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The funny thing is I'm not even disagreeing with anyone, I just understand this is what is happening and there is nothing anyone can do about it so instead of acting like a bitch and crying about the state of the situation I chose to plan ahead and now that I'm in a nice spot I am laughing at all the fags who couldn't take a clue even though it was smack dab on their head over and over for about a years time frame and they still cant clinch it.
 
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Disheveled Human said:
Nobody said that. Experts are concerned about the mutations of this novel virus. You are looking at the current situation and not the potential. Nobody worried at the very start because 99% of the time its a nothing burger and would die out before it caught on; the 1% hit and it spread everywhere. Now we are dodging another 1% which if shit goes south can be dangerous to the point of not worth gambling on.
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This is next tier retarded. Viruses do not mutate into more dangerous forms over time. We aren't living in a Hollywood movie.

Viruses are little balls of RNA or DNA wrapped in a lipid shell, they aren't intelligent and they're not out to kill their host. They have one job, and one job only, to reproduce themselves using the cellular material of the animals or people they infect.

Over time the viral strains that do that most effectively will out produce the rest. The most efficient way for a virus to reproduce is not to make their hosts severely unwell, rather to make them mildly unwell but still functional so they will continue to interact with others and so spread the virus along. Killing the host means the virus dies as well, corpses don't spread the coof. This is why SARS died out after infecting only a few thousand people, it was an actual deadly infection and not a pretend one.

Viral epidemics are severely overrated as agents of ZOMG! the end of humanity! I'm far more worried about antibiotic resistant bacteria than I am about the next Kung Flu. We've enjoyed the benefits of antibiotics for 80 years, the days of dying from a staph infection are a distant memory. The Spanish flu was so deadly not because the flu was directly killing people but because it was knocking people on their asses with secondary bacterial pneumonia and in those days there was no penicillin, which fucking sucked.
 
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Disheveled Human said:
The funny thing is I'm not even disagreeing with anyone, I just understand this is what is happening and there is nothing anyone can do about it so instead of acting like a bitch and crying about the state of the situation I chose to plan ahead and now that I'm in a nice spot I am laughing at all the fags who couldn't take a clue even though it was smack dab on their head over and over for about a years time frame and they still cant clinch it.
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Again you're assuming, like the knob-gobbling leaf you are, that I and others complaining here weren't "prepared" for this.

You sit there and moralise about how everyone else is making it worse for you by wanting and trying to live a normal life, while you're quite happy for your government to fit you up for a gimp suit and a box if it means "the virus will be over sooner!". You want to 100% remove your risk of catching the coof? Kill yourself.
 
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Bosmadden said:
This is next tier retarded. Viruses do not mutate into more dangerous forms over time. We aren't living in a Hollywood movie.

Viruses are little balls of RNA or DNA wrapped in a lipid shell, they aren't intelligent and they're not out to kill their host. They have one job, and one job only, to reproduce themselves using the cellular material of the animals or people they infect.

Over time the viral strains that do that most effectively will out produce the rest. The most efficient way for a virus to reproduce is not to make their hosts severely unwell, rather to make them mildly unwell but still functional so they will continue to interact with others and so spread the virus along. Killing the host means the virus dies as well, corpses don't spread the coof. This is why SARS died out after infecting only a few thousand people, it was an actual deadly infection and not a pretend one.

Viral epidemics are severely overrated as agents of ZOMG! the end of humanity! I'm far more worried about antibiotic resistant bacteria than I am about the next Kung Flu. We've enjoyed the benefits of antibiotics for 80 years, the days of dying from a staph infection are a distant memory. The Spanish flu was so deadly not because the flu was directly killing people but because it was knocking people on their asses with secondary bacterial pneumonia and in those days there was no penicillin, which fucking sucked.
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I will sum it up plain and simple to you clowns. Do nothing, Don't take the experimental bill gates microchip vaccine and become a sweet ass NEET. While you are busy doing that I will take the shot because I am not a bitch and can handle government gene modification and will usurp your position in life and then laugh at you people for years to come. Ether way you are fucked and its because I am retarded enough to understand what is going down and will sell out to the government at your cost.
 
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Disheveled Human said:
I will sum it up plain and simple to you clowns. Do nothing, Don't take the experimental bill gates microchip vaccine and become a sweet ass NEET. While you are busy doing that I will take the shot because I am not a bitch and can handle government gene modification and will usurp your position in life and then laugh at you people for years to come. Ether way you are fucked and its because I am retarded enough to understand what is going down and will sell out to the government at your cost.
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You're spewing out mouth garbage. I have no fucking idea what makes you think I'm against people getting their shots? Go for it, I could give two fucks.

The likeliest outcome from the great vaccine push is a zero. Nothing will happen. You won't get an immunity from Covid but there will be no horrible side effects. What I do know for 100% certainty is that I will personally accrue no benefit from the vaccines as I am not at risk from Covid.

I do hear a lot of fantasizing about how the non vaccinated are going to be shit on, how they'll be denied jobs and won't be able to travel. But again this is nonsense. The idea that the government in any western nation has the organizational ability to demand proof of vaccination for trillions of human interactions is so laughably retarded I can't even. There are particular types of bug people who go through life thinking that if you make up a rule all humans will be made to obey it. I've lived though all these lockdowns and my life has been barely effected. I've been visiting my parents and in-laws, I've been hosting house parties, I've been happily vacationing. Apart from the restaurant closures and no good movies being on I've barely noticed . There are a tiny number of cops compared to the general population and most government officials are lazy and incompetent so as long as you're careful and don't bring attention to yourself you will always have the ability to either skirt or flout rules, which I happily do all the time.
 
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I think people need to be free to make decisions about weither they want to take a vaccine or not. The reality is that there are no long term studies and this is the first time we have tried using mRNA tech in humans.
The idea that if we all just obey and offer our health up to daddy government, in exchange for your life and freedom back is simply not true. The governments fully invested in this pandemic are enjoying the rights they have stripped and will not be giving those back any time soon. It doesn't matter if you are a good little pleb and offer yourself up as a human lab rat or not. Take the risk or not, you are still going to end up a basement dwelling NEET living off Amazon deliveries.
The funny thing is, I am not an anti-vax person and almost did get the Moderna shot when I was offered it. What made me think twice was reading some posts in this very thread and then doing the research myself. I don't think it is full of microchips or any other conspiracy theory. I just became nervous when I saw how the media was glossing over and hiding potential side effects. Then when the same governments pushing this garbage starting talking about how "you still have to social distance and wear 1..no 2.. Masks", I didn't see the point in taking such a risk.
If you were able to talk to residents here and see the distress and suffering brought on by a barely tested vaccine, you might think differently. I have lost a friend and seen two others sent to the hospital for this marvel of modern medicine. For what? The government is not going to let up on restrictions with or without compliance. The so-called experts here in the US still want us to mask up until 2022 now. All for a disease that even with their inflated numbers is barely more lethal than the flu. Take this vaccine if you want. Do any of you truly believe that as soon as we are good boys and just "man up", and line up for injection all of this control and power will be returned? It won't and should not be part of your justification for being willingly experimented on.
 
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Bosmadden said:
Positive PCR tests 52,000, down 84% from peak
Hospitalizations 55.000, down 68% from peak
Fatalities 1200, down 62% from peak

Looking at the graphs we're experiencing an exponential collapse in transmission

Rejoice the pandemic is done. Turns out herd immunity is actually a thing, who would have thought it?
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they're putting those nose swab things through less cycles, that's why the cases are "dropping". Before, they were running these tests through so many cycles that totally healthy people were coming up as positive. This shit is all manipulation at it's fucking finest, and it's maddening.
 
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Bosmadden said:
You're spewing out mouth garbage. I have no fucking idea what makes you think I'm against people getting their shots? Go for it, I could give two fucks.

The likeliest outcome from the great vaccine push is a zero. Nothing will happen. You won't get an immunity from Covid but there will be no horrible side effects. What I do know for 100% certainty is that I will personally accrue no benefit from the vaccines as I am not at risk from Covid.

I do hear a lot of fantasizing about how the non vaccinated are going to be shit on, how they'll be denied jobs and won't be able to travel. But again this is nonsense. The idea that the government in any western nation has the organizational ability to demand proof of vaccination for trillions of human interactions is so laughably retarded I can't even. There are particular types of bug people who go through life thinking that if you make up a rule all humans will be made to obey it. I've lived though all these lockdowns and my life has been barely effected. I've been visiting my parents and in-laws, I've been hosting house parties, I've been happily vacationing. Apart from the restaurant closures and no good movies being on I've barely noticed . There are a tiny number of cops compared to the general population and most government officials are lazy and incompetent so as long as you're careful and don't bring attention to yourself you will always have the ability to either skirt or flout rules, which I happily do all the time.
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Hey bud I aint judging your cope, I think its actually brave. BTW what line of work are you in asking for a friend 😉
 
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SojuDrnkr said:
they're putting those nose swab things through less cycles, that's why the cases are "dropping". Before, they were running these tests through so many cycles that totally healthy people were coming up as positive. This shit is all manipulation at it's fucking finest, and it's maddening.
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It really would be interesting to see some statistics about PCR cycle values next to the amount of positive tests. How many positive tests were basically "there was a viral fragment somewhere", far from being actually infected or infectious?
 
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Bosmadden said:
You don't have any friends? You're not invited to any parties. No girl wants to fuck you?

Covid must have been a God send to you brother.
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You will still have to wear a mask you will still need a vaccine if you want a job thats worth a damn. Honestly this post should make you happy inside because progress is being made and the choice is up to you on what course of action you want to take. Let me put it this way; Even if the virus was just the flu I would advocate for you and your family to take the vaccine just for the lulz.
 
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El Gose said:
Two great minds meet today to lead their great nations into the future.

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Ralph Northam is not yet POTUS although in the hellish event he ever is than I hope he and the Arabian prince to the north can have a blackface-off.
Disheveled Human said:
The funny thing is I'm not even disagreeing with anyone, I just understand this is what is happening and there is nothing anyone can do about it so instead of acting like a bitch and crying about the state of the situation I chose to plan ahead and now that I'm in a nice spot I am laughing at all the fags who couldn't take a clue even though it was smack dab on their head over and over for about a years time frame and they still cant clinch it.
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You can look at the "quarantines and lockdowns" thread here and see posts I made a year ago (!) getting all sorts of negrates for pointing out the facts about how lockdowns weren't needed, facts which had a decent amount of science behind them at the time based on outbreaks on cruise ships. Had a political leader acted on that they'd be considered bold, but bold leadership is what determines the course of history. Only the governor of South Dakota seems to have done that. DeSantis only relented in May when it became blatantly obvious the whole thing was just a bad flu season, right after Georgia governor Kemp in late April who like many Republican governors didn't do anything about idiot governments in cities like Atlanta who inflate death counts and enforce pointless mask mandates unlike DeSantis who seems to have made said ordinances unenforceable.
 
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Meriasek said:
It really would be interesting to see some statistics about PCR cycle values next to the amount of positive tests. How many positive tests were basically "there was a viral fragment somewhere", far from being actually infected or infectious?
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I know that if you're sick they only need to go through 18-22 cycles to pick up an infection. Up until recently, they were running the PCR through 48-54 cycles. So I have to say the false-positive rate was incredibly high, especially since people have been going in to get tested if they sneezed.
 
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SojuDrnkr said:
they're putting those nose swab things through less cycles, that's why the cases are "dropping". Before, they were running these tests through so many cycles that totally healthy people were coming up as positive. This shit is all manipulation at it's fucking finest, and it's maddening.
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All hail president corn pop 🙌!!!
He defeated corona-chan when orange man couldn't!
 
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