Plagued Consoomers / Consoomer Culture - Because if it has a recogniseable brand on it, I’d buy it!

[Kier]

Depends. Some people will argue they are hobbies and they enjoy the thing itself, not the brand. But it can still get excessive
I used a site in the past called Fragrantica, it's an online perfume database that is a great tool for finding new aftershave, maybe something a bit different as it lists perfumes based on notes, suggest similar things, etc. It's a pretty great tool for that imo, but it has a forum section where people discuss perfume, and there are youtube channels exclusively for perfume (unrealted to Fragrantica) and the "fragrance community" as a whole is pretty fucking bad for encouraging consumerism, they say it's becuase they like the product itself, but they have "wardrobes" where you can list your collection. People can have 200+ bottles of perfume they "Love".
How the fuck can anyone wear 200+ bottles of perfume? Perfume has an expiration date (they claim it does not) but even if that were true you can't use up 200 bottles, but people seemed to justify and encourage it. Some perfumes cost $20, others will cost you several hundred. I just can't see that community as healthy when ot encourages people to purchase more than they can use.

For reference I have around 15 bottles, it's too much. People justify it by saying you break it up between night/day and depending on season and occasion, but it's still too much imo. Time spent wearing 1 is time spent not wearing the other 14, which can make sense as some stuff wouldn't work at all in summer. But it actually becomes a hassle when you have too many options and it means you either don't use things you really love, or you do and you're left with a bunch of things you don't really care for.

I absolutely agree. The people who own 900 Funkos probably justify it with 'I love all of these characters' . All I meant was that having a hobby based around a product or brand is fine as long as it stays below a somewhat arbitrary but 'know it when you see it' line of being pathetic or an obsession. Enjoying Nintendo products is great, as long as the brand doesn't become your identity or you don't purchase everything you see. Having a fragrance collection is totally fine as long as it is kept under some level of control. Building a community around a product you enjoy is not an inherently bad thing. It does go hand in hand with obsessions that are much more ugly though. After all, it is hard to find groups these days with most small-town-esque local communities being constantly devalued. Any community that actively encourages spending beyond your means or spending excessive money on things with zero utility or value is unhealthy. The people with a specific truck for off-roading probably spent a cool several hundred grand on it, but if that is what they and their friends love to do, and they have the deep bank account to responsibly make that purchase and its maintenance, then I won't judge. The car still has a value if they woke up one day and all their money was gone. My general metric that I use in my personal life is that going to a movie costs a solid 20 bucks or something and usually is a good 2 hours of fun. As long as it keeps a similar rate of 10 dollars for an hour of enjoying myself, then its fair game. Spending 10 dollars on a single figure I like a lot and is one of the few things in my dorm, cool. Now if I ever 10 dollars on the 800th figure to complete my entire room filled with nothing but figures to the point that I would never even notice the new one.... I would hope my friends would take me out back and tell me about the rabbits.

Also I have to give a complement to everyone's favorite intellectual rapist.

 

[Erika Furudo]

I absolutely agree. The people who own 900 Funkos probably justify it with 'I love all of these characters' . All I meant was that having a hobby based around a product or brand is fine as long as it stays below a somewhat arbitrary but 'know it when you see it' line of being pathetic or an obsession. Enjoying Nintendo products is great, as long as the brand doesn't become your identity or you don't purchase everything you see. Having a fragrance collection is totally fine as long as it is kept under some level of control. Building a community around a product you enjoy is not an inherently bad thing. It does go hand in hand with obsessions that are much more ugly though. After all, it is hard to find groups these days with most small-town-esque local communities being constantly devalued. Any community that actively encourages spending beyond your means or spending excessive money on things with zero utility or value is unhealthy. The people with a specific truck for off-roading probably spent a cool several hundred grand on it, but if that is what they and their friends love to do, and they have the deep bank account to responsibly make that purchase and its maintenance, then I won't judge. The car still has a value if they woke up one day and all their money was gone. My general metric that I use in my personal life is that going to a movie costs a solid 20 bucks or something and usually is a good 2 hours of fun. As long as it keeps a similar rate of 10 dollars for an hour of enjoying myself, then its fair game. Spending 10 dollars on a single figure I like a lot and is one of the few things in my dorm, cool. Now if I ever 10 dollars on the 800th figure to complete my entire room filled with nothing but figures to the point that I would never even notice the new one.... I would hope my friends would take me out back and tell me about the rabbits.

Also I have to give a complement to everyone's favorite intellectual rapist.

I agree rather than a defined number it should be based on context, and you just know yourself when it becomes wrong. Personally my justification for spending money is I don't drink, smoke or buy overpriced coffee. Everyone has some kind of wasteful habbit. I just view things in terms of alcohol as there is a big drinking culture. If you're paying £2.50 for a pint and most people have atleast 5 pints on friday and another £5 on saturday, thats £25 a week or £100 per month, and that's a conservative estimate based only on 1 common spending habbit.
Personally I don't get the appeal of figures, mainly due to them taking up desk space. If you like them and don't have an entire room filled with them I don't see an issue, and honestly it could be a very expensive figure but as long as you budgeted accordingly I wouldn't view it as a bad thing, just not how I would spend the money. I guess we could say it's ok as long as the thing you spend money on dosn't consoom your life.

 

[Ged!]

only things worth spending money on are basic clothes, food, internet access, essential utilities, and newer vidya. Anything else is either unnecessary or can be acquired for free on the net i you know where to look

Why the fuck would you include "newer vidya". I would have basically agreed with you had you not turned this hot take into a retard take with two short words.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

What about some mechanics with the snap-on/mac/matco/cornwell consoooom?

I've known guys that live in trailers but have $30,000 tool boxes filled to the brim with snapon tools that cost at least another 30,000.

I've encountered something similar where you'll have people who live in trailer parks that drive shitty trucks who own expensive boats and insane amounts of fishing gear. Usually the boat alone is worth more than everything else they own.

But I think it's similar to what was mentioned and their boat and fishing equipment is actually serving a purpose. Presumably they're catching at least some of their food so they're getting some return on their investment. And for all I know, maybe they are financially responsible and just really like fishing. I'm sure there's stupid people out there like that who will need to have the best fishing gear from their favorite brand for the sake of having it but there's nothing wrong with having odd priorities.

It would suck to be one of their kids though, having to grow up in a trailer because daddy spends all his spare money on fishing/some other hobby boomers like.

I agree rather than a defined number it should be based on context, and you just know yourself when it becomes wrong. Personally my justification for spending money is I don't drink, smoke or buy overpriced coffee. Everyone has some kind of wasteful habbit. I just view things in terms of alcohol as there is a big drinking culture. If you're paying £2.50 for a pint and most people have atleast 5 pints on friday and another £5 on saturday, thats £25 a week or £100 per month, and that's a conservative estimate based only on 1 common spending habbit.

The equivalent of £100/month on booze where I live in the US will ensure you always have something interesting and decent quality to drink if you drink twice a week and won't run out until at least the next month.

Speaking of which, there is the pretentious as hell scene of craft beer, wine, and whiskey. It's an old school form of consooming since collecting wine and speculating on how bottles will appreciate in value is centuries old and there's a huge market for it. They'll rarely drink anything expensive from their wine cellar either. Whiskey collections are a thing too I've noticed and just looking at the price of bottles people must run up insane amounts of money on it. I've never really done a lot of research into it but I do know anything related to alcohol tasting and appreciation is just dripping with every flavor of pretentiousness you can imagine from the elitist wine snobs to the soybeards trying that heckin' great new IPA.

But like what keeps getting brought up, having a big-ass wine cellar full of old and rare vintages is a lot more impressive than a wall of Funko pops and is actually functional since you can get your guests drunk on some expensive wine (the more fancy the wine supposedly is, the better people think it tastes after all). It's a better investment too since people have been collecting wine for centuries and there's always going to be some rich asshole looking to buy your shit.

tl;dr drink responsibly

 

[Ged!]

I don't really think there can be a standard for who is and isn't a consoomer. Determining that is an art, not a science.

 

[Erika Furudo]

I've encountered something similar where you'll have people who live in trailer parks that drive shitty trucks who own expensive boats and insane amounts of fishing gear. Usually the boat alone is worth more than everything else they own.

But I think it's similar to what was mentioned and their boat and fishing equipment is actually serving a purpose. Presumably they're catching at least some of their food so they're getting some return on their investment. And for all I know, maybe they are financially responsible and just really like fishing. I'm sure there's stupid people out there like that who will need to have the best fishing gear from their favorite brand for the sake of having it but there's nothing wrong with having odd priorities.

It would suck to be one of their kids though, having to grow up in a trailer because daddy spends all his spare money on fishing/some other hobby boomers like.

The equivalent of £100/month on booze where I live in the US will ensure you always have something interesting and decent quality to drink if you drink twice a week and won't run out until at least the next month.

Speaking of which, there is the pretentious as hell scene of craft beer, wine, and whiskey. It's an old school form of consooming since collecting wine and speculating on how bottles will appreciate in value is centuries old and there's a huge market for it. They'll rarely drink anything expensive from their wine cellar either. Whiskey collections are a thing too I've noticed and just looking at the price of bottles people must run up insane amounts of money on it. I've never really done a lot of research into it but I do know anything related to alcohol tasting and appreciation is just dripping with every flavor of pretentiousness you can imagine from the elitist wine snobs to the soybeards trying that heckin' great new IPA.

But like what keeps getting brought up, having a big-ass wine cellar full of old and rare vintages is a lot more impressive than a wall of Funko pops and is actually functional since you can get your guests drunk on some expensive wine (the more fancy the wine supposedly is, the better people think it tastes after all). It's a better investment too since people have been collecting wine for centuries and there's always going to be some rich asshole looking to buy your shit.

tl;dr drink responsibly

I think the beer and whiskey stuff is mainly driven by limp wristed hipsters. It was traditionally considered masculine, therefore drinking it makes them masculine by association. Much like their beard obsession it's an attempt to overcompensate.

IIRC wine testers can't even tell the difference. When I did drink wine, like at Christmas or some other event where people buy lots of alcohol. It all tasted the same. Red wine is red wine, they can fuck off with all that shit about some kind of hint of cherry or backcurrent. It's fermented grape juice, and unless they added some other crap to it like mulled wine and spices, it will all taste the same. It's so fucking pretentious. But again, it has more resale than funkopops, and atleast glass bottles can be recycled easily enough.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I don't really think there can be a standard for who is and isn't a consoomer. Determining that is an art, not a science.

There is. There's a difference between people who buy merch because it gives them personal enjoyment, and there's people who buy because of peer pressure or societal pressure.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Man not to sound like a dick but jesus christ where is the riffing of consoomers, it feels like this thread is more about the philosophical discussion of what is a consoomer and people trying to justify their hobbies as not being a consoomer.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

Western release of the original Persona 5 was in 2017. Both the PS3 and PS4 use Blu-Rays, which are pretty durable compared to DVDs.

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

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Western release of the original Persona 5 was in 2017. Both the PS3 and PS4 use Blu-Rays, which are pretty durable compared to DVDs.

one of those times was probably royal tbf that still means he has 2 redundant copies for no reason

 

[World's Smallest Violin]

It got banned because AHS can't stand differing opinions.
The. win revival is honestly shit, filled with tryhards and wannabe /pol/tards without any nuance.
Shame, because it was a legitimately good sub.

They did ban averageredditor too because subconsciously subs like them and consumeproduct hit close to home.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

one of those times was probably royal tbf that still means he has 2 redundant copies for no reason

I assume they have both the PS3 and PS4 versions of the original and a copy of Royal. The fourth one could be a sealed copy. Maybe it's the Japanese version?

 

[MrAnnoyingDude]

Have we talked about car consoomers?

At this point it's became normal for "enthusiast" cars - new Corvette, Supra, Focus RS, etc. - to be marked up for those who can't wait.

But the practice has been spreading, and last year even a Hyundai crossover wasn't safe from consoomers.

 

[Thiletonomics]

Have we talked about car consoomers?

At this point it's became normal for "enthusiast" cars - new Corvette, Supra, Focus RS, etc. - to be marked up for those who can't wait.

But the practice has been spreading, and last year even a Hyundai crossover wasn't safe from consoomers.

That reminds me of the Tesla fanboys, who go so far as to worshipping Elon Musk like he's Jesus Christ or something, and completely overlook any of the flaws that Tesla cars have, i.e. the minimalistic interiors, questionable build quality of the cars themselves, and the things that go wrong with them, i.e. what if the giant ass touchscreen fails?

 

[MrAnnoyingDude]

any of the flaws that Tesla cars have, i.e. the minimalistic interiors

I wouldn't say this one's a flaw - many people like it as a genuine style choice.

 

[Pee Cola]

That reminds me of the Tesla fanboys, who go so far as to worshipping Elon Musk like he's Jesus Christ or something, and completely overlook any of the flaws that Tesla cars have, i.e. the minimalistic interiors, questionable build quality of the cars themselves, and the things that go wrong with them, i.e. what if the giant ass touchscreen fails?

Then there's the tiny issue of some of Tesla's business practices. Things such as removing paid-for features when a Tesla consoomer sells their car onto someone else, refusal to sell spares to people looking to repair Teslas that have been in fender benders, shit like that.

I'd go as far as to say that the biggest problem with EVs isn't their range, or the time they take to charge, or even the price... it's the risk of being lumped in with all those fucking Tesla consoomers just because you bought a Nissan Leaf because (a) you have a use case for an EV and (b) you just think EVs are kinda neat.

 

[Montalbane]

I think the worst offenders currently are warhammer manchildren.
Mind you, I love warhammer but the (((fandom))) is absolute dogshit.
Stereotypes on top of stereotypes of fat, smelly nerds getting heated on the internet, still fighting the culture war from 2016 to own the Ess Jey Dablius or the conservatards.
The thing that tipped was in a facebook group where there were thousands of videogame screenshots (mostly from total war warhammer which is a major downgrade compared to shogun2 or med2 and is essentially just a glorified starcraft total war) or endless discussion about who is ruining warhammer but zero fucking pictures of painted models, zero battle reports, zero lore discussions aside from the same stale memes.

That's what a consumer is: a person more worried about looking like a true and honest fan rather than actually enjoying the hobby, essentially a social parasites who latches onto things and kills them with a death by a thousand cuts.

Which is why I am getting into Bolt Action and actual guns as a hobby 80 year olds still want to do things rather than discuss them ad nauseam online.

 

[Thiletonomics]

I'd go as far as to say that the biggest problem with EVs isn't their range, or the time they take to charge, or even the price... it's the risk of being lumped in with all those fucking Tesla consoomers just because you bought a Nissan Leaf because (a) you have a use case for an EV and (b) you just think EVs are kinda neat.

Don't some Tesla fans rag on people who buy other EVs, because they considered those to be "inferior" to the Master Race Tesla cars? Granted, some of those EVs do have serious issues with them as well, i.e. older model Nissan Leafs losing significant battery life due to the batteries being air-cooled (with no active battery temperature management system, and I'm not sure if the newer Leafs also have this issue), Chevrolet Bolts having uncomfortable seats (in which GM says that the seats will be improved in the 2022 Bolts) and the recall to limit charge capacity to 90% in response to reported battery fires, and Hyundai Kona EVs needing complete battery replacements under recall due to reported battery fires. (which will cost LG $900 million to replace the batteries)

 

[bigbombguy2222]

Don't some Tesla fans rag on people who buy other EVs, because they considered those to be "inferior" to the Master Race Tesla cars? Granted, some of those EVs do have serious issues with them as well, i.e. older model Nissan Leafs losing significant battery life due to the batteries being air-cooled (with no active battery temperature management system, and I'm not sure if the newer Leafs also have this issue), Chevrolet Bolts having uncomfortable seats (in which GM says that the seats will be improved in the 2022 Bolts) and the recall to limit charge capacity to 90% in response to reported battery fires, and Hyundai Kona EVs needing complete battery replacements under recall due to reported battery fires. (which will cost LG $900 million to replace the batteries)

Most (if not all) EVs have serious problems. That's no surprise, because this is relatively new technology, and it'll take a while to get all the kinks out. Which is why Tesla fanboys are as annoying as they are. They get incredibly defensive over cars that aren't very good to begin with, yet have no issue crapping on other EVs for having problems that Tesla's have as well.

TBH, we could use an Elon Musk fanboy thread if there isn't one already. They get defensive over any tuft of air Elon Musk so much as farts in.

 

[Doctor of Autism]