Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

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A bit of off topic fun but Lily defending Sophie Labelle’s honor a day before it got Worse

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Labelle is spiralling and Lily’s got egg on her face. You think Lily’ll commission dog degrading kink art from Sophie now? :woo:

 
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That's a lot of words to say 'because misogyny'.

(Just using Lily's own logic here)

Also... I have no investment in Star Wars. I haven't seen the sequels barring the latter half of TFA. So correct me if I'm wrong, but, like... the Dark Side doesn't just corrupt people, right? It's a siren song to those who desire strength and it's a temptation that has to be fought and denied. But in the same breath it's also possible for somebody, even somebody deeply mired in its manipulation, to turn away and find themselves again.

I don't think Leia 'blamed the Dark Side', because falling to the Dark Side is an indicator that something called you to it, and depending on what that something was, you could still be pulled out. Ben was called to it by manipulations and fear and betrayal; Anakin was called to it by love twisted into fear; Palpatine was just super into ruling the galaxy. Freeing somebody from the Dark Side doesn't mean blaming the literal Dark Side of the Force for their evil, it means recognizing what drove them so far and bringing them back from that.

Aliana doesn't refute anything. Aliana only gets involved in helping people because she wants to bang Rey. Aliana murders random people because they're rich and then feels good inside because she helped 'fix the problem'. Aliana is presently threatening the Resistance with an inexplicable fleet. Aliana used Force Lightning on Leia and nobody batted an eyelash. Aliana has proven over and over again to be a selfish spoiled brat, which is exactly what you would expect from somebody raised to think the Dark Side is just the edgy goth option.

No amount of crying after committing 'justified genocide' is going to make her a good person.
 
So correct me if I'm wrong, but, like... the Dark Side doesn't just corrupt people, right?
It depends on the source, some sources state the Dark Side is addictive and using it once means you are very likely doomed and that Vader was a very very rare case of being able to break away from it.
 
That's a lot of words to say 'because misogyny'.

(Just using Lily's own logic here)

Also... I have no investment in Star Wars. I haven't seen the sequels barring the latter half of TFA. So correct me if I'm wrong, but, like... the Dark Side doesn't just corrupt people, right? It's a siren song to those who desire strength and it's a temptation that has to be fought and denied. But in the same breath it's also possible for somebody, even somebody deeply mired in its manipulation, to turn away and find themselves again.

I don't think Leia 'blamed the Dark Side', because falling to the Dark Side is an indicator that something called you to it, and depending on what that something was, you could still be pulled out. Ben was called to it by manipulations and fear and betrayal; Anakin was called to it by love twisted into fear; Palpatine was just super into ruling the galaxy. Freeing somebody from the Dark Side doesn't mean blaming the literal Dark Side of the Force for their evil, it means recognizing what drove them so far and bringing them back from that.

Aliana doesn't refute anything. Aliana only gets involved in helping people because she wants to bang Rey. Aliana murders random people because they're rich and then feels good inside because she helped 'fix the problem'. Aliana is presently threatening the Resistance with an inexplicable fleet. Aliana used Force Lightning on Leia and nobody batted an eyelash. Aliana has proven over and over again to be a selfish spoiled brat, which is exactly what you would expect from somebody raised to think the Dark Side is just the edgy goth option.

No amount of crying after committing 'justified genocide' is going to make her a good person.
Yeah, Lily always tries to portray that her fanfic is innovative and challenging in terms of questioning standard morality of people and it is not like the thousands of stories out there, but you just need go to a fanfiction page, type "egdy teen anarchist trash" and you easily finds thousands of stories with the same sense of morality and perhaps a better story.
 
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On today's episode of "Jerry ignores everything that contradicts his unassailable opinions"...

The fact that Leia was as handy with a gun as any of her rescuers, was one of the highest leaders in the Alliance, took direct part in a raid to destroy the death star and kill the emperor, and on and on and on... then her arc with Han and Luke, her willingness to get down in the dirt despite being a pretty princess, her growth from naive optimism to hardened determination, all of this is nothing, she's not much of a character at all. Nope. Just a cardboard cutout for Jerry to subvert and turn into an ass so his mary sue sith can look better in comparison.
Yeah if I remember correctly, Leia was like the General Patton of the rebellion, she was always working towards her goal, which made her more no-no sense compared to a laid back Han or an Optimistic Luke.

80s Leia wouldnt've taken any shit from a stupid Character like Aliana, who only exists to prove she's better and groom younger girls. This is one of the reasons I think Aliana as a character is inherently terrible. She has no depth beyond "I'm right, stop thinking" so any and all interaction she has bends the universe to that logic.
 
That's a lot of words to say 'because misogyny'.

(Just using Lily's own logic here)

Also... I have no investment in Star Wars. I haven't seen the sequels barring the latter half of TFA. So correct me if I'm wrong, but, like... the Dark Side doesn't just corrupt people, right? It's a siren song to those who desire strength and it's a temptation that has to be fought and denied. But in the same breath it's also possible for somebody, even somebody deeply mired in its manipulation, to turn away and find themselves again.

I don't think Leia 'blamed the Dark Side', because falling to the Dark Side is an indicator that something called you to it, and depending on what that something was, you could still be pulled out. Ben was called to it by manipulations and fear and betrayal; Anakin was called to it by love twisted into fear; Palpatine was just super into ruling the galaxy. Freeing somebody from the Dark Side doesn't mean blaming the literal Dark Side of the Force for their evil, it means recognizing what drove them so far and bringing them back from that.

Aliana doesn't refute anything. Aliana only gets involved in helping people because she wants to bang Rey. Aliana murders random people because they're rich and then feels good inside because she helped 'fix the problem'. Aliana is presently threatening the Resistance with an inexplicable fleet. Aliana used Force Lightning on Leia and nobody batted an eyelash. Aliana has proven over and over again to be a selfish spoiled brat, which is exactly what you would expect from somebody raised to think the Dark Side is just the edgy goth option.

No amount of crying after committing 'justified genocide' is going to make her a good person.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I was always under the impression that the Dark Side was, like, a metaphor for using force powers for malevolent purposes or giving in to base instincts and references to it and the Force having a will were more in the philosophical sense. Not some sentient thing that can literally lure people into itself by going "PSSSSsssst hey kid, wanna buy some Dark Side?"
 
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I was always under the impression that the Dark Side was, like, a metaphor for using force powers for malevolent purposes or giving in to base instincts and references to it and the Force having a will were more in the philosophical sense. Not some sentient thing that can literally lure people into itself by going "PSSSSsssst hey kid, wanna buy some Dark Side?"

I could be wrong, but I'm 90% certain that George Lucas, the unsubtle dunce supreme himself, has equated the Dark Side of the force to drugs.
 
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I could be wrong, but I'm 90% certain that George Lucas, the unsubtle dunce supreme himself, has equated the Dark Side of the force to drugs.
As unsubtle as is it, it may be a decent metaphor. I mean, how many junkies and hard drug defenders try to pull the "They're not hurting anyone but themselves!" line without stopping to realize that drugs can and do cause the person to hurt those around them?
 
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Yeah, I've always been under the assumption it was 'power corrupts' thing and that utilizing the Dark Side prompts a slippery slope. Most Sith Lords use it because they're ambitious and cruel, but then you can also see how people fall to the Dark Side in Anakin's story. My contention was that she doesn't focus on how Leia sees the situation as something she can save her son from, she just 'blames the Dark Side'.

Like you're just walking down the street being a pure as an innocent Padawan and then the Dark Side just punches you in the nuts and now you're evil.

Not some sentient thing that can literally lure people into itself by going "PSSSSsssst hey kid, wanna buy some Dark Side?"

This was the other mental image I had.

So I was trying to find something specific on her blog and going back a page I saw this:

Has it ever crossed your mind that the reason people suggest you change Aliana so drastically is because as she is now she doesn't work well as a character? You want her as both a hardened badass and a perpetual victim of circumstance but those don't mesh well together. Why not choose one or the other or have two characters instead if you want both?
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That’s the thing tho: Aliana isn’t a hardened badass. That’s literally a fucking act. At most she’s jaded and nihilistic, but the whole “Fearsome Dark Lady will crush the Republic if they cross her” thing is a big fucking lie.
I would have thought the revalation that her introduction where she swaggers around Jakku coercing a junk dealer, flirting with a scavenger and giving away all the supplies she doesn’t need anymore was actually her looking for the things she needed to commit suicide would have gotten that point across. But apparently you’re dumber than most.
So the first thing that leapt out of me was, of course, that she's justifying that half of Aliana's split personality is that she's just pretending and she isn't REALLY like that, which is one of the stock explanations that teenage fangirls use when they re-write evil characters to make them good and redeemable. Back when I was following Harry Potter sporkings this was THE thing that always happened with Draco Malfoy-- he's a total dick, but he's hot, so fanfiction authors would just completely re-write his personality and then say the way he behaves in canon was 'just an act'.

It's basically just a shitty excuse to have a wildly inconsistent and bipolar character, especially given that having a character who's actually really decent and kind and just hurting inside pretend to be a badass evil dictator will RIP THEM APART on the inside because it's so at odds with who they actually are. Villains can do the inverse because the 'good guy act' is getting them toward a goal, but when a fundamentally good person has to commit evil as part of a persona they're affecting? It will drive them insane. Even if that 'evil persona' is committing atrocities for the 'greater good', it's not great for a person's psyche.

And the fact of the matter is, it's a lie that it's a lie. If Lily didn't have so many scenes from Aliana's perspective you could get away with it, but other than those scenes where Leia says mean things to her and then she wanders into the back and cries about how mean she is, you never see her come down off the power high. She threatens the Republic with an inexplicable fleet and there isn't a scene where she walks back into her own ship and collapses in a chair and buries her head in her hands and decompresses from that persona. The whole chapter on the casino planet (where she causes a dozen rich randos to commit suicide) is named for the fact that even though she seems nice there's a reason she has a Sith title. She isn't affecting a persona at that point; it's a random act of mass murder and she's totally justified in it and totally self-assured about her righteousness when she does affect this alleged 'big fucking lie'.

Moreover... why would she need to affect this persona? She's supposed to be lying low and just surviving. Why does she have to pretend to be a big bad Sith Lord? It does her literally no favors. And -- correct me if I'm wrong -- but isn't Aliana's whole thing that she's proud of her Sith lineage? Is her being a Sith Lord an act, or is it part of her proud heritage?

As stated, the answer is obviously that Lily's just making an excuse so she can pass off her shitty writing as intentional. But it's just shitty writing. Minor powerlevel, but I actually wound up writing a character who was just putting on an evil persona when in reality they were a broken mess. It's actually a really fascinating dichotomy to explore, and it also resulted in the character becoming deranged and erratic because she couldn't fully consolidate her actual character with the mask she was wearing.

If this were something Lily had actually intended to explore, it could've been a really interesting character study and actually made Aliana legitimately sympathetic-- you have this broken mess of a human being who's decided to fully embrace the Dark Side heritage in order to mask her insecurities, but it takes a toll on her psyche and it's only through having somebody who's willing to love her (instead of fear her) that she becomes her true, better self.

(I think I just suggested that TSR actually be sci-fi Beauty and the Beast and I don't really have a problem with that. And since it's about lesbians I doubt Lily would either.)

Instead it's just a switch that Lily can flip. Badass Dark Lady of the Sith when necessary, uwu soft lesbian when not.

The second thing that struck me is what I bolded: that apparently Aliana was working up to committing suicide in the first chapter? What the actual fuck? When was THAT established?

And could you maybe make it less obviously a retcon? If Aliana was planning on killing herself (which... why would she need to find things to 'prepare'? Why would she not give away ALL of the supply packs? Aliana doesn't have any family or friends at this point so what was stopping her from just jumping out of the airlock of her ship, she didn't have anybody to prepare for or say goodbye to. Also, wait, hadn't she gathered her giant fleet by this point? She must have, there's no other place in the timeline except before the fic even starts. Why would she do that if she didn't even have a motivation to keep living?

It's just such a naked attempt at making Aliana even more sympathetic. If Rey hadn't come into her life she would have taken it instead, isn't that tragic but also testament to how strong their love is?

I hope there's a moment where she slaps a "Who Rescued Who?" bumper sticker on her spaceship.
 
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It's just such a naked attempt at making Aliana even more sympathetic. If Rey hadn't come into her life she would have taken it instead, isn't that tragic but also testament to how strong their love is?
And like everything Lilly does to make things more 'romantic', it just makes their relationship even creepier. "Without you, I'd literally commit suicide" should not be in the foundation of any healthy relationship.
 
I once wrote a character a bit like Aliana but not shitty. He was a Jedi who turned to the Dark Side out of a sense of duty to the Jedi Order. Knowing that the Jedi are far too tempered and diplomatic he became the "Dark Hand of the Jedi", using the Dark Side as a tool to hunt, kill, and terrorize those who would threaten galactic peace and harm the innocent. People like Palpatine... and Aliana.
Dude ended up with a lot of problems because the Dark Side fueled within him cruelty and power lust, both of which were very hard to keep in check. The longer he went on the worse it got, his morality and ideals slowly twisting to justify more and more extreme atrocities against the enemies of peace until he simply couldn't live with what he'd done any longer and allowed himself to fully succumb to the Dark Side to escape the guilt.

He convinced himself that he was a monster because he had to do monstrous things. In the end he became a bit like Vader. The man he had once been was dead, replaced with a cold, uncaring, thoroughly broken person. He became the very thing he sought to destroy.
 
I could be wrong, but if Equestria is divided, doesn't that mean G4 is sort of pointless? Twilight and her friends failed to maintain peace in Equestria and the show's whole universe went back to square one.
It's possible it's a complete reboot. So far none of the generations of MLP have connected to each other as far as I'm aware. Could be wrong since I know next to nothing about G1-3, but I know G4 had pretty much nothing to do with previous generations in terms of story.
 
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Almost as if Lily is trying to distance herself from the MLP fandom and her contributions to it, i wonder why?
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Even if Stockholm didn't exist, this just comes off as sour grapes. Likely because most people in the mlp fandom (and most fandoms) consider Lily a dipshit. This is just her not even hiding her contempt anymore.

Whenever MLP is brought up around her she gets defensively snide and has this "I was right the whole time and no one listened" attitude. I guess if you have nothing to be proud of you might as well hold your opinions about cartoons over others.
 
Didn't know you were a misogynist, Jerry

After all, if Bryan Konietzko and Michael DiMartino are misogynists for making Azula unhinged then you're about as bad for denigrating Leia's character. Funny how that works!

Didn't know you were a xenophobe, Jerry

I would imagine that pale makeup and "nonsensical outfit" that the Naboo royalty wear has some kind of cultural significance to them... which hasn't been explored granted, but nobody wears nonsensical outfits for no reason, it's obvious what Lucas was going for

In light of the recent news surrounding Generation 5 of MLP, he retweeted this nonsense from Wootmaster.
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And then he deleted said retweet.

Brony hanger-ons are being speds over a show for little girls? Say it ain't so

I read the blurb that Wootmaster shared and nothing about it suggests "leftist propaganda", in fact I'm pretty sure a lot of that "ponies live divided by species" type stuff was present in Friendship is Magic lol

Might be a hot take but I kinda agree with Jerry here if that's true lmao
 
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