U.S. Riots of May 2020 over George Floyd and others - ITT: a bunch of faggots butthurt about worthless internet stickers

[X Prime]

You already lost whatever silly argument you were trying to make when you called the overrated Capitol jaywalking incident an "insurrection" and using it as an example of anything.

There's a reason you're asking to imagine the idea of the far-right taking any sort of power: it's farcical, the stuff of delusion and fantasy in the easily-led center-liberal and center-right. As repeatedly explained, and helpfully illustrated by @Tathagata's example, there is no elite backing for it that makes it possible in the modern day.

It's ironic that you complain about Baby Boomers so much, because you just used very fearful Boomer reasoning. Disgraceful.

 

[DeadFish]

Ok. Imagine Q-Anon and the far-right having the same influence and power as the Left today. Eventually, an extremist group will eat itself. The Capitol insurrection demonstrated what happened when push comes to shove.

Point being, NOBODY should have this amount of power that the Left has now.

Yet you as a black person helped them get that amount of power.

Notice most Democrats screaming "racism" are white and had connections to the klan.

 

[The Last Stand]

Yet you as a black person helped them get that amount of power.

Notice most Democrats screaming "racism" are white and had connections to the klan.

What in God's name do I have to do with how our government works?

I'm assuming you're saying I just vote Democrat, no questions asked.

You already lost whatever silly argument you were trying to make when you called the overrated Capitol jaywalking incident an "insurrection" and using it as an example of anything.

There's a reason you're asking to imagine the idea of the far-right taking any sort of power: it's farcical, the stuff of delusion and fantasy in the easily-led center-liberal and center-right. As repeatedly explained, and helpfully illustrated by @Tathagata's example, there is no elite backing for it that makes it possible in the modern day.

It's ironic that you complain about Baby Boomers so much, because you just used very fearful Boomer reasoning. Disgraceful.

Half the time I cannot tell if you're arguing in good faith or just to get a rise out of me.

My point being was that anybody possessing the influence that the Left has now can only prove drastic consequences for a country.

Terms such as "left" and "right" cannot work without context in a political argument.

 

[ForTheHoard]

The odds of a conviction are very slim, but the point is the bankrupt and ruin him with the process no matter what. The Feds have all the taxpayer money they want to bring to bear, while Chauvins attorneys cannot be paid in innocence.

I wouldn't really know but shouldn't Chauvin's public union be providing his legal defense? Is he still with the union even though the department fired him for following their policies? Make we wonder if he walks away from this without any charges sticking, can he call a Lin Wood type and start lopping heads with civil suits?

 

[X Prime]

Half the time I cannot tell if you're arguing in good faith or just to get a rise out of me.

My point being was that anybody possessing the influence that the Left has now can only prove drastic consequences for a country.

Terms such as "left" and "right" cannot work without context in a political argument.

As I said, you lost whatever point you had in muddling the waters by bringing up the Capitol protest. If anything that only proves my point, in that such a milquetoast event provoked such universal massive rage in upper class circles, that any fears of some kind of right-wing traditionalist uprising are foolish.

Worrying about "but what is the Dreaded Trads gain power?!" is just bothsidesism, a refuge for either the easily-scared or the people invested in social wedge issues.

 

[The Last Stand]

I wouldn't really know but shouldn't Chauvin's public union be providing his legal defense? Is he still with the union even though the department fired him for following their policies? Make we wonder if he walks away from this without any charges sticking, can he call a Lin Wood type and start lopping heads with civil suits?

They put the fence up because I'm certain that people will take matters in their own hands.

As I said, you lost whatever point you had in muddling the waters by bringing up the Capitol protest. If anything that only proves my point, in that such a milquetoast event provoked such universal massive rage in upper class circles, that any fears of some kind of right-wing traditionalist uprising are foolish.

Worrying about "but what is the Dreaded Trads gain power?!" is just bothsidesism, a refuge for either the easily-scared or the people invested in social wedge issues.

Calling the insurrection milequetoast is like calling the BLM protests peaceful.

There is a lot to dissect from that insurrection (1/6) but that would take time to form a coherent analysis without much bias.

The one hope for the Republican Party to preserve their values in a modern world is to denounce the alt right, particularly the "what are we conservating" types as Nick Fuentes or the conspiracy theories as Q.

Unfortunately, it's a losing battle with the scales being unfairly tipped over.

 

[X Prime]

Do tell me the number of buildings burned down and number of people who are being gone after (judicially or not) as a result of the 1/6 protest and BLM riots respectively. I'll wait for you to justify your comparison with this data.

 

[The Last Stand]

Do tell me the number of buildings burned down and number of people who are being gone after (judicially or not) as a result of the 1/6 protest and BLM riots respectively. I'll wait for you to justify your comparison with this data.

Please search my name on this one thread so you can discover the countless times I've outright pointed out the hypocrisy of using BLM as an excuse to destroy cities.

This is a motte and bailey fallacy to get me to defend months of rioting over some race manipulation bullshit.

 

[X Prime]

You don't know what that term means, because I am not making an obfuscated argument.

The simple reality is that the arm of the state will rapidly crush a milquetoast right-wing uprising of any stripe while leaving one that is center-left like BLM mostly alone, and if you were honest you would simply admit such.

 

[The Last Stand]

The simple reality is that the arm of the state will rapidly crush a milquetoast right-wing uprising of any stripe while leaving one that is center-left like BLM mostly alone, and if you were honest you would simply admit such.

BLM? Center-left? There is nothing center about their ideology.

I've seen arguments that if it was BLM, they would've been shot. Mainly using June as an example. Based on what I've seen prior to that incident, it doesn't take a genius to see why DC would've been fortified.

What I fail to understand is how lax security was during 1/6. You cannot tell me that Trump has no role in inciting such a turnout that day.

 

[JohnDoe]

What I fail to understand is how lax security was during 1/6.

Security has to be lax so that BLM/Antifa/Glowies can burn down what they are told, when they are told to do it by their Deep State masters, like this did to DC in June. Have you not been paying attention?

 

[The Last Stand]

Security has to be lax so that BLM/Antifa/Glowies can burn down what they are told, when they are told to do it by their Deep State masters, like this did to DC in June. Have you not been paying attention?

From what happened in June at DC, that's a blur to me.

So much happening the last few months, it's hard to keep track.

You don't know what that term means, because I am not making an obfuscated argument.

The simple reality is that the arm of the state will rapidly crush a milquetoast right-wing uprising of any stripe while leaving one that is center-left like BLM mostly alone, and if you were honest you would simply admit such.

The state has been battling right wing terrorism for decades, while letting left wing terrorism stay largely uninvestigated. It would be dishonest to not notice the stark disparancy of what gets attention and why.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I wouldn't really know but shouldn't Chauvin's public union be providing his legal defense? Is he still with the union even though the department fired him for following their policies? Make we wonder if he walks away from this without any charges sticking, can he call a Lin Wood type and start lopping heads with civil suits?

Who would represent him? Especially with online mobs ready to attack them the minute the news becomes public .

 

[queue-anon]

No wonder they fucking needed to hire all those cops back.

This is Biden's America. Whatever protests that happen will not have any establishment support. You'll get a crowd in several cities but no where near the numbers.

Then again, if Biden hasn't met with BLM by then, they may just go rouge and stir up trouble.

The coroner thing is complicated. 1st coroner (county) claimed it was a homicide. 2nd (family hired) claimed homicide. Then a 3rd was consulted who said "if Floyd had died at home, it would have been a Fentenal overdose."

So my guess is that the county coroner got pressured into suggesting homicide.

In a town next to mine, an Asian man was having a mental crisis, so his family called the cops. He struggled with them a little bit and was taken to the hospital for an injured elbow. At the hospital, he suffered an embolism and died. The coroner ruled it a homicide despite there being no evidence of head trauma caused by anyone, let alone the cops, and despite his own family saying the cops didn't mistreat him.

At this point, I don't trust coroner reports. If someone dies after encountering the police, no matter the circumstances, they're under enormous political pressure to lie about the cause of death.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Who would represent him? Especially with online mobs ready to attack them the minute the news becomes public .

A billion attorneys would take this case. A lot of people want to be the next Johnny Cochran and Chauvin has more evidence in his favor than OJ did. There's even a shitload of noble, less status oriented lawyers that would take him as a client because they think he has a winnable case. It's probably more accurate that his police union has a small team of lawyers on retainer that specialize in preventing cops from being fired or charged with crimes committed in the line of duty. Same thing with teachers. If the union doesn't have your back when shit hits the fan, their pay pigs lose a faith in where their dues are going.

In terms of the intimidation factor, I hear that old salty criminal defense attorneys don't like to get caught slippin'

 

[X Prime]

BLM? Center-left? There is nothing center about their ideology.

I've seen arguments that if it was BLM, they would've been shot. Mainly using June as an example. Based on what I've seen prior to that incident, it doesn't take a genius to see why DC would've been fortified.

What I fail to understand is how lax security was during 1/6. You cannot tell me that Trump has no role in inciting such a turnout that day.

The leadership of BLM is center-left of the corporatist variety.

The arguments that if it were BLM they'd be shot are laughable. They barely get prosecuted.

That last bit is a non-sequitur and irrelevant.

The state has been battling right wing terrorism for decades, while letting left wing terrorism stay largely uninvestigated. It would be dishonest to not notice the stark disparancy of what gets attention and why.

Then answer why instead of letting it sit there. It can be done in one sentence.

 

[BlueSpark]

In terms of the intimidation factor, I hear that old salty criminal defense attorneys don't like to get caught slippin'
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Those two NIMBYs are ardent Democrat supporters who probably would have supported the mob if it was in any neighborhood that wasn't theirs.

 

[X Prime]

Those two NIMBYs are ardent Democrat supporters who probably would have supported the mob if it was in any neighborhood that wasn't theirs.

This is pretty much exactly correct regarding most of the upper-middle-and-up class.

It's bread, circuses, and NIMBYism all the way down.

 

[Garm]

BLM? Center-left? There is nothing center about their ideology.

I've seen arguments that if it was BLM, they would've been shot. Mainly using June as an example. Based on what I've seen prior to that incident, it doesn't take a genius to see why DC would've been fortified.

What I fail to understand is how lax security was during 1/6. You cannot tell me that Trump has no role in inciting such a turnout that day.

The thing about Washington D.C. is that it has a "No Fly Zone" over it. If a plane goes in it, they will be greeted by F-16's. Also this implies that military brass have decided that destroying a plane and raining hellfire over the population of the U.S. capital.

So those buildings have billions of dollars worth of equipment protecting them and supposedly the will to use that equipment, damn the consequences.

Yet some how, despite the FBI having knowledge of threats of violence, the police were "understaffed" on one of the most contentious days in modern American history. Our entire national security apparatus dragged its feet on the issue of "stopping a terrorist action."

Much like how Portland Police and Seattle Police were told to "Stand Down" I'm getting the feeling what happened at the capital was "allowed" to happen.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Trads v Juggalos when?