Melanie Herring / Purplekecleon / PK / PapayaKitty / GlitchedPuppet / Ash Hazel Woods / Floraverse - Abusive, manipulative SJW artist whose ex-husband fucked a dog and teenagers and whose current husband thinks he's trans because of a TF fetish, admitted to fucking two dogs and letting her cat eat her out

[Meowthkip]

It's impressive what a change in expressivity and dialogue can do to my opinion of a character. I also think Beleth was better in the unedited pages. I don't think PK had ever attempted a serious, apathetic kind of character since all her characters are so neurotic, so they were a nice change, but sadly we had to lose them. And honestly I prefer unedited Min and Cress too. Min now has the standard PK-style round head with nubby nose and Cress, who already had the standard round head with nubby nose, now has it even more noticeably, & with more generic expressions to match.

BTW the Enogoats are a fresh concept at least. Understandable, since they were invented by a different person. I like the one with the swirly arms for some reason, I guess it's got a nice colour scheme. However I prefer the original designs and name. What the hell is up now with that messed up zig-zag thing? and a dalek? WHy is pk doing this

I'd love to see some side-by-side comparisons, if at all possible.

 

[Scratch This Nut]

It's impressive what a change in expressivity and dialogue can do to my opinion of a character. I also think Beleth was better in the unedited pages. I don't think PK had ever attempted a serious, apathetic kind of character since all her characters are so neurotic, so they were a nice change, but sadly we had to lose them. And honestly I prefer unedited Min and Cress too. Min now has the standard PK-style round head with nubby nose and Cress, who already had the standard round head with nubby nose, now has it even more noticeably, & with more generic expressions to match.

BTW the Enogoats are a fresh concept at least. Understandable, since they were invented by a different person. I like the one with the swirly arms for some reason, I guess it's got a nice colour scheme. However I prefer the original designs and name. What the hell is up now with that messed up zig-zag thing? and a dalek? WHy is pk doing this

I really hate her species sheets. Most of the time the creatures look absolutely nothing alike. Throwing all those damn hybrids into the mix doesn't help.

 

[Galaxy Harasser]

Add me unto the pile of "I liked Beleth before he was turned into a snarky asshole". Well...I was more neutral to him and his old personality, but I liked his design.

Of the four commanders: Furfur, Amadusias, Orobas and Beleth; two of them, Furfur and Orobas, are extroverted and "loud" in many ways than one. Amadusias and Beleth were the quieter ones (though the former had her form of outbursts). So there was some balance there.

Now that Beleth is an snarky, over-reactive character...only Amadusias can really be considered the "straight-man" of the four.

I'd love to see some side-by-side comparisons, if at all possible.

She posted three on her tumblr: One Two Three
PK just can't stop drawing those open infinity-sign mouths.

 

[Malady Twigs]

You can't really judge development based solely on the characters' excessive "comical" expressions because, well, each installment has its own tone and purpose, but taking into consideration the edits PK is doing, yes, some personality shift is happening here and there. People who follow the comic and its several spin-offs and arcs might have indeed already noticed the changes. Most of us can agree that the characters are blending and becoming worse.

Here's a picture with different expressions for the three commanders, left is "before" and right is "after". Right is mostly Broken Toy and the "comedy" porn comic featuring Orobas and Beleth. It still bugs me the excess of deranged expressions in every single page of that comic; it's trying to pass off as "funny", but it's really just demented. Like Courage the Cowardly Dog or Yuckie Duck, except it doesn't work because PK's style is kemono-based; the loony cartoon feel is just off.

 

[Funnybone]

I remember reading somewhere that PK posted in a private twitter account that she didn't like how 'girly' Milk's friends were and I think she was pretty vocal about that. I also believe PK is fiercely competitive with women-- I mean, her partners need to have their girlfriends LIVE with them before they can even sleep with someone, and I remember someone asking about Marl's girlfriend and PK was really pissy about it and said it wasn't their business.

 

[TheInfamousJ]

I just wanted to chime in, some people have been asking about Marl, and I've had a few experiences with him, and he is really not much better then LexyEevee.

He's as defensive and as much of a liar with double standards as the rest of them, also he snarls to defend PK as much as LexyEevee does, or at the least did. In fact he used to more then LexyEevee (to my knowledge at least).

I also noticed you guys mentioning that he doesn't really have a self insert, but he did in PMD-E, one of which was Devonshire who was basically a wannabe Edgar Alan Poe creation that basically could phase through walls, was always right, was super powerful and could pretty much mind fuck whoever he wanted, and no one could ever criticize him ever (and everyone was just too afraid to/feared him). There was also Dimitri for a while who was somewhat of an OP super powerful character as well, though in different ways (super strong fighter, always kind of fell into being important/super helpful), and the Ninetales guy who was all whimsical and dark, and spoke in riddle-ish ways (who by the way turned silver as he aged, which is just not how that works. Ninetailed foxes turn either gold or silver when they get their last tail and stop aging. It's not an age thing, just some turn gold, some turn silver. The pokemon normal and shiny form are a reference to that. There's even a ninetales in the PMD games (the original) that's that age, it's not hard. This may seem like a nitpick but it goes to show how much they research before basing things off other things, which is not much. Which is relevant even in floraverse.). They were all super cool guys that you should be honored to be in the presence of (really unbearable mary sues who's greatness, darkness, and whimsicalness was shoved in your face).

Now, first and the small offense, but this was pretty much Marl's normal. In the group PMD-E, there were rules that tracing was just not allowed, but the group (*cough* admins *cough*) decided to lax on rules based on just deciding not to. They just did what they wanted to, regardless of fairness to the group. And based on favoritism. It's also worth noting, all events were judged and there were prizes to win, so tracing was really not fair to the other members (and again it was in the rules that it wasn't permitted).

Spoiler: Big Screenshot

The links:
http://7th-petal.deviantart.com/art/Team-RolleyPolley-Mission-6-3-300265996

Archive: https://archive.is/SrntE

http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/Slush-267887622

Archive: https://archive.is/Tt2ul

You'll notice the general gist of his attitude is he's always right and everyone else is always wrong. Also trying to fault someone else for also pointing out an issue (it just popped up in my feed, and I'd noticed no one'd addressed it yet).

Then in the one of the journals, Marl posted this:

Spoiler: More Images of Hypocrisy

Now, first of all the fact that he's acting so defensive like this is a huge red flag, and saying multiples are full of it is an even bigger one.

Full journal here: http://pmd-explorers.deviantart.com/journal/A-Goodbye-384740037

Archive: https://archive.is/Vo7e0

Well, wouldn't it be just awful if someone screenshotted him doing the very opposite of that and being an irrational biased individual? Perish the thought, surely that'd never happen!

Spoiler: Long Image

(I would like to point out the reason for the ban was quoting back at PK exactly what she said to me.)

Look at all that warning. Look at all that privacy.

You'll also notice in that journal post, Marl comes off very slimey. "That's fine, as it's only in their nature. Not a very good nature, but they can't help it." (Calling out an actual thing he did is somehow a bad thing in their nature. Boy doesn't that sound familiar?)

You'll also notice he claims PK had nothing to do with the bans, but she was clearly super happy about it here.

Also, about the self-diagnosing Autism thing:

Spoiler: Sincerely Long Post

I want to warn everyone that if you do have Autism, this can be genuinely triggering for you, and not in the tumblr way. I mean possibly trigger panic attacks. We good? We good.

I'm pretty sure I didn't know what she meant by "diagnosed" or I was startled. I have a no lying policy, so my response kind of confuses me earlier.

PK and Eevee were raging bigots to Autistics, but the second it became cool suddenly, "I'm Autistic, you guys!".

(And by the way, this kind of calls bull on PK's claim that she didn't know how high functioning Autism functioned/the details of it. She makes it very clear here she knew (or thought she did, due to her and Eevee's own opinions mattering more then professionals and actual Autistics.).)

Spoiler: A bit personal

I want everyone to know I'm an abuse victim, I've had the cops tell me I had to be lying due to my Autism when I called them about the abuse, I had a therapist (I knew since I was tell me I had to be lying about it and other things due to my Autism (that one hurt. A lot). This still remains one of the most upsetting things said to me due to it. I felt dehumanized in a way I'd never felt before, and I'd been told I didn't have a right to an opinion multiple times in my life due to it, because I "couldn't think for myself". It's actually taking a lot to post this. I was so dehumanized, they spoke about me and my condition like I wasn't even human, and shut me down when I tried to speak on it. I still get really shaky and border on panic attack when I read it or it comes up. And I know what PTSD is (I was dragged across the floor and beaten while my mom told my dad she didn't care about my health, just his, trust me, I know), but thinking about the event can trigger it.

PK was a huge bigot to Autistics, believing them less then human, and people she can speak over. Notice how she talks about them like they're less then human, or freaks in a cage, in front of two of them (I wonder if Mike regrets defending her now, in hindsight (KuiperFrog is Mike, by the way)). Stuff like that.

Also, more signs of possible gaslighting from PK and Eevee "I'm not out to get you, now let me talk about what a horrifying monster you are." "Ugh, why are you defending yourself like we're insulting you?" "See, just like that, Autistics always bring up something irrelevant to defend themselves" (because bringing up great minds believed to have Autism is totally irrelevant when talking about how Autistics are capable of quite a bit.)

But guys, Autistics are now considered a minority, and so PK has decided she's one, too!

Also, notice how Eevee just decides he knows more then professionals (as does PK), nor do they have any idea how things work. I mean look at how full of themselves they are.

Also, it's strongly believed Satoshi Tajiri has Autism (if not flat out stated). So basically they're insulting the very guy they basically piggy backed fame off of, and where they ripped off their main source of profit from.

(Also, it's worth noting, the thing I was originally criticized for was not being pleased with a vore discussion, and a guy complaining a group didn't want his vore. Also, when PK wasn't online, the conversation went a direction where I mentioned I didn't have like fan worship or think she was THAT great or anything. PK jumped on later and suddenly I got message from them asking what I meant by it. I explained I just didn't always agree with everything she did or always think her art was perfect, but I still liked it. She said this was fine. It was not fine.)

Also, I've been following the PK drama for a while, so a few things to mention.

1. PK was super picky about what happened in PMD-E and threw a hissy fit about Pokemon having glasses, originally they were allowed, but she rejected NPCs with them. Later they were banned out right because she just didn't like them (new characters were just not allowed glasses). A journal about the NPC thing and her views on glasses: http://pmd-explorers.deviantart.com/journal/On-NPC-Suggestions-262863216
Archive: https://archive.is/S039g
2. This is relevant to the above point and to people's points about it's skeevy she made groups aimed at younger audiences and then drew porn of it. Yes it was, so remember how she threw a hissy fit about glasses? (Because she didn't find them visually appealing, so no one could!) She made items about Merlot, her canonically rape-y Lugia character who dressed everybody into maid outfits. Including BDSM items. Like a choker and a ball gag. Reasonably, people were upset, bringing up how there was a younger audience in the group, and the group didn't call itself 18+. Comments on it found here: http://comments.deviantart.com/1/290954538/2461459333?offset=0#comments
Archive: https://archive.is/QC03w
3. I'm not entirely sure on this, but I distinctly remember her mentioning wanting to try to get Nintendo of America to publish her Pokemon mary sue fan comic (filled with porn, by the way), but when that didn't work out, just went to a doujinshi company.
4. I know a lot of people have mentioned PK can not handle criticism, but she can not handle criticism, no matter how polite.
5. PK would draw the lead up to porn stories on DA and post them to the group, and then tell people to check her tumblr for the resolution (specifically to draw younger audiences to it).
6. PK drew a story and a ton of porn of her having sex with her cat's self insert, and even becoming engaged to him. Her cat's.
7. Flipped out and publicly shamed and kicked a guy from the group and took his character (Mike) because he made his character a self insert and had a lot of people into him, saying the story wasn't about that and people's kinks, and that he was derailing the story. PK (who had a self insert who derailed the story constantly to be about who their character was boning). It's worth noting one of the people Mike nearly boned was PK's character (apparently that was OK, though). To this day she still takes jabs at him.
8. The group was supposed to be influenced by players, what a farce. It was always rigged to PK's team, and eventually even the members that appeared in the cameos were always treated like they were burdens/failures, or made to look bad so the moderators (specifically PK and Marl's) characters could look better. It got so bad that events stopped even really needing to have the group members do anything (there was an event to plant plants, doesn't seem like much, but it was a start, but nope the moderator's characters influenced it so the plants instantly grew to steal the glory, and then right after that there was a mission/event to just get to the middle of a forest. Just walking. That's it.).
9. PK promised certain prizes for if you won. Certain scores would get you a fully colored piece, and most of the time they were very sloppy less effort work (congratulations on working hard, PK was too busy drawing her character getting boned to put much effort on your prize!), and at one point she mentioned being too busy to draw rewards and saying she would just give out plushies/other rewards (which was fine), but the people who won before the change got a smaller reward (a sketchy image on a sketch dump) which was a smaller reward then they were promised (the normal prize was a full color image of your team, often doing things, with a background) when they won. (I mean it's fine if you're busy after, but the people who put the effort in deserve the reward they were promised).
Original rewards:
http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/Team-Scrappy-261974486
Archive: https://archive.is/xZAEF
http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/The-Dismal-Duo-261975857
Archive: https://archive.is/ZIe5p
http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/White-Trash-Circus-261971713
Archive: https://archive.is/eCejt
http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/Team-Valhalla-261796266
Archive: https://archive.is/gHykR
http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/Half-Winter-Downs-261793161
Archive: https://archive.is/jPxmW
Rewards for this batch:
http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/M3-Winners-281433249
Archive: https://archive.is/CUaDM
10. She once drew art for another member who entered every mission and event, as a gift and a thank you. But she omitted her hairclip (which she had to earn) because "it got in the way of PK's face".
http://comments.deviantart.com/1/281442321/2383841029
Archive: https://archive.is/TTtTe
It's gift art, the person you're drawing it for should take the focus, especially when you draw the other character constantly and it's not like they get drawn by you often. (The person may have been OK with it later, but you shouldn't just assume these things and how narcissistic can you be? This person supported your group and took part in every event they had.)
11. PK would very intentionally frame people or hinder the entire group to put blame on others, I don't have screenshots of it, but some drama went down about how PK would wait for the timer to run out for missions to update that the deadline was pushed back. People found out sometimes she knew at least a week ahead the deadline would be pushed back (I believe Mike confirmed it or something, or even posted the conversation, or someone who knew Mike got the conversation from him or something), but didn't notify the group sooner, causing the members a lot of stress. People (from what I saw politely) complained about this. So to spite them, she once pretended to lengthen the deadline, but when the people who were relieved went to bed, she closed it and then made a journal saying complainers caused her to close it. So that the people who were now BANKING on the deadline totally missed it and wasted their hard work (which was done on purpose), and were upset, and so everyone would go after the people rightly complaining.

If I recall correctly she pulled this stuff a few times, including against underage members. She was really happy to screw over the whole to make people with reasonable complaints look like bad guys. I can't confirm it, but I'm pretty sure she did the same thing with the BDSM/Maid stuff, a lot of people complained, and they were supposed to be temporary (as in temporary to obtain, they were permanent otherwise). Then she kept them a bit longer and threw out all the old outfits without warning, just to spite everyone. For the record, if she got a few complaints (no matter how valid), you better be ready for the whole group to suffer for it.

Also, she and the group would love you (if you happened to be one of the popular ones they liked) until you did one thing disagreeing, or once didn't fit into the mold. And then they tore you to shreds. I can't tell you how many times people were one second everyone's favorites and always winning, and the next had everyone at their throats.

I also can't tell you how many people I know quit (including people who were once super active and popular in the group), and when I asked them why it was due to PK and Marl's bs.

Also, this is kind of a side note, and not entirely relevant, but I recall someone drawing a purple kecleon and PK commented on it saying it was PK, and they mentioned it wasn't, and she mentioned that it had PK's colors (the purple kecleon in the PMD games has green markings, not yellow ones), so it was PK and the person mentioned they based it off the purple kecleon in the show, and PK said that's what PK is based on. I mean, really, you flat out copied the show, and yet claim the color scheme is yours? Really? And yet they go on to complain how everyone is unoriginal and always stealing from them (as mentioned here). Again, the narcissism is amazing.

Spoiler: Images

PMD Kecleon:

Kecleon from the show:

PK:

Well, that's my input.

Also, um, hi?

 

[MayMay]

You know, that thing about the silver ninetales that wasn't even shiny reminded me of something.

PK tended to make a fuss over "inaccurate" designs, I think there was some about a white Zorua. Granted that seems a bit on the special side (fyi, shiny Zoruas merely have the red parts of their coat turn blue) but honestly, with the sheer number of Kecleons with different colours and such to the point that they barely resembled Kecleons anymore that made up PK's family, a Pokemon with white fur was hardly much of a problem. Heck, you could have had a white Zorua and just say it was from a very snowy area and it'd make more sense than the nonshiny Ninetales (after all, Arctic Foxes exist and all)

The glasses ban seemed to speak a lot about not only PK's ego ("people design something that I have personal hangups against for some reason? Well I could just let it slide since they ARE other peoples' design choice but... BAN, I must control even their creative process!") but also the screwed-up priorities of the world. Completely aesthetic hair clips? We do those! Cravats that only one Pokemon even wears? Well duh, absolutely! Actually useful thing that gives short-sighted people a chance to actually see shit? ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Half wish someone did a troll character that was short sighted and worked for the merchants but couldn't function very well because PK took his/her glasses away.

IIRC given the issues with Mike and Crayon-chewer (apparently left because it was "too much work" but... I don't think they ever talked with PK afterwards so knowing the latter, it's probably more) and that the rogues had at least one person PK was fucking on the side, the Rescuer guild (the one that, y'know, kinda stuck to the spirit of the games?) really got fucked over at nearly all times. Not that the rogues had it much better since the Merchants had PK and therefore completely commanded the story but still, I don't think the rescuer guild actually had any notable moments outside of basically drama.

 

[has]

IIRC given the issues with Mike and Crayon-chewer (apparently left because it was "too much work" but... I don't think they ever talked with PK afterwards so knowing the latter, it's probably more) and that the rogues had at least one person PK was fucking on the side, the Rescuer guild (the one that, y'know, kinda stuck to the spirit of the games?) really got fucked over at nearly all times. Not that the rogues had it much better since the Merchants had PK and therefore completely commanded the story but still, I don't think the rescuer guild actually had any notable moments outside of basically drama.

I remember being told or reading a post somewhere that one time PK and CC were hanging out irl and working on PMDE things, CC brought up an inaccuracy between two versions of the same area on two different maps or something like that? PK completely flipped her shit, ran off to her room and started screaming.

At first after I read that I was like "naw I don't believe that, that's -too- stupid", but when I also saw a post where it was mentioned that PK and friends were having dinner during a convention, said friends were talking about things PK wasn't interested in and PK shouted "OH MY GOD, WHO FUCKING CARES?" or something to that matter.

Again, that seemed too stupid to be true, but then Eevee came into the thread and actually defended PK for doing that, saying something like "Well you have to understand, PK only sees these people a few times a year and they're all talking about stuff that doesn't matter! It felt like a waste of time." So the fact that Eevee came in to defend that means it actually happened, which started making me think the thing about Crayon Chewer being yelled at over a map difference was true. If it is true, no wonder CC ended up quitting,

 

[wheat pasta]

Can someone explain to me exactly how these 'events' would occur in the first place? This whole Pokemon Mystery Dungeon fangroup thing sounds pretty ridiculous on its own, I'm not even sure how they'd pull off events. Mass roleplaying session or something?

 

[Hazazel]

Can someone explain to me exactly how these 'events' would occur in the first place? This whole Pokemon Mystery Dungeon fangroup thing sounds pretty ridiculous on its own, I'm not even sure how they'd pull off events. Mass roleplaying session or something?

The admins, in-character, would put out prompts within a certain context (ex: everybody got sick from the cold, doctor NPC tells teams to collect ingredients for making a medicine), and then every member of the group would draw or write out how their own team executed the prompt. It worked very well as far as the members were concerned, because some of the members' contributions were cool and many wrote decent, consistent stories for their Pokemon characters. I think the downfall of the group was due to PK herself (she didn't need to close the group, but she did because when the new admins came in, the way they run it did not satisfy her ego).

Well, that's my input.

I genuinely feel so sorry for you. Talking about a person in that way... In front of the concerned person themselves. Wow, do these people have any real actual idea how human emotions and empathy operate? They are awful. Thank you for confirming once more that my dislike (and other people's dislike) for PK is well placed.

 

[MayMay]

Mine too.

Also I think one of the other faults probably was an overarching storyline... as headed by PK. Remembering that regardless of contribution it seemed like the only ones that actually affected the plot were the guild leaders... which meant almost always PK and crew since the rescuers didn't get shit.

If anything, you'd think THAT would be a great award for getting the best entry: having your team have a notable hand in whatever even it was. For instance, one with a rampaging Kyurem (as discovered by guess who) the winners could have been the ones that'd "canonically" stop its rampage. Either that or not really having a story: just set out some tasks, have people do it, feature winner and the other prize too. Also means that if you get burned out on it you can just set someone else in charge with very little difference made.

But given who the REAL main character was, it feels to me like it was meant less as a group activity and more like using the group as an audience to her own story with some well done but in the end meaningless contributions thrown in.

 

[Meowthkip]

PK and Eevee were raging bigots to Autistics, but the second it became cool suddenly, "I'm Autistic, you guys!".

Boy oh boy, you are on the wrong forum to be calling out people on that. This place is built on a foundation of autism jokes. Also, don't powerlevel. Your life story is not relevant, and it's not necessary to include. I say this to spare you further embarrassment in the future.

... Although, the information you provided was interesting. My my, PK, telling the sperg how the 'tism works and being condescending to them? That's not very SJ of you.

Some might even consider that extremely problematic.

 

[Funnybone]

@TheInfamousJ
My God, those caps.
More people need to see these caps.

 

[MayMay]

Boy oh boy, you are on the wrong forum to be calling out people on that. This place is built on a foundation of autism jokes.

Though how many Kiwis later diagnose themselves as Autistic? I think that's the bit TheInfamousJ is bothered about.

 

[TheInfamousJ]

Boy oh boy, you are on the wrong forum to be calling out people on that. This place is built on a foundation of autism jokes. Also, don't powerlevel. Your life story is not relevant, and it's not necessary to include. I say this to spare you further embarrassment in the future.

... Although, the information you provided was interesting. My my, PK, telling the sperg how the 'tism works and being condescending to them? That's not very SJ of you.

My "life story" was hidden behind a spoiler merely to point out the levels of how awful it was. Merely because it's hysterically hypocritical that they now use the label when that used to be their attitude about it. And after all, what are tumblrinas if not raging hypocrites to actual victims, right? (It was also a good point of note to put an actual sufferer vs. the tumblr crowd of "I'm so oppressed, guys!")

I know the forum's views on Autism. I wrote it for a few reasons, but the main one was how they use the excuse all the time now that "they have Autism, don't criticize!" when they hold the belief that Autistics can't even have opinions.
Just goes to show how much of a show it is for them. Just for their attention and ego, as it always is. As well, it shows how their fans who worship the ground they walk on and defend their "they have Autism" excuse are raging hypocrites as well (LexyEevee as well). Also, again, there's the Satoshi Tajiri thing, which shows how disrespectful they are to the very people they rip off, while screaming how no one respects them and everyone rips them off (one of those floraverse is just a charmander with leaves. I mean it's not even subtle). And also, so that anyone who happens to stumble upon this forum will get a reference, as well.
Which is important.

One of the biggest things Tumblr-ites love to do is talk over actual victims and then preach how oppressive everything is, why not point out that hypocrisy? Because I'd bet good money if I contacted PK about the Autism thing they'd deny it or hide behind themselves, and throw a fit. Say I was being a bigot or something. Pretty sure that's relevant, and adds to the lolcowism. I'm only here to put in my 2 cents.

Oh, also, right, as an educated Autistic I wanted to chime in on this, it is true that women are less likely to be diagnosed with Autism, but it has nothing to do with bigotry (how like tumblr to see a statistic that seems biased against women and not even look into the variables) what is the cause is women exhibit Autism differently, it does not effect women as heavily as it effects men.

(Incoming logical/scientific discussion of Autism, brace yourself people.)

Spoiler: Autism Discussion, I Know, Breathe In And Out, It'll Be OK

All Autism is, well high functioning Autism, is an overactive brain. It just produces way more energy. And vents that in different ways (each very varying, some people have literally no symptoms at all, some people have symptoms and don't have Autism). Women are more able to filter more activity, their brains are made for it. Women have much more active brains. They have more white matter then men, which handles the speed and flow of information. Women also have a higher grasp of subtlety and languages due to it. Because of this the traits don't show up as much in Autistic women, and they can seem fundamentally normal, and most women don't get it checked. Or people don't catch it at all.

Also, as an aside, Autism can manifest in a multitude of ways, as it is literally just the brain being more active and trying to vent that. Someone can have Autism and none of the symptoms, some can not have Autism and have all of the symptoms. It is literally impossible to be self-diagnosed. Even a professional couldn't do it.

Why does this matter?

Because one of the reasons PK says they have Autism is because they would tap their fingers, rock back and forth, and hand wringing when upset. Keeping in mind that Autism is just the brain venting excess energy (because it consistently has too much), and that normal brains can have excess energy as well (if they don't vent the energy through activities), and all of those behaviors are common to people who constantly sit behind a computer screen and don't move around much (Sound familiar?). Which, shockingly, isn't very good for you!

(How much do you want to bet PK would flip out if told that their behavior was common to people who don't take care of themselves well? I mean, you know, considering their behavior on that usually.) Also, pretty sure most people wring their wrists if they get angry. Especially if they take everything as seriously as they do.

Also, because Tumblrinas would flip the fuck out about hearing that gasp yes, female and male brains are in fact genetically different!

Sources:
http://www.webmd.com/balance/features/how-male-female-brains-differ?page=2
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/01/050121100142.htm
http://www.healthline.com/health-news/mental-mens-and-womens-brains-wired-differently-120713

Also, there is a more personal side tangent, but having Autism isn't a fucking excuse for bad behavior, it's an awareness of what to work on. I would say "why do Tumblrinas always bank on that excuse", but I know why, because they always want to be the victims (while silencing the victims, like true hypocrites), all while have an excuse for their bad behavior and to call everyone who criticizes them "bigots".

I love that they scream about "appropriation"and "silencing" when they pull this shit all the time.

It's just to point out the hypocrisy, nothing more. Worry not, I'm not looking for sympathy. Just adding to the lolcowism.

TL;DR: PK has no idea, (surprise!) what they're talking about and screamed like a maniac and (apparently) broke down crying because "THEY'RE SO AUTISTIC GUYS" because of completely normal behavior. GG.

Also, I find it relevant again to mention in the behavior PK and Eevee showed they kept saying they knew more then professionals (multiple professionals, by the way) because they "watched people". Like out right. It really goes to show how arrogant and full of themselves they are, and how they believe their small experiences matter more then anyone else's (including people who went to school for it).

PK tended to make a fuss over "inaccurate" designs, I think there was some about a white Zorua. Granted that seems a bit on the special side (fyi, shiny Zoruas merely have the red parts of their coat turn blue) but honestly, with the sheer number of Kecleons with different colours and such to the point that they barely resembled Kecleons anymore that made up PK's family, a Pokemon with white fur was hardly much of a problem. Heck, you could have had a white Zorua and just say it was from a very snowy area and it'd make more sense than the nonshiny Ninetales (after all, Arctic Foxes exist and all)

I recall that, yeah. In the sake of fairness that was indeed kind of the Zorua's fault, but PK also handled it terribly. The Zorua was the color of its parent, a Ninetales (ironically), and that wasn't permitted. What was even dumber about that fiasco is Zorua are one of very few Pokemon (Zorua, Zoroark, Kecleon, Ditto) that can change their appearance at will. If they had, say, made it a plot point that he used illusions to make his fur look like his parent because he wanted to be like them, that'd make sense. And be totally permissible. Or make the red on his fur the color of Vulpix's. They did not. Also, in defense of PK (ugh), Kecleon can change every part of its body color wise except the band. That's canon and a mechanic.

And it was FAIR if you had a Pokemon that could do that on your team, you could do it as well.

But! PK drew a picture mocking said member, but they didn't draw their Zorua, no, they drew their oshawott (who by the way had glasses). (Which they seemed to do from time to time. Them and their friends.)

Found it:
http://purplekecleon.tumblr.com/post/14007956001/dogshawott

Archive: https://archive.is/6faKP

(By the way, the user was never as obnoxious as PK acted like they were.)

Oh my goodness, they didn't let it go and mocked it again:
http://purplekecleon.tumblr.com/post/37179457329/dogs

Archive: https://archive.is/71LHR

Are they mocking people using the same muzzles for non-dog things? I mean, is PK of all people really doing that? Miss same face themself?

This person holds on to the most petty things, I swear.

Also, side note, why would you join the group?
http://purplekecleon.tumblr.com/post/36834182904/omfg-this-is-why-i-run-pmd-e

Archive: https://archive.is/yo13y

Ah, yes, didn't PK say something about encouraging new artists? You can see so much of that here!

Unless you're talking about the albino zorua, which was also a fiasco. Albinoes weren't permitted, nor were major changes to Pokemon (regions could influence things, but very little, maybe it'd be a lighter grey, etc).

So I mean that was all sides being messed up.

The hypocrisy wasn't PK being purple, or Kecleons not being green (which happens, they can change the entirety of their markings to anything, except the band).

It was this shit:

Spoiler: Shit Ton Of Images, I'm Sorry

This one was a friend's character.

That's a whole other species of chameleon. I have to wonder if it'd be permitted if that was a member who made that.

Clothing was considered a big no-no (it's worth noting these are the accessories people, but still), and I don't think patches on the face like that were permitted.

Also, on the subject of PK's art, and earlier anatomy, they're not too great at beast anatomy, either.

Spoiler: Image

That is painful to look at. And it's literally just a four legged animal. By the way, those are inserts of their cats. She went on to be engaged to and bone one of them (as for some reason he desperately wanted to be in her pants).

Spoiler: NSFW

And here's their porn drawing of their self insert boning their cat's self insert. (I'm actually starting to worry if those claims of bestiality are true.)

Also there was a guy who used to be adored who drew a Pikachu and a Buneary with giant tits and ass and drew every character with balls (which was a terrible joke, but whatever), and at first PK and co. adored him (he was winning a lot, got comments from the admins a lot, etc.). Then some drama went down, and PK put a ban on all characters with more human figures and breasts and such. Which is fine (I never particularly liked it and found it questionable in a group that allowed all ages), but I'm pretty sure it happened entirely due to the fall out with the guy or just because they "change their mind" or something. This stuff happened a lot, too.

Brainstorming wise? I see her mention every now and then how she and Marl brainstormed something that day. I don't know which stuff Eevee had a hand in, except maybe those conjoined pink gel rabbits(NWS!) made for his own masturbation fodder.

OK, that really reminds me of Garnet from SU. Except, you know, less varied and well designed.

Also, I forgot about this but I met an admin from another Pokemon group (a really popular one, if you know DA Pokemon groups, you probably know this one) and they spoke about how PK joined the group and apparently flipped out the group wasn't as much about Pokemon as they wanted it to be (it was a group about Pokemon trainers, so of course.) It's also worth noting this group totally allows being an anthro Pokemon trainer (that's how whiny they are). And apparently they sent Marl to go off on the group, as apparently, despite not being a member to my knowledge he complained the group didn't have enough to do with Pokemon and was awful and what have you. PK seemed to hint that their new Pokemon group (PMD-E) was the best Pokemon group EVER and that this other group is the reason they founded it.

Journal found:
http://pmd-explorers.deviantart.com/journal/A-Goodbye-384740037

Archive: https://archive.is/Vo7e0

(Second poster.) Listen to that passive aggression.

" Well.. in the beginning, I made the group because I was tired of there being no place to go and “compete” while still having fun, and because there were no places that didn’t kick people out for “losing” -- I thought this was stupid, after having lost for a stupid reason. Yep! So, I wanted to make a group where you could never be kicked out of participation after having been kicked out myself. I didn’t find that fun, to not be able to keep going with everyone! Can you blame me? I didn’t like that feeling, found it stupid and discouraging, and wanted to make a place where that feeling wouldn’t exist in the same way at all. I wanted a place where people could feel inspired to do better, but not where they would feel left out and left behind. I hated that feeling, and I suspected many others did, too.

I ended up coming up with a loose little story after diving in and making the group one day. No one really knew about it yet, but it was listed on my dA profile, and some people had begun to ask me. I pulled some close friends-- and some not-so-close friends-- aside, asking if they wanted to help. Many did! And I’ve gotten a lot closer to several people because of that simple gesture. Despite latiass being so busy with college, he helped out a good amount with stories and ideas I hadn’t thought of at all. Luvaci, otherwise known to the chatroom as Riiko--known for making Shroomsworth among others-- has been there every step of the way, challenging me when he thought I was out of line or too harsh, trying to give some outsider perspective, and overall helping me see what it was like to... not be me. Much like PK and Shroomsworth, really! In the time since this group’s been made, it’s allowed me to connect with him infinitely more than I had before, which... I really appreciated. I appreciated having someone to tell me when they disagreed, even if I did, too."

This whole thing is so fucking full of it. (Also, was PK boning Luvaci/Shroomsworth creator? It's got that vibe.)

I think the upper right goat is cute (the one with the green light bulbs, also coincidentally the one Exty designed), the face reminds me of Tonytony Chopper from One Piece.

I wish the original name "Enogoat" was kept. Gee, I wonder where she found the creativity for "Scrapgoat".

I've noticed a few people mentioning this seems original, but personally, I think it may just be based on the same thing Ampharos is. Which is a joke on the book "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"

I remember being told or reading a post somewhere that one time PK and CC were hanging out irl and working on PMDE things, CC brought up an inaccuracy between two versions of the same area on two different maps or something like that? PK completely flipped her shit, ran off to her room and started screaming.

I've heard a few times it was "due to creative differences" or PK didn't like how much control CC had over their characters (or wanted to take Chill/the rescuers in a different direction and PK didn't like it), or something. So, sounds about right.

Also, speaking of inconsistencies and terrible writing, they nerfed the member's characters to be dumber to make the Admins'/mods' characters look good in a way that just didn't even make sense. They made it canon that most people didn't know how to read and this was a rarity for the really smart elite (Marl's characters, LexyEevee's characters, and PK), but before this, missions were posted on a board, canonically, and read, and right after this there was a mission to write letters to other member's from the past. So we're, uh, sending members in the future letters they can't read? And, even later one of the guild leaders wrote a note for others in his organization to meet somewhere else, and missions remained a written format (flat out confirmed on how you selected them in the flashes).

Spoiler: Really Irrelevant Point Prover

If they can't read why is their most common way of communicating important things always writing? By the way, I'm pretty sure this was a Marl writing thing, so yeah. I mean I know it seems like a nitpick, but if you're wondering why Floraverse is all over the place, it's very likely it's just incapable of not being so.

By the way, they brought back two characters without the original creator's consent. Mike and Chill (Mike and CC's characters respectfully).

the rogues had at least one person PK was fucking on the side, the Rescuer guild (the one that, y'know, kinda stuck to the spirit of the games?) really got fucked over at nearly all times. Not that the rogues had it much better since the Merchants had PK and therefore completely commanded the story but still, I don't think the rescuer guild actually had any notable moments outside of basically drama.

This is really accurate, yeah. Things were supposed to be influenced by how well the members did, but it was such a farce (it was so obviously rigged), and surprise, surprise, the merchants almost always won. (And the rogues were depicted well enough, and usually came in a close second or succeeded if it didn't hinder the Merchants, due to Marl. If the rescuers did succeed it was only because everyone else did, too, and with the loss of something, and then taken from them later. Almost always.)

This about sums it up, really.

Spoiler: Big Image

I don't think the rescuers really ever won anything, really. Maybe early on, when missions were unrelated to each other and missions had to do with what team you joined (when it seemed more like actually taking missions off a board to help certain people with requests, more like it was in the original games).

The treatment only seemed to get worse after more and more rescuer admins had a fall out with PK, more of that the whole group suffers for a few (not matter how valid those few complaints were). It seemed like they were spiting all rescuers because they felt the moderators had spited them, so they all deserved to suffer by extension. They were at fault, too. (Not to say it was good before, but man they were flat out malicious to rescuers later.)

The real irony is though, because they weren't the favorite, the Rescuers writing wise seemed to be more tolerable (with the exception of Mike, but even then they at least acknowledged fault in his actions). They had faults, and character growth, and could actually be quite likable at times. Some of them were nice, and lacked the snark. At least for a while (and not to the extent the other two did). But no seriously, if you want to rig it just say so, or write your own comic, don't pretend it's not rigged.

Er, sorry for the long post. Just wanted to get more details out there.

Edit:

Though how many Kiwis later diagnose themselves as Autistic? I think that's the bit TheInfamousJ is bothered about.

Yep!

 

[Malady Twigs]

I remember reading somewhere that PK posted in a private twitter account that she didn't like how 'girly' Milk's friends were and I think she was pretty vocal about that. I also believe PK is fiercely competitive with women-- I mean, her partners need to have their girlfriends LIVE with them before they can even sleep with someone, and I remember someone asking about Marl's girlfriend and PK was really pissy about it and said it wasn't their business.

Oh, my God, I saw that as well. What a prejudiced thing to say, too. For an SJW who makes it to a point that she always has more female characters than male, she sure acted pretty sexist towards Milk's friends. It's funny because Milk herself has always displayed a lot of femininity and "girlishness" in her art. What a fucking hypocrite.

I had no idea about the way she treated her partners' girlfriends. It's like PK really wants to be the leading alpha female of the bunch, preferably the ONLY one. She is allowed to have whichever and how many parters she wants, but her boytoys? No, in their cases there must be quality control inspection in order for them to be allowed other relationships.

Then again, they deserve it for putting up with PK's bullshit to the point they rabidly defend her stupidest actions. And not like they aren't full of bullshit themselves either.

Then in the one of the journals, Marl posted this:

Spoiler: More Images of Hypocrisy

Now, first of all the fact that he's acting so defensive like this is a huge red flag, and saying multiples are full of it is an even bigger one.

It's interesting how Marl sounds like such an egotistical, aloof individual in this post. He's using this super serious and mature tone, and then, suddenly, completely diss people by saying "it's their nature, not a good one, but they probably can't help it". So full of himself. He thinks he's really dealing with dumb children all the time, all high and mighty. Then again, he lives with PK and Eevee, so he has a pretty biased view on what people are like.

I always got this strange vibe from Marl. Cool and collected, and this is why I said his apparent maturity makes him the most "dangerous" one in the group. Then, I remember how nice and polite he was in the podcast. This shift in behavior really reminds me of sociopaths. I can't say Marl is one, but the label doesn't seem that quite off (until we get more evidence that he's just weird and overflowing with stupidity like his partners).

He really is like that Callahan charater from PMD-E. A capricious, cynical fox (with some really bizarre kinks to boot).

Spoiler: Sincerely Long Post

I want to warn everyone that if you do have Autism, this can be genuinely triggering for you, and not in the tumblr way. I mean possibly trigger panic attacks. We good? We good.

I'm pretty sure I didn't know what she meant by "diagnosed" or I was startled. I have a no lying policy, so my response kind of confuses me earlier.

What fascinates me the most about these chats is seeing how delusional both PK and Eevee are. They truly, actually believe they have any grasp on how people and relationships work in real life. Eevee even reaches retarded levels of psychotic belief and backs up his claims by saying that he's been on the fucking INTERNET for a decade, so, of course, he'd know more about mental illnesses then experienced trained professionals and the people (and their families) who suffer from those conditions. You know, I've heard of this thing called "real life", but, nah, it probably isn't a very legitimate source on how people behave; better trust Wikipedia and my many interactions with trolls.

They also display a total lack of empathy and appropriate social etiquette by talking about someone's problems in front of them, like they are some guinea pig in a lab cage, ignoring them completely, as if they were not there or just incapable of understanding their very deep, scientific discussion.

Also, wow, PK mentions "neurons". That quote reminded me so much of Idiocracy I couldn't help but giggle.

You know, that thing about the silver ninetales that wasn't even shiny reminded me of something.

PK tended to make a fuss over "inaccurate" designs, I think there was some about a white Zorua. Granted that seems a bit on the special side (fyi, shiny Zoruas merely have the red parts of their coat turn blue) but honestly, with the sheer number of Kecleons with different colours and such to the point that they barely resembled Kecleons anymore that made up PK's family, a Pokemon with white fur was hardly much of a problem. Heck, you could have had a white Zorua and just say it was from a very snowy area and it'd make more sense than the nonshiny Ninetales (after all, Arctic Foxes exist and all)

The glasses ban seemed to speak a lot about not only PK's ego ("people design something that I have personal hangups against for some reason? Well I could just let it slide since they ARE other peoples' design choice but... BAN, I must control even their creative process!") but also the screwed-up priorities of the world. Completely aesthetic hair clips? We do those! Cravats that only one Pokemon even wears? Well duh, absolutely! Actually useful thing that gives short-sighted people a chance to actually see shit? ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Half wish someone did a troll character that was short sighted and worked for the merchants but couldn't function very well because PK took his/her glasses away.

IIRC given the issues with Mike and Crayon-chewer (apparently left because it was "too much work" but... I don't think they ever talked with PK afterwards so knowing the latter, it's probably more) and that the rogues had at least one person PK was fucking on the side, the Rescuer guild (the one that, y'know, kinda stuck to the spirit of the games?) really got fucked over at nearly all times. Not that the rogues had it much better since the Merchants had PK and therefore completely commanded the story but still, I don't think the rescuer guild actually had any notable moments outside of basically drama.

I remember being told or reading a post somewhere that one time PK and CC were hanging out irl and working on PMDE things, CC brought up an inaccuracy between two versions of the same area on two different maps or something like that? PK completely flipped her shit, ran off to her room and started screaming.

PK's foolishness never ceases to amaze me. To be that involved with a silly (supposedly) family-friendly roleplay that she excuses her fursonas but everyone else gets shit, purposefully rigging the game to prevent people from submitting in time, the biased favouritism, the mary-sueish self-insertions... She acted like the biggest child there. Her "bad art" vengeance on people who have annoyed her also further proves what a dumb kid she really is.

I kind of feel sorry for CC. Guy doesn't seem to be bad. I also remember Chill the Minccino was the creation of CC. When Chill came back in the story, he was suddenly without his trademarked sunglasses. I remember PK saying that she had removed the character's glasses because she wanted characters that were more than a "gimmick". I had no idea CC had dropped off of the group. Now that I know, I understand her infantile reaction.

At first after I read that I was like "naw I don't believe that, that's -too- stupid", but when I also saw a post where it was mentioned that PK and friends were having dinner during a convention, said friends were talking about things PK wasn't interested in and PK shouted "OH MY GOD, WHO FUCKING CARES?" or something to that matter.

Again, that seemed too stupid to be true, but then Eevee came into the thread and actually defended PK for doing that, saying something like "Well you have to understand, PK only sees these people a few times a year and they're all talking about stuff that doesn't matter! It felt like a waste of time." So the fact that Eevee came in to defend that means it actually happened, which started making me think the thing about Crayon Chewer being yelled at over a map difference was true. If it is true, no wonder CC ended up quitting,

Ah, haha, I had completely forgotten about that! A child throwing a temper tantrum, what a great way to make a fool of yourself. Her immature outbursts border Dobson's flinging of things at people spoiling children's books.

No, PK, you were absolutely right! No one cares about the subject everyone BUT YOU is talking about! What a loudmouthed brat this girl is, she really deserves some smacking from daddy for punishment. People mollycoddle her way too much. She urgently needs to learn how to properly live in society, away from the irrational asspats of her fans and boytoys.

 

[Galaxy Harasser]

Well, that's my input.

Welcome! Also, holy shit. My condolences with what you went through. As if my views on PK and her ilk couldn't get more negative.

Flora also has these events like PMDE had. I remember the first was "Gourmet Gauntlet", but that was months ago and never really heard more about it. Another event that takes place after Itchy Itchy that's to end next month is the one with the three different quests people can do. Biff's had people putting magic party hats on corpses to reanimate them so they can be disposed of. I'm not kidding. I forget the other two.

Of course this being basically backdrop for PK and her buds to roleplay their genderfluid fursonas, the rules are more lax, but regardless PK moved the plot forward so she can do more self-fellating over Beleth. So peoples characters participating in whatever the Itchy Itchy quests are really behind on the plot.

That whole pic with the Jigglypuff and the feather hair clip could've been easily solved if PK switched the characters around, so the Jigglypuff is in PK's left side. Planning helps.

 

[TheInfamousJ]

You know, I've heard of this thing called "real life", but, nah, it probably isn't a very legitimate source on how people behave; better trust Wikipedia and my many interactions with trolls.

Ha! I got a genuinely good chuckle out of that one, thank you.

What fascinates me the most about these chats is seeing how delusional both PK and Eevee are. They truly, actually believe they have any grasp on how people and relationships work in real life. Eevee even reaches retarded levels of psychotic belief and backs up his claims by saying that he's been on the fucking INTERNET for a decade, so, of course, he'd know more about mental illnesses then experienced trained professionals and the people (and their families) who suffer from those conditions.

Yeah, it's actually kind of horrifying just how delusional PK and Eevee are. What I find even more horrifying is how quickly they switch between being that way and claiming they weren't saying anything awful at all, and how the other person takes things too personally/doesn't understand. Just immediately turn everything on you, and then flip back to saying those things, and if you defend yourself go back to making it about how it's your fault, and you're awful. I mention this because a lot of people do that, but just not usually in the same conversation, with in two sentences of each other. It's like they think it's so normal. Like they're that delusional.

Pengo may be a bit neurotic himself, but I don't think he was wrong when he brought up the gaslighting (I mean one of the things PK flipped out about was someone who's parent had died didn't have time to make their prints and called in a favor. Did you see how much they flipped out over it?) and the manipulative behavior, as well (going by their behavior in PMD-E). I mean look how quickly they go from dehumanizing someone to saying they're taking everything too seriously (or how they'll say they're just joking and then ban you for what they were "just joking about" or even worse post a public post shaming you or vying for your harassment, as with Pengo and Mike. To be constantly around that must be damaging to your mental health, it can't be good for you), or how their points don't matter due to an unrelated reason.

Pengo may have blown it out of proportion, but I don't doubt abuse happened based on my experience with PK and other's.

I always got this strange vibe from Marl. Cool and collected, and this is why I said his apparent maturity makes him the most "dangerous" one in the group. Then, I remember how nice and polite he was in the podcast. This shift in behavior really reminds me of sociopaths. I can't say Marl is one, but the label doesn't seem that quite off (until we get more evidence that he's just weird and overflowing with stupidity like his partners).

Yeah, Marl seems to lack that childish "never grew out of 15 year old passive aggressive childish" mentality PK and Eevee have. This genuinely makes him seem at times even worse.

But I always wondered if part of what was feeling inadequate. He may be polite around PK because he's genuinely terrified to be. I feel like he's overcompensating, I think he always feels inadequate around Eevee and for good reason, PK genuinely seems to like Eevee more, and Eevee can publicly do more, including host her sites. Things PK can not do. People know Eevee, people only know Marl as that guy who's married to PK (regardless of being a writer or not). That being said, I genuinely would not be surprised if they're all sociopaths. But Marl seems to have some genuine affection for PK (which only makes it sadder, really (but that does not excuse his actions)), so he may just be really full of himself. Or it could be he doesn't feel like he has much power in his relationship/his life so he vents it everywhere he can, which isn't uncommon for people in unhealthy relationships. His power is an extension of PK so he seems to unleash it on everyone else, to almost compensate for his lack of own power (or maybe to desperately prove he has some worth to PK). Of course, that's just a theory.

I'm actually genuinely kind of worried this is going to end in something horrible someday, and something really bad is going to happen to one of them.

Eevee seems as awful as PK, and I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if the guy is a total sociopath (going after the girl that Marl had sex with when PK was upset (if they were as visibly upset as they said they were (and considering it's PK and their theatrics, that's very likely)), , shows he doesn't have as much care for PK, or really much empathy at all, even though PK is the only person he shows any care for at all). And PK is PK.

I genuinely feel so sorry for you. Talking about a person in that way... In front of the concerned person themselves. Wow, do these people have any real actual idea how human emotions and empathy operate? They are awful. Thank you for confirming once more that my dislike (and other people's dislike) for PK is well placed.

Also, holy shit. My condolences with what you went through. As if my views on PK and her ilk couldn't get more negative.

Thank you, both. I won't lie, it hurt a lot when it happened (and to be honest, for a long while after).

But what really upset me was I wasn't the only one, and I didn't screenshot, but a rather popular member got a message from someone about how he joined the IRC chat and got awful treatment for his Autism and how he blamed himself, and felt awful. He was practically in tears, goodness, I felt so bad for him (and he blamed himself, the poor guy. What made it worse was he was obviously a guy aware of his Autism and was trying to work on it. And they tore him apart, and he wasn't used to it enough to know it wasn't his fault).

As mentioned before, I've no doubt Pengo's claims had some validity, no matter how overstated.

But now, I'm able to look at it now and really realize the irony in talking about how a group of people don't understand things, don't understand empathy, and "make irrelevant points that don't make sense/add up" when they're exhibiting all those traits.

Also, I distinctly recall a ton of journals reminding/asking people to use the IRC channel. Because apparently people didn't like to use it much. (Also, I would like to re-iterate, PK went through the chat logs of when they weren't online and asked me about something I said when they weren't online. That's so narcissistic and crazy.) Gee, I wonder why.

Journals in question:
http://pmd-explorers.deviantart.com/journal/Chat-IRC-218355159 (This was linked in the posted journals on the main page, also I believe the chat was also linked on the main page.)
Archive: https://archive.is/s9XwZ
http://pmd-explorers.deviantart.com/journal/Just-a-reminder-We-have-an-IRC-channel-309881033
Archive: https://archive.is/6lS5m
http://pmd-explorers.deviantart.com/journal/PMD-e-IRC-Chat-reminder-335251981
Archive: https://archive.is/wI9q3

Welcome!

Also, hi!

 

[1d4]

Ha! I got a genuinely good chuckle out of that one, thank you.



Yeah, it's actually kind of horrifying just how delusional PK and Eevee are. What I find even more horrifying is how quickly they switch between being that way and claiming they weren't saying anything awful at all, and how the other person takes things too personally/doesn't understand. Just immediately turn everything on you, and then flip back to saying those things, and if you defend yourself go back to making it about how it's your fault, and you're awful. I mention this because a lot of people do that, but just not usually in the same conversation, with in two sentences of each other. It's like they think it's so normal. Like they're that delusional.

Pengo may be a bit neurotic himself, but I don't think he was wrong when he brought up the gaslighting (I mean one of the things PK flipped out about was someone who's parent had died didn't have time to make their prints and called in a favor. Did you see how much they flipped out over it?) and the manipulative behavior, as well (going by their behavior in PMD-E). I mean look how quickly they go from dehumanizing someone to saying they're taking everything too seriously (or how they'll say they're just joking and then ban you for what they were "just joking about" or even worse post a public post shaming you or vying for your harassment, as with Pengo and Mike. To be constantly around that must be damaging to your mental health, it can't be good for you), or how their points don't matter due to an unrelated reason.

Pengo may have blown it out of proportion, but I don't doubt abuse happened based on my experience with PK and other's.



Yeah, Marl seems to lack that childish "never grew out of 15 year old passive aggressive childish" mentality PK and Eevee have. This genuinely makes him seem at times even worse.

But I always wondered if part of what was feeling inadequate. He may be polite around PK because he's genuinely terrified to be. I feel like he's overcompensating, I think he always feels inadequate around Eevee and for good reason, PK genuinely seems to like Eevee more, and Eevee can publicly do more, including host her sites. Things PK can not do. People know Eevee, people only know Marl as that guy who's married to PK (regardless of being a writer or not). That being said, I genuinely would not be surprised if they're all sociopaths. But Marl seems to have some genuine affection for PK (which only makes it sadder, really (but that does not excuse his actions)), so he may just be really full of himself. Or it could be he doesn't feel like he has much power in his relationship/his life so he vents it everywhere he can, which isn't uncommon for people in unhealthy relationships. His power is an extension of PK so he seems to unleash it on everyone else, to almost compensate for his lack of own power (or maybe to desperately prove he has some worth to PK). Of course, that's just a theory.

I'm actually genuinely kind of worried this is going to end in something horrible someday, and something really bad is going to happen to one of them.

Eevee seems as awful as PK, and I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if the guy is a total sociopath (going after the girl that Marl had sex with when PK was upset (if they were as visibly upset as they said they were (and considering it's PK and their theatrics, that's very likely)), , shows he doesn't have as much care for PK, or really much empathy at all, even though PK is the only person he shows any care for at all). And PK is PK.




Thank you, both. I won't lie, it hurt a lot when it happened (and to be honest, for a long while after).

But what really upset me was I wasn't the only one, and I didn't screenshot, but a rather popular member got a message from someone about how he joined the IRC chat and got awful treatment for his Autism and how he blamed himself, and felt awful. He was practically in tears, goodness, I felt so bad for him (and he blamed himself, the poor guy. What made it worse was he was obviously a guy aware of his Autism and was trying to work on it. And they tore him apart, and he wasn't used to it enough to know it wasn't his fault).

As mentioned before, I've no doubt Pengo's claims had some validity, no matter how overstated.

But now, I'm able to look at it now and really realize the irony in talking about how a group of people don't understand things, don't understand empathy, and "make irrelevant points that don't make sense/add up" when they're exhibiting all those traits.

Also, I distinctly recall a ton of journals reminding/asking people to use the IRC channel. Because apparently people didn't like to use it much. (Also, I would like to re-iterate, PK went through the chat logs of when they weren't online and asked me about something I said when they weren't online. That's so narcissistic and crazy.) Gee, I wonder why.

Journals in question:
http://pmd-explorers.deviantart.com/journal/Chat-IRC-218355159 (This was linked in the posted journals on the main page, also I believe the chat was also linked on the main page.)
http://pmd-explorers.deviantart.com/journal/Just-a-reminder-We-have-an-IRC-channel-309881033
http://pmd-explorers.deviantart.com/journal/PMD-e-IRC-Chat-reminder-335251981


Also, hi!

this sounds disturbingly like a pseudo-cult and/or a cult of personality

ALSO, here's archive.is links for every link you put in your posts relating to PK and the group, juuust in case

Spoiler: autism

http://7th-petal.deviantart.com/art/Team-RolleyPolley-Mission-6-3-300265996
https://archive.is/SrntE

http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/Slush-267887622
https://archive.is/Tt2ul

http://pmd-explorers.deviantart.com/journal/A-Goodbye-384740037
https://archive.is/Vo7e0

http://pmd-explorers.deviantart.com/journal/On-NPC-Suggestions-262863216
https://archive.is/S039g

http://comments.deviantart.com/1/290954538/2461459333?offset=0#comments
https://archive.is/QC03w

http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/Team-Scrappy-261974486
https://archive.is/xZAEF

http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/The-Dismal-Duo-261975857
https://archive.is/ZIe5p

http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/White-Trash-Circus-261971713
https://archive.is/eCejt

http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/Team-Valhalla-261796266
https://archive.is/gHykR

http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/Half-Winter-Downs-261793161
https://archive.is/jPxmW

http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/M3-Winners-281433249
https://archive.is/CUaDM

http://comments.deviantart.com/1/281442321/2383841029
https://archive.is/TTtTe

http://purplekecleon.tumblr.com/post/14007956001/dogshawott
https://archive.is/6faKP

http://purplekecleon.tumblr.com/post/37179457329/dogs
https://archive.is/71LHR

http://purplekecleon.tumblr.com/post/36834182904/omfg-this-is-why-i-run-pmd-e
https://archive.is/yo13y

http://pmd-explorers.deviantart.com/journal/Chat-IRC-218355159
https://archive.is/s9XwZ

http://pmd-explorers.deviantart.com/journal/Just-a-reminder-We-have-an-IRC-channel-309881033
https://archive.is/6lS5m

http://pmd-explorers.deviantart.com/journal/PMD-e-IRC-Chat-reminder-335251981
https://archive.is/wI9q3

 

[Meowthkip]

By the way, those are inserts of their cats. She went on to be engaged to and bone one of them (as for some reason he desperately wanted to be in her pants).

Spoiler

And here's their porn drawing of their self insert boning their cat's self insert. (I'm actually starting to worry if those claims of bestiality are true.)

... Wait, what the fuck? She drew porn of herself getting fucked by a Persian representing her own cat?

Spoiler

Also, @TheInfamousJ I did not want to sound accusatory on the powerleveling thing, and while I certainly appreciate that you spoiler'd it, I only brought it up due to it being something of a rampant problem here on the boards. Lord knows I've been guilty of it, just speaking sperg to sperg here. Just trying to cut down on it for everybody's sakes.

But though your posts are long as shit, damn if they're not filled with a buttload of content. Please, provide us with more content on why PK is such a huge bitch.