Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I've long theorized that the "sources" that are telling channels like Nerdrotic, Doomcuck, and Midnight's Edge that there's a feud between the factions at Lucasfilm are employees of Disney or Lucas that are trying to generate buzz for what are honestly extremely mediocre material (yes, that includes Mandalorian. Only in a post TLJ world is that show considered good.) Any attention, even hateful attention, is better than what I wish most of the fandom did, which to forget about Star Wars and discovery of new or even old properties that are even a damn. Don't hold a candle for Star Wars. It's dead. It's been dead for years and things like that Chinese novel are only people peeing on its grave.

The opposite of love is not hate. The opposite of love is indifference.

This was one prominent Marvel editor's express opinion. I'd believe it.

The direct-to-video animated material seems to be doing just fine for DC and WB. Seems to be the only saving grace for them.
It does okay in sales. As to quality, it varies tremendously.

A former writer for Superman & Lois wanted to race swap Jonathan and Martha Kent.

It was apparently a single bad apple. Nadria Tucker. Self described on her Twat account as "Writer. SJW. Chaotician. Chosen One. Four-Eyed Raven. First Chair Flute. She/her. Pronounced like "Adrian" with the "N" at the front! #BLM".

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Wikipedia doesn't credit her with a single script! She appears to have been a token hire. Unlike Lois and Clark, she does have script credits for trash fire Krypton which only lasted for twenty episodes over 'two seasons'. Explains why Zod got blacked. ;)

Both Eddie Jones and K Callan were perfect as Jonathan and Martha. This is why it is important to stand up to these idiots. You can listen to Nadria and have a show that couldn't even go a full round or you can have a success.

Oh, and before I leave this steaming pile of shit, she was fired from Superman/Louise for being shit at her job of writing. Oh, but she's saying it was because she defended the Bechdel test and mepoo. So I guess we now know the culprit who put wage gap shit in Lois mutherfuckin' Lane of all peoples mouths.

Why would you do shit like that. "Got to get those woke browney points somehow". Thankfully they didn't go through with it

Because it was one writer and everyone told her no.
 
This was one prominent Marvel editor's express opinion. I'd believe it.


It does okay in sales. As to quality, it varies tremendously.



It was apparently a single bad apple. Nadria Tucker. Self described on her Twat account as "Writer. SJW. Chaotician. Chosen One. Four-Eyed Raven. First Chair Flute. She/her. Pronounced like "Adrian" with the "N" at the front! #BLM".

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Wikipedia doesn't credit her with a single script! She appears to have been a token hire. Unlike Lois and Clark, she does have script credits for trash fire Krypton which only lasted for twenty episodes over 'two seasons'. Explains why Zod got blacked. ;)

Both Eddie Jones and K Callan were perfect as Jonathan and Martha. This is why it is important to stand up to these idiots. You can listen to Nadria and have a show that couldn't even go a full round or you can have a success.

Oh, and before I leave this steaming pile of shit, she was fired from Superman/Louise for being shit at her job of writing. Oh, but she's saying it was because she defended the Bechdel test and mepoo. So I guess we now no the culprit who pit wage gap shit in Lois mutherfuckin' Lane of all peoples mouths.



Because it was one writer and everyone told her no.
I wish more writers would do that these days say no to the insane SJWS
 
I do too Oaty. I do too.

Maybe the down the road the next generation will get some fucking sand.
The next few generations are going to be VERY fucking right-wing. Especially given that the left is collapsing economies and imposing socialism. Patterns in history usually work this way-whenever society accept one extreme and it falls apart, people start pointing fingers, and they typically point fingers at the current power structure and the people who support it. We've seen this in history and politics, even in this fucking country, if society goes too far in one direction, there will inevitably be a course-correction and a huge shift towards the other side.

Especially when Red China falls, and a lot of corporations are tied up with them. Red China is already slowly falling apart from all its internal problems and infighting within the CCP. If the government that replaces the CCP exposes the full extent to which Disney and other leftist companies were helping out the CCP, those leftist companies will have the same reputation as say, Nazi collaborators. The rest of the world would no longer do business with them. The world leaders are already getting tired of America's shit, we saw that when the leftist online media companies censored Orange Man, and the rest of the world got mad and started looking for alternatives. Plenty of Americans hate them, the rest of the world doesn't trust them, their only friends are liberals from Europe and the CCP, and the Europeans themselves don't see these American leftists as equals while the CCP sees them as useful idiots.

The American right wing might not have any balls, but disappointed leftists can be a strong force for change.
 
I don't see how younger generations don't become more Right Wing at this point.

The youth always rebels against those adults in charge. It happened in the 50s, the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, and the 90s. Its kind of natural to do that, and the way the adults and people in charge are like now 1) They have basically made fun illegal because of COVID, 2) They are destroying everything from education to entertainment, and 3) They are imposing moral purity tests on them that extends to how they behave online. Its like 1984 and Footloose had a baby!

I don't see how the youth doesn't rebel against every single bit of that. I was a quiet and calm natured kid, but if I had to put up with all this shit, I'd have told an adult family member or a teacher to fuck off by now.
 
The thing I miss about the old EU is that you didn't have to read everything. There were some books that were downright terrible (The Jedi Prince Series + Crystal Star) but they went largely unnoticed because the bad books didn't get the word of mouth that The Thrawn Trilogy or Dark Empire did. Because of that, the bad stuff went mostly ignored. And back then, we only had the OT movies, video games, and whatever books were coming out, so the books felt more worth checking out because they weren't cheap promotional tools for the movies.

Then the prequels happened, and I felt like a lot of the EU material that got released then was written expressly to fix the shit those movies did (Seriously, read Labyrinth of Evil. That book feels like it was written for the soul purpose of fixing dumb shit in the prequels). But, hey, at least the books were still good and there was still material worth checking out. This was also around the time we got things like The New Jedi Order Series and a bunch of Old Republic stuff in the books, which was cool.

Now we live in this shitty era where you have to play Fortnite, read the books, and the comics just to make sense out of the shit that we see in the movies that went unexplained. So not only are the movies bad, but they expect you to read all this shit to keep up with it. Of the new books for the new canon, I've read the Aftermath Trilogy (DON'T! JUST FUCKING DON'T!), Bloodlines (which was...ok), the Ahsoka book (which was again...just ok), Dark Disciple (which was a carry over from the old canon and unproduced Clone Wars scripts so it doesn't really count), and some of the Marvel comics (Main Star Wars and Darth Vader start off good and then taper off when identity shit comes into play and the Leia series was dull).

The best thing to come out of the new canon in print form surprisingly, the C-3PO comic which explains how he got the red arm. Now, its fucking stupid that he shows up in TFA with a red arm and no explanation other than to sell toys and this comic, but as a showcase for one of the classic characters, it is actually a nice use of 3PO and it showed that hey, this guy can carry a story on his own, which is kind of surprising.
 
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I don't see how younger generations don't become more Right Wing at this point.

The youth always rebels against those adults in charge. It happened in the 50s, the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, and the 90s. Its kind of natural to do that, and the way the adults and people in charge are like now 1) They have basically made fun illegal because of COVID, 2) They are destroying everything from education to entertainment, and 3) They are imposing moral purity tests on them that extends to how they behave online. Its like 1984 and Footloose had a baby!

I don't see how the youth doesn't rebel against every single bit of that. I was a quiet and calm natured kid, but if I had to put up with all this shit, I'd have told an adult family member or a teacher to fuck off by now.
Most of the old folks today are leftist boomers. And I've seen how in schools and other places, the youth have absolutely no respect for them. They're more obsessed with Fortnite or keeping up with who got laid.

The leftists may think they control everything today, but a generation from now, people will wonder why they even existed to begin with.

The thing I miss about the old EU is that you didn't have to read everything. There were some books that were downright terrible (The Jedi Prince Series + Crystal Star) but they went largely unnoticed because the bad books didn't get the word of mouth that saw The Thrawn Trilogy or Dark Empire did. Because of that, the bad stuff went mostly ignored. And back then, we only had the OT movies, video games, and whatever books were coming out, so the books felt more worth checking out because they weren't cheap promotional tools for the movies.

Then the prequels happened, and I felt like a lot of the EU material that got released then was written expressly to fix the shit those movies did (Seriously, read Labyrinth of Evil. That book feels like it was written for the soul purpose of fixing dumb shit in the prequels). But, hey, at least the books were still good and there was still material worth checking out. This was also around the time we got things like The New Jedi Order Series and a bunch of Old Republic stuff in the books, which was cool.

Now we live in this shitty era where you have to play Fortnite, read the books, and the comics just to make sense out of the shit that we see in the movies that went unexplained. So not only are the movies bad, but they expect you to read all this shit to keep up with it. Of the new books for the new canon, I've read the Aftermath Trilogy (DON'T! JUST FUCKING DON'T!), Bloodlines (which was...ok), the Ahsoka book (which was again...just ok), Dark Disciple (which was a carry over from the old canon and unproduced Clone Wars scripts so it doesn't really count), and some of the Marvel comics (Main Star Wars and Darth Vader start off good and then taper off when identity shit comes into play and the Leia series was dull).

The best thing to come out of the new canon in print form surprisingly, the C-3PO comic which explains how he got the red arm. Now, its fucking stupid that he shows up in TFA with a red arm and no explanation other than to sell toys and this comic, but as a showcase for one of the classic characters, it is actually a nice use of 3PO and it showed that hey, this guy can carry a story on his own, which is kind of surprising.
It's the same mistake 343 Studios did with Halo-forcing you to read the books to understand half the shit going on in the games. Only at least 343 allows all their books to be in English so most of the world can understand them. They don't lop off some of the books to be China-specific just to kowtow to a Communist Dictatorship.
 
The D2V DCU stuff is generally pretty good.

Assault on Arkham was a great suicide squad movie, and they should have just made a tweaked version live action

I just watched Superman: Man of Tomorrow a couple weeks ago and it was pretty solid. If the DC live action movies were at least as good as that, there would be fewer detractors.

And then you get the occasional great one. Death of Superman might be the best Superman movie I've ever seen, live action or animated.
 
I just watched Superman: Man of Tomorrow a couple weeks ago and it was pretty solid. If the DC live action movies were at least as good as that, there would be fewer detractors.

And then you get the occasional great one. Death of Superman might be the best Superman movie I've ever seen, live action or animated.

"We need superman to defeat a giant spider? Lame."

That Kevin Smith cameo is even better if you know the full story behind it
 
The D2V DCU stuff is generally pretty good.

Assault on Arkham was a great suicide squad movie, and they should have just made a tweaked version live action
This so much. I never understood the benefit of the live-action film making the Suicide Squad fight world-ending threats instead of what Assault on Arkham did.
 
The next few generations are going to be VERY fucking right-wing. Especially given that the left is collapsing economies and imposing socialism. Patterns in history usually work this way-whenever society accept one extreme and it falls apart, people start pointing fingers, and they typically point fingers at the current power structure and the people who support it. We've seen this in history and politics, even in this fucking country, if society goes too far in one direction, there will inevitably be a course-correction and a huge shift towards the other side.
Well, I've learned that if history has an arc, it's into the fucking sun.
Especially when Red China falls, and a lot of corporations are tied up with them. Red China is already slowly falling apart from all its internal problems and infighting within the CCP. If the government that replaces the CCP exposes the full extent to which Disney and other leftist companies were helping out the CCP, those leftist companies will have the same reputation as say, Nazi collaborators. The rest of the world would no longer do business with them. The world leaders are already getting tired of America's shit, we saw that when the leftist online media companies censored Orange Man, and the rest of the world got mad and started looking for alternatives. Plenty of Americans hate them, the rest of the world doesn't trust them, their only friends are liberals from Europe and the CCP, and the Europeans themselves don't see these American leftists as equals while the CCP sees them as useful idiots.
I'm not betting against the Chinese at this point. The best outcome I can hope for is they become as hopelessly inept as we've gotten the more powerful we became.
The American right wing might not have any balls, but disappointed leftists can be a strong force for change.
I don't see how younger generations don't become more Right Wing at this point.

The youth always rebels against those adults in charge. It happened in the 50s, the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, and the 90s. Its kind of natural to do that, and the way the adults and people in charge are like now 1) They have basically made fun illegal because of COVID, 2) They are destroying everything from education to entertainment, and 3) They are imposing moral purity tests on them that extends to how they behave online. Its like 1984 and Footloose had a baby!

I don't see how the youth doesn't rebel against every single bit of that. I was a quiet and calm natured kid, but if I had to put up with all this shit, I'd have told an adult family member or a teacher to fuck off by now.


It doesn't even have to be right wing. Just tell the weirdo spewing woke garbage to fuck off. I doubt the writers on Lois and Clark were all conservatives. They just had enough sense and grit to tell this dumb bitch to fuck off.

That's all you have to do. Tell them to fuck off and when they throw a fit punish them.

The D2V DCU stuff is generally pretty good.

Assault on Arkham was a great suicide squad movie, and they should have just made a tweaked version live action

Exactly. Leto Joker as the surprise bad guy would have completely changed how people viewed him.

The thing I miss about the old EU is that you didn't have to read everything. There were some books that were downright terrible (The Jedi Prince Series + Crystal Star) but they went largely unnoticed because the bad books didn't get the word of mouth that The Thrawn Trilogy or Dark Empire did. Because of that, the bad stuff went mostly ignored. And back then, we only had the OT movies, video games, and whatever books were coming out, so the books felt more worth checking out because they weren't cheap promotional tools for the movies.

Then the prequels happened, and I felt like a lot of the EU material that got released then was written expressly to fix the shit those movies did (Seriously, read Labyrinth of Evil. That book feels like it was written for the soul purpose of fixing dumb shit in the prequels). But, hey, at least the books were still good and there was still material worth checking out. This was also around the time we got things like The New Jedi Order Series and a bunch of Old Republic stuff in the books, which was cool.
You know. You bring up Dark Empire. After watching the fantastic cartoon, I realized Veitch came very close to breaking things. Holocron lore, world devastators supposedly being indestructible (nothing is indestructible), even Luke turning to the Dark Side.

What saves DE I is its so fucking creative. No Death Stars, world building that explains what's different and actually following up on threats (Palps possessing people), and Luke's fall and Vader's being different (unlike Jacen or Kylo).
Now we live in this shitty era where you have to play Fortnite, read the books, and the comics just to make sense out of the shit that we see in the movies that went unexplained. So not only are the movies bad, but they expect you to read all this shit to keep up with it. Of the new books for the new canon, I've read the Aftermath Trilogy (DON'T! JUST FUCKING DON'T!), Bloodlines (which was...ok), the Ahsoka book (which was again...just ok), Dark Disciple (which was a carry over from the old canon and unproduced Clone Wars scripts so it doesn't really count), and some of the Marvel comics (Main Star Wars and Darth Vader start off good and then taper off when identity shit comes into play and the Leia series was dull).
Dark Disciple isn't....very good. Asaj character got butchered in Filoni Wars.
The best thing to come out of the new canon in print form surprisingly, the C-3PO comic which explains how he got the red arm. Now, its fucking stupid that he shows up in TFA with a red arm and no explanation other than to sell toys and this comic, but as a showcase for one of the classic characters, it is actually a nice use of 3PO and it showed that hey, this guy can carry a story on his own, which is kind of surprising.

yeah. Maybe they can bring us live action Droids! ;) *sigh*

It would fit, stealing from the Star Wars dark ages.
 
I don't see how younger generations don't become more Right Wing at this point.

The youth always rebels against those adults in charge. It happened in the 50s, the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, and the 90s. Its kind of natural to do that, and the way the adults and people in charge are like now 1) They have basically made fun illegal because of COVID, 2) They are destroying everything from education to entertainment, and 3) They are imposing moral purity tests on them that extends to how they behave online. Its like 1984 and Footloose had a baby!
With how Marxism having infiltrated every American institutions from the Federal Government, religion to Hollywood in late 19th to early 20th centuries had produced almost a century of American useful idiots, sellouts and true believers. Which is why the Powers-that-Be been losing their shit over the Internet not being entirely under their control 25 plus years.
 
Now we live in this shitty era where you have to play Fortnite, read the books, and the comics just to make sense out of the shit that we see in the movies that went unexplained. So not only are the movies bad, but they expect you to read all this shit to keep up with it. Of the new books for the new canon, I've read the Aftermath Trilogy (DON'T! JUST FUCKING DON'T!), Bloodlines (which was...ok), the Ahsoka book (which was again...just ok), Dark Disciple (which was a carry over from the old canon and unproduced Clone Wars scripts so it doesn't really count), and some of the Marvel comics (Main Star Wars and Darth Vader start off good and then taper off when identity shit comes into play and the Leia series was dull).
What's even worse is that the ancillary Nu-Canon materials' attempts to flesh out the films is almost always immediately trampled underfoot by on-screen retcons.

The shitty Poe Dameron comic? Retconned into oblivion thanks to TLJ showing him as a reckless hothead disobeying Leia when they absolutely do not have that relationship in the comics (as well as TROS changing his origin to spice runner and making him oblivious to jet troopers he already fought in the comics).

Claudia Grey's eye-rollingly stupid background info on Leia for her Bloodlines novel? All changed, thanks to TROS' revelation about her abandoning Jedi Training out of fear for her son (even TLJ got partially retconned because Rian Johnson claimed that Leia never had any Jedi Training and that her Super Leia feat was just an instinctual maneuver).

The Ahsoka novel? Blissfully retconned by Filoni himself, with just about every detail about the Siege of Mandalore--which was already sketchy in the first place--now retconned to support a season finale that somehow manages to make even less sense.

And the novelizations? Fucking forget about 'em. Both Alan Dean Foster's TFA and Jason Fry's TLJ have background info on Snoke being an ancient archivist who collects Force artifacts...only for TROS to waltz along and retcon him as a fucking clone. And then you have my favorite one of all, which is the fucking atrocious Kylo Ren comics, which not only rewrote Kylo to have not actually killed Luke's students even though that's what TLJ deliberately tells us, but also gives Snoke autonomy as an individual person who emotionally manipulates Kylo into turning against the other Jedi. And this isn't even getting into all the ways that the films contradict each other.

Even if you read, watch, and consoom everything in canon, you have to make a wealth of personal concessions to reconcile all the ways that it doesn't mesh well together, and even with that, it's all to link together a collection of stories that range from mediocre to outright terrible.

Which is funny, because I'm actually one of those mouth-breathing lore fiends who actually does like to read everything...I read Crimson Empire, Chewbacca, Invasion and Rogue Planet to get the full context of what was happening in NJO. I read all the old 80's Marvel issues to get the rundown on Lumiya before reading LOTF. And I know that when I'm done with FOTJ, I'll probably go back and read all of the novellas, short stories and comics pertaining to the Lost Tribe of the Sith, just because I find them so interesting. Even if the quality of the individual stories aren't that great, I can still appreciate the ways that the continuity flows together and makes sense, and it's rewarding as a reader to see how everything comes together. Sure, there's a retcon or two along the way, but when the good stories outnumber the bad, it's a small price to pay when keeping up with everything. But that incentive doesn't exist with Nu-Canon, because on top of all of the stories being complete fucking trash, they aren't even consistent in terms of continuity to warrant reading everything.

Also, this "Read Everything If You Want The Full Scoop" Method that Disney/LFL are currently employing with High Republic is already killing them. On top of places like r/StarWars barely acknowledging that project's existence, the only posts you'll find on it are baffled outsiders asking what order they have to read this shit in.

The only traction High Republic is getting on the official Star Wars Reddit is apathy at best, and confusion at worst.
 
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