeat is my duty to make it weird, that thing is a engagement ring in mall goth fashion

To add my two cents and from what I've seen, there are these two tweets from this person who Kei follows on Twitter. He speculates that the reason for this sudden severing of the contract between Kei and Cover is a result of Cover suddenly requesting he take down all the R-18 works involving Hololive talents. This is probably seen as highly unreasonable, as Cover definitely knew he had made these works before hiring him and were seemingly willing to overlook them. But with the project going public, management suddenly changes their mind, it can be seen as a huge slap in the when compared to the (alleged) original agreement.

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Link to those tweets.

I also think it's somewhat unreasonable to label the guy as a "gachikoi creep" when a big reason for him even initially getting the project is because him and Marine were acquaintances of sorts. I believe the doujin the super chat was referring to was actually released two months ago, so he made and released it while being under Cover's employment and the company didn't seem to raise a fuss then.

ITS BEEN 0 FUCKING DAYS SINCE COVER DID SOMETHING STUPID AGAIN

And for context this is not a standard in Japan, for example PINTA the creator of Ushiwakamaru in FGO released lewds like every so months of her and Sony just dont give a shit (or encourage him about it)