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Orbiter🏳️🌈🐱 Nick Fuentes / Nicholas Joseph Fuentes / der America First Pürrer / "Nick the Knife" - CatboyKami's ex. Flipped fed asset after January 6th. Groypers are pardoned for January 6th, still a fag. Kept Ali Akbar, brown muslim boy-hungry pedophile, around groypers knowing what he was. Hates white women more than blacks and jews.
Moldbug has praised Fuentes as "talented," but criticized him for taking a counter-productive, "antagonistic" attitude toward authority, & for "ripping off" the original groypers.
He absolutely would do it if asked. He's a desperate, desperate man. But you're right, there's no sign he's on Fuentes' radar.
Remember my friends, we have to listen and believe only when it suits our narrative.
As for the fedpac, I think its going to be a snooze fest. The feds will collect all the info and sit on it forever unless it becomes relevant, and nicks grift will go on intact for the most part. I dont think e will be seeing some sort of true grifter civil war anytime soon, because at the end of the day it can only hurt their grift.
I haven't seen anyone speculate on right wing journalist types yet. Nick has spoken very highly of people like Andrew Anglin, and if his hyping up isnt just hot air, I almost suspect someone like Mencious Moldbug. These seem like much more realistic choices than the ones proposed in this thread, but I have no idea how the other speakers would feel comfortable with these guys.
Moldbug has been hanging around the Michael Malice/Thaddeus Russell/Dave Smith camp as of late, so it may be possible as that camp has had some mild communication with Fuentes in the past. I think Moldbug would do it, he's become a bit of a glutton for publicity as of late and he has experience with public appearances. However, other than the Malice/Russell/Smith mutual acquaintanceship I'm not sure Fuentes knows who Moldbug is. I've never heard Fuentes reference the Cathedral, despite that being a mainstream term on the dissident right at this point, and he doesn't really strike me as someone who reads.
Moldbug has been hanging around the Michael Malice/Thaddeus Russell/Dave Smith camp as of late, so it may be possible as that camp has had some mild communication with Fuentes in the past. I think Moldbug would do it, he's become a bit of a glutton for publicity as of late and he has experience with public appearances. However, other than the Malice/Russell/Smith mutual acquaintanceship I'm not sure Fuentes knows who Moldbug is. I've never heard Fuentes reference the Cathedral, despite that being a mainstream term on the dissident right at this point, and he doesn't really strike me as someone who reads.
Nick reads more than he generally lets on, there's a clip where he makes fun of normiecon books like Patriots and Pinheads, and he's referenced Spengler in the past, generally appearing to understand it. He definitely hates on the whole Ty Lopez 'read a book a week' self-improvement schtick, and tells people they're probably going to be losers forever lmao.
Someone once also sent a superchat along those lines saying something like "start powerlifting, read Spengler, Evola, Moldbug" and he proceeded to mock them without asking what the fuck a Moldbug is. So I know people in the AF sphere have referred to it. He's also been on a show with The Distributist, and they talked about Catholicism. The Distributist made arguably the most accessible video on Moldbug, so I'd be surprised if he hadn't at least read some Moldbug or watched a few videos. It's pretty hard to be invested in the dissident right without getting bitten by the Moldbug, I just think he avoids referring to the theories explicitly because it's way too fucking online. 'The Cathedral', 'The Inner and Outer Party', 'Bioleninism', like fuck me, you can tell none of these niggers had an editor over their shoulder.
Moldbug has been hanging around the Michael Malice/Thaddeus Russell/Dave Smith camp as of late, so it may be possible as that camp has had some mild communication with Fuentes in the past. I think Moldbug would do it, he's become a bit of a glutton for publicity as of late and he has experience with public appearances. However, other than the Malice/Russell/Smith mutual acquaintanceship I'm not sure Fuentes knows who Moldbug is. I've never heard Fuentes reference the Cathedral, despite that being a mainstream term on the dissident right at this point, and he doesn't really strike me as someone who reads.
You're probably right. I just recall Nick referencing Nick Land and Dark Enlightenment when discussing the forming of his current views. It must've been at least 6 months ago but I am sure he's at least name dropped them, whether or not he's actually read them is another story.
That lines up disturbingly well. His Dad IS Eugene Levy, and Nick is his effeminate bisexual son. I wouldn't be surprised if his sister is a vapid bitch and his mother is a basket case.
Nick reads more than he generally lets on, there's a clip where he makes fun of normiecon books like Patriots and Pinheads, and he's referenced Spengler in the past, generally appearing to understand it. He definitely hates on the whole Ty Lopez 'read a book a week' self-improvement schtick, and tells people they're probably going to be losers forever lmao.
Nick Fuentes playing with legos
idk if @Kenobi is here but here is the video as promised, I managed to find it accidentally
part 1: View attachment 1942022
It's a Kirk outline, but I doubt he's gonna go obviously, so they just did that to fuck with people. Wouldn't be surprised if it's Laura Loomer or someone really gay.
It's obviously not Kirk, but here's an interesting bit from the AFPAC website that highlights Nick's delusions:
In 2019, Fuentes led the “Groyper” movement, which has been widely credited with pushing mainstream conservatives like Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh to take stronger positions on issues like immigration, big tech, and foreign policy.
Nick still thinks he's pushing the GOP rightwards. While it's true that Charlie Kirk has moved rhetorically to the right recently (he was posting about 13/50 during the Floyd riots for example), Nick doesn't understand why that is and what it means for him.
IMO Kirk is smarter than he appears. From the get-go, Nick never understood what Charlie Kirk's grift was. TPUSA was never a youth outreach organization. Their targets were the parents and grandparents of college students, who they bilked out of money by pretending to be doing something about college campuses, and establishment donor networks to provide the next generation of wingnut welfare.
Kirk was never this useful idiot who genuinely thought sodomy would win the culture war, but a knowing operative who cultivates the messaging he does for a reason. What he says sounds stupid because mainstream conservative ideology is stupid (losing culture wars by design) and he thinks very little of his audience, not because he's personally a moron.
When people are no longer receptive towards his typical slop, Kirk is smart enough pick up on this and pivot to the right in service of his grift, so his audience won't be lost to people outside the acceptable cuckservative ghetto. This is why he's now parroting some things Fuentes would be sympathetic to, not because he's been broken by the sheer power of the Groyper Army. Like GOP dogwhistling always is, it's a one-way street that only serves Charlie and his bosses.
Nick isn't just a grifter. He's also one of the biggest, fattest marks around.
What Kirk is doing has been GOP strategy for decades, especially post-2016. Some on the alt-right thought Zion Don and his talking heads dropping occasional dogwhistles towards them was evidence their ideas were infiltrating the GOP. They had it backwards, and it was them being outwitted and infiltrated.
What people need to understand about Nick Fuentes is that he's not just a grifter. He's also one of the biggest, fattest marks around.
It is vital for anyone Right of Jeb! to realize that what Trump and his candidacy/presidency was in effect an A/B tested method to co-opt a rising authentic Rightist tide in the United States.
When the internets were still relatively free and algorithms more or less worked as intended, there was an intense and spreading rejection of the narrative handed to us of the 1945 Settlement (which is essentially the origin story for every generation since the so-called "Greatest.") Trump himself may well have just vaguely sensed an opportunity; indeed his handlers had a keener sense of how a Zion Don presidency could a) enrich them b) neutralize actual Rightist sentiments and c) prevent a resurgence of any coherent repudiation of Modernism and Post-modernism.
Enter Fedentes, who as an up and coming butt buddy of Charlie Kirk opposed candidate Trump for his "racism" inter alia. The fatal error of Nickelodeon is that he seems to believe some of the delusional phantasms that he produced. On some level, he operates as though he is utterly protected. My speculation on this is that he has felt strong knowing or at least believing that he has the backing of the Mercer/Bannon stream of the power structure.
(Off topic thread to pull on is the idea that there are multiple streams within the new world order system and that there is a quasi "Rightist" stream that Bannon et al are working with or on behalf of. Radio Vendee explored this recently with Dr Jesse Russell.)
Fedentes also seems to have grown up in an upper middle class situation, which probably contributes to his extreme arrogance. One cannot forget that he frequently makes fun of people working retail/service jobs in exceptionally cruel ways. In some ways, despite his appeal to suppossed superior optics, Nickelodeon is even more of a cartoon villain than was Dick Spencer.
T keys in on something important: Fedentes could well be a case of another e-celeb grifter who ultimately grifts himself due to his uncontrolled narcissism and its perverted/disordered exponents.
Anyone with a handful of common sense appreciated that the January 6 event was intended to be another Cville. This catboi aficionado did not care; he promoted this event for several weeks, right down to the practice run of storming the Georgia state capital (shoulder to shoulder with Alex "I frequently talk to the FBI" Jones and Ali "GRINDR" Akbar, both under FBI investigation.) Fedentes even boasted of the Capitol MAGA train-wreck on Twitter and then on his web broadcast, indicating a severe lack of maturity, self control, and fundamental appreciation for how politics/justice really operate.
Just as Spencer was set up as a kind of cartoonish WASP bad guy, Nicky is now a cross between bin Laden and Matt Hale. His being featured in the Impeachment drama as a ring leader of the January 6 incident means that some FBI team got a call right after to dig deep and return indictments. At this point, I would be genuinely stunned if he has not become an actual CI and it tasked with gathering up as many of his "Groyper Army" misfits misguided enough to follow this manchild liar. Those Bannon/Mercer connections are not going to stop an FBI indictment, which was greenlit the minute Fedentes was awarded a starring role in the Impeachment presentation.
A quick side note: some might say that Jones and Akbar being investigated by the FBI means that they are not themselves feds. This position would be incredibly wrongheaded. CIs are not invincible: the feds can and do look the other way (sometimes way the the other way), but this is all conditions permitting. If the political tides are such that CIs have to get burned, they absolutely will be. Also, consider that it took over a month for the FBI to announce an investigation into these two grifers who ensured the warm bodies would be present for Cville 2.0. Meanwhile randos who simply were photographed at the Capitol were getting vanned hours afterwards.
Unfortunately for us, what the grifter marks like Fedentes will have achieved is, as I wrote in a previous post, a literal criminalization of political attitudes that hint of Old Rightism.
You're probably right. I just recall Nick referencing Nick Land and Dark Enlightenment when discussing the forming of his current views. It must've been at least 6 months ago but I am sure he's at least name dropped them, whether or not he's actually read them is another story.
I'm convinced Nick doesn't read anything he references, he probably just picks up bits and pieces from the internet and his friends. Usually people who read political books get interested in a specific avenue of thought, but what literary interests Nick seems to have made evident in his stream are totally scattered and barely interrelated. For example, why would a diehard Catholic read Evola? Evola is a staunch critic of the Catholic church and maintains that it has only been a force for subversion since the victory of the Guelphs (papists) in the HRE. Yet he's discussed having read Revolt Against the Modern World on his stream, and people in his periphery (Kami mainly) have tried reading it too. Naturally they get filtered from it and stop half way through.
In fact, I'm 100% sure he's just bandwagoning, he doesn't care about the ideas. Nick spends most of his time on his streams regurgitating 2016 Pol's Trump cheerleading, offering no unique analysis or insight. Coincidentally all the books he supposedly reads are the same ones that were floating around in Pol's egregore: Spengler's Decline of the West, Evola's Revolt Against the Modern World and Ride the Tiger, some dark enlightenment stuff, Nick Land's Fanged Noumena (this is where all the accelerationist shit comes from,) and some others. The fact that the first Evola book he decided to attempt reading was Revolt is enough proof he really doesn't care or know what he's doing, since that's a really bad place to start, but it's the book often recommended on Pol, lending some weight to Nick just bandwagoning books like a woman.
Maybe if he read more books he would be less ideologically inconsistent. He has said on streams in the past that there is no political solution. Yet, he holds political events and plans to put up candidates in US political races. He's putting a lot of people in danger, encouraging them to do something that he believes is completely futile. He has no guiding political strategy really, just democratic fervor that drives endless LARPing. If he read a lot I'd expect him to expound some kind of political theory. Dark Enlightenment guys have red/blue state and inner/outer party alongside a recognition of democracy as futile, some other reactionary spheres have guys like De Jouvenel and Carl Schmitt, fascists have Giovanni Gentile and Mussolini expounding a clear doctrine, but Nick is just running on WASP Democracy's paltry fumes. He's a blind leader who thinks he can give young guys direction, just wants to get up on stage and be the guy who gives speeches, because the more speeches you give, the more politics you're doing.
I'm convinced Nick doesn't read anything he references, he probably just picks up bits and pieces from the internet and his friends. Usually people who read political books get interested in a specific avenue of thought, but what literary interests Nick seems to have made evident in his stream are totally scattered and barely interrelated. For example, why would a diehard Catholic read Evola? Evola is a staunch critic of the Catholic church and maintains that it has only been a force for subversion since the victory of the Guelphs (papists) in the HRE. Yet he's discussed having read Revolt Against the Modern World on his stream, and people in his periphery (Kami mainly) have tried reading it too. Naturally they get filtered from it and stop half way through.
In my experience it's actually the opposite, people who do a lot of political reading have a pretty wide spectrum of authors from different ideologies. Aside from Marxists, the only people who read Marx are autistic Nazis, who are also some of the only ones reading Hans-Hermann Hoppe and other fringe stuff. Somewhere in there fits Bronze Age Pervert somehow.
It wouldn't surprise me of most people like him go through the various /pol/ reading lists that are always floating around.p
In my experience it's actually the opposite, people who do a lot of political reading have a pretty wide spectrum of authors from different ideologies. Aside from Marxists, the only people who read Marx are autistic Nazis, who are also some of the only ones reading Hans-Hermann Hoppe and other fringe stuff. Somewhere in there fits Bronze Age Pervert somehow.
It wouldn't surprise me of most people like him go through the various /pol/ reading lists that are always floating around.p
I agree, but there's always some coherence to it. You can trace why they went from Marx to Hoppe to Land or whatever. I have no idea what the fuck Nick is doing.
I agree, but there's always some coherence to it. You can trace why they went from Marx to Hoppe to Land or whatever. I have no idea what the fuck Nick is doing.
Nick poaches bits and pieces of things from smarter but lesser known people on Twitter (Twitter is where it happens these days, not dead gay /pol/), then reads the wiki article of the books cited for a bit more flavor. He's the classic debate club sophist faggot.
Nick poaches bits and pieces of things from smarter but lesser known people on Twitter (Twitter is where it happens these days, not dead gay /pol/), then reads the wiki article of the books cited for a bit more flavor. He's the classic debate club sophist faggot.
My guess for AFPAC II's big guest:
Pat Buchanan, king of the paleocons.
Nick has torn up his relationship with Ann Coulter, it wouldn't be the Trump family after his rant on them(plus Don and Don JR are speaking at CPAC, nobody wants Eric). It could be Tucker Carlson, but I'd heavily doubt that for a ton of reasons.
