Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[LORD IMPERATOR]

hence me saying sum greater than it's parts. the individual parts are nothing extraordinary, it's the combination (and a good dose of luck). even the special effects are debatable because at some point some else would've come up with it, you can only be stagnant for so long (boy this is gonna bring in the ratings).

it's also easy to go backwards with "unpopular = shit" - that's not how it works.

Each individual part had to be extraordinary. The characterization had to be good. The atmosphere and music had to be good. The special effects had to be good by their time's standards. Part of the reason why Star Wars worked so well is because everything, from the character dynamics, to the mysticism, to the action, atmosphere, and music, were all done superbly. It's not the sum being greater than its parts, it's more akin to every part being great and once put together, became an even greater thing.

And it's not even about popularity or being unpopular, since the OT's charm was enduring over time, meaning that it withstood the test of time and the moodswings of people deciding what is popular and what isn't.

average means between good and bad. there's a scale, not absolutes. also "good" in terms of personal enjoyment is highly subjective (obviously).
and even shit stuff that gets elevated by the brand, which means people will buy (and sometimes enjoy it) because it's the brand. that's how it works. remember, TFA made 2 billion, and TROS made 1 billion. one man's trash is another man's treasure. and again, since it's a scale even 7/10 stuff can be "good", especially when you can't constantly output 10/10 stuff.

But here's the thing; both TFA AND TROS are mocked and derided by fans because they're shit. You can't just slap Star Wars onto something and call it a day, or else your work will be derided by fans. They bought the ticket based on the brand name, but their judgement of the work's quality came after they experienced and bought it. Hence why despite selling well, TFA, TROS, and TLJ are still mocked by the fans. Whereas GOOD Star Wars works like the Jedi Knight games, the Thrawn Trilogy, the KOTOR games, the Tartakovsky Clone Wars cartoon, among others, can stand tall as good examples of SW media that the fans come back to, because they are good works of fiction set within the SW universe.

transplanting a story and make it fit the new universe also has nothing to do with the quality of the story itself, but your adaption. you can have the best story in the world, but if you don't care to properly set it in it's new framework it doesn't matter when the rules don't make sense and the story you want to tell completely absurd.

Of course, of course. But if your story is shit, it doesn't matter if you took care to properly set it in its new framework or if you cite other parts of SW lore, because it's still shit. The Traviss books cited other EU works like the KOTOR comics, but that doesn't make them good, nor does that absolve them from the fact that they were badly-written Mary Sue books that had really one-sided characterizations which the fans mocked.

again, that's why I said "the better the latter the less distractions you need."
but following that logic, there was plenty of great stuff 100, 500, 1000 years ago you don't even remember - does that mean they're shit? because after all they can't have been this great if people forgot about them. and what about people that like trash? ed wood movies are by and large considered pretty crappy, won't stand the test of time and are objectively not good at all, yet there are plenty of people that enjoyed them, time and time again for decades. why is that?

No, because once people do dig up that good "forgotten" stuff and bring them back into the public consciousness, people begin to like those old things again. Like how people got tired of 80s movies and forgot about them by the time of the 90s and the early 2000s, but now, people are revisiting such classics and they like them again, hence why a lot of modern media is based on 80s nostalgia, because people are re-awakening their love of 80s stuff. Shakespeare is still critically acclaimed after hundreds of years, and the same goes for the Greek Tragedies.

Ed Wood movies are enjoyed by people who love the fact that they're bad. It's basically a case of "it's so bad, it's good" kind of thing, like how The Room was unintentionally hilarious and it became a cult classic, not because of quality, but because of how funny its cringe moments were.

 

[jspit2.0]

hence me saying sum greater than it's parts. the individual parts are nothing extraordinary, it's the combination (and a good dose of luck). even the special effects are debatable because at some point some else would've come up with it, you can only be stagnant for so long (boy this is gonna bring in the ratings).

it's also easy to go backwards with "unpopular = shit" - that's not how it works.



average means between good and bad. there's a scale, not absolutes. also "good" in terms of personal enjoyment is highly subjective (obviously).
and even shit stuff that gets elevated by the brand, which means people will buy (and sometimes enjoy it) because it's the brand. that's how it works. remember, TFA made 2 billion, and TROS made 1 billion. one man's trash is another man's treasure. and again, since it's a scale even 7/10 stuff can be "good", especially when you can't constantly output 10/10 stuff.

transplanting a story and make it fit the new universe also has nothing to do with the quality of the story itself, but your adaption. you can have the best story in the world, but if you don't care to properly set it in it's new framework it doesn't matter when the rules don't make sense and the story you want to tell completely absurd.



again, that's why I said "the better the latter the less distractions you need."
but following that logic, there was plenty of great stuff 100, 500, 1000 years ago you don't even remember - does that mean they're shit? because after all they can't have been this great if people forgot about them. and what about people that like trash? ed wood movies are by and large considered pretty crappy, won't stand the test of time and are objectively not good at all, yet there are plenty of people that enjoyed them, time and time again for decades. why is that?

Each individual part had to be extraordinary. The characterization had to be good. The atmosphere and music had to be good. The special effects had to be good by their time's standards. Part of the reason why Star Wars worked so well is because everything, from the character dynamics, to the mysticism, to the action, atmosphere, and music, were all done superbly. It's not the sum being greater than its parts, it's more akin to every part being great and once put together, became an even greater thing.

And it's not even about popularity or being unpopular, since the OT's charm was enduring over time, meaning that it withstood the test of time and the moodswings of people deciding what is popular and what isn't.


But here's the thing; both TFA AND TROS are mocked and derided by fans because they're shit. You can't just slap Star Wars onto something and call it a day, or else your work will be derided by fans. They bought the ticket based on the brand name, but their judgement of the work's quality came after they experienced and bought it. Hence why despite selling well, TFA, TROS, and TLJ are still mocked by the fans. Whereas GOOD Star Wars works like the Jedi Knight games, the Thrawn Trilogy, the KOTOR games, the Tartakovsky Clone Wars cartoon, among others, can stand tall as good examples of SW media that the fans come back to, because they are good works of fiction set within the SW universe.


Of course, of course. But if your story is shit, it doesn't matter if you took care to properly set it in its new framework or if you cite other parts of SW lore, because it's still shit. The Traviss books cited other EU works like the KOTOR comics, but that doesn't make them good, nor does that absolve them from the fact that they were badly-written Mary Sue books that had really one-sided characterizations which the fans mocked.


No, because once people do dig up that good "forgotten" stuff and bring them back into the public consciousness, people begin to like those old things again. Like how people got tired of 80s movies and forgot about them by the time of the 90s and the early 2000s, but now, people are revisiting such classics and they like them again, hence why a lot of modern media is based on 80s nostalgia, because people are re-awakening their love of 80s stuff. Shakespeare is still critically acclaimed after hundreds of years, and the same goes for the Greek Tragedies.

Ed Wood movies are enjoyed by people who love the fact that they're bad. It's basically a case of "it's so bad, it's good" kind of thing, like how The Room was unintentionally hilarious and it became a cult classic, not because of quality, but because of how funny its cringe moments were.

Gentlemen, gentlemen.

Mine is bigger than both of yours.

 

[Mississippi Motorboater]

He revealed Disney's primary shift towards streaming and was "surprised" to learn that over 50% of the Disney+ subscribers were adults without children...

Somehow I feel that this is relevant to the Consoomer Thread...

it's also easy to go backwards with "unpopular = shit" - that's not how it works.

Indeed. LOTF is a subject of derision for a good chunk of the EU Readerbase, but I still love it regardless, just as much as I love NJO...which was also incredibly unpopular when it came out.

If we start assessing Star Wars Media by its popularity, then that'll mean assigning Filoni Wars and Rebels the position of "greatest Star Wars stories ever told", simply because of the autistic horde of fanboys that swarm both of those shows like fruit flies.

 

[Adamska]

Before I respond spam, on Black Superman: I'd legit prefer it if it was just Steel in a DC universe where he won the Reign of the Supermen if that was the angle they were going for. It's actually kind of pathetic whenever they have to Blackify someone because they're either too ignorant or too scared of using actual ethnic characters.

John Henry Irons deserves better.

Obi-Wan has apparently cast Indira Varma. Probably as an inquisitor? Got to parse through the intersectionality bullshit.

Probably. Who knows, maybe they'll really fuck up and shove the Disney canon Tusken culture where they're Not-Muslims down your throat by using the brown person. Fuck if I know.

LFM is reporting rumors that Hera, another Filoni OC from Rebels, will replace Cara Dun in Rangers. I think this was planted to see fan reaction.

Nahh, Wolf Fucker Filoni probably planted it because he wanted to use the character at some point, and Gina's firing allows him to give her a bigger role than he expected to at the time. He is the type of asshole who spams all his works with his OCs.

They're apparently releasing some Sequel Trilogy Merch! Coming in September you to can own what is pretty much a Stormtrooper helmet! Only 100 bucks!

At least 100k retards bought it already I bet.

Doomcuck is continuing his Civil War narrative. Midnight's Edge continues to follow this narrative, tying fact and theory together as well as you can. It's just not plausible for KK and Jon Favreau to be at war and for Carano to get fired out from under him.

If there was a civil war, Mando would've had far more production troubles and they'd be struggling even more to release anything. I fully believe that most of the major problems is entirely due to a lack of communication between corporate wings when making products, not having a plan, and being spitefully incompetent on the creative and directing force here. Is there some tension? Probably, but it's more of a Kennedy getting pissy over not having full control over all projects to project her 50 year old insecurities over being a diversity hire. Favreau has and will go woke. Filoni only cares about Filoni's OCs. In reality it's all the same slop that they've been pumping out ever since they acquired the licensing.

Doomcock is an attention seeking sped who might as well get a paycheck from Disney for keeping the retarded hatewatchers on board the Rat's Ride.

EFAP, who have their own thread on here and who built their channel hating on the Sequels, have been oddly silent. They took some blowback for applying their obnoxious, nitpicking criticism to Mando. They appear to be focusing more on the DCEU as a safer bet.

They only are because they know people will watch spergs try and fail to do hottakes endlessly. These idiots take 5 minutes to tell a 30 second joke, and they cry and whine about "objective and deep criticism" for their own incompetence at being brief and effective and conveying a tone.

They are Polonius, a batch of loquacious windbags who have delusions of adequacy when it comes to comedy. A lot who casually mistakes word count for impact.

They're all missing the point. This shit has killed the momentum. You had something that was working. It shouldn't have worked. It wasn't very good. But people bought in. They bought into it on here. They couldn't accept a win and now? Now the cornerstone of Disney's current financial revenue is threatened because of a literal fucking Karen and her flying monkeys.

Don't worry, Disney will somehow find a way to fuck this up harder. It's the only thing they're good at.

Hera is one of the better Disney-era characters, and yeah this is probably fan bait, but I would really hope they don't do this. I mean, she's been fighting since before A New Hope, and she has a son now. Let her go off and be a mother and enjoy some years of peace and happiness, for crying out loud.

Nope. Filoni is an imbecile that doesn't give a shit about arcs and plot. Just set pieces and his OCs. They will endlessly fight until the fat cowboy wannabe actually has to kill them... probably while crying too given he invented fucking time travel to prevent Asoka's death.

Spacebattles is also filled to the brim with fart huffers who take their imaginary vs shit and views way too seriously.

It sucks to me because finding stories that aren't shittastic crossovers or is not choked with Worms shit is like trying to deep dive into a dumpster to find a nickel.

So apparently Bob Chapek spoke at a Telecommunications conference the other day about the future of Disney and things going forward.

https://wdwnt.com/2021/03/bob-chapek-talks-about-disney-at-morgan-stanley-conference-users-watch-history-could-shape-disney-parks-vacation-planning/

He revealed Disney's primary shift towards streaming and was "surprised" to learn that over 50% of the Disney+ subscribers were adults without children... Color me shocked. He brings up Marvel quite a bit but he barely mentions SW. Just saying that he doesn't feel there will be a fatigue towards Marvel shit or "Lucasfilm". He also mentions one of the Galaxy's Edge rides and how he plans to use Disney+ to help mold the parks to create the "perfect park".

By shoving more stores in it because Chapek is a cheapskate who will not put money into ANYTHING unless he has to. Also not shocking that Consoomers who only watch capeshit makes up a majority of their stuff. They're the only people who lack the restraint to not spam their wallets for shit from 20 - 40 years ago, IE when Disney had their fucking renaissance.

And I fully expect Marvel will pop; it just takes a couple of awful movies to kill the momentum and Stage 4 ain't lookin' good. I don't know where I heard the rumor from (prolly Doomcuck tbh at some point) but I swear that one of their plans was to have the final films being a fight over Franklin Richards, who is in fact Black Namor's kid after cucking Reed for being a nerd.

I swear I heard this as a leak somewhere.

Its a whole lot of nothing and investor ass kissing while hiding any drama and bullshit, but its amusing that he admits that the majority of Disney+ aficionados are manchildren, although there's a good chance a lot of them just have it for free.

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Disturbingly fitting.

I mean I do know initial numbers were inflated by people who had free trial accounts, so I'd not be shocked if that was still used as a metric to lie to the investors.

Disney spends more time doing that than actually earning them money.

I disagree. Disney+ has an insane library of ill gotten goods. From Star Wars to Fox properties. It's a full service despite Disney's lack of creativity due to the sheer number of poached content from acquisitions. Now, whether they get to keep all those licenses....

Any bail out should require them to disgorge Fox at the very least.

Disney is not going to sell Fox because Iger, who I suspect is still in charge with Chapek as the stooge in the firing line, is a weak and pathetic man who will refuse reality because he doesn't want to believe his strategy of IP Assimilation fucked up the company.

You'd need to cut him out like a tumor before Disney considers doing that.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Gentlemen, gentlemen.

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Mine is bigger than both of yours.

It's kind of weird that the Darth Vader knockoff had the green saber ring.

 

[Uranus Pink]

It sucks to me because finding stories that aren't shittastic crossovers or is not choked with Worms shit is like trying to deep dive into a dumpster to find a nickel.

I seriously have to question your cognitive functions for going to SB forum for non crossover fanfics regardless of their quality or lack there of.

Although I will agree with you on the Worms bullshit as it infests all of the forum except for Non Sci Fi Debates (which is turbo rectalcancer personify), War Room and the Anime subforum.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Somehow I feel that this is relevant to the Consoomer Thread...

Considering that it's dealing with consumers, I'd say yes.

Indeed. LOTF is a subject of derision for a good chunk of the EU Readerbase, but I still love it regardless, just as much as I love NJO...which was also incredibly unpopular when it came out.

LOTF is probably hated more because of the fact that it's a work that A) had people acting out of character (I'm looking at YOU, Jaina) and B) too many cooks in the kitchen with opposing agendas. So even the Mando-spergs who loved Karen Traviss' bit of it didn't like the other bits where the Mandos were no match for Darth Caedus. As I said, just because it has a Star Wars label slapped onto it, doesn't mean it will be automatically loved, especially if the story has all the direction of a concussed orangutan and characterizations are about as consistent as Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

If we start assessing Star Wars Media by its popularity, then that'll mean assigning Filoni Wars and Rebels the position of "greatest Star Wars stories ever told", simply because of the autistic horde of fanboys that swarm both of those shows like fruit flies.

Well, those shows did have a sense of adventure and fun for all their flaws. Not to mention many people grew up with them as Baby's First Star Wars. The boomers and Gen X had the Original Trilogy, the Millennials had the KOTOR games and the Prequels, and Gen Z has the Clone Wars and Rebels. Compared to LOTF which tried to introduce a more grimdark "every side is full of assholes" kind of thing, Filoni Wars at least had a clear line of which side was good or bad. At least having one director for an over-arching plot, no matter how incompetent he is, would produce a certain "consistency" that a book series which had authors with opposing viewpoints wouldn't have.

Before I respond spam, on Black Superman: I'd legit prefer it if it was just Steel in a DC universe where he won the Reign of the Supermen if that was the angle they were going for. It's actually kind of pathetic whenever they have to Blackify someone because they're either too ignorant or too scared of using actual ethnic characters.

John Henry Irons deserves better.

As I said; just give John Henry Irons Kryptonian powers. He already was one of the "Supermen" who took over after the original Superman "died" to Doomsday. Just have Lex Luthor invent some machine that was designed to give himself Kryptonian powers, have Steel sabotage that, and have said machine hit Steel before it explodes, and voila, there's your black Superman.

Nahh, Wolf Fucker Filoni probably planted it because he wanted to use the character at some point, and Gina's firing allows him to give her a bigger role than he expected to at the time. He is the type of asshole who spams all his works with his OCs.

That, and the Rebels fans will thank him for it.

Nope. Filoni is an imbecile that doesn't give a shit about arcs and plot. Just set pieces and his OCs. They will endlessly fight until the fat cowboy wannabe actually has to kill them... probably while crying too given he invented fucking time travel to prevent Asoka's death.

He basically wants to play with his OCs as Star Wars' new heroes. Which could work, if only they had the balls to erase the Sequels. Which Filoni doesn't have. The Sequels are the albatross tied to the neck of Disney Wars, if they got rid of them and replaced them with Filoni Wars, they'll have united most of the fandom into one whole again. But they don't, because blah blah, TLJ was feminist. The SJW crowd would never forgive them if they retconned the Sequels out of existence, even though that is the most profitable move to make right now.

And I fully expect Marvel will pop; it just takes a couple of awful movies to kill the momentum and Stage 4 ain't lookin' good. I don't know where I heard the rumor from (prolly Doomcuck tbh at some point) but I swear that one of their plans was to have the final films being a fight over Franklin Richards, who is in fact Black Namor's kid after cucking Reed for being a nerd.

Even Stephen Spielberg thinks that capeshit will "go the way of the western." MCU's momentum died with Thanos, everything else afterwards is just them beating a dead horse. At this point, the Snyder Cut of Justice League might even have more of a chance of drawing in fans when compared to the MCU.

I mean I do know initial numbers were inflated by people who had free trial accounts, so I'd not be shocked if that was still used as a metric to lie to the investors.

Lying to their investors, once again. If Disney didn't have the best lawyers in town, their investors would have had them thrown in jail by now.

 

[The Valeyard]

And I fully expect Marvel will pop; it just takes a couple of awful movies to kill the momentum and Stage 4 ain't lookin' good. I don't know where I heard the rumor from (prolly Doomcuck tbh at some point) but I swear that one of their plans was to have the final films being a fight over Franklin Richards, who is in fact Black Namor's kid after cucking Reed for being a nerd.

I feel like Phase 4 is going to stumble earlier than that with the Eternals movie.

Like the Guardians of the Galaxy they are largely unknown to mainstream audiences, and with Thanos gone while also not being an Eternal as he was in the comics why should anyone give a shit?

 

[Dixieland Buckaroo]

Another new property is in the works....
"'Star Wars' Movie In the Works With J.D. Dillard, Matt Owens (Exclusive) | Hollywood Reporter" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-movie-works-jd-dillard-matt-owens-1280459

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I say property because they don't even know of it's a movie, d+ thing, or whatever.

 

[Oats12345]

Another new property is in the works....
"'Star Wars' Movie In the Works With J.D. Dillard, Matt Owens (Exclusive) | Hollywood Reporter" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-movie-works-jd-dillard-matt-owens-1280459

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I say property because they don't even know of it's a movie, d+ thing, or whatever.

Wonder will this will go

 

[Syaoran Li]

Doomcuck is continuing his Civil War narrative. Midnight's Edge continues to follow this narrative, tying fact and theory together as well as you can. It's just not plausible for KK and Jon Favreau to be at war and for Carano to get fired out from under him.

Doomcock's an attention whore and a copium peddler but I would not be surprised if Gina Carano's cancellation might be one of the things that kicks off an internal civil war within Disney now that Iger's fucked off with his golden parachute and has his fall guy Chapek in the boss's chair.

The MCU has definitely peaked and the moment they get one box office bomb, it's game over for capeshit. The way things are looking, Endgame's gonna be the last hurrah for the 2010's capeshit fad with the Snyder Cut of Justice League serving as an epilogue of sorts and Eternals may very well do to capeshit what Heaven's Gate did to the Western genre.

The Mandalorian was the one thing from Nu-Wars that was actually selling and appealed to both the old fans and the dangerhairs and beardos that bow down to Disney and the Woke Left.

And now it's gonna be done for.

COVID-19 buttfucked Disney's finances in terms of theaters and parks, but now Florida's opening up and so have a few other red states while Cuomo is getting thrown under the bus by his own party while Newsom is at risk of being recalled.

Disney can only milk the Corona train for so long and if this actually does impact them with Disney+ subscribers going down, there very well could be a civil war between the Woke Left true believers and the ones who just want to keep making money.

Doomcock is wrong about an internal power struggle at Disney but I wouldn't be surprised if there is one close on the horizon and the Carano controversy ends up becoming the Harper's Ferry to a civil war at the offices of The Rat.

 

[Ghostse]

That is funny. Most of it being manchilden how much I bet you there the crybabies on Twitter

Hey, whoa there chief

You forgot about the wine aunts and cat ladies.

Another new property is in the works....
"'Star Wars' Movie In the Works With J.D. Dillard, Matt Owens (Exclusive) | Hollywood Reporter" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-movie-works-jd-dillard-matt-owens-1280459

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I say property because they don't even know of it's a movie, d+ thing, or whatever.

I'll believe it when checks are cashed, but I'd give this one more credit than most.

 

[Oats12345]

Doomcock's an attention whore and a copium peddler but I would not be surprised if Gina Carano's cancellation might be one of the things that kicks off an internal civil war within Disney now that Iger's fucked off with his golden parachute and has his fall guy Chapek in the boss's chair.

The MCU has definitely peaked and the moment they get one box office bomb, it's game over for capeshit. The way things are looking, Endgame's gonna be the last hurrah for the 2010's capeshit fad with the Snyder Cut of Justice League serving as an epilogue of sorts and Eternals may very well do to capeshit what Heaven's Gate did to the Western genre.

The Mandalorian was the one thing from Nu-Wars that was actually selling and appealed to both the old fans and the dangerhairs and beardos that bow down to Disney and the Woke Left.

And now it's gonna be done for.

COVID-19 buttfucked Disney's finances in terms of theaters and parks, but now Florida's opening up and so have a few other red states while Cuomo is getting thrown under the bus by his own party while Newsom is at risk of being recalled.

Disney can only milk the Corona train for so long and if this actually does impact them with Disney+ subscribers going down, there very well could be a civil war between the Woke Left true believers and the ones who just want to keep making money.

Doomcock is wrong about an internal power struggle at Disney but I wouldn't be surprised if there is one close on the horizon and the Carano controversy ends up becoming the Harper's Ferry to a civil war at the offices of The Rat.

I would love too see if Gina's firing cause some actors and crew members to jump ship. It would be cool and poetic to me

 

[Kane Lives]

I seriously have to question your cognitive functions for going to SB forum for non crossover fanfics regardless of their quality or lack there of.

Although I will agree with you on the Worms bullshit as it infests all of the forum except for Non Sci Fi Debates (which is turbo rectalcancer personify), War Room and the Anime subforum.

Off-topic but is Worms that extremely autistic web serial that every nu-hipster tries to peddle as some new age Tolkien in late 00s, early 10s despite it being capeshit at its core? Because that shit's autistic as fuck.

 

[Uranus Pink]

Off-topic but is Worms that extremely autistic web serial that every nu-hipster tries to peddle as some new age Tolkien in late 00s, early 10s despite it being capeshit at its core? Because that shit's autistic as fuck.

That is the one and unfortunately for me and others the Worms fanatics have an overly large presence at Spacebattles. Biggest saving grace is they're not obnoxious, offensive to other forum members or banned people like with the mods who're NuShe-Ra fans.

 

[starborn427614]

I thought Worms was a video game. I'm getting too old for this shit.

 

[Creep3r]

Saw this in another thread and thought it was worth sharing here:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/stop-mocking-wandavisions-line-about-grief.85933/page-2#post-8449280

A new copypasta has been born courtesy of a "film expert" and Disney Fandalorian.

Dude's reply took off as a copypasta immediately. He went back and forth being "lol i trol u" to "im gonna fuckin kill myself" all night. Somebody found his instagram and it's exactly as you'd expect.

A JJ family member perhaps? Certainly has collected quite a lot of soy.

Doomcock's an attention whore and a copium peddler but I would not be surprised if Gina Carano's cancellation might be one of the things that kicks off an internal civil war within Disney now that Iger's fucked off with his golden parachute and has his fall guy Chapek in the boss's chair.

The MCU has definitely peaked and the moment they get one box office bomb, it's game over for capeshit. The way things are looking, Endgame's gonna be the last hurrah for the 2010's capeshit fad with the Snyder Cut of Justice League serving as an epilogue of sorts and Eternals may very well do to capeshit what Heaven's Gate did to the Western genre.

The Mandalorian was the one thing from Nu-Wars that was actually selling and appealed to both the old fans and the dangerhairs and beardos that bow down to Disney and the Woke Left.

And now it's gonna be done for.

COVID-19 buttfucked Disney's finances in terms of theaters and parks, but now Florida's opening up and so have a few other red states while Cuomo is getting thrown under the bus by his own party while Newsom is at risk of being recalled.

Disney can only milk the Corona train for so long and if this actually does impact them with Disney+ subscribers going down, there very well could be a civil war between the Woke Left true believers and the ones who just want to keep making money.

Doomcock is wrong about an internal power struggle at Disney but I wouldn't be surprised if there is one close on the horizon and the Carano controversy ends up becoming the Harper's Ferry to a civil war at the offices of The Rat.

My only concern (in that what might stop that from happening) is if Disney cooks the books again, and its also a lot easier to feign success through streaming. Also if Iger really is made ambassador of China and Disney gets a lot more benefits from the government, that could really prevent any good shit from happening. Otherwise you are right for the most part. But even if Eternals is a failure, I can see Disney and the shills trying to spin that as being the fault of it being a new IP or X-Men replacement rather than a sign of the capeshit bubble starting to pop.

Another new property is in the works....
"'Star Wars' Movie In the Works With J.D. Dillard, Matt Owens (Exclusive) | Hollywood Reporter" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-movie-works-jd-dillard-matt-owens-1280459

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I say property because they don't even know of it's a movie, d+ thing, or whatever.

Ah, so they're going back to the annual movie nonsense... Surely this won't backfire...

 

[starborn427614]

Saw this in another thread and thought it was worth sharing here:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/stop-mocking-wandavisions-line-about-grief.85933/page-2#post-8449280

A new copypasta has been born courtesy of a "film expert" and Disney Fandalorian.
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A JJ family member perhaps? Certainly has collected quite a lot of soy.


My only concern (in that what might stop that from happening) is if Disney cooks the books again, and its also a lot easier to feign success through streaming. Also if Iger really is made ambassador of China and Disney gets a lot more benefits from the government, that could really prevent any good shit from happening. Otherwise you are right for the most part. But even if Eternals is a failure, I can see Disney and the shills trying to spin that as being the fault of it being a new IP or X-Men replacement rather than a sign of the capeshit bubble starting to pop.


Ah, so they're going back to the annual movie nonsense... Surely this won't backfire...

So that makes like what...5 ongoing movies? Rogue Squadron, Taika's thing, Rian's trilogy(?) and now this. That's a bit much IMO, I'm more interested in the shows.

 

[Uranus Pink]

I thought Worms was a video game. I'm getting too old for this shit.

That would be the older and much beloved franchise with worms hellbent on killing each other with exploding sheep, grandmas, holy hand grenades among other creative weapons of (mass) destruction.

 

[The Valeyard]

That would be the older and much beloved franchise with worms hellbent on killing each other with exploding sheep, grandmas, holy hand grenades among other creative weapons of (mass) destruction.

Which has unfortunately jumped on the battle royale train with Worms Rumble.