Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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This is the most pathetic attempt at a vagina I have ever seen. The surgeon clearly didn’t give a single fuck about his patient or his ’work’.

It’s easy to see why he rated it a 2/5:
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There is literally nothing there. They just extended his ass crack.

Even his fellow trannies are confused as fuck:
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I have no clitoris and I must scream
 
What are surgeons aiming for when making a Neovag? Because it certainly isn’t realism. I swear these butchers surgeons are just incredibly transphobic and want to see how fucked up they can make these people’s genitals before it’s considered a crime against humanity.



They even have their own blog: https://mygenderconfirmation.wordpress.com/blog-2/

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This man’s wife is a fucking straight up liar. How the fuck can she look at her vagina and then look at his amhole and say “yeah, looks great, hun. Just like mine!”... Fuck off you lying bitch.

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There’s literally nothing there. Where‘s the ‘clit’? I thought they at least used the head of the penis as a fake clit? All I see is a literal axe wound.
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If you told me this was some horrifying example of FGM after they cut everything off, I’d believe you.
I'm utterly confused by how some of these procedures were even developed. Sometimes they push it all in and fake the clit, sometimes they cut off the sensitive parts and tuck the mutilated cock in the axe wound of a sack, sometimes they shave off all the flesh and invert the rest...somehow.

Its complete lack of any discernably female anatomy is laughable but it's that desperate "hopefully she touches me down there, fingers crossed" that has me rolling.

One, what sensation "down there" is there to even feel? Two, so much praise from supportive wifey, but despite being seemingly healed, no intimacy and it requires "baby steps" to rework their partner into it. At least they get to experience the truer lesbian experience of a dead bedroom.

Tiny piece of cock head or just whatever fleshy mass they have dangling in the area regardless of its function.

Tbf to them, it's not necessarily wrong to compare the head of the penis to the external portion of the clitoris in some ways, but it's even more confounding to me because they seemingly overwhelmingly fetishize penetration yet (much like "cis" coomers) I don't often see them going off about the importance of meaningful external play when it comes to women outside of pure fetish fantasy. It's always all about jack hammering away or sometimes non-erogenous touching and all the alleged "hours long, full body" "female" orgasms they achieve from it when a lot of women struggle to (or simply can't) rely on that internal stimulation alone to get off. That and women aren't giant erogenous zones that come at any touch either. For some women it simply feels like pressure or not much at all-just like what that troon was complaining about, in an ironic twist.
Clearly many women do enjoy penetration. If they didn’t there wouldn’t be so many one night stand babies out there. Troons don’t realize they’re not going to receive any pleasure from intercourse.
 
This article from The Guardian is five years old now, but still worth a read. A lot must have changed by now. The surgeons sound fairly insane, but I guess that's probably the same these days.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...ent-surgeons-demand-is-going-through-the-roof

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Meet the gender reassignment surgeons: ‘Demand is going through the roof’.​

Under a dozen people in the UK can carry out vaginoplasty or phalloplasty operations – and attracting new talent is tough. Kezia Parkins

The problem, according to Phil Thomas, is this: there are simply not enough people in Britain who know how to make a vagina.
“We need more surgeons,” the urologist said from the private Nuffield hospital in Brighton. “In March I received 24 new referral letters. Multiply that by 12 and you can see what the issue is.
“The volume that we need to do to meet the demand is just going through the roof and NHS England are not keeping up.”
The problem of waiting lists for transgender patients who want genital gender reassignment surgery (GRS) is not just one of growing demand, but of supply. This is niche work. Thomas is one of fewer than a dozen practitioners in the UK. About two-thirds deal with male-to-female surgery – vaginoplasty – and the other third handle the opposite procedure – phalloplasty for trans men.
If we [surgeons] were both on a plane … and something were to happen, there’d be a problem
Most work both privately and on the NHS. One has just gone on maternity leave. Thomas and another colleague, James Bellringer, are due to retire in the next five years. “At this stage if we were both on a plane to go to a meeting abroad and something were to happen, there’d be a problem,” said Thomas.

Thomas calculates that people wait about six months for his services. For Bellringer, waiting times are even longer. His NHS patients in London face waits of more than a year and a half.
Referrals for vaginoplasty surgery have been growing at 20% per year and as of March 2016, 266 trans women were waiting for surgery at Charing Cross, the oldest gender identity clinic in the country.
“One of my patients has been making ‘Bellringer Babe’ badges,” he said with a smile. The badges bear the silhouette of an elegant woman in a ballgown and indicate that the wearer has had male to female gender reassignment surgery (GRS) at the hands of the London-based surgeon.

Bellringer came to vaginoplasty almost by accident, in 2000. He was working at Charing Cross hospital in west London, part of Imperial College NHS trust and the only NHS hospital that performs the surgery in the UK, when Mike Royle, the surgeon who built up the practice for GRS in the UK, announced his retirement.
“I was in the right place at the right time,” said Bellringer. “They needed someone with the technical ability and the right approach with the patients, so they asked me.”
In 2014 Bellringer and Thomas were joined by Tina Rashid, a 34-year-old urologist who is now the only woman performing gender reassignment surgery in the country. “There are not many younger surgeons going into gender reassignment,” said Bellringer. “Tina is our secret weapon. She is down there with the kids.”

James Bellringer, who performs male to female gender reassignment surgery. Photograph: Alicia Canter/The Guardian
Rashid first witnessed vaginoplasty surgery during her training period at Charing Cross, where she was appointed as consultant in 2014. “I knew it would be a missed opportunity not to observe the surgery,” said Rashid. “Wherever I ended up, at some point in my consultant career I would see a handful of patients who had male to female reconstruction. I wanted to understand how to treat them.”

“James and Phil should really be credited for setting up the service in the UK,” she continued. “I see my role as really helping take it forward. They are towards the end of their careers and I am at the beginning of mine.”
But attracting new surgeons into the speciality was, said Rashid, “extremely difficult”. “GRS is a very niche area. A lot of trainees don’t get exposure to it,” she said.
The situation is not likely to improve in the short term. Rashid went on maternity leave in April and expects to be away for the rest of the year. Charing Cross has been training a new surgeon to replace her, but he is not quite ready to operate. There are two others doing a small amount of this work for the NHS elsewhere in the UK, Oliver Fenton and Charles Coker.

In contrast trans men looking to have female to male reassignment surgery are in a better position – those who wish to have genital surgery can expect to receive it within the 18-week referral target.
Estimates from the Charing Cross gender identity clinic suggest that whereas about 60% of all trans women will go on to have genital surgery, only 10-30% of trans men will want phalloplasty – the surgical construction of a penis, which involves four operations and takes a total of 16 hours.
David Ralph, consultant urologist at St Peter’s Andrology Centre in London, and his team treat about four trans patients a week and receive 200 new patients a year.

“There are a lot more male to female trans patients than there are female to male, but saying that it takes four operations to make a penis and only one to make a vagina,” said Ralph. “The main thing that trans men want is to be able to stand to void [urinate]. Secondary to that of course is being able to have sex with their new penis. This really changes their lives.”
The surgeons performing these operations are passionate about what they do and urge more of their colleagues to consider training to be able to do the surgery.
“I think most of my urology peers think I’m mad. Well actually, compared to staring down a laparoscope for four hours removing someone’s prostate this is much more fun,” said Bellringer.
For Rashid, the driving force is being able to help a group of vulnerable patients who are at high risk of depression, anxiety and suicide.
“I have patients say: ‘You have saved my life.’ It is very gratifying and not something that I can quite put into words,” she said.
 
This article from The Guardian is five years old now, but still worth a read. A lot must have changed by now. The surgeons sound fairly insane, but I guess that's probably the same these days.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...ent-surgeons-demand-is-going-through-the-roof

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Meet the gender reassignment surgeons: ‘Demand is going through the roof’.​

Under a dozen people in the UK can carry out vaginoplasty or phalloplasty operations – and attracting new talent is tough. Kezia Parkins

The problem, according to Phil Thomas, is this: there are simply not enough people in Britain who know how to make a vagina.
“We need more surgeons,” the urologist said from the private Nuffield hospital in Brighton. “In March I received 24 new referral letters. Multiply that by 12 and you can see what the issue is.
“The volume that we need to do to meet the demand is just going through the roof and NHS England are not keeping up.”
The problem of waiting lists for transgender patients who want genital gender reassignment surgery (GRS) is not just one of growing demand, but of supply. This is niche work. Thomas is one of fewer than a dozen practitioners in the UK. About two-thirds deal with male-to-female surgery – vaginoplasty – and the other third handle the opposite procedure – phalloplasty for trans men.
If we [surgeons] were both on a plane … and something were to happen, there’d be a problem
Most work both privately and on the NHS. One has just gone on maternity leave. Thomas and another colleague, James Bellringer, are due to retire in the next five years. “At this stage if we were both on a plane to go to a meeting abroad and something were to happen, there’d be a problem,” said Thomas.

Thomas calculates that people wait about six months for his services. For Bellringer, waiting times are even longer. His NHS patients in London face waits of more than a year and a half.
Referrals for vaginoplasty surgery have been growing at 20% per year and as of March 2016, 266 trans women were waiting for surgery at Charing Cross, the oldest gender identity clinic in the country.
“One of my patients has been making ‘Bellringer Babe’ badges,” he said with a smile. The badges bear the silhouette of an elegant woman in a ballgown and indicate that the wearer has had male to female gender reassignment surgery (GRS) at the hands of the London-based surgeon.

Bellringer came to vaginoplasty almost by accident, in 2000. He was working at Charing Cross hospital in west London, part of Imperial College NHS trust and the only NHS hospital that performs the surgery in the UK, when Mike Royle, the surgeon who built up the practice for GRS in the UK, announced his retirement.
“I was in the right place at the right time,” said Bellringer. “They needed someone with the technical ability and the right approach with the patients, so they asked me.”
In 2014 Bellringer and Thomas were joined by Tina Rashid, a 34-year-old urologist who is now the only woman performing gender reassignment surgery in the country. “There are not many younger surgeons going into gender reassignment,” said Bellringer. “Tina is our secret weapon. She is down there with the kids.”

James Bellringer, who performs male to female gender reassignment surgery. Photograph: Alicia Canter/The Guardian
Rashid first witnessed vaginoplasty surgery during her training period at Charing Cross, where she was appointed as consultant in 2014. “I knew it would be a missed opportunity not to observe the surgery,” said Rashid. “Wherever I ended up, at some point in my consultant career I would see a handful of patients who had male to female reconstruction. I wanted to understand how to treat them.”

“James and Phil should really be credited for setting up the service in the UK,” she continued. “I see my role as really helping take it forward. They are towards the end of their careers and I am at the beginning of mine.”
But attracting new surgeons into the speciality was, said Rashid, “extremely difficult”. “GRS is a very niche area. A lot of trainees don’t get exposure to it,” she said.
The situation is not likely to improve in the short term. Rashid went on maternity leave in April and expects to be away for the rest of the year. Charing Cross has been training a new surgeon to replace her, but he is not quite ready to operate. There are two others doing a small amount of this work for the NHS elsewhere in the UK, Oliver Fenton and Charles Coker.

In contrast trans men looking to have female to male reassignment surgery are in a better position – those who wish to have genital surgery can expect to receive it within the 18-week referral target.
Estimates from the Charing Cross gender identity clinic suggest that whereas about 60% of all trans women will go on to have genital surgery, only 10-30% of trans men will want phalloplasty – the surgical construction of a penis, which involves four operations and takes a total of 16 hours.
David Ralph, consultant urologist at St Peter’s Andrology Centre in London, and his team treat about four trans patients a week and receive 200 new patients a year.

“There are a lot more male to female trans patients than there are female to male, but saying that it takes four operations to make a penis and only one to make a vagina,” said Ralph. “The main thing that trans men want is to be able to stand to void [urinate]. Secondary to that of course is being able to have sex with their new penis. This really changes their lives.”
The surgeons performing these operations are passionate about what they do and urge more of their colleagues to consider training to be able to do the surgery.
“I think most of my urology peers think I’m mad. Well actually, compared to staring down a laparoscope for four hours removing someone’s prostate this is much more fun,” said Bellringer.
For Rashid, the driving force is being able to help a group of vulnerable patients who are at high risk of depression, anxiety and suicide.
“I have patients say: ‘You have saved my life.’ It is very gratifying and not something that I can quite put into words,” she said.
oh those poor imbeciles
 
Sorry Lobster. There are simply too many of those ftm phallo-fuck-up pics online. Can't remember what I typed in to find it.

Well, I managed to find more of that knife sheath, though there is not a single pic after it's all healed in the article.

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Apparently it's work of the serbian butcher Miroslav L. Djordjevic and it's an "original technique of neophalloplasty/metoidioplasty, based on the repair of most severe forms of hypospadias with goal to improve results of urethral reconstruction and minimize complication rate in one stage repair".

There are some interesting stats of what procedures the patients they've had in a span of ten years got in the article.



Some unrelated scribbles I found when I was looking for Djordjevic's neophalluses:
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Trooning out and srs multilation is a choice. She doesn't have to do any of these things. She even knows that she can't turn into a man. But for severe mentally ill people it's hard to escape trans ideology. She probably will get all the surgeries & then 41% herself which is tragic.
 
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Well, I managed to find more of that knife sheath, though there is not a single pic after it's all healed in the article.


Apparently it's work of the serbian butcher Miroslav L. Djordjevic and it's an "original technique of neophalloplasty/metoidioplasty, based on the repair of most severe forms of hypospadias with goal to improve results of urethral reconstruction and minimize complication rate in one stage repair".

There are some interesting stats of what procedures the patients they've had in a span of ten years got in the article.



Some unrelated scribbles I found when I was looking for Djordjevic's neophalluses:
Nice find. I don't even know what to say about those pictures though. Maybe when troons have nightmares, they dream about Miroslav the Serbian Butcher. They should anyway, cause this is deranged. Got his own Wikipedia page, and apparently he does de-transitioners as well.
 
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Just caught up on the thread and didnt see this absolute beauty of a boob job


Excuse the screenshots im literally a retard

Homeboy looks like a bara anime protag

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I thought we were beyond fucking up boob jobs that badly, but apparently I was wrong. Enjoy your giant pecs, I guess.

I know we've discussed the topic of tranny surgeons' certification and training before in the context of the Belgian surgeon, but I am truly curious how these people ever managed to get a degree, and even multiple degrees. Of course we can argue that they stopped caring and they're just lazy now, but I can't imagine that these people once had actual proper surgical skills. You don't just lose -all- of that, do you? I have friends who studied medicine and even one who did a traineeship in plastic surgery, and they had to work really hard, and you really have to take pride in your work to keep going under the pressure and long hours. But these tranny surgeons just threw all of that away? Do any medkiwi's have an opinion on this?
 
Just caught up on the thread and didnt see this absolute beauty of a boob job

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Excuse the screenshots im literally a retard


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Oh god, it's more mitosis boobs. That skin flap...

It's twice as creepy on a male frame, and it's already pretty fucking creepy on a female frame.

I thought we were beyond fucking up boob jobs that badly, but apparently I was wrong. Enjoy your giant pecs, I guess.

I know we've discussed the topic of tranny surgeons' certification and training before in the context of the Belgian surgeon, but I am truly curious how these people ever managed to get a degree, and even multiple degrees. Of course we can argue that they stopped caring and they're just lazy now, but I can't imagine that these people once had actual proper surgical skills. You don't just lose -all- of that, do you? I have friends who studied medicine and even one who did a traineeship in plastic surgery, and they had to work really hard, and you really have to take pride in your work to keep going under the pressure and long hours. But these tranny surgeons just threw all of that away? Do any medkiwi's have an opinion on this?

It's literally the old joke, "what do you call the guy who graduated last in his medical class? Doctor."

Plus since most of this shit is experimental it's damn near impossible to prove malpractice, unless they actually left tools inside the body.
 
Just hit a very horrific jackpot: https://www.reddit.com/r/TransSurgeriesWiki/wiki/srs/usa#wiki_kathy_lynn_rumer

r/Transgender_Surgeries have there own wiki for every known tranny butcher out there. Including the infamous Dr Rumer:

Kathy Lynn Rumer​

Surgeons sites
Photo links

transbucket
reddit
realself
  • My MTF SRS Journey by AngelEyess in 2020 - "As I’ve previously reported I’m very unhappy with my Vagina (if I can even call it that) it doesn’t look remotely like one in my opinion."
  • Worst surgeon ever by keykeybaker in 2018
Hannah Simpson
Non-photo links

Kathy Rumer is a D.O. (Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine) rather than an M.D. (Doctor of Medicine). I'm not entirely sure what this means but found a 2012 article on USNews, and some posts in the professional medical subs on reddit
YouTube
reddit
Susans
realself
tgboards
Malpractice Lawsuit by Nicole Coley
Malpractice Lawsuit by Audrina Minto
Malpractice Lawsuit by Roxanne Thomson
Malpractice Lawsuit by Crystal Valentino
tumblr
Autobiography "It Never Goes Away: Gender Transition at a Mature Age" by Anne Lauren Koch. You can read some of the relevant parts of this book on books.google.com
Jezebel
Transcript from CNN
Papers

There is a load of links, images, stories, lawsuits etc for every surgeon. I tried to copy and paste the entire wiki but it was over the character limit.
 
The thing that gets me about all of these obviously botched procedures is the patients really have no recourse. If a surgeon royally fucks up a knee replacement or some other surgery, it's possible for the patient to bring a malpractice suit. They can have another surgeon fix or at least mitigate the damaged from the failed procedure. Other surgeries have standards, tried and true methods, and checklists to go by.

These experimental surgeons refuse to revise each other's work. They make patients sign NDAs. There's no way to bring a malpractice suit if there's no agreed standard of care. It's complete insanity that these kinds of terrible results are celebrated as brave and beautiful.
 
The thing that gets me about all of these obviously botched procedures is the patients really have no recourse. If a surgeon royally fucks up a knee replacement or some other surgery, it's possible for the patient to bring a malpractice suit. They can have another surgeon fix or at least mitigate the damaged from the failed procedure. Other surgeries have standards, tried and true methods, and checklists to go by.

These experimental surgeons refuse to revise each other's work. They make patients sign NDAs. There's no way to bring a malpractice suit if there's no agreed standard of care. It's complete insanity that these kinds of terrible results are celebrated as brave and beautiful.
They're only celebrated because otherwise they'd have to admit they can't change sexes.
 
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