SCP Foundation - Creepypasta with roid rage - now ITT: SCP fans

Yeah it is a minefield. Anyone using an adaptation doesn't have any rights to distribution. The illustrations are definitely adaptations, and definitely are CC BY-SA 3.0. The new publisher admits as much in response to that very question. So it seems like they would know that they wouldn't have had to buy them. Maybe they did it to avoid a legal battle, maybe Duskin swindled them, maybe Russian copyright is really just that gorked.


lol this dumbass kaktus. Just can’t think beyond the first dimension. Go -FR, don’t let up or give in. He would have brushed it off if it was nothing. He’s advertising how bothered he is by calling attention over this, that it is spilling into his domain now. He isn’t trying to stiff arm you into a deal because you are wrong; he’s telling everyone that you are on to something.
The fact that kaktus is having catfights with foreign staff goes to show how fast the overall brand is caving in on itself. This guy used to be site staff at one point. At least the actual mods have some merit now; I see why they demoted this schizo. Here he is on Twitter acting like a bonobo ape for all to see.
 
some of these twitter posts are pretty funny:

https://twitter.com/rounderhouse/status/1366303536292757504


https://twitter.com/maurel_perrine/status/1366310294163755009 relevant american/french skirmishes on the Twitter border world


https://twitter.com/aismallard/status/1366322705461616643 oh boy another thread. we don't care aismallard, modulum, we don't want to read shitty amogus scp as a mainlister. the mainlist should be home to actual good scps that have more going for them than "lol red sus Uh no you dont get it this is actually a greek god being forgotten" like idc its a bad article

https://twitter.com/TuftoSCP/status/1366346559085027329 thank you author of among us scp (edit: the author is actually Tanhony, not Tufto.)

The reason I didn't archive is because I want to see you delete these tweets. Not because I want them gone, or they're the "wrong opinion", but because I want to see you acknowledge that you care sincerely about the sweaty 4chan bros on Kiwi Farms talking smack about you. We know you're lurking.

You can like the Among Us SCP just fine. It shouldn't really concern us what you enjoy reading. The problem here arises when you smugpost about someone not liking your SCP. Tufto himself posting his poopy statue tangent somewhat proves these people don't value criticism, they only look to accumulate more yes-men into their Katamari ball of obscure creepypasta clout.

The point some of you bring up is "well lol these people aren't involved in the wiki" i mean yeah, its an obscure creepypasta site on Wikidot. I bet the vast, vast majority of your readers don't have a wikidot account. As writers you should be accounting for those kinds of people-- not the trolls, but the unregistered folks out there reading from the outside. When you mock and dismiss them for not being "involved," it further reinforces out opinion that SCP has become no different from a high school clique.

Get off your high horses and learn how to communicate with the people who put eyes on your shit. Don't suck off trolls-- just stop being such a dick because someone said your mainlist -J was awful to sit through. It really shouldn't be this hard.
 
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Staff sighed collectively and celebrated this as a weight lifted from their shoulders. Because things developed before that in those 5 years was a a very grey area in the eyes of the law.
I'd say if you were aware of an "infringement," and publicly okayed it and said you were happy about it, then waited five more years to sue, it might be barred by the doctrine of laches, i.e. an equitable doctrine involving unreasonable delay in bringing a suit where the delay causes prejudice to the defendant, or where the plaintiff had consented to the act he's suing over. As with almost all the (nearly academic) legal issues here, this is also a situation you don't want to be in. The cases are few and far between where copyright suits have been barred by the doctrine. This would seem to apply, but not necessarily to other early /x/ posters who somehow were unaware of the SCP site.
 
The fact that kaktus is having catfights with foreign staff goes to show how fast the overall brand is caving in on itself. This guy used to be site staff at one point. At least the actual mods have some merit now; I see why they demoted this schizo. Here he is on Twitter acting like a bonobo ape for all to see.
I guarantee staff who want to keep good diplomatic relations with INT branches want to dick punch him right now. This hissy fit says more about d-kak the bitter, fallen politician than the -FR dude or any site problem.

But will he be disciplined for off-site harassment? (Nope.) Let's watch.

some of these twitter posts are pretty funny:

https://twitter.com/rounderhouse/status/1366303536292757504


https://twitter.com/maurel_perrine/status/1366310294163755009 relevant american/french skirmishes on the Twitter border world


https://twitter.com/aismallard/status/1366322705461616643 oh boy another thread. we don't care aismallard, modulum, we don't want to read shitty amogus scp as a mainlister. the mainlist should be home to actual good scps that have more going for them than "lol red sus Uh no you dont get it this is actually a greek god being forgotten" like idc its a bad article

https://twitter.com/TuftoSCP/status/1366346559085027329 thank you author of among us scp

The reason I didn't archive is because I want to see you delete these tweets. Not because I want them gone, or they're the "wrong opinion", but because I want to see you acknowledge that you care sincerely about the sweaty 4chan bros on Kiwi Farms talking smack about you. We know you're lurking.

You can like the Among Us SCP just fine. It shouldn't really concern us what you enjoy reading. The problem here arises when you smugpost about someone not liking your SCP. Tufto himself posting his poopy statue tangent somewhat proves these people don't value criticism, they only look to accumulate more yes-men into their Katamri ball of obscure creepypasta clout.

The point some of you bring up is "well lol these people aren't involved in the wiki" i mean yeah, its an obscure creepypasta site on Wikidot. I bet the vast, vast majority of your readers don't have a wikidot account. As writers you should be accounting for those kinds of people-- not the trolls, but the unregistered folks out there reading from the outside. When you mock and dismiss them for not being "involved," it further reinforces out opinion that SCP has become no different from a high school clique.

Get off your high horses and learn how to communicate with the people who put eyes on your shit. Don't suck off trolls-- just stop being such a dick because someone said your mainlist -J was awful to sit through. It really shouldn't be this hard.

What’s fun to watch is their motte-and-bailey routine. They take their articles insanely seriously and are compulsive about their upvotes and popularity. They gatekeep not just the quality of articles but even the thought of writing one by having established writers OK your basic idea before you can even post it. (Unless you are upper tier like this guy... rules for the plebs.) They’ll look at the body of work and pat themselves on the back as the largest, bestest collaborative writing project ever and carry the inflated prestige they award themselves for being a part of it around everywhere with them. You should see the way they wore like a badge their appeal to the authority of Max Landis before he was banned. They like to think they have very high standards for acceptance, a high threshold for publication.

Except when a shite article comes out that is lazily based solely on two pre-existing pieces of culture pasted together with a decent line sprinkled in. When one of the pieces is straight ripped from mainstream pop culture too (something that is discouraged by the rules, by the way)... then suddenly it is “just poopy statue fiction you guyz, relax! Don’t you have anything better to do than criticize this wee hobby of ours?!”

But yeah that this harkens the collapse of the Wiki is greatly exaggerated. Shitty articles have gotten a pass cause of who wrote them for a long time there. This article in a newbie’s name would be evaporated by a laser of downvotes and literary snobbery within seconds. No one is fooled by this besides the SCP authors.
 
That's what I don't get with the whole copyleft stuff. They sold the rights to illustrations. But aren't derivative works also covered by the license? So wouldn't the illustrations also be free to use for anyone that wanted to do anything with them? And if not what is actually covered? The whole permissive license/public domain stuff seems like a minefield to me.

The only things that can really be a "minefield" are copyleft licenses, which are basically a special type of public domain where all derivatives are forced to be made public domain as well. With regular public domain you have absolutely no restrictions, and "permissive licenses" are usually just "public domain but you have to give me credit"
 
Among other news...
Yeah, this is Kaktus blackmailing SCP-FR staff over some dumb thread on the amogus SCP.


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And a pair of archive screencaps just in case

For a man who definitely isn't taking this seriously, he sure is going to great lengths to guarantee that nobody can discuss this on the platforms where he has influence. If the random French dude's claim really has no merit, making fun of him should be enough, no? Or perhaps this is an ego thing, and Kaktus feels the need to destroy this guy for implying that his influence over the wiki was gained through underhanded means? It certainly wouldn't be the first time.
some of these twitter posts are pretty funny:

https://twitter.com/rounderhouse/status/1366303536292757504


https://twitter.com/maurel_perrine/status/1366310294163755009 relevant american/french skirmishes on the Twitter border world


https://twitter.com/aismallard/status/1366322705461616643 oh boy another thread. we don't care aismallard, modulum, we don't want to read shitty amogus scp as a mainlister. the mainlist should be home to actual good scps that have more going for them than "lol red sus Uh no you dont get it this is actually a greek god being forgotten" like idc its a bad article

https://twitter.com/TuftoSCP/status/1366346559085027329 thank you author of among us scp

The reason I didn't archive is because I want to see you delete these tweets. Not because I want them gone, or they're the "wrong opinion", but because I want to see you acknowledge that you care sincerely about the sweaty 4chan bros on Kiwi Farms talking smack about you. We know you're lurking.

You can like the Among Us SCP just fine. It shouldn't really concern us what you enjoy reading. The problem here arises when you smugpost about someone not liking your SCP. Tufto himself posting his poopy statue tangent somewhat proves these people don't value criticism, they only look to accumulate more yes-men into their Katamari ball of obscure creepypasta clout.

The point some of you bring up is "well lol these people aren't involved in the wiki" i mean yeah, its an obscure creepypasta site on Wikidot. I bet the vast, vast majority of your readers don't have a wikidot account. As writers you should be accounting for those kinds of people-- not the trolls, but the unregistered folks out there reading from the outside. When you mock and dismiss them for not being "involved," it further reinforces out opinion that SCP has become no different from a high school clique.

Get off your high horses and learn how to communicate with the people who put eyes on your shit. Don't suck off trolls-- just stop being such a dick because someone said your mainlist -J was awful to sit through. It really shouldn't be this hard.
Give up trying to appeal to them in any way, they don't care about your opinion if you're not feeding them upvotes. The people they're being smug assholes to on Twitter right now aren't the audience they're trying to please with articles like the shitty Among Us SCP. The only readers they care about are the ones who get them to +100 on their latest article with exactly the same format and structure as the last 20 with some slight aesthetic changes.
 
Give up trying to appeal to them in any way, they don't care about your opinion if you're not feeding them upvotes. The people they're being smug assholes to on Twitter right now aren't the audience they're trying to please with articles like the shitty Among Us SCP. The only readers they care about are the ones who get them to +100 on their latest article with exactly the same format and structure as the last 20 with some slight aesthetic changes.
Yeah, I don't know why I even tried.

Also, I find it funny that their argument that this article is at all worth a damn is "you just don't get it, it's just too deep for you." Correct me if I'm wrong, but in most serious writer circles, this is the "my brother was on my computer" of excuses for bad writing.
 
Yeah, I don't know why I even tried.

Also, I find it funny that their argument that this article is at all worth a damn is "you just don't get it, it's just too deep for you." Correct me if I'm wrong, but in most serious writer circles, this is the "my brother was on my computer" of excuses for bad writing.
What's that? You don't like that I ruined a potentially interesting concept with a dumb meme tie-in that adds nothing and makes the good parts of this article harder to take seriously? Clearly, you're just too stupid to get it.
 
What's that? You don't like that I ruined a potentially interesting concept with a dumb meme tie-in that adds nothing and makes the good parts of this article harder to take seriously? Clearly, you're just too stupid to get it.
That too. This stings more than the Minecraft SCP since at least the Minecraft one was just an eldritch killing monster. This one's premise is a dying god from Classical times trying to make itself relevant again by invading the modern human sphere of thought. But the only way Tanhony knew how to make it notable was not by properly developing the themes, arcs, and implications that the SCP could have set, but by shoehorning in a topical meme that will inevitably become severally dated. He wanted to make his article stand for the moment, but that shiny exterior he gave it will ultimately serve as the weight that drags it under the cold, cold waters of irrelevancy.
 
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That too. This stings more than the Minecraft SCP since at least the Minecraft one was just an eldritch killing monster. This one's premise is a dying god from Classical times trying to make itself relevant again by invading the modern human sphere of thought. But the only way Tufto knew how to make it notable was not by properly developing the themes, arcs, and implications that the SCP could have set, but by shoehorning in a topical meme that will inevitably become severally dated. He wanted to make his article stand for the moment, but that shiny exterior he gave it will ultimately serve as the weight that drags it under the cold, cold waters of datedness.
Minor correction, the author is Tanhony, not Tufto.
 
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The longer SCP goes on the more it becomes creepypasta wiki pt. 2. I feel like we're past the point of SCP producing anything culturally significant. It seems like the last "big" SCP was 3008, and Containment Breach relied on all the old, recognizable SCPs. The internet's focused has shifted away from SCP, and now the new horror trend is "seemingly innocuous object is actually a monster" i.e. Siren Head.

Like Siren Head, Slenderman, and SCP-137, concepts get stretched thin after a certain point, and I think SCP as a concept is wrung dry. Amazing that they've lasted this long though.
 
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The longer SCP goes on the more it becomes creepypasta wiki pt. 2. I feel like we're past the point of SCP producing anything culturally significant. It seems like the last "big" SCP was 3008, and Containment Breach relied on all the old, recognizable SCPs. It seems like the internet's focused has shifted away from SCP, and now the new horror trend is "seemingly innocuous object is actually a monster" i.e. Siren Head.

Like Siren Head, Slenderman, and SCP-137, concepts get stretched thin after a certain point, and I think SCP as a concept is wrung dry. Amazing that they've lasted this long though.
They're in an interesting position, because most of their relevance on the wider Internet is because of SCP articles they hate from Series 1. I'm sure they would love to go back and get rid of all the "bad" writing from that time, but doing so would render them almost completely irrelevant. They're just going to deal with it, I guess.
 
They're in an interesting position, because most of their relevance on the wider Internet is because of SCP articles they hate from Series 1. I'm sure they would love to go back and get rid of all the "bad" writing from that time, but doing so would render them almost completely irrelevant. They're just going to deal with it, I guess.
SJWs are such fucking trash. They create nothing but trash and are only motivated by blind hatred of what is better that came before them.
 
Okay, just finished this thread, what the fuck y’all niggas at SCP smoking besides fat pedophile loser dick?
Like, hey, this ain’t the worse shit I ever seen, I lurked around during the zoo-crew era on guest accounts. But still, the crazy dumb stuff on here that hasn’t been discussed outside this place is wild. Strange how no one has caught flack yet with the large fan base and modern day Twitter culture.
I had some awareness of what went down due to being apart of a rival writing community for a time, but not like this man.
Anyways, besides me just expressing my shock into the void, I’m just going to hop in and say-
Not only do none of these things actually describe SJWs, but this isn't even a proper sentence.
You don’t need perfect grammar to get the basic jist of a sentence, it’s a waste of breath. Most human brains read things like that quickly it’ll register properly anyways, you nitpicking goon.
 
Yes it is. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Well, since you're apparently retarded or ESL, I'll explain it to you and collect some puzzle pieces.

They create nothing but trash
(this is a very simple independent clause)
and
(this indicates what is coming is another independent clause)
are only motivated
(verb with 'they' from the beginning of the sentence impllied)
by
(indicating what follows is a subordinate clause modifying what comes before)
blind hatred
(the object of by)
of
(here comes another subordinate clause)
what
(another object)
is better
(explaining what)
that
(and here comes the final subordinate clause)
came before them.
(final subordinate clause)

Simply because you're too dumb to grasp something that has a series of embedded subordinate clauses does not mean they are ungrammatical in any way. You have no fucking clue what you are talking about you goddamn sped. If I had a chalkboard I could diagram it better, but I don't.
 
You don’t need perfect grammar to get the basic jist of a sentence, it’s a waste of breath. Most human brains read things like that quickly it’ll register properly anyways, you nitpicking goon.
My jab was about it being a waste of breath in the first place. I find a lot of the side-topics on this thread to be extremely unnecessary at best and directly damaging to the point of the thread at worst.
 
My jab was about it being a waste of breath in the first place. I find a lot of the side-topics on this thread to be extremely unnecessary at best and directly damaging to the point of the thread at worst.
Hm. Actually, poor judgement on my part. What you're saying is true, my gut reaction was just to shit on you. Nothing justified it. Apologies.
 
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