Social Justice Warriors - Now With Less Feminism Sperging

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TerribleIdeas™ said:
It's the exact same as when Jessica Price was somehow shocked that she was let go from ArenaNet, as though any company is going to give someone like this an iota of warning, because the company knows this is exactly the kind of person that will fabricate a labour complaint, or a sexual misconduct/harassment allegation.
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Like, just in general, I know plenty of people when a company is starting to go under that are told that their job is safe, and then get fired literally that afternoon.

Companies want to keep you as long as they can before they fire you on their terms and walk you quietly out the door so you don't make a scene.

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Did I miss yet another nothingburger of allegations?
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I forget the exact number, and these surveys are always full of loaded questions anyway, but something like 10-20% of women said that merely talking to them without their permission counts as sexual harrassment.

Now combine this with Twitter hugboxes were you get brownie points for being a victim.
 
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Salubrious said:
Companies want to keep you as long as they can before they fire you on their terms and walk you quietly out the door so you don't make a scene.
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When we live in this age when firing someone with a justifiable cause is a very tangible threat of a lawsuit coming your way by some hypersensitive retard, no wonder companies just want to fire people on their terms in the most silent way possible. This is why companies keep departments that barely matter for shit populated by dangerous people that they cannot fire. They literally are stuck with those or they will be involved in several lawsuits over discrimination or harassment.
Salubrious said:
I forget the exact number, and these surveys are always full of loaded questions anyway, but something like 10-20% of women said that merely talking to them without their permission counts as sexual harrassment.
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That is a huge load of bullshit, but those surveys also have more inane questions like if getting oogled also counted as sexual harassment. Dunno why these are still taken seriously after so long seeing how much of the questions are bullshit and they tend to trivialize rape and sexual harassment.
 
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Malagor the dank omen said:
That is a huge load of bullshit, but those surveys also have more inane questions like if getting oogled also counted as sexual harassment. Dunno why these are still taken seriously after so long seeing how much of the questions are bullshit and they tend to trivialize rape and sexual harassment.
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I found a "report" that said that 80% of women between 18-25 have experienced sexual harassment.

So yeah, they just keep setting the standard lower and lower.

www.onlinemswprograms.com

Resources to Guide Discussions About Consent, Sexual Harassment and Misconduct

Learn how to lead conversations with adolescents and teens about preventing and reporting sexual assault.
www.onlinemswprograms.com www.onlinemswprograms.com
 
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Salubrious said:
I found a "report" that said that 80% of women between 18-25 have experienced sexual harassment.

So yeah, they just keep setting the standard lower and lower.

www.onlinemswprograms.com

Resources to Guide Discussions About Consent, Sexual Harassment and Misconduct

Learn how to lead conversations with adolescents and teens about preventing and reporting sexual assault.
www.onlinemswprograms.com www.onlinemswprograms.com
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How much you wanna bet that most of those women qualify sexual harassment as "Some guy looked at me".
Because as far as i know, being looked at is not harassment. This shit really brings back the "Lifeguard that saved me from drowning raped me because he touched me without my consent" story. No wonder any self respecting man should be on his guard and ready to enact the Pence doctrine on any deranged woman.
 
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Malagor the dank omen said:
How much you wanna bet that most of those women qualify sexual harassment as "Some guy looked at me".
Because as far as i know, being looked at is not harassment. This shit really brings back the "Lifeguard that saved me from drowning raped me because he touched me without my consent" story. No wonder any self respecting man should be on his guard and ready to enact the Pence doctrine on any deranged woman.
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Just another article I found at the time of my search that I found. The article means nothing, but this sentence caught my eye.


Because as a woman living in the City, I get harassed every single day and the way he approached me gave me zero indication that he was any different than any other guy that might come up to me for less legitimate reasons.

Basically, she wanted to "teach men the correct way to approach women" because she gets harassed literally every day.

As men, it is your responsibility to know that. It is your responsibility to chose not to contribute to it, and not to emulate it in a way that triggers a woman’s defenses. And knowing how to approach a woman for a legitimate reason is part of that.

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The problem is, that if you mimic behaviors of men who do those things, we have no way of knowing that you’re any different. But I wasn’t told any of these things, you might be saying. No, you probably weren’t, because we live in the type of society that tells women not to get raped instead of teaching men not to rape them.

The usual crazy feminist "all men are monsters and you aren't allowed to 'be defensive'" talk.
 
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Salubrious said:
Just another article I found at the time of my search that I found. The article means nothing, but this sentence caught my eye.


Because as a woman living in the City, I get harassed every single day and the way he approached me gave me zero indication that he was any different than any other guy that might come up to me for less legitimate reasons.

Basically, she wanted to "teach men the correct way to approach women" because she gets harassed literally every day.

As men, it is your responsibility to know that. It is your responsibility to chose not to contribute to it, and not to emulate it in a way that triggers a woman’s defenses. And knowing how to approach a woman for a legitimate reason is part of that.

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The problem is, that if you mimic behaviors of men who do those things, we have no way of knowing that you’re any different. But I wasn’t told any of these things, you might be saying. No, you probably weren’t, because we live in the type of society that tells women not to get raped instead of teaching men not to rape them.

The usual crazy feminist "all men are monsters and you aren't allowed to 'be defensive'" talk.
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And then crazy feminists want men to be proactive and approach them first. It would be easier if you didn't had the power to ruin the life or a random guy just because of a percieved offense.
 
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Malagor the dank omen said:
And then crazy feminists want men to be proactive and approach them first. It would be easier if you didn't had the power to ruin the life or a random guy just because of a percieved offense.
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That's why they also set up the narrative that "men aren't allowed to be cautious of women for fear of accusations."

So they set up the narrative that an accusation is enough to destroy a career AND men are evil for trying to avoid accusations in the first place.


Of those that did change their behavior, some responses show an unrealistic overreaction to the issue of harassment prevention, such as:

  • “Don’t talk to women.”
  • “[Avoid] any indirect or direct contact with others, any conversation one-on-one, asking permission to enter into 3-foot personal space and NEVER closer than 3 foot of another.”
  • Not asking an employee to get lunch.
  • No communication or contact with employees after business hours.
  • No working after hours for groups smaller than three and a manager must be present.

Unrealistic rules and overreaction can cause backlash and make the problem worse because they move away from the real issue and can blame people who raise complaints. Other disappointing comments included:

  • “Women are claiming anything at all. No due diligence and convicted before trial.”
  • “People are looking to nail you for sexual harassment because it is a great excuse when they are not performing.”

And in fairness, it's not just men. They are trying to get Rosario Dawson cancelled from Star Wars too for being a transphobe. What's the evidence? Someone made a claim three years ago that was immediately dismissed. But that's all it takes now. There's no actual evidence of anything she's ever said. Just a random second hand accusation and it's just a fact now.
 
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Salubrious said:
That's why they also set up the narrative that "men aren't allowed to be cautious of women for fear of accusations."

So they set up the narrative that an accusation is enough to destroy a career AND men are evil for trying to avoid accusations in the first place.


Of those that did change their behavior, some responses show an unrealistic overreaction to the issue of harassment prevention, such as:

  • “Don’t talk to women.”
  • “[Avoid] any indirect or direct contact with others, any conversation one-on-one, asking permission to enter into 3-foot personal space and NEVER closer than 3 foot of another.”
  • Not asking an employee to get lunch.
  • No communication or contact with employees after business hours.
  • No working after hours for groups smaller than three and a manager must be present.

Unrealistic rules and overreaction can cause backlash and make the problem worse because they move away from the real issue and can blame people who raise complaints. Other disappointing comments included:

  • “Women are claiming anything at all. No due diligence and convicted before trial.”
  • “People are looking to nail you for sexual harassment because it is a great excuse when they are not performing.”

And in fairness, it's not just men. They are trying to get Rosario Dawson cancelled from Star Wars too for being a transphobe. What's the evidence? Someone made a claim three years ago that was immediately dismissed. But that's all it takes now. There's no actual evidence of anything she's ever said. Just a random second hand accusation and it's just a fact now.
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* Don't be alone in a room with a woman at any time for any reason no matter what. If you absolutely have to, leave the room and seek an HR chaperone. At the very least, leave the door open and secretly record the meeting.
 
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HTTP Error 404 said:
Don't be alone in a room with a woman at any time for any reason no matter what. If you absolutely have to, leave the room and seek an HR chaperone. At the very least, leave the door open and secretly record the meeting.
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This crap is why i've mastered the art of secretly putting my phone on record. Don't care, it can save my ass and it's better to be safe than sorry in current day.
 
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Malagor the dank omen said:
This is why companies keep departments that barely matter for shit populated by dangerous people that they cannot fire.
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Or if the company has even a single testicle split apart between all the directors of the board, they put all the scumbags in a single department that doesn't matter. Then they get rid of that department.
 
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Then they get rid of that department.
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Like i said before, sometimes they cannot get rid of the department. If they are lucky, they go to another building and not bother anyone, but usually they can't get rid of this dead weight or else they will get swamped with a crapload of lawsuits over harassment and discrimination.

Even a friend of mine told me stories about people who get a job through a lawsuit because the company might as well take some dead weight rather than go through legal litigation.
 
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