TGWTG Nostalgia Chick / Lindsay Ellis / TheDudette - aka Hotdogs in face girl

[Random Internet Person]

I didn't think Norman Bates dressing up as his mother to do the killings was related to trans, anyway. Did they miss the part where even the doctor clearly stated it wasn't? So why use a thumbnail from Psycho?

Clicks, and trying to look like an intellectual.

 

[illhavetwo]

Contrapoints collaboration, Jenny Nicholson voiceovers, merch shilling, and a stale topic? What more could we ask for in a Lindsay shitpost!

I'm not familiar with Ellis and I only watched a few snippets from this video but something about this video really bothered me and it finally clicked when saw that "Joanne weaponizes her own trauma to oppress an already vulnerable group ". Her presentation is dated as fuck. That line is pure Livejournal 2004. First of all, no one under 30 use those smileys. Second, putting a passive aggressive smiley at the end of a sentence was considered gauche even in 2004. Third, the myspace angle, eyeliner and lipstick combo. Fourth, the "snark" culture where you try to sound effortlessly witty and mocking when it's obvious you carefully constructed your insults. Grow the fuck up, Lindsay.

 

[Calculus]

I didn't think Norman Bates dressing up as his mother to do the killings was related to trans, anyway. Did they miss the part where even the doctor clearly stated it wasn't? So why use a thumbnail from Psycho?

It's part of her (and others') way of explaining "transphobia". They take something similar but not the same and explain it how it is wrong, The problem is, they never argue against the actual issues of "transphobia". Her audience is just given a pat on the back about how right they are and how dumb "transphobes" are.

Saying that, this video does raise the usually ignored point of Karen White, though only uses it as a segway into trans people are more vulnerable in prison and not the obvious conclusion that they don't belong in women's prisons.

 

[Polexia Aphrodisia]

If trans women were fine being just called "women" then that would be one thing.

But trans people increasingly insist on being recognized and celebrated as ~**trans**~. It's like a whole other gender. So no, you don't get all the privileges of women and women-only spaces, because you don't call yourself a woman - you call yourself a TRANSWOMAN.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I'm not familiar with Ellis and I only watched a few snippets from this video but something about this video really bothered me and it finally clicked when saw that "Joanne weaponizes her own trauma to oppress an already vulnerable group ". Her presentation is dated as fuck. That line is pure Livejournal 2004. First of all, no one under 30 use those smileys. Second, putting a passive aggressive smiley at the end of a sentence was considered gauche even in 2004. Third, the myspace angle, eyeliner and lipstick combo. Fourth, the "snark" culture where you try to sound effortlessly witty and mocking when it's obvious you carefully constructed your insults. Grow the fuck up, Lindsay.

That’s just how her intellectual circle rolls.

 

[Laughingjoke2]

Ellis is a complete dunce and I’m only ten mins in to this abortion of a video.
Accusing TERFs of straw man arguments while complaining Rowling doesn’t want trannies in the ladies’ room cos transphobia. Lindsay, it’s cos any fucking pervert can then call themselves a tranny, you fucking rampant alcoholic.

Christ there are YouTubers who are now calling themselves "Trans Lesbians" and "Trans and Pansexual" just to gain woke victimhood points since they're in reality CIS White Males and damn it they want to be part of the pity party. So time to claim trans status while letting their hair grow or buy a wig if balding and in both cases color the hair to pink or purple to say "Hey I'm cute playful girl of 20 when they're a sad soy 40 something year old dude".

An if you say anything you're transphobic.

Well I'll give them a little credit they put more effort into it than those who claim Bisexuality or Pansexuality while live completely hetro lives.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

Well I'll give them a little credit they put more effort into it than those who claim Bisexuality or Pansexuality while live completely hetro lives.

Is it sad that Lily Singh was the first one that popped into my head when I read this?

 

[Water-T]

In the beginning, Hontra opens by talking about Psycho and how it's apparently troonphobic, which has got to be the most retarded possible take. The idea is that Norman Bates has a dissociative second identity where he literally believes that he's his mom, and if that makes him a troon, well, that's a decidedly troonphobic definition of one.

Precisely. Any idiot that actually watched Psycho would understand that Bates dealt with his mother's death by developing a DID with her as his secondary personality. He didn't dress up because of gender dysphoria - Norman did it because HE LITERALLY BELIEVED HE WAS HIS DEAD MOTHER.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Precisely. Any idiot that actually watched Psycho would understand that Bates dealt with his mother's death by developing a DID with her as his secondary personality. He didn't dress up because of gender dysphoria - Norman did it because HE LITERALLY BELIEVED HE WAS HIS DEAD MOTHER.

How do you miss the point that badly? It’s not like it’s one big mind screw. I mean, it’s rather simple, or at least it makes sense if you pay attention, which is Hitchcock’s MO, isn’t it?

 

[RumblyTumbly]

How do you miss the point that badly? It’s not like it’s one big mind screw. I mean, it’s rather simple, or at least it makes sense if you pay attention, which is Hitchcock’s MO, isn’t it?

Not only that, but the movie directly states it. Its not even open to interpretation. That is literally what happened from what is presented in the film.

 

[Call Me Mellow Yellow]

The trans community could enjoy the same level of acceptance in society that all the other letters in the LGBTQ alphabet enjoy, but they have gone about their "fight" all wrong.

By making an enemy of JK Rowling and labeling her transphobic, these woke fools don't realize how much damage they're causing themselves.

I've read JK's posts. JK is not opposed to trans people. She has stated that their identities are valid. She's very progressive. She's basically over here saying, "I support trans people but I am concerned about children being pressured to transition and male perverts masquerading as trans women having free access to women's changing rooms and bathrooms."

Those concerns are reasonable, and they are shared by many. A child cannot consent to such a life-changing decision as SRS. A person that has taken no initiative to change their appearance or body to align with the opposite gender should not have access to a women's bathroom or dressing room.

These are concerns that the trans community should acknowledge but instead they are quick to label anyone that questions them as transphobic.

It's when feelings trump reason.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

I've read JK's posts. JK is not opposed to trans people. She has stated that their identities are valid. She's very progressive. She's basically over here saying, "I support trans people but I am concerned about children being pressured to transition and male perverts masquerading as trans women having free access to women's changing rooms and bathrooms."

Its funny but I've brought those same things up and all I get is the transphobe label thrown at me for it.

First of all, I have never once been given a good reason to encourage kids transitioning genders. Doing all of that stuff to a child before puberty seems like it would do a lot of medical harm to the child. Also, I don't know if you've ever talked to a child, but they have wild imaginations and just say shit that comes to mind, and their likes and dislikes can change without prompting, but its also easy to coerce them and get them to say whatever you want them to say. And teenagers will do anything for attention or rebellion, and that informs a lot of their bad decisions too. The people least capable of making the informed decision for gender transition are young kids and minors. If my kid ever said they wanted to transition, my immediate response would be "Come back to me when you're an adult and paying your own bills, then we'll talk".

Remember that episode of King of the Hill where Bobby got into that Christian rock group that tried to present Christianity as "cool" and "rocking"? Not only did it give us one of my favorite Hank Hill quotes ("Don't you see, you aren't making Christianity better. You're just making Rock and Roll worse") but also one of his best lessons. At the end, he showed Bobby pictures of him in Ninja Turtles costumes, and his old digital pet that he hasn't played with in years, basically demonstrating that fads come and go and Hank wrapped it up by saying "I don't want The Lord to wind up in this box". Well, replace "The Lord" with "your genitals" and that's pretty much how I feel about kids transitioning. The major difference is that, yes, fads and hobbies come and go and you can just throw that stuff in a trash bin with no permanent harm done...but you can't get your penis back.

And the whole perverts in the bathroom thing, this is where I really got hit hard with the transphobe rant. "Oh, so you think all trans people are perverts?!". And my response was "No I don't, but do I think that a pervert would take advantage of this, call himself trans to get access to a women's bathroom, and then rape a woman? Yeah, I do". They just want to implement this across the board and not expect us to ask any questions or bring up these concerns, which is really a confusing message after living through the whole #MeToo thing.

Again, these are reasonable concerns and questions that should be answered, but people like us and JK just get called names and told to shut up.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

A lot of JK being labelled as a transphobe seems to be based on the deliberate misinformation the trans community tries to put forward to make themselves more accepted. One of the biggest being that "Puberty blockers and hormone therapy are completely reversible." By saying children can't consent to such a life altering decision, she's going against the narrative that they want, which makes her an enemy. So they ignore the fact that she's supported left wing organisations all her life. Or the fact that she was one of the few billionaires who lost her status because she gave so much of her wealth to charity. No, she's an awful Tory who needs to be set alight.

 

[CWCissey]

No, she's an awful Tory who needs to be set alight.

Funny thing is, JK is a staunch Labourite.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Not only that, but the movie directly states it. Its not even open to interpretation. That is literally what happened from what is presented in the film.

Well...that's worse than I thought. For someone that paints themselves as an intellectual, you'd think Lindsay Ellis would know her shit when it comes to Alfred Hitchcock.

The trans community could enjoy the same level of acceptance in society that all the other letters in the LGBTQ alphabet enjoy, but they have gone about their "fight" all wrong.

By making an enemy of JK Rowling and labeling her transphobic, these woke fools don't realize how much damage they're causing themselves.

I've read JK's posts. JK is not opposed to trans people. She has stated that their identities are valid. She's very progressive. She's basically over here saying, "I support trans people but I am concerned about children being pressured to transition and male perverts masquerading as trans women having free access to women's changing rooms and bathrooms."

Those concerns are reasonable, and they are shared by many. A child cannot consent to such a life-changing decision as SRS. A person that has taken no initiative to change their appearance or body to align with the opposite gender should not have access to a women's bathroom or dressing room.

These are concerns that the trans community should acknowledge but instead they are quick to label anyone that questions them as transphobic.

It's when feelings trump reason.

Its funny but I've brought those same things up and all I get is the transphobe label thrown at me for it.

First of all, I have never once been given a good reason to encourage kids transitioning genders. Doing all of that stuff to a child before puberty seems like it would do a lot of medical harm to the child. Also, I don't know if you've ever talked to a child, but they have wild imaginations and just say shit that comes to mind, and their likes and dislikes can change without prompting, but its also easy to coerce them and get them to say whatever you want them to say. And teenagers will do anything for attention or rebellion, and that in forms a lot of their bad decisions too. The people least capable of making the informed decision for gender transition are young kids and minors. If my kid ever said they wanted to transition, my immediate response would be "Come back to me when you're an adult and paying your own bills, then we'll talk".

Remember that episode of King of the Hill where Bobby got into that Christian rock group that tried to present Christianity as "cool" and "rocking"? Not only did it give us one of my favorite Hank Hill quotes ("Don't you see, you aren't making Christianity better. You're just making Rock and Roll worse") but also one of his best lessons. At the end, he showed Bobby pictures of him in Ninja Turtles costumes, and his old digital pet that he hasn't played with in years, basically demonstrating that fads come and go and Hank wrapped it up by saying "I don't want The Lord to wind up in this box". Well, replace "The Lord" with "your genitals" and that's pretty much how I feel about kids transitioning. The major difference is that, yes, fads and hobbies come and go and you can just throw that stuff in a trash bin with no permanent harm done...but you can't get your penis back.

And the whole perverts in the bathroom thing, this is where I really got hit hard with the transphobe rant. "Oh, so you think all trans people are perverts?!". And my response was "No I don't, but do I think that a pervert would take advantage of this, call himself trans to get access to a women's bathroom, and then rape a woman? Yeah, I do". They just want to implement this across the board and not expect us to ask any questions or bring up these concerns, which is really a confusing message after living through the whole #MeToo thing.

Again, these are reasonable concerns and questions that should be answered, but people like us and JK just get called names and told to shut up.

Don't forget the part where MtF trans people get into women's sports, but I haven't heard about FtM trans people get into men's sports, nor have I heard a word about someone trying to make a league/organization where trans people compete against each other, along with the movie Tootsie. I'm pretty sure most people will be fine with people being free to do things like grow their hair out or paint their nails if they want to, or not "dress according to gender norms", and only allow medical procedures to happen if there's a documented diagnosis of gender dysphoria, but the fact the progressives are pushing so hard to create their utopia now that Trump has been replaced by a Democrat in the office, there's a chance they could breed a sense of resentment among their enemies that could result in restrictions up to the closest they can get to the time where homosexuality was treated as a mental illness.

A lot of JK being labelled as a transphobe seems to be based on the deliberate misinformation the trans community tries to put forward to make themselves more accepted. One of the biggest being that "Puberty blockers and hormone therapy are completely reversible." By saying children can't consent to such a life altering decision, she's going against the narrative that they want, which makes her an enemy. So they ignore the fact that she's supported left wing organisations all her life. Or the fact that she was one of the few billionaires who lost her status because she gave so much of her wealth to charity. No, she's an awful Tory who needs to be set alight.

Funny thing is, JK is a staunch Labourite.

Doesn't matter for the woke circuit. Progressivism is like a religion where you have to constantly fight for the utopia, the ideals are laid clear, and the god is...progressivism itself apparently if they're not the type where the state is supreme like most authoritarian regimes.

Edit: and they'll still see their progressive fight through the lens of Harry Potter.

 

[keke]

Funny thing is, JK is a staunch Labourite.

JK was one of the people who genuinely thought that pewdiepie guy was a Nazi, and spreading that ideology to kids. The left eat their own.

Also, haven’t read this thread in a while. I see she’s done the internet feminist full-circle where she’s back to despising and revelling in the harassment of actual feminists that reject the Troon. We need a name for this specific phenomenon

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

It's part of her (and others') way of explaining "transphobia". They take something similar but not the same and explain it how it is wrong, The problem this, they never argue against the actual issues of "transphobia". Her audience is just given a pat on the back about how right they are and how dumb "transphobes" are.

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Saying that, this video does raise the usually ignored point of Karen White, though only uses it as a segway into trans people are more vulnerable in prison and not the obvious conclusion that they don't belong in women's prisons.

For a person who studied film in college, she sure is bad at analyzing simple details in films. She definitely is the type to argue that way. Misleading details in films to own the transphobes.

 

[PeriodicTrouble]

For a person who studied film in college, she sure is bad at analyzing simple details in films. She definitely is the type to argue that way. Misleading details in films to own the transphobes.

It's because she's a propagandist that is willing to lie to people to help her ideology. One example is the video on Borat 2 where she bashes people for saying it's political propgranda then the next thing she does is compare Borat 2 to Fahrenheit 9/11, A Michael Moore Documentary.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

A lot of JK being labelled as a transphobe seems to be based on the deliberate misinformation the trans community tries to put forward to make themselves more accepted. One of the biggest being that "Puberty blockers and hormone therapy are completely reversible." By saying children can't consent to such a life altering decision, she's going against the narrative that they want, which makes her an enemy. So they ignore the fact that she's supported left wing organisations all her life. Or the fact that she was one of the few billionaires who lost her status because she gave so much of her wealth to charity. No, she's an awful Tory who needs to be set alight.

They're not old enough to drink or smoke (in the US anyhow) but somehow they're old enough to choose to get their bodies messed up on puberty blockers.

It's because she's a propagandist that is willing to lie to people to help her ideology. One example is the video on Borat 2 where she bashes people for saying it's political propgranda then the next thing she does is compare Borat 2 to Fahrenheit 9/11, A Michael Moore Documentary.

Ah, yes, Fahrenheit 9/11 the comedy.

 

[Emperor Julian]

Something I've become increasingly aware off is how none of these people have any relavent experiance or qualifications to present themselves as an authority.