Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Mississippi Motorboater said:
I missed this in the monsoon of things going on this week, but a noteworthy legend of Star Wars Multimedia has saddled up and rode off into the sunset, marking the end of an era:
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Randy Stradley, overseer and editor of Dark Horse Comics for 35 years, has announced his retirement on the company blog with a warm farewell. For anyone who isn't aware of his contributions, Stradley both oversaw and wrote numerous comics for Dark Horse--first rising to prominence as the writer for the original Alien Vs. Predator back in 1989, and spawning the crossover franchise that would dominate both brands throughout the 90's. He was instrumental in bringing talent over to the company, and overseeing several major runs during this period.

But most importantly, he was the steward of the Star Wars Comics from 1991 all the way to 2014. Every one of the initial flagship EU comics--from Dark Empire, to Crimson Empire, to the X-Wing comics to Tales of the Jedi--were pushed forward thanks to his contributions, and his insistence on maintaining a level of quality of stories not previously found in the Marvel comics of the 70's and 80's, as well as being one of the outspoken proponents for shared continuity between the comics and novels during the EU's inception. He would go on to supervise countless series into the 2000's, pushing forward PT story arcs and Clone Wars Multimediat tie-ins, many of which would catapult several recognizable SW Comic Talent to stardom. He would make his own personal contributions with series like Empire and Dark Times, and helped push for the future storyline many consider to be the crown jewel of SW comics, Legacy.

Even though I wasn't into the EU growing up, I was very aware of the comics as the kid, seeing the TPB's in stores and fawning over the artwork in compendiums like Star Wars Comics: Panel to Panel. While the novels and the games would fluctuate in quality, I'm certain many of us would agree that the Dark Horse Comics was where the EU maintained an almost consistent level of overall quality. The high standard for art and writing was maintained for years, ending on a profoundly high note with titles such as Darth Maul Son of Dathomir and Legacy II.

Comic books were a pristine cornerstone of the EU thanks in large part to people like Stradley, who helped ensure that the stories within their pages would reach the level of quality in--or even surpass--the films themselves. And even though Star Wars comics have mostly fallen by the wayside under the current Marvel Regime, we have a vast library of fantastic Dark Horse works we can always return to, to remember a better time when, even within the pages of a comic book, the Star Wars Universe was still vast, epic, and worth experiencing.

Bravo, Mr. Stradley. And thank you for all your work.
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I have to agree, that rare is the Star Wars comic I came across from Dark Horse during those years that I've found to have anywhere near the problems with...almost literally anything else Star Wars, TBH.

on that note - I'm currently genuinely interested in an overview of all the comics, with one noticable caveat; I've pretty much covered all of the ones at or before Darth Bane times and after that it seems kinda daunting whether or not I'd be wasting my time with some Marvel-led dreck, or not. so to everyone else reading this thread, would you be willing to offer up some recommendations for anywhere after 1,000 BBY time period, including the ones mentioned in that post? whatever comes to mind just say so, and no need to fight over which is better...I'm p sure anything is at least decently good compared to what's been coming out lately (no High-as-fuck Republic stuff, obviously).
 
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Dark Horse is pretty consistently good with the IP runs they do. Stradley's AVP isn't my favorite comics out of them in terms of quality (if you had to pin me down it'd probably be an oddball one like Alchemy or Angel of Death, maybe Genocide), but he's done pretty well with what he had.

Can't wait for this to be signs of why you pay your fucking writers and try to run a ship.
 
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If it weren't for the events of 2020 giving the Woke Left their Edict of Milan moment and permanently enshrining them as the new wider cultural foundation seemingly indefinitely, I think Disney would've eventually gotten rid of the Woke Left had Trump won or the Floyd riots not happened when they did.

Corona hurt them bad, especially in the first few months of the wider pandemic and with the capeshit bubble primed to burst, I think we're gonna see things change but not for the better. They're going to just quintuple down on woke since they're pretty much too big to fail and own way too much.

If there was a genuine backlash against the Woke Left that was too big for the corporations to destroy, then I could see Disney trying to mend the bridge and it could actually be done fairly easily.

1. Remove all the censorship on Disney+
2. Announce the end of The Simpsons and the MCU
3. De-canonize the Sequel Trilogy
4. Shut down the Marvel comics division and just make money by licensing the IP to independent comic creators for a price.
5. Release the Original Trilogy in its unaltered original form on DVD, Blu-Ray, and as a special package to buy on Disney+ and Hulu.

All of these would earn back the goodwill from their customers and that last one is enough of a holy grail for fans and consoomers alike that it would probably cover a good portion of their previous losses by itself. I'm surprised they didn't do it once they solidified the Fox buyout.

Honestly, this type of shit seems autistic as fuck but it would be like a license to print money for Disney.

I know they didn't do it back in 2012-2013 since Fox partially owns the original unaltered cuts but that's no longer an issue. My guess is that George Lucas has decided to forbid it while he's still alive.
 
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The Last Boyscout said:
I have to agree, that rare is the Star Wars comic I came across from Dark Horse during those years that I've found to have anywhere near the problems with...almost literally anything else Star Wars, TBH.
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The worse I seen of DH comics is the art is inconsistent and at times the artists really don't know sense of scale. Like placing starships next to planets done right no problem. Done wrong and you got a "pot calling kettle black" situation when the canon ships in question are just as or bigger then Spacebattles SDSD Freudian Nightmare.
 
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verissimus said:
Probably Chris Pratt (yes again), Gal Gadot (also again), or Henry Cavil



Not necessarily. There does seem to be an effort on their part to mainly target the big fish especially if they seem vulnerable, isolated, or not Left-wing enough. These people tend not to bother the small fish not unless they openly cozy with the "right" or speak out against the Left/Leftwing talking points which Ms. Carrano was doing.
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I do found this interesting. You know I do remmber there were a couple of times they went after The Rock before he became political and endorsed Biden.
Through knowing these freaks. Their most likely end up going on his twitter account and find the tweets of him and Ben Shapiro talking friendly. "Unless he deleted those tweets). With those tweets their go and say he's a pretender and not a true leftlie.

There are some cases where they gone after smaller actors. But there not as many. The ones that come to my mind are Harlety Sawyer and Isreal Broussard.

But you are right most are the bigger fish.



Also it seems that rumor has it the Obi Wan series may be canned.
 
Adamska said:
Dark Horse is pretty consistently good with the IP runs they do. Stradley's AVP isn't my favorite comics out of them in terms of quality (if you had to pin me down it'd probably be an oddball one like Alchemy or Angel of Death, maybe Genocide), but he's done pretty well with what he had.

Can't wait for this to be signs of why you pay your fucking writers and try to run a ship.
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Dark Horse comics have mostly been good. Even their oddball SW comics like Dark Empire still have a certain charm to them that most modern comics don't have.
 
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The Last Boyscout said:
on that note - I'm currently genuinely interested in an overview of all the comics
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Well, I know that after I'm finished with my coverage of FOTJ and post-Endor finale Crucible, I'll be diving into the Legacy comics and give my fresh, unaltered impressions on that. It will be in the same format as my other coverage, but with more visual aide as I'm now tackling a visual medium and have the new task of adding art to my list of criteria.

So if you haven't read those comics, I'd look out for that coverage when I get around to it, if you want the gist on why it's considered so good.

The Last Boyscout said:
with one noticable caveat; I've pretty much covered all of the ones at or before Darth Bane times and after that it seems kinda daunting whether or not I'd be wasting my time with some Marvel-led dreck, or not. so to everyone else reading this thread, would you be willing to offer up some recommendations for anywhere after 1,000 BBY time period, including the ones mentioned in that post? whatever comes to mind just say so, and no need to fight over which is better...I'm p sure anything is at least decently good compared to what's been coming out lately (no High-as-fuck Republic stuff, obviously).
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While I haven't read every one of the Dark Horse Series, I have done research on them and their varying reception among the EU Readerbase. The short answer? It's all pretty much excellent. It would actually be easier to list the Dark Horse Comics that aren't worth reading, since even when they aren't outright masterpieces, they tend to be enjoyable pulpy romps that are more than suitable for the comic book medium. I don't think you'll find much infighting or autism over "which comic is better", since they're all pretty much accepted as near-universally good. I can, however, can provide a number of recommendations for the era you specified:

Prequel Era: For all things before, during and after the PT Era, is the series simply titled Republic is the one to pick up. This series spanned dozens of authors and artists, and was essentially was the long-running flagship Main Title for Star Wars comics from 1998 to 2006. At 83 issues, it comprises of several notable story arcs crafted to tackle a different set of characters or events every few years, sometimes coinciding with the current Prequel Film released at the time. The storylines featuring Quinlan Vos, A'Sharad Hett, and Ayla Secura are found in this series, as well as nearly every single major comic that comprised the famous Clone Wars Multimedia Project, featuring Genndy favorites like Asajj Ventress and Durge.

Other essential series covering this era are:
-Star Wars: Darth Maul from 2000 (featuring the character doing badass Sith missions, published shortly after TPM)
-The blandly-named Jango Fett and Zam Wessell series respectively, as well as the Jango-centric series Open Seasons
-The Republic series spin-offs like Jedi Council: Acts of War, the blandly-named but enjoyable Star Wars: Jedi, and the final tie-in series focusing on Vader hunting down Jedi, Purge.

Word of warning, if you see comics that tie into the Dave Filoni TCW Series, fucking avoid them, and I say that as someone who doesn't even hate that show: terrible artwork, dreadful plotting, kiddy dialogue...literally the closest thing to IDW-tier products that Dark Horse produced solely out of obligation. The only TCW comic that is any good is Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir, as it rectifies several problems introduced by the Maul Arc of the show.

Pre-OT and OT-Era: As for everything set after that, most of the Pre-OT and OT-Era stuff is dedicated to a 2000's trio of series called Dark Times, Empire, and Rebellion, respectively. These cover the entirety of the Galactic Civil War, and offer a lot of perspective on both sides of the conflict, without always having the story tied to the hip of Han, Luke and Leia like the current Marvel Drek does. For more pulpy variety set in this period, I would recommend:

-Agent of the Empire, a late 2010's spy series from the Imperial perspective
-Star Wars Adventures, an EXTREMELY pulpy 2010's series set between each OT film (one of the arcs is called "Luke Skywalker and the Treasure of the Dragonsnakes", so that should give you an idea of the kind of fun you're in for)
-Darth Vader 2010's series ("Lost Command", "Ghost Prison", "Ninth Assassin"), which are effectively the kind of one-off storylines that Charles Soule does today, except with far less melodrama and more calculating machinations.
-Shadows of the Empire and its sequel, Evolution, which for my money are the best portions of that multimedia project, far better than the game or accompanying novel
-Mara Jade: By the Emperor's Hand, a series by Timothy Zahn himself that explores the character during her assassin days, the fateful day of the Empire's fall in ROTJ, and what she does afterwards. A great lead-in to the Thrawn Trilogy (which itself has a Dark Horse Adaptation).


-New Republic: This is regretfully the portion of timeline that has the least amount of comic coverage, having a surge of titles in the 90's, but quickly dialing down to allow the novels more breathing room. The main titles from this period are:

-Dark Empire I and II = Palpatines's Resurrection storyline, which I recommend reading with the fantastic official audio drama found on YouTube. The final entry, Part III, is a piece of shit with inferior art and a rushed ending, and something I almost recommend skipping.
-Crimson Empire I-III, focusing on a post-Endor factional war between the Imperial Guards, and a real demonstration of the DH writers' creativity
-The X-Wing Series, probably the longest-running comics from this period (outside of Tales of the Jedi) that acts as a prequel storyline to the novels of the same name, and are even penned by series novelist Michael Stackpole. Initial arc is kind of bland, but the rest are great.
-All of the Boba Fett Comics (most of which were published in the 90's, and are too numerous count. Blood Ties is a prominent one, as it resolves a plot revolving around Fett's daughter).

Aside from those major initial arcs, the post-Endor EU is a blank slate as far as comics go, so as far as storylines focusing on the next generation of characters' go, the novel arcs from New Jedi Order onward have that covered exclusively, before the continuity jumps one hundred years to the Legacy comics focusing on Luke's descendent, Cade Skywalker, which effectively close out the Expanded Universe as the final storyline.

Having said that, there's three titles that more or less function as a lead-in material to the New Jedi Order series:

-Union - The comic that details the wedding of Luke Skywalker and Mara Jade, with NJO itself having their marriage tested by wartime trials, as well as Mara's troubled pregnancy
-Chewbacca - A eulogy series published after the character's passing in the climax of the first NJO novel, with a forward by the late Peter Mayhew, glimpses of Chewie's youth, and framed in the present of Han and the others mourning his loss.
-Invasion - The only major series to cover NJO's conflict of the Yuuzhan Vong War, set between the second and third NJO books. Focusing on comic-exclusive characters with cameos by the NJO characters, it was sadly cancelled and ends on a cliffhanger, but still well worth the read.

-Unique Oddities: These series have either a sketchy place in continuity or are outright non-canonical jaunts into creativity, worth reading just for the intriguing ideas or twists on the wider Star Wars lore.

-Vector - the single major crossover event in the comics, with an event that bridges the KOTOR comics, the Dark Times comics, and the Legacy comics.
-Visionaries - A series drawn by various concept artists who worked on the Prequels, including Doug Chiang and Ryan Church. It's a collection of short stories, each in a different visual style...most notably, the short story of Darth Maul and Old Ben throwing down on Tatooine.
-The Dark Horse Star Wars Manga - probably the best adaptation of the original films; largely word-for-word recreation of the OT storyline, but through the art style of Japanese artists. Highly, highly recommended--it will get you nostalgic for SW and 90's anime at the same time.

That's all I've got off the top of my head. I'm sure others can throw in a few obscure recommendations, but those are the ones I consider to be the must-reads if you've sped past the Dawn/Tales/KOTOR era.
 
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Oats12345 said:
So I'm bored today. I decided to watch some of those fandom menace videos and reading the comment sections. I won't lie I'm amused how many people are suckered by random people on YouTube into belive this shit.
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people always believe whatever the fuck they want to on the internet by default, but that goes doubly so for a franchise like Star Wars where the suspension of disbelief has been raped so many times by the canon owners (even before Disney took hold of it) that it's no wonder every part of the current fandom believes whatever they want atm.

in this way Gina Carano is a reviled nazi, confirmed if you listen to the Twitter mobs, the Lucasfilm civil war is raging hard and strong and Kathleen Kennedy will totes get fired aaaaanyday now, if you listen to the Fandom Menace, and Filoni is the second coming of Jesus Christ himself, confirmed according to younger fans that haven't even seen the stuff that came before him, and not just a mediocre (at best) hack fraud that stole most of his ideas from far more talented and capable writers over a period of more than a decade now. heck, the only reason why he was able to get away with it is pretty much because Star Wars fans in general were so starved of actual quality during the course of the 2010s they were willing to drink his mediocre piss and still believe it was alpine-fresh water.
 
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The Valeyard said:
Was there anyone who believed that she would be outside of Fandom Menace cucks?
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But I was told by Midnight Edge and Kamran Pasha that a push was going to happen and KK was going to be gone any day.

That's also way I don't belive Karman when he says people are overhyping the Daily Wire going into entertainment.

I mean dude you belive in shit that Doomcuck whose a Dr. Doom cosplayer says.
 
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The Valeyard said:
Was there anyone who believed that she would be outside of Fandom Menace cucks?
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you do get one every once in awhile in this thread, who holds out a faint hope for it...but as was once wisely mumbled.

I'm just taking Luke's escape from his character assassination as a happy fluke, upon which the timing is right to put a lid on Star Wars for a long while, and just enjoy the laffs by this point.
 
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The Last Boyscout said:
you do get one every once in awhile in this thread, who holds out a faint hope for it...but as was once wisely mumbled.

I'm just taking Luke's escape from his character assassination as a happy fluke, upon which the timing is right to put a lid on Star Wars for a long while, and just enjoy the laffs by this point.
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After seeing a bunch of Fandom Menace videos and comments.

I can say some of their logic on Kathleen Kennedy is insane. I mean i don't like the woman either.
But this is legit a YouTube comment I have seen.

"How has Disney not been responding to KK actively ruling the Mandalorian. This is nuts"

Like way would she tried to destroy a show, that's making her money?
 
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in this way Gina Carano is a reviled nazi, confirmed if you listen to the Twitter mobs, the Lucasfilm civil war is raging hard and strong and Kathleen Kennedy will totes get fired aaaaanyday now, if you listen to the Fandom Menace, and Filoni is the second coming of Jesus Christ himself,
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I think the worst take on the firing of Gina Carano might be from Gary/Nerdrotic. He keep saying that Favreau should have said something, expressed his opinion on social media to defend her. That's fucking retarded. One of the main rules in Hollywood (and in any company tbh) is that you don't shit where you eat. We don't know what is happening at Disney/LF but Favreau is clearly not the enemy here. The guy cares about the brand and what SW is all about. He is responsible for The Mandalorian (yes I get it, it's not Shakespeare), he brought Luke back and he also created Cara Dune for Gina Carano, so it's safe to assume that he got pissed when KK fired her. The difference between Favreau, Gina and Carl Weathers is that Favreau is working for LucasFilm while the 2 actors are just regulars and aren't part of the main cast.
Sorry for bringing up the Gina discussion again.

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and as to how 'obviously' KK is gonna get fired anytime this decade...LOLNO:


Doomcuck strikes out yet again, womp womp woooooomp.
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Exactly, lol. She's here to stay. It's the same situation with Alex Kurtzman at CBS. These two people got there not because of their talent but because they know how Hollywood works. It's disgusting but it's the game.
 
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verissimus said:
Probably Chris Pratt (yes again), Gal Gadot (also again), or Henry Cavil



Not necessarily. There does seem to be an effort on their part to mainly target the big fish especially if they seem vulnerable, isolated, or not Left-wing enough. These people tend not to bother the small fish not unless they openly cozy with the "right" or speak out against the Left/Leftwing talking points which Ms. Carrano was doing.
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Letitia Wright wasn't a 'big fish'.
 
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