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Melanie Herring / Purplekecleon / PK / PapayaKitty / GlitchedPuppet / Ash Hazel Woods / Floraverse - Abusive, manipulative SJW artist whose ex-husband fucked a dog and teenagers and whose current husband thinks he's trans because of a TF fetish, admitted to fucking two dogs and letting her cat eat her out
... Wait, what the fuck? She drew porn of herself getting fucked by a Persian representing her own cat?
Also, @TheInfamousJ I did not want to sound accusatory on the powerleveling thing, and while I certainly appreciate that you spoiler'd it, I only brought it up due to it being something of a rampant problem here on the boards. Lord knows I've been guilty of it, just speaking sperg to sperg here. Just trying to cut down on it for everybody's sakes.
But though your posts are long as shit, damn if they're not filled with a buttload of content. Please, provide us with more content on why PK is such a huge bitch.
Two of the Sphinxes has/had diarrhea problems, so take that as you will. When Pearl was bought, she already had an intestinal parasite that gave her diarrhea. Spending nearly a grand on a special breed cat only to end up with a sick one is a terrible thing.
I was so into reading about the delicious new info that I forgot about today's update! Andre does a Missingno to finally end this wild goose chase of an "interview".
As for the rest, eh, it's fine. I've no intent of making a habit of it, I only brought it up because it was relevant.
Now let me give you the great gift of making the Twigs/cat thing even more awkward.
That is their cat cosplaying the character she bones. Marl (guy accused of being into bestiality but not confirmed) dressed him up that way.
You're welcome.
Now, wouldn't it be awful if there was something to make things more awful/awkward?
Hey, guys, remember how Marl wasn't really OK with the relationship being open and mentioned never feeling comfortable with Eevee until recently?
You're welcome, x2. Also, that Twigs thing is creepy and awkward on so many levels after reading this thread. (Also, the updates were so unbearable, it was just inane rambling to cater to the admins.)
Browsing though her gallery to find something, I came across this. It's 5 years old but hilarious in hindsight.
"Basically half of designing creatures or whatever is learning when to quit adding details sometimes I feel like recent Pokemon designers didn't get that memo (ahem, Zekrom)".
Wow, that is both hysterical and sad.
Bonus:
Wow, I never noticed how terribly the patterns are for this stuff. I mean even on the first one the dots are way too big, and the other one is just atrocious (which I think might be the joke, but with PK you can never quite tell).
NSFW, but I stumbled on this and it really creeped me out.
The comment on it is "real training" (that makes how childish the dewott seems all the more disturbing).
Click it if you dare.
And here you go, everyone. PK's narcissistic harem images they would post to the group occasionally. Remember, one of these guys was abused, the other chased off the internet, and one is their cat.
I don't have much else to say right now, I might recall more later. I could go into the Mike drama I suppose, because they still take shots at them to this day, and I recall reading it when PK posted it and even then I thought it made PK look worse then Mike (though I haven't read it recently, I'm not sure.).
Ironically it's the one about call out culture which is the first red flag, really.
I was so into reading about the delicious new info that I forgot about today's update! Andre does a Missingno to finally end this wild goose chase of an "interview".
Maybe it's because PK's anatomy isn't really out to play (PK's anatomy is terrible no matter what they draw), but that last panel isn't half bad. Ironically one of the most clustered panels in a while is easiest on the eyes. The color direction goes well, it flows well, and the purple pink filter isn't there to hurt my eyes (the only thing that kind of messes it up is Andre's face has the pink purple thing something fierce, but the rest of it just allows the colors to be their colors. It's kind of nice.).
Edit: Also, I don't know if any of you follow SU, but recently Pearl got kind of rape-y (Pearl was my favorite until that episode, now I'm kind of, uh, waiting to see how it plays out). How do you think PK will react to that, be bothered by it, not care, or love the character more (you know, considering it's PK, and they're super SJW)?
Meant to post this earlier, but forgot about it because I had errands to do.
How PMD-E began. First some backstory: PK was in this Pokemon RP art group (pkmn-battle-frontier, it's gone now) and was doing swimmingly until she unknowingly broke one of their stupid rules. The rule was that the Pokemon must be using an attack in their entry, and PK was booted out of that contest. This is the offending picture. So she made a journal about it. The archive link is on a weird setting where the oldest comments are on the bottom.
A few months pass.
To the surprise of ABSOLUTELY NO ONE on this here forum, PMD-E wasn't thought up by PK all by herself, but someone else. PK made a journal about ideas for a better Pokemon RP group and someone who goes by "Relevancy" first suggested a PMD-themed one. (archived , also at the weird comment setting, so the oldest comments are at the bottom.) So a while later, PMD-E starts up and the rest is history.
Edit: Also, I don't know if any of you follow SU, but recently Pearl got kind of rape-y (Pearl was my favorite until that episode, now I'm kind of, uh, waiting to see how it plays out). How do you think PK will react to that, be bothered by it, not care, or love the character more (you know, considering it's PK, and they're super SJW)?
Knowing how PK is balls-deep into dubcon stuff and will excuse her precious cinnamon roll from any negative actions, I doubt they'll care to be honest. "Social Justice" by PK is used as and when it suits them, and is mainly just to avoid any more hate especially from the drama with Pengo; because SJWs don't police each other, they just keep going around and around in an echo-chamber of bs.
Meant to post this earlier, but forgot about it because I had errands to do.
How PMD-E began. First some backstory: PK was in this Pokemon RP art group (pkmn-battle-frontier, it's gone now) and was doing swimmingly until she unknowingly broke one of their stupid rules. The rule was that the Pokemon must be using an attack in their entry, and PK was booted out of that contest. This is the offending picture. So she made a journal about it. The archive link is on a weird setting where the oldest comments are on the bottom.
A few months pass.
To the surprise of ABSOLUTELY NO ONE on this here forum, PMD-E wasn't thought up by PK all by herself, but someone else. PK made a journal about ideas for a better Pokemon RP group and someone who goes by "Relevancy" first suggested a PMD-themed one. (archived , also at the weird comment setting, so the oldest comments are at the bottom.) So a while later, PMD-E starts up and the rest is history.
Oh ho, is that what happened? Well, I mean, to be fair, it's a fighting group, so it makes sense a move would have to be shown. And once you've messed up, you've lost. It's a scoring system (it's more a contest then an out right RP group). Also, to my knowledge the group isn't so much gone, as moved: http://battle-frontier.deviantart.com/ (though the new group might be inactive now, I'm not sure. They haven't seemed to update since April.)
I do however recall one of the admins told me Marl started throwing a fit in the comments ((despite not being a member) as apparently, to some extent so did PK if I recall (but I'm not sure)) because "the group wasn't enough about Pokemon" and that stuff (and PK does make a passive aggressive comment about it in the journal).
"I wish one of those battle frontier groups existed where the emphasis was on making cool Pokemon art instead of art of the trainers involved. I'm okay with including the other person's trainer if they draw mine too, because that's kind of like a neat art exchange (and it's fun). I'm also okay with drawing my trainer and Pokemon in different scenes that tell a story. I'm not at all okay with having to cram a lot of things in a scene though, like, 4 trainers+4 Pokemon is just too much to fit into a scene to me. Composition-wise it just becomes dumb to orchestrate. I'm not interested in that as much as I am in drawing Pokemon interacting; that's where I have the most fun.
Oh well! I'd love to host some sort of competition like that (like I'd thought about doing some months back) but it does take a lot of time/thought/effort to make it worthwhile and fun for the majority. It's nothing if it's not fun-- the moment it becomes a chore to participate in, that's pretty awful and shouldn't be the case. Also I really hate being forced to draw fanart of people when I don't get anything in exchange; like I said, I'd rather just draw Pokemon. Don't most people feel this way or am I the odd one out? I'm not entirely sure, but it kind of reminds me of doing a commission without any benefit- sometimes I don't really want to do the piece I'm commissioned to do, but I find motivation in the fact that in doing a good job I get something out of it."
Woah. This seems so passive aggressive (also, the other person did draw PK, really? They make it sound like they didn't. From what I can tell the artist they were paired up with wasn't that great, and I'm guessing PK was bitter about the quality of the art they were getting (also, PK mentioning their name in the journal seemed like a really catty way to subtly get that person ire). Also, the group is about improvement and ideas, not bare talent (if I recall), so of course they were going to lose).
Art that was given:
PK makes it seem like they didn't draw them at all. Also, it says on their page they're 21 now, so they were about 16 when this happened. Also, they depicted PK way better then they depicted themselves.
In the journal I keep linking (which is basically filled with lolcow moments and raging hypocrisy), PK and Marl talk about how original the group is and how people kept trying to copy them.
Also, wow, I just re-read Marl's comment on it, and wow.
Marl: "I’ve also learned that people love to use the pre-established popularity of groups in order to further their own selves, and that people love to attempt to imitate anything that’s doing (for dA, at least) fairly well off. These aren’t necessarily bad things in and of themselves, but it does give you an idea of who can’t come up with original ideas on their own. I say that with no hint of malice, I merely believe what I said is the truth. I have seen literally dozens of PMD-E knockoff groups be created and fail days, weeks, and months later. Some copied our layout, some copied our applications, and some even copied our FAQ! Strange, isn’t it?
That’s not to say I believe our PMD-E idea was purely original. After all, despite our best efforts and story planning, it still is set in Nintendo’s universe. No matter what we draw, write, or come up with, it’s held prisoner by the fact that “It’s not really our idea, when you get down to it. It’s Pokemon”."
Oh, hey, look. No credit given. Also I checked this and there were plenty of other RP groups that didn't kick you if you didn't do well enough that existed before PMD-E if I recall (including if I recall correctly Pokemon ones. Though, in the sake of fairness they (at least the ones I found, but I'm sure there were others) were anthro/gijinka, but you could choose to not be anthro and have a Pokemon.), and another user there hints one already existed before they made PMD-E. It's funny they mention people trying to take credit for everything, while trying to take credit for everything/act like they were original when they were not (all while acting like everyone else copied them, aaah, that good old narcissism).
PK: "Ah... I guess it’s my turn! Everything he said was true, though. I guess... I’ll talk a little bit about the beginning, since this group makes me feel so sentimental, and I’ve put this off for longer than I’ve wanted to.
Well.. in the beginning, I made the group because I was tired of there being no place to go and “compete” while still having fun, and because there were no places that didn’t kick people out for “losing” -- I thought this was stupid, after having lost for a stupid reason. Yep! So, I wanted to make a group where you could never be kicked out of participation after having been kicked out myself. I didn’t find that fun, to not be able to keep going with everyone! Can you blame me? I didn’t like that feeling, found it stupid and discouraging, and wanted to make a place where that feeling wouldn’t exist in the same way at all. I wanted a place where people could feel inspired to do better, but not where they would feel left out and left behind. I hated that feeling, and I suspected many others did, too.
I ended up coming up with a loose little story after diving in and making the group one day. No one really knew about it yet, but it was listed on my dA profile, and some people had begun to ask me. I pulled some close friends-- and some not-so-close friends-- aside, asking if they wanted to help."
Also, I just realized, Marl threw himself under the bus for them, and PK just took it and agreed with it and didn't defend him at all. Wow.
Also, guys, I just re-read through Marl's (he's the first poster) entry on that journal, and it's so slimey, read through it, it's a fucking gold mine: http://pmd-explorers.deviantart.com/journal/A-Goodbye-384740037
Every line is so gross, it's magical. How did people even sympathize with him at all? He's not even subtle. I'm guessing because he was an extension of PK.
Knowing how PK is balls-deep into dubcon stuff and will excuse her precious cinnamon roll from any negative actions, I doubt they'll care to be honest. "Social Justice" by PK is used as and when it suits them, and is mainly just to avoid any more hate especially from the drama with Pengo; because SJWs don't police each other, they just keep going around and around in an echo-chamber of bs.
So, as it usually is. Noted. Yeah, agreed though, PK is totally in it for the attention and glory. And pity points, PK loved those before tumblr was a thing. I wonder how annoyed they're going to get if people hate on Pearl for it (though people likely won't as much, because it's a female (or female leaning) character and people never address their abuse as messed up (especially on tumblr), but on the other end of that a lot of people don't seem to like Pearl, so hm.).
Well since there's been several really long posts since I last visited, I don't think I'd be able to find the comment again but (I think it was) @TheInfamousJ , IIRC that Kecleon with the extra spikes was just a tip of the iceberg as far as abstract kecs go, which was mainly what I meant. Yeah there was an entire family tree done for PK even though only PK and Anana got used pretty much at all.
But hey, anything to avoid giving anyone else some screentime.
Well since there's been several really long posts since I last visited, I don't think I'd be able to find the comment again but (I think it was) @TheInfamousJ , IIRC that Kecleon with the extra spikes was just a tip of the iceberg as far as abstract kecs go, which was mainly what I meant. Yeah there was an entire family tree done for PK even though only PK and Anana got used pretty much at all.
But hey, anything to avoid giving anyone else some screentime.
Sorry, I'll comment less now. I just wanted to put in my 2 cents, and often there was a bit to say (I had a lot to say, as I've been following the drama a long time, but I don't have much to say on present day PK drama, so I won't say much on it). Worry not.
By the way, the comments in question are here:
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/purplekecleon-aka-pk-or-papayakitty.5567/page-14#post-843431
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/purplekecleon-aka-pk-or-papayakitty.5567/page-14#post-843431
(Also, if you do find my posts too overwhelming, just ask me and I will happily point you to exactly what you need me to.)
The hypocrisy wasn't PK being purple, or Kecleons not being green (which happens, they can change the entirety of their markings to anything, except the band).
I recall that, yeah. In the sake of fairness that was indeed kind of the Zorua's fault, but PK also handled it terribly. The Zorua was the color of its parent, a Ninetales (ironically), and that wasn't permitted. What was even dumber about that fiasco is Zorua are one of very few Pokemon (Zorua, Zoroark, Kecleon, Ditto) that can change their appearance at will. If they had, say, made it a plot point that he used illusions to make his fur look like his parent because he wanted to be like them, that'd make sense. And be totally permissible. Or make the red on his fur the color of Vulpix's. They did not. Also, in defense of PK (ugh), Kecleon can change every part of its body color wise except the band. That's canon and a mechanic.
I'm aware of the entire family thing, but what I was mentioning is it doesn't really work, if you had a Kecleon in the group (or any Pokemon that's function in game and in the Pokedex entry was the ability to change its colors) you could make it any color, too. (For instance, there was a white Kecleon owned by a member.) Similarly, if you had a zorua using illusion, that was fine, too (there was one that illusioned a skull on its face in the group and that was permitted). If you had a kecleon in the group it could be whatever color and have whatever markings (so long as the band didn't change), and it was permitted (as Kecleon was a Pokemon that canonically changes colors). There was no hypocrisy here.
"Kecleon is capable of changing its body colors at will to blend in with its surroundings. There is one exception - this Pokémon can't change the zigzag pattern on its belly." - Ruby Pokedex
In the show (and PMD games) it was shown to consistently just choose a color it liked and pick it. The rules were, if a Pokemon could do something canonically in the games, the member's characters could do it. So, in this case, there was no hypocrisy.
It's also worth noting, I'm only here to put in my 2 cents, what I know, and leave. So, yeah, my posts are long. Because I'm not here permanently. So don't worry.
Ah, that's fine, for the record, and anyone reading, if you want to skim my comments (or skip them entirely) and want only certain parts highlighted, tell me, and I'll happily skim through and link.
Also, what the fuck is that and when did that happen?? What??
What is that even from? Is that from the stupid past arc (that whole thing was a mary sue fest)? I'll admit I totally left the group at that point, I....what is that (it's a fucking trainwreck is what it is)??
And also, worry not, I've been planning to narrow my comments down in general. They've only been long because I had stuff to link and say, just an update. Now I don't have as much to say, so I plan to make them shorter (also they were boggled down by sources and images and the like, which made them look way bigger then they were in some of them). And I wasn't planning to leave because I was pressured to leave or anything, just not that much of an avid forum user. Also, no seriously, the fuck is that??
For fuck's sake there is one rule when it comes to Kecleon and they broke it (the band does not change color or have different markings). How is that even possible? And what are those things on his hands? What even, why? Why did they have to take something where they had pretty much infinite creative freedom (color wise), and still somehow make an exception for themselves and make it special snowflake (I mean this wouldn't even be a big deal if they didn't constantly mock people for it themselves). I mean I know he's sick, and since Kecleon change color with their mood this is a cool way to show it, but why put spots on the one part that doesn't change color (doesn't that kind of take from it), and what are with those hand things?? (Though, I guess this does point out a lot of problems in Floraverse, they're so busy making their characters special that they lose some subtlety and character in between.) OK, so, you're right. Definite double standards and hypocrisy in play here.
On the topic of PK breaking her own rules with her designs while members weren't allowed such things...
more "special" kecs, a rather... divergent weavile (these characters are PK's grandfathers)
I don't know what the policy was on Roselia's flowers but the Bellossom is the main offender here, and not even in a visually appealing way
Malt was a Miltank who identified as a male and he wasn't pink because.... reasons:
Also I'd like to add that a group named PMDUnity was born right after PMD-E's closure, with PMDU's creator getting advice on how to run it from PK herself. The PMDU creator was made admin of PMD-E after PK and Marl left and he was one of the people who got shat on by PK for not running the group the way she wanted, and in this, albeit it was not her intention to do so, she revealed that she really only cared about her own story. http://pmd-explorers.deviantart.com/journal/Closed-400797275 this is the journal that proclaimed the group's closure.
"But, that's something else I want to get at. I had trouble focusing completely when this was under someone else's leadership, mostly because watching it deteriorate was not fun and was incredibly distracting. It can't be helped if others have lives - they shouldn't be expected to carry out this vision since it was not their own. It was a selfish thing for me to hope for and expect, and a little foolish, at that.
To avoid being distracted, and to avoid the heartache of watching people fight to make the same mistakes I already overcame, I have to close submissions and journals to everyone."
Way to backhandedly call someone incompetent. And for what anyway? It's a pokemon group, it's not like people have to send resumes to apply for admin positions with these things.
PK really doesn't like PMDU because she thinks she had the most unique PMD themed roleplay group and she thinks PMDU is defacing PMD-E's memory, because PMDU is not run as efficiently. I'm not joking, I think the quote is in the counter-callout to Pengo but I don't feel like finding it again.
On the topic of PK breaking her own rules with her designs while members weren't allowed such things... View attachment 37629
more "special" kecs, a rather... divergent weavile (these characters are PK's grandfathers) View attachment 37630
I don't know what the policy was on Roselia's flowers but the Bellossom is the main offender here, and not even in a visually appealing way View attachment 37631
Malt was a Miltank who identified as a male and he wasn't pink because.... reasons: View attachment 37632
Also I'd like to add that a group named PMDUnity was born right after PMD-E's closure, with PMDU's creator getting advice on how to run it from PK herself. The PMDU creator was made admin of PMD-E after PK and Marl left and he was one of the people who got shat on by PK for not running the group the way she wanted, and in this, albeit it was not her intention to do so, she revealed that she really only cared about her own story. http://pmd-explorers.deviantart.com/journal/Closed-400797275 this is the journal that proclaimed the group's closure.
"But, that's something else I want to get at. I had trouble focusing completely when this was under someone else's leadership, mostly because watching it deteriorate was not fun and was incredibly distracting. It can't be helped if others have lives - they shouldn't be expected to carry out this vision since it was not their own. It was a selfish thing for me to hope for and expect, and a little foolish, at that.
To avoid being distracted, and to avoid the heartache of watching people fight to make the same mistakes I already overcame, I have to close submissions and journals to everyone."
Way to backhandedly call someone incompetent. And for what anyway? It's a pokemon group, it's not like people have to send resumes to apply for admin positions with these things.
PK really doesn't like PMDU because she thinks she had the most unique PMD themed roleplay group and she thinks PMDU is defacing PMD-E's memory, because PMDU is not run as efficiently. I'm not joking, I think the quote is in the counter-callout to Pengo but I don't feel like finding it again.
I had no idea about the way she treated her partners' girlfriends. It's like PK really wants to be the leading alpha female of the bunch, preferably the ONLY one. She is allowed to have whichever and how many parters she wants, but her boytoys? No, in their cases there must be quality control inspection in order for them to be allowed other relationships.
She treats them terribly. I remember seeing a post on their tumblr where Eevee was crushing on some girl and PK replied to the sorts of "No wonder Eevee likes them, all the girls he likes are retarded".
Eevee has his own history though. I remember there being some hub bub about him going to a furry convention underage and fucking a bunch of people and having a STD scare or something like that. I don't remember completely, this has been probably ten years ago now. And when he used to code for furaffinity, he also seemed oddly interested in allowing minors access to porn.
Malt was a Miltank who identified as a male and he wasn't pink because.... reasons:
https://static.kiwifarms.net/data/attachments/37/37708-6904de73c602a46764eb99dbb251c02d.jpg
This is interesting to me. What's interesting to me here especially is to some extent there's an addressment to dysphoria and trans issues being medical, which PK has gone back on so hardcore. It's not just the double standards, it's the implications afterwards. Also, Malt mattered so very little in the group I just forgot him (Edit: I just looked into this and realized that Malt was actually supposed to be kind of a big deal? And who was Winston (I think he used to work at the accessory shop, but I can't recall much else)? There's so many characters that were there (and apparently were supposed to be big deals?) that were just extensions of the main admins' characters that I just forgot them.).
Wow, the Kecleons became so stupid after I stopped paying attention, I had no idea (sorry again, @MayMay (though I should have remembered the bellossom and I'm sorry about that)), dark/psychic? Really? How did it get 2 typings? Did they get punched the exact same time by 2 different Pokemon? Also, I flat out forgot that bellossom. I never ran into it in the story (there were so many NPCs that just did not matter).
As for PMDU, I actually found it's decline somewhat amusing. For the record, quite a few people working on it were hardcore PK kiss asses, that would absolutely talk down to anyone who criticized PK or didn't like their policies. One of which joined my friends private join me to rant why she should rejoin PMD, and when we mentioned our issues with it he kept messaging us and trying to correct us (especially me.). Some of them would get flat out vicious about it. And the ground PK walked on was perfect, and if you criticized them you were an idiot, apparently. So this happening is rather like karmic justice for at least some of them. For the rest of them, yeah, I feel genuinely bad for them.
Eevee was crushing on some girl and PK replied to the sorts of "No wonder Eevee likes them, all the girls he likes are retarded".
This seems to be a thing PK and him share, what is up with this? It's really creepy, I know PK seemed to really want minors to look at porn, too (and would force anything they could in their faces, which only becomes more questionable with their preference for underage characters, which I mean fetish is fetish, but the behavior added on is really suspicious). In fact, ironically, Marl was the only one I saw that didn't pull this crap (that I saw, I could be remembering wrong).
I don't know, one of the admins of PMDU is in common with PMD-E, and that's Luvaci, whose writing got exponentially worse with time.
The PMDU admin brings another account on how disagreeable PK is, though in his case, he feels bad for making her angry. The problem with this guy is that he gotta stand up for himself more. On one hand, many in PMDU praise him for being much nicer and more communicative than PK, on the other hand, if I was in his place, I'd never blame myself for not fitting in PK's clique. http://teamquickwork.tumblr.com/post/68858864710/the-feeling-of-unintentionally-hurting-a-friend
However this thread is not about this person. In regards to PK, this rant is more proof of how hard it is to just get along with her. I like how he backhandedly describes her as a bitch, just as PK backhandedly described the new admins of PMD-E as useless. This is also tangentially relevant to her lulzy argument with Lexy and Marl when they both cheated on her with another woman.
I don't know, one of the admins of PMDU is in common with PMD-E, and that's Luvaci, whose writing got exponentially worse with time.
The PMDU admin brings another account on how disagreeable PK is, though in his case, he feels bad for making her angry. The problem with this guy is that he needs a better spine. On one hand, many in PMDU praise him for being much nicer and more communicative than PK, on the other hand, if I was in his place, I'd never blame myself for not fitting in PK's clique. http://teamquickwork.tumblr.com/post/68858864710/the-feeling-of-unintentionally-hurting-a-friend
However this thread is not about this person. In regards to PK, this rant is more proof of how hard it is to just get along with her. I like how he backhandedly describes her as a bitch, just as PK backhandedly described the new admins of PMD-E as useless. This is also tangentially relevant to her lulzy argument with Lexy and Marl when they both cheated on her with another woman.
Oh, Sundance? I don't know anything about Sundance. I was talking about another guy (not Luvaci, either). Sundance was one of the ones I was mentioning feeling bad for. Specifically, the guy I was mentioning seemed to become an admin towards the end, I thought he was one of the ones temporarily brought in to run the group at the end, but I could be wrong? (I do know he's an admin of PMDU now, though.) I could mention the name if you wanted? Edit: Oh, I looked into it, and I guess he wasn't a moderator of PMD-E. He did however become a rather big mod of PMDU. Sorry for the confusion.
Also, ugh, why does it seem like PK just becomes worse and worse? Goodness, it's so sad to read. Poor guy. It's even sadder when you go to PMDU and you can see him flailing trying to get the thing running. Ugh, seems like some of the mods just left him to flail on his own if I'm not mistaken? Poor guy.
He was really brave to say this stuff though, but did he get torn apart for it?
"but it made me realise that I’ve actually contributed very little as a ‘friend’. I would inquire on her wellbeing, offer to help where I could, or draw her gifts now and then, but thinking back, I don’t think my contributions were ever that convenient to her beyond minor timesavers. We’re quite different as people, we hang out in different circles and have different world views. Originally I’d brushed that aside and convinced myself I would work through it and learn to understand her better, but ugh."
He's blaming himself for trying to help her, holy shit. This is actually really depressing, I hope he genuinely realizes this wasn't his fault someday.
Edit:
"Why am I actually so concerned about seeking the approval of one person? There are plenty of times where I’ve been very disappointed in PK’s behavior myself, and swallowed it because speaking out in the past had gotten me in the bad books. The few times speaking out was successful, it left a bitter aftertaste and made me look like a fire starter. I guess, it’s because I wanted so badly to look past her flaws and find a person I could really get along with."
Man, this stuff makes me so sad. This seems to be a common theme, and I'm getting more and more worried about each of them. This can't be healthy for any of them, and I wonder what damage it does to your self worth. I just hope all of them become healthier when they get away, and that they all do. I'm glad he's at least somewhat capable of admitting there was quite a bit of fault on PK here.
This seems to be a thing PK and him share, what is up with this? It's really creepy, I know PK seemed to really want minors to look at porn, too (and would force anything they could in their faces, which only becomes more questionable with their preference for underage characters, which I mean fetish is fetish, but the behavior added on is really suspicious). In fact, ironically, Marl was the only one I saw that didn't pull this crap (that I saw, I could be remembering wrong).
I don't know, I was hoping it was just one of those friend-jabs people do when people are close friends, but I'm having a hard time believing that to be the case.
Because Eevee was looking at porn when he was underage and because PK was producing porn when she was underage. I think she's been drawing it since she was at least 15? I mean I think she even produced art for SoftPaw which is a cub porn comic when she was underage. I have no idea what her age is now but that softpaw issue was pressed in November 2008 so whoever has her age can figure out the math there.
As for Marl not doing it, I have no idea. Though if the information I read was correct, isn't he -way- older than PK? And didn't he and PK marry when she was only like 16 or something?
